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underscore 04-14-2021 09:20 AM

https://i.imgur.com/bUJ7Qft.jpeg

study: https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/10.1148/radiol.2020203557

That made me curious what the standard rate of blood clots is, and I found this: https://www.stoptheclot.org/blood-cl...united-states/

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On Average, 274 People Die Every Day from Blood Clots

- 107 to 130 cases of potentially deadly blood clots occurred each year per 100,000 Caucasian individuals from 1985 through 2002. This translates into about 1 to 3 cases per 1,000 people.
- 250,000 cases of potentially deadly blood clots, such as deep vein thrombosis or DVT, occurred each year between 1966 through 1990.
- 900,000 cases per year are now suggested by recent scientific modeling and public health statistics.
- 100,000 to 300,000 deaths from blood clots occur each year, which is greater than the total number of people who lose their lives each year to AIDS, breast cancer, and motor vehicle crashes combined.
1-3 per 1000 people is 0.1-0.3%. Granted that includes the birth control and the smokers but that just makes the increase in risk of a clot from the vaccine is even more minimal.

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 9023783)
She won't get the AZ or J&J vaccine because of blood clots but has no idea what the percentage is, only that some ppl had blood clots.
She doesn't think covid is that bad and that the news is fear mongering.

I've seen that from a few people who kept spouting how people "shouldn't live in fear" but now they're scared of the vaccine. Who's living in fear now?

EvoFire 04-14-2021 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 9023783)
Just had the stupidest debate about this with a coworker who travelled to SD, posts on IG pictures of her and her running friends hugging and kissing, and loves to post #don'tletcovidstopyou

She won't get the AZ or J&J vaccine because of blood clots but has no idea what the percentage is, only that some ppl had blood clots.
She doesn't think covid is that bad and that the news is fear mongering.
And most importantly, she knows 1 nurse who said their hospital was empty.


I told her, it's not about the virus killing people, its the fact that if more ppl have covid, that increases the number of people who need to go to the hospital and there is a finite number of beds, ventilators, nurses and doctors. I even reminded her all the times where nurses said they were overworked and patients were lining hallways and Timmy's because they were out of rooms.


Are ppl really that dumb?

Yes

The Producer 04-14-2021 11:37 AM

decided a couple of weeks ago that I would only post here w good news.

https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/04...fety-concerns/

Health Canada has deemed the AZ vaccine to once again be safe to use for all adults.

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Health Canada says the risk of getting the blood clot is four in one million.
Those are odds I'm happy to get behind. Hopefully this will further speed up the vaccination plan for BC.

MarkyMark 04-14-2021 11:54 AM

How many people are going to walk out when they find out they're about to get that Astra shot lol, the damage has been done politically no matter what Health Canada says

CivicBlues 04-14-2021 12:24 PM

Give it to the Whistler folks and all the other hot spots. They shouldn't be rewarded for their bad behavior but this should be a fair compromise.

twitchyzero 04-14-2021 12:31 PM

the bad behavior is pretty much everyone from rest of BC and from ON/QC

SumAznGuy 04-14-2021 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 9023809)
the bad behavior is pretty much everyone from rest of BC and from ON/QC

Don't forget Alberta and Saskatchewan

spoon.ek9 04-14-2021 02:30 PM

I can confirm that the covid ward is getting obscene amounts of blood thinners to combat the clots caused by the virus. Subcutaneous injections of Enoxaparin twice a day basically for the duration of their stay in hospital.

GLOW 04-14-2021 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 9023783)
Are ppl really that dumb?

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...00/866/174/ad6

whitev70r 04-14-2021 04:54 PM

Dayammm ... 1168 new cases today.

Obsideon 04-14-2021 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 9023771)
I am currently getting over covid. It was not pleasant and kicked my ass worse than anything I've experienced since childhood. Eventually I had chills, massive body and head aches, and temps over 38. I have a lingering cough, tiredness, and just got over a stuffed/runny nose. It has been over 2 weeks since quarantine began, which I had to do with my 6yr old son who also had it. Thankfully, despite his many serious health issues at an early age, he had very mild symptoms which ended within a matter of days. I am pretty active, healthy, with no underlying health issues.

If you think I was flouting the restrictions and recommendations, you are wrong. I followed them to the letter from day one. After my son's mother wrongly attempted to keep me from having access to my son as the pandemic began, I decided to not do anything to risk that access in any way. My friends kept inviting me over and I was so paranoid that a noise violation would have the cops handing out tickets, so I said no. I rarely go out in public and wear a mask when I do, wash my hands, etc. Before getting covid, I hadn't seen my friends in several months, I hadn't seen my parents since last August. My dad has battled stage 4 cancer and while he has done well, his time on this earth is limited, according to statistics on the survival rate. I want to see him more than anything. He and my mom just got their vaccines today (Moderna). Still have to wait for the 2nd dose, my and my son's own doses x2, and who knows what else before we are allowed to see each other again.

