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If you can just propel the puck across the line and that doesn’t count as control, every skill player is going to do that entering the zone in full flight “just in case” from now on
It's exactly the same thing.. Hopefully they explained it as well as they did this time. If we see it again, we shouldn't be mad.. Possession and control are irrelevant, it's all about touching the puck
I believe Malkin did the same thing aswell, and surprise surprise it was against the Canucks so when i saw the goal, im not surprised it was a good goal.
Edit: OK I'm done being mad now. If puck possession doesn't matter and only touching the puck matters, then those are the rules. Good to learn something new
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp
It's exactly the same thing.. Hopefully they explained it as well as they did this time. If we see it again, we shouldn't be mad.. Possession and control are irrelevant, it's all about touching the puck
The possession should 100% be relevant, but so should the puck's location.
Logically, the idea is that the puck carrier shouldn't be able to put himself offside if he's the first man in. Like in a hypothetical, he's skating into the zone and does a spinorama right at the line, both skates in before the puck, while in full control of the puck, that would/should be onside.
But if it involves another teammate being in the zone, both skates in, before the puck crosses the line, that should be offside.
I don't have the actual rules in front of me, but that's how I always understood it.
The whole logic of it being propelled into the zone, but not necessarily have possession, then being touched by the player before it "counts" is dumb and leaves way too much room for discretion.
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I think their argument is Makar didn’t have control of the puck? At the NHL level? Yeah right! Maybe if that was me skating across the blue line…
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On the radio today they were actually saying teams got tape of these types of offside calls and were actually practicing not touching the puck upon reentering the zone
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Lol I understand the "pass to yourself" argument for touch-up but that definitely looks like control to me. How often are players actually touching the puck when they're stick handling? like 10% of the time? Seems like selective enforcement of offside rules to me.
Tampa Bay rusty? Haven't watched the game .. but pleasantly surprised. NY steals 1st game.
From the parts I was able to watch, Tampa did seem a bit out of sync. It's not like they weren't generating some grade A chances. Their timing just seemed a bit off for whatever reason (injuries, rust, etc). I fully expect to see a better game 2 from them. Vassy will definitely want to redeem himself after allowing a very uncharacteristic 6 goals.
The "Igor's better" chants could come back to haunt Rangers fans later on
Vassy's stats look awful from that game, but watching the entire game he was absolutely under siege and all the goals scored were from the highest danger positions... cross-zone one-timers... I mean the Zibenijad PP goal was like his 3rd clear cut 96mph bomb in a row.
The only one he maybe should have had was Chytil's long wrister but it was a perfect shot and you could tell he was screened until last minute.
Tampa will adjust I think, get back to blocking and boxing everyone out.