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Coren 12-11-2020 02:30 PM

737 new cases and 11 new deaths in the last 24 hours

119 in the Vancouver Coastal Health region,
469 in the Fraser Health region,
8 in the Island Health region,
99 in the Interior Health region,
41 in the Northern Health region
and one new case of a person who resides outside of Canada.

JDMDreams 12-11-2020 03:08 PM

They are saying the interior is pretty fucked cuz it's butt fuck no where with no one and they have pretty much the same numbers as Vancouver coastal health

CivicBlues 12-11-2020 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9010208)
They are saying the interior is pretty fucked cuz it's butt fuck no where with no one and they have pretty much the same numbers as Vancouver coastal health

Not exactly, unless you consider Kelowna butt fuck nowhere.

http://www.bccdc.ca/Health-Info-Site...9_20201205.png

Other areas of the Interior look fine except for Princeton and Kettle Valley. Looks like Kelownavirus is back again.

SkinnyPupp 12-11-2020 03:19 PM


6793026 12-11-2020 03:47 PM

what is "excess" supply. just fluff and marketing post at work.

If gov't is trying to get paid on vaccine and get people to pay for it ... it would be irresponsible. That's my opinion.

Hondaracer 12-11-2020 04:03 PM

Well yea, not to pile on to turd but if people actually had to pay for the vaccine im pretty sure you’d see a double digit drop off in uptake.. that’s also what universal healthcare is for..

The BCCDC numbers were just released they don’t add up at first glance.. here is from Nov 7th:

https://i.imgur.com/gyVA2h6.jpg

And here is the newest set from today, tracking up until dec 5th:

https://i.imgur.com/csN6PH7.jpg

So the 80-89 bracket lost a death, due to it not being from covid I guess?

Edit* never mind I guess it’s from the 7th to the 5th but it doesn’t designate that anywhere..

welfare 12-11-2020 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 9010204)
Oh so when it comes to differing political views you want to "cure" the opposite side, but with an actual disease you're ok with just letting it run it's course? :lol

Yeah Liberalism, what a twisted ideology. Forcing people to confront and seek help for physical and mental ailments.

Much better to just bottle it up and carry on as if nothing's wrong.

It was a joke. Sorry. I thought it was obvious.

RRxtar 12-11-2020 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 9010211)
Not exactly, unless you consider Kelowna butt fuck nowhere.

http://www.bccdc.ca/Health-Info-Site...9_20201205.png

Other areas of the Interior look fine except for Princeton and Kettle Valley. Looks like Kelownavirus is back again.

And yet, 19 people in hospital, 4 in icu. And a grand total of 6 people have died since March.

Fun fact, the total number of covid cases since march in the interior health region is the same as the last 6 days of new cases in Fraser health...

ilovebacon 12-11-2020 04:33 PM

People of my age have the highest case percentage... Here I am avoiding people.

underscore 12-11-2020 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 9010211)
Not exactly, unless you consider Kelowna butt fuck nowhere.

http://www.bccdc.ca/Health-Info-Site...9_20201205.png

Other areas of the Interior look fine except for Princeton and Kettle Valley. Looks like Kelownavirus is back again.

The vast majority of the Interior is nowhere though. Most of it is hours and hours from a major hospital.

RRxtar 12-11-2020 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by underscore (Post 9010229)
The vast majority of the Interior is nowhere though. Most of it is hours and hours from a major hospital.

Hours and hours?

What communities are farther than an hour away from a hospital? And how many of the 800,000 in IH live in those communities?

https://www.interiorhealth.ca/AboutU..._hospitals.pdf

twitchyzero 12-11-2020 06:58 PM

and how many ventilators at each hospital on average?

2?

those NH numbers dont look great

underscore 12-11-2020 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRxtar (Post 9010239)
Hours and hours?

What communities are farther than an hour away from a hospital? And how many of the 800,000 in IH live in those communities?

https://www.interiorhealth.ca/AboutU..._hospitals.pdf

I said major hospital. How many of those health centres and community hospitals have the equipment and staff to handle an outbreak? Granted most people are going to be living fairly close to the Okanagan/Kamloops but there's probably a couple hundred thousand scattered around the rest of the region. If a town like Kaslo had an outbreak they'd be fucked.

RRxtar 12-11-2020 08:36 PM

Kaslo is a 45 minute drive from the Nelson regional hospital.

When exactly are you expecting this huge outbreak? There are 19 people in hospital in ih and that has been steady, actually gone down, during the whole pandemic and daily cases are flattened again.

Jmac 12-11-2020 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9010219)
Well yea, not to pile on to turd but if people actually had to pay for the vaccine im pretty sure you’d see a double digit drop off in uptake.. that’s also what universal healthcare is for..

The BCCDC numbers were just released they don’t add up at first glance.. here is from Nov 7th:

https://i.imgur.com/gyVA2h6.jpg

And here is the newest set from today, tracking up until dec 5th:

https://i.imgur.com/csN6PH7.jpg

So the 80-89 bracket lost a death, due to it not being from covid I guess?

Edit* never mind I guess it’s from the 7th to the 5th but it doesn’t designate that anywhere..