PS: I did ask Frazer Health which strain my son had, and all they could say was that it wasn't a variant, thankfully. It seems that kind of information is not easily given and I had to press to get even that. I do have to commend them on being readily available at all times, as I never had to wait when calling them.

Hoping for a speedy recovery! If you don't mind me asking, just curious would you have the slightest clue where you might have contracted the virus given you have been pretty safe?
Personally I've also known some really safe people catching it. One of these cases was a girl that is pretty much a stay at home mom. She ended up catching it from her basement tenant, they talked briefly by the front door when the tenant gave her a slice of a birthday cake.

Obsideon 04-14-2021 06:19 PM

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Restaurant industry groups that met with provincial health officer Dr. Bonnie Henry on Tuesday tell CTV News they expect current bans on indoor dining will extended into May.
I guess I'll just go by this when it comes to ordering food, supplies and staff scheduling. Leave it to Bonnie to again announce new or extended restrictions with less than 24 hour notice cuz of course restaurants can just flip a switch and change everything at the drop of a dime. :rukidding:

hud 91gt 04-14-2021 08:02 PM

It was also announced by Bonnie, 3 cases in a workplace and its shutdown. Literature reads a single case! Seems to be a few large minute changes going on.

StylinRed 04-14-2021 09:43 PM

I know of a major workplace with a whole crew that's covid positive (5+ ppl) there workstation was sanitized but no shutdown... Hmm and this happened this past week

iwantaskyline 04-14-2021 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Obsideon (Post 9023838)
Hoping for a speedy recovery! If you don't mind me asking, just curious would you have the slightest clue where you might have contracted the virus given you have been pretty safe?
Personally I've also known some really safe people catching it. One of these cases was a girl that is pretty much a stay at home mom. She ended up catching it from her basement tenant, they talked briefly by the front door when the tenant gave her a slice of a birthday cake.

masks on?

whitev70r 04-15-2021 07:43 AM

Hearing anecdotal stories that families who have been ultra cautious, WFH, masks, no hanging out with people outside, etc. have caught it ... this variant seems to be transmittable by airborne. Another story of someone who caught it living on main floor from a tenant living downstairs who was positive. Damn ... if that's the case, what about the possibility of living in a high rise condo!

Hondaracer 04-15-2021 07:59 AM

Sounds like being cautious don’t work!

Heard of TWO different 20+ person hot pot parties last weekend, don’t worry though, most of the attendees already had covid :whistle:

pastarocket 04-15-2021 08:49 AM

A colleague told me that Dr. Bonnie is holding a news conference today at 10am.

-not the usual 3pm-ish news conference. The Covid update gets moved up much earlier for today.

Hmmmm. :suspicious:

CivicBlues 04-15-2021 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by pastarocket (Post 9023895)
A colleague told me that Dr. Bonnie is holding a news conference today at 10am.

-not the usual 3pm-ish news conference. The Covid update gets moved up much earlier for today.

Hmmmm. :suspicious:

A simple google search would tell you that it's at 2pm which will include a modelling presentation (why it's set an hour early)

JDMDreams 04-15-2021 09:34 AM

So why aren't they announcing a shut down, apparently medical experts from both SFU and UBC says by may our hospitals will run out of capacity if the rates continues at our current trends. Which I see no reason for the trend to go down, even if they continue to vaccinate as it takes 2 weeks for the vaccine to take effect assuming it is 100% effective which it is not.

Traum 04-15-2021 09:46 AM

I am reasonably sure that there have already been cases in Hong Kong where transmissions occurred in high rises where the same unit on different floors were affected. The suspected medium of transmission there were the waste water pipes. FailFish

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9023883)
Hearing anecdotal stories that families who have been ultra cautious, WFH, masks, no hanging out with people outside, etc. have caught it ... this variant seems to be transmittable by airborne. Another story of someone who caught it living on main floor from a tenant living downstairs who was positive. Damn ... if that's the case, what about the possibility of living in a high rise condo!


CivicBlues 04-15-2021 09:48 AM

IIRC those wastewater pipes were constructed in a substandard way, resulting in transmission across different units. Gross.

Close your toilet lids before you flush, people.

Hondaracer 04-15-2021 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9023899)
So why aren't they announcing a shut down, apparently medical experts from both SFU and UBC says by may our hospitals will run out of capacity if the rates continues at our current trends. Which I see no reason for the trend to go down, even if they continue to vaccinate as it takes 2 weeks for the vaccine to take effect assuming it is 100% effective which it is not.

Restaurants are closed though, so we should be in the clear?

whitev70r 04-15-2021 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 9023900)
I am reasonably sure that there have already been cases in Hong Kong where transmissions occurred in high rises where the same unit on different floors were affected. The suspected medium of transmission there were the waste water pipes. FailFish

^ OK, that I'm not understanding. That is disgusting actually. How does waste water pipe kick up aerosol particles ... and if that is an issue, you mean people be breathing in people's pee and poo vapours ... even before cases of Covid transmission were known ?? I hope Canadian construction has higher standards and codes.

JDMDreams 04-15-2021 09:52 AM

^^ not restaurants in Surrey, and Surrey weddings


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