Sucks that there's no Eyesight for M/T. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's adaptive cruise control right? Golf R has it for manual, but granted 20K more.

It's that but a bit more than that. Essentially driving nanny devices. I have the Toyota version of it on my car and I just turn that shit off.

https://www.subaru.com/engineering/eyesight.html

I am honestly surprised by the just announced Canadian MSRP. It is literally a solid $4 - $5k cheaper than I was expecting.

Good job, Subie~! Nicely done!

How much is it?

https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...882452051.html

That's pretty damn good.

Base 6mt sounds decent considering people want like 15k for a used brz now

Maybe it is just me -- but nothing from the Sport tech trim level appeals to me at all.

Curb weight is 2815lbs


The E36 M3 is 3200lbs, with just 240hp. Guess I won't be messing with FRZ86s anymore

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How does this compare to the upcoming 2022 Toyota GT86 Gazoo Racing version?

I do like how that package allows some of the tech stuff to be optional though. For those of us that don't want any of it, we get to save $3k compared to what we'd have to pay if they had made those all standard features.

THe pricing is VERY aggressive on this car.

In late 1999, I paid $23,850 + freight and taxes for a 2000 Toyota Celica GT... 140hp 1ZZ 5psd manual w/AC... no sunroof.... AND... I think the spoiler was an option? Yes I think it was about $500.00

According to the inflation calculator, $23,850 in 1999 money is $35,000 in 2021 money... so it's a whopping $5,000+ cheaper than the base Celica was 20 years ago AND you're getting a car with nearly 100 more hp and a slew more tech in it + it's rear wheel drive.

I'm impressed.

^^ :badpokerface: unless they decide to do some Gtr Corvette thing where it starts low but those cars don't exist and dealers charge over msrp:okay:

I was expecting the Canadian MSRP to be higher. With 228 HP for under $30k, this is a real winner. I hope they sell a lot more than the old one.

Pricing for the BRZ is similar to when the first gen first came out, pleasantly surprised it's this competitive

Is anyone actually thinking of getting one? :suspicious:

^I think most members here are waiting for the 16-20 yr N drivers to buy @ msrp.. and get them for 8k-10k off msrp when they reach the magic 100kkm odo...

But tbh, due to the inflated used car market these days, buying new might actually be a better idea

I would never recommend anyone to buy a first model year car, but if everyone behave like that, nobody will ever buy any cars LOL~

I think that's exactly it. I'm of the same camp of thought to not buy first model year (FMY) but given how things are going for the used car market, it's a bit of the wild wild west and nothing of tremendous value.

I mean, if we look at 1st generation FR-S/BRZ, they still command a bit of a premium given their age, physical state, and mileage. I'd still like a fun, reliable RWD car in manual, but I'm not sure I want to spend that money towards a 1st gen.

So back to my question - Who here is going to buy this? :troll:

No one, you think we're poor or something? Shit a frs, We're at least looking at the Supra:troll::troll::troll::fuckthatshit:

Bcrdukes just like to buy the last year of a model before it gets replaced with a vastly superior one :troll:

Final year, such face lift, much rare, so fully loaded.:troll::troll::troll: most valuable on resale

Hakone edition bruh

Yeah I got totally fucked on this one by Toyota. FML. :facepalm:

This part is no troll. Got hella screwed when I got my Corolla im and then subsequently Toyota releases the cooler Corolla hatchback. :fuuuuu:

You bought a final year iM and then a final year GT86? Damn you dun goofed.

He didn’t buy a GT86 hahaha but yes to the iM