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CivicBlues 02-04-2022 07:46 AM

Poilievre has such a punchable face. His way of speaking also reeks of debate captain/aspiring career politician from his teenage years. He seems like he was the kind of kid that would tell the teacher that she forgot to give the class homework today.

Yeah Downtown has gotten worse but it's not nearly as bad as the "oh it's total anarchy now! There's shit and needles everywhere!" pearl-clutching crowd. I find these type of statements are usually followed by "I never go downtown anymore I hear it's So DaNgErOuS!!"

The whole world has gone down the right wing rabbit shit hole. From Turkey to the Philippines to the US, it's all reactionary to the inequities of society. The left says it has answers. The right says it has answers. Unfortunately, many people from the generations (boomer, Gen-x) who vote lean to the right and we end up with reactionary right-wing governments and their fuck-you-I-got-mine culture seeping through society. Canada is an outlier probably because our right wing is so fractured, giving the Liberals an easy win every time. However, I fail to see how our lowly PM is somehow responsible for any of these global trends.

68style 02-04-2022 08:57 AM

Canada and, by extension, Canadians individually are still riding a wave of importance from being an actual factor in turning the tide of WWII for the Allied Forces........... barring that, it's foolish to think our country has enough population or economic power to bring about any change in the world. Saying that any PM of a country as ineffectual as ours in international matters could have brought about or even contributed much to a mass world cultural shift seems laughable to me.

California alone has more of an effect on the U.S. economy and politics than, say, the entirety of Canada ever could. We're like the smallest of potatoes here. The "nice" country.

westopher 02-04-2022 09:32 AM

Whether it’s a politician, a group of people you don’t like or whatever, it’s easier to just blame who you don’t like and when you find an echo chamber it reassures you the path of least resistance is the “correct” one.

Hondaracer 02-04-2022 09:37 AM

If there was a conservative govt. in place for this current political climate I can pretty much guarantee you guys would not be throwing up your arms like this saying “ehh it’s a global issue what can you do?” Lol

westopher 02-04-2022 09:41 AM

Would you think we were wrong?

68style 02-04-2022 09:42 AM

??? Do you have to be politically affiliated to see what's happening in the world? I feel neither liberal nor conservative as far as Canadian politics go, but I can sit here and say what's been described is accurate to what I see.

Hondaracer 02-04-2022 10:00 AM

I think people are far more willing to give Trudeaus liberals a pass albeit wrought with scandal throughout their entire tenure because this feeling that these values align more closely with their own as opposed to EVIL NAZI CONSERVATIVES!!

I don’t think even the most hardened liberal supporter can’t say that JT’s politics don’t drive division in this country. And that’s on top of the global “right” movement which frankly I think only effects the fringes of Canadian society.

El Bastardo 02-04-2022 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 9053239)
She's in Nanaimo and talks about petty theft being insanely high, like people just walk out of stores shoplifting and nobody does anything about except occasionally other shoppers. Also tent cities, places people can't even really enjoy anymore, homeless problem, needles, stuff like that


Its creeping around the island. Even sleepy-ass Parksville that people only remember once a year because of the sandcastle contests is seeing a jump in what you're describing.

I guess when you go for so long with only the occasional petty theft making the weekly newspaper and suddenly the big city problems have "come home" it gets scary really quick.

white rocket 02-04-2022 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9053242)
7 years ago was it normal to spend 8 hours a day on your phone browsing facebook to join groups of like minded individuals about things you hate? No. We were just posting funny youtube videos in the "fucked up shit what makes you laugh" thread and builds for our cars. IG was for pics of our dogs, cars and some shit ass breakfast you ate instead of a 5 page slide about why you are being silenced by the mainstream media for being white, or how you're the victim of a hate crime because someone cut you off on your morning commute.
Theres division because no one shuts the fuck up about anything, without ever being asked for it. I'm always down for a conversation about stuff, on here or in person, because we are all here asking for it. That's why we are in here. But no one on my IG needs to hear my opinions on politics or convoys all day every fucking day, and I don't want to hear theirs either. I'm there for dog pics.
Thats why everyones pissed off. Its rammed down their throats all day about how they are a sheep or a nazi, and everyones doubling down as a defence. We are all guilty of it. The only answer is a flip phone.

If you take politics out of the conversation and focus on the individual, this is pretty much the post of the fucking century. Completely accurate in every way. As humans, we want to attach ourselves to something with meaning, feel like we are supporting our peers, etc; but with all the misguided information out there, the low level of quality and how out of context most of it is, the sheer mass quantity of it, and how it's in everyone's face constantly; it's no wonder anyone remotely left or right of center is going to join some movement that entails a "fuck ya, let's do this"-type vibe. And now most don't even know what they are fighting for anymore. Trying to keep a level lucid head throughout all of this without offending anyone is a feat in and of itself. So yea, its dogs, cars, action sports and funny shit only on the IG. Lol!!

Manic! 02-04-2022 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by El Bastardo (Post 9053308)
Its creeping around the island. Even sleepy-ass Parksville that people only remember once a year because of the sandcastle contests is seeing a jump in what you're describing.

