dont think it's the 86 as it has a completely different hood
more likely the GR hot hatch with a boxer powertrain

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod...1616694355.jpg

The trunk on the Camaro is a joke as well.

Great thing about the Mustang is that it doesn't require a behaviour change - drives and functions like a normal car with usable rear seats (on Convertible) and a fairly big trunk.

I don't fit in the back of the Mustang, if we are going around the block to McD sure, but any farther I'm driving myself.

Haha, I don't fit in the back of the Mustang coupe either. Drop top back seats works for people up to 5'10 with the roof up in my exp.

Here's the GR86

https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/s...und%7C1000:625

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...r-86-us-specs/

I like it, but I don't like how in 2013 you could get one for 28k out the door, and now they're already touching 40.

The FRS had a Canadian MSRP of $25990 in 2013. Adjusted for inflation, that is roughly $29.7k in today's money. FWIW, the current MY2021 86 starts with an MSRP of $30150.

So C&D expects the GR86 to start at USD $31k, and as translated today, that works out to ~Cdn $37.3k. But there is no telling of how close the Canadian MSRP is gonna be in relation to the US MSRP.

With a noticeably bigger and more powerful engine than before, what starting price would you say is reasonable? IMO, it is unrealistic to expect anything less than $34k+, if not something in the +/- $35k range.

Rear spoiler looks really weird at various angles:

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod...1622508612.jpg

If it's $37.3k that's a 26% jump in price, which seems like quite a lot. Especially when the original pitch was that it's a small, light, cheap toy that drove the cost of the 370Z down to try to stay competitive.

Running the numbers backwards, I don't think the original would've sold as well in 2013 for $32,700.

100%. Remember it also came out as a SCION, the brand aimed at younger folks without a lot of cash.

Wow, they really took a risky, edgy car and made it pretty boring.

it’s not a numbers car but still slower than a miata :pokerface:

I think the price is fair given all the supply chain problems that will surely persist for another year..there’s also no shortage of 1st gen for like 95% the fun and performance for a fraction of the cost and based on the same platform/bones

OMG, HKS! Brings back good ricer day memories! :drool

Edit: That would be a total VI magnet though. Would never fly in Vancouver. :suspicious:

Jason's video is quite good too

I love their cold opens. The best on Youtube.

I mean, can you find anything else you'd buy in 2013 that hasn't gone up by that amount?

Could've bought a peachy 964 C2 for that and change in 2013.

... 5x that now :QQ:

https://www.autotrader.ca/newsfeatur...22-subaru-brz/

Canadian pricing announced

Base 6MT: $29,495

BRZ 6AT w/EyeSight: $31,895

BRZ Sport-tech 6MT: $32,495

BRZ Sport-tech 6AT w/EyeSight: $34,895

(*Pricing does not include the non-negotiable $1,650 destination fee)

Sport Tech in WRB sounds about nice right now :notbad:

yesss when manufacturers punish automatic sports car buyers

the 6at miata is slower, more expensive, loses lsd/bracing/sport suspension compared to 6mt

but the gearbox will never blow up LUL

Wow I was expecting the manual to top out at $35k, but those prices seem reasonable given the list of improvements.

GUH. Someone give me some money

according to the numbers Traum came up with, that effectively makes it cheaper (just) than the 1st gen at launch. That's pretty sweet given how everything else has shot up in cost the last few years.

Yes please!! Really diggin the new gen and power bump. It challenges my low-key obsession with the ND2.