Read it again ... 80-89 bracket gained 107 deaths from 112 to 219, but it dropped by 1% of total deaths (40.1% to 39.2%)

underscore 12-12-2020 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRxtar (Post 9010251)
When exactly are you expecting this huge outbreak? There are 19 people in hospital in ih and that has been steady, actually gone down, during the whole pandemic and daily cases are flattened again.

I'm not a psychic, I'm just saying that should there be a bad outbreak I doubt the little hospitals out there can handle much, and to get from those to larger hospitals in the winter isn't fast. With Christmas and New Years coming up though all it takes is one gathering to fuck up a lot of people.

I could be wrong though, maybe all the little hospitals are well equipped. If you have info of that being the case please share.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRxtar (Post 9010251)
Kaslo is a 45 minute drive from the Nelson regional hospital.

Not that it really matters, but Google says it's an hour, and I doubt you're shaving off 25% of the travel time on that kind of road in Dec. Although if you need to get someone to the hospital it might be a little easier to do than normal.

JDMDreams 12-12-2020 08:58 AM

Lol they even made the colour coding and Surrey coloured as brown

https://globalnews.ca/news/7517364/b...ovid-data/amp/

Jmac 12-12-2020 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9010277)
Lol they even made the colour coding and Surrey coloured as brown

https://globalnews.ca/news/7517364/b...ovid-data/amp/

Surrey is maroon. West Van is brown.

Hondaracer 12-12-2020 03:16 PM

This global article outlining what’s “ok” this Christmas:

https://globalnews.ca/news/7516613/f...-restrictions/

Quote:

Can I as a single parent with a 14-year-old who also visits his dad’s house be OK to have one or two people who I can socialize with besides my son as is permitted for those who live alone?

Yes, those who live alone should absolutely have their one or two-person bubble to help support them during this time. However, remember that each interaction is a chance for the virus to spread. Since you live with your son, consider having only one other person in your
bubble for now.
So it’s ok for a parent with a 14 year old who lives between two homes and goes to school to join another household, but it isn’t ok for two adults who live together to join their parents for Xmas within that bubble?..

This isn’t trying to find a “loop hole” this is just counter to what has been said..

SkinnyPupp 12-12-2020 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9010297)
This global article outlining what’s “ok” this Christmas:

https://globalnews.ca/news/7516613/f...-restrictions/



So it’s ok for a parent with a 14 year old who lives between two homes and goes to school to join another household, but it isn’t ok for two adults who live together to join their parents for Xmas within that bubble?..

This isn’t trying to find a “loop hole” this is just counter to what has been said..

Based on the guidelines posted a page or so back, it seems your scenario would be OK too. You can have a small "personal bubble" outside the household of 2 people. So you, wife, and, say, her parents. But you can't have a second one with your parents.

That's how I understood it at least

320icar 12-12-2020 03:58 PM

The only two people my wife and I have seen in a long time is my mom and dad. Same goes for them reversed. We will be spending xmas morning and evening together with them, my wife and 7 month old. Don’t care whether it’s allowed or not, we are safe as we can be and be damned that My parents can’t see their only grandchild’s first xmas

Hondaracer 12-12-2020 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 9010300)
Based on the guidelines posted a page or so back, it seems your scenario would be OK too. You can have a small "personal bubble" outside the household of 2 people. So you, wife, and, say, her parents. But you can't have a second one with your parents.

That's how I understood it at least

I feel like these guidelines though and the global article are just counter to what Bonnie Henry says in the pressers and then these come out and outline these oddball scenarios which make things seem “ok” and then people just stretch the interpretation to their own scenario. Where as the press conferences seem to infer that it is not acceptable to mix house holds period besides that caregiver grandchild scenario

I dunno...went to my parents today to drop stuff off and was feeling some congestion/sinus pressure which I generally never do so dropped the stuff off at the door and left..we’ll see what happens closer to Christmas I suppose

CRS 12-12-2020 05:27 PM

Another person who can't pay back their ($18,500) CERB despite making less than $5,000 last year.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/princ...back-1.5838395

SkinnyPupp 12-12-2020 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9010304)
I feel like these guidelines though and the global article are just counter to what Bonnie Henry says in the pressers and then these come out and outline these oddball scenarios which make things seem “ok” and then people just stretch the interpretation to their own scenario. Where as the press conferences seem to infer that it is not acceptable to mix house holds period besides that caregiver grandchild scenario

I dunno...went to my parents today to drop stuff off and was feeling some congestion/sinus pressure which I generally never do so dropped the stuff off at the door and left..we’ll see what happens closer to Christmas I suppose

I think they just want people to be responsible, give them some strict guidelines if they don't know how to decide for themselves.

welfare 12-12-2020 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRS (Post 9010313)
Another person who can't pay back their ($18,500) CERB despite making less than $5,000 last year.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/princ...back-1.5838395

I know the article is intending to draw sympathy but it's a little tough to see someone going from $400/month or less to over $3000, as a victim, because they're asked to pay it back.
Nice touch the MP explaining how to cook the books and cheat the system at the end too.


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