I guess when you go for so long with only the occasional petty theft making the weekly newspaper and suddenly the big city problems have "come home" it gets scary really quick.


Theft is a big problem in Nanaimo. If it's not bolted down good luck. We have low barrier housing in the North end. In the daytime you will see upwards of 10 to 12 shopping carts all in a row in front of the building. At night they are gone. The people living in the building use them to haul stuff they are stealing. You can see them at night hauling stuff in carts.

inv4zn 02-04-2022 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9053231)
Can we not play this game of “if this party wasn’t the one in power it would have happened anyways” enough of the hypotheticals.

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9053299)
If there was a conservative govt. in place for this current political climate I can pretty much guarantee you guys would not be throwing up your arms like this saying “ehh it’s a global issue what can you do?” Lol

I mean, come on dude. Not even a page.

Great68 02-04-2022 11:29 AM

Oh god. The last time I drove through front street in Nanamio I felt like I was in a zombie apocalypse. I literally had to drive around them pushing their carts in the middle of the road.

JDMDreams 02-04-2022 11:49 AM

It's been like 3 4 years since I've driven to Nanaimo it seemed very chill last time I was there and I didn't really notice any home less people. Port alberni on the other hand looks like a horror movie set.

I was just at Victoria few months back and it seems fine too. Much better than our dt/ Hastings Street. :pokerface:

Seattle dt is pretty bad too. As they aren't just in one area unlike us.

68style 02-04-2022 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9053305)
I think people are far more willing to give Trudeaus liberals a pass albeit wrought with scandal throughout their entire tenure because this feeling that these values align more closely with their own as opposed to EVIL NAZI CONSERVATIVES!!

…. The only people I ever hear using the nazi euphemism are conservatives man.

Are you honestly upset that Trudeau doesn’t do anything egregious enough that people don’t get more upset at him?

I mean, yes, regardless of what might be happening in a dark room somewhere, I honestly do prefer that my PM has a press conference to denounce racism (for example) rather than telling extremist groups to go home and that he loves them. Mildly less upsetting.

Hondaracer 02-04-2022 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by inv4zn (Post 9053317)
I mean, come on dude. Not even a page.

:alone:

68style 02-04-2022 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9053273)

I actually agree with most of what he says, but he loses the plot with all the hyperbole…. You’re only ALIVE because of these truckers… fuck you buddy 15% of them aren’t vaccinated? So I’d have 8.5 packages of chicken on the shelf instead of 10?

Totally discredits the entirety of what he’s trying to say, which is very reasonable otherwise.

Manic! 02-04-2022 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9053324)
I actually agree with most of what he says, but he loses the plot with all the hyperbole…. You’re only ALIVE because of these truckers… fuck you buddy 15% of them aren’t vaccinated? So I’d have 8.5 packages of chicken on the shelf instead of 10?

Totally discredits the entirety of what he’s trying to say, which is very reasonable otherwise.

Also how much chicken comes from the US? Truckers can travel across Canada without being vaxxed. This is not a trucker protest this is a we don't like Trudeau protest.




And how did this get into downtown Ottawa?

https://i.ibb.co/gWLyFgJ/sherp.gif

68style 02-04-2022 01:01 PM

The chicken part was rhetorical but yes, agreed, it’s a Trudeau protest not a freedom one.

Hondaracer 02-04-2022 01:41 PM

Protest rolling into Toronto right now and more protests across Canada this week including Vancouver and Victoria, all the whole provinces start announcing lifting restrictions completely, and even Bonnie seemed to back track on her June 30th outlook

https://i.imgur.com/JLDQQoC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3e0usHy.png

Bloomberg article:

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Covid Rebellion Brews in Canada, Sending Warning Across Globe
https://apple.news/A5ild3Y85RJCD1pMObD2Phg

While I’m not gonna be joining and convoys, as in that article said, 54% of Canadians polled think it’s time to end the BS. I definitely echo the sentiment that enough is enough.

We’re going on 683 days of restrictions for those counting

Manic! 02-04-2022 01:53 PM

Counter protests also happening across Canada on the 5th. But they are smaller because most people have a life.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Vict...4768213029682/

Tapioca 02-04-2022 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9053331)

We’re going on 683 days of restrictions for those counting

You know, if you want to go jump on a plane and travel, what's stopping you?

What can you not do today that you did in January 2020 besides going into a business without wearing a mask?

Hondaracer 02-04-2022 03:20 PM

I’m killing my battery flashing that vac pass bro

68style 02-04-2022 03:39 PM

^ You should tattoo it on your forearm... problem solved

Great68 02-04-2022 03:54 PM

I wouldn't complain if we ended the passports and masks tomorrow.

CivicBlues 02-04-2022 03:59 PM

Rebooked my May 2020 trip to May 2022. First international trip in almost 2.5 years. Feds just need to nix the return PCR test and then I'll be golden. Keep the vaxx mandate though, I don't want to be flying with no crazies.


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