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Old 06-06-2022, 09:53 PM   #3876
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ya'll talk about Mike Smith

but everyone ignores the fact that a large chunk of salary was wasted on Duncan Keith.

I watched the entire series, i don't think Kieth was dressed? or was just completely invisible lol
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Mike smith did what he could. His team just sucks. Oilers had every chance to beat a backup goalie but they got blank in game 2.
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Mike smith did what he could. His team just sucks. Oilers had every chance to beat a backup goalie but they got blank in game 2.
Yeah but they scored 5, 6, and 2 in the other games

Series should be 2-2 at least, with competent goaltending
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Mike Smith seems like he never takes accountability for his own play and mistakes. The way he acts is like its always someone elses fault. Hate goalies like that.
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^ Luongo used to do that, such a piss off
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I don't know if he's blaming his teammates or anything like that, more that he wears his heart on his sleeve...
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Maybe he can a little bit but he doesn't feel confident enough to speak to the media in English? I forgot which player it was but it was like that for them... hell, I don't even remember if it was an NHL player
Podkolzin had an interpreter during interviews when he first came here. His English had improved since and can talk to the media now by himself
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I don't know if he's blaming his teammates or anything like that, more that he wears his heart on his sleeve...
I think both, but OP did say "quick to blame someone else" so I think he didn't necessarily mean teammates... it's bad body language when after goals you act exasperated or throw your arms up or make a huge scene to the ref... sometimes he does the arms out "WTF BRO" thing to his dmen etc. When he broke his stick, he just launches it at the bench like "BRING ME A NEW STICK NOW"... not good haha

It's just like bro... grab your water bottle, spray your face down, go for a little skate and come back to your crease.

Everyone has known even since he was young that Smith is easy to get rattled... poke him, nudge him, stay in his space too long... he lets everyone get into his head and always has.
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ya'll talk about Mike Smith

but everyone ignores the fact that a large chunk of salary was wasted on Duncan Keith.

I watched the entire series, i don't think Kieth was dressed? or was just completely invisible lol
Keith was on the ice for the series losing OT goal. He's literally the reason Lehkonen was completely open after the face off

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I think both, but OP did say "quick to blame someone else" so I think he didn't necessarily mean teammates... it's bad body language when after goals you act exasperated or throw your arms up or make a huge scene to the ref... sometimes he does the arms out "WTF BRO" thing to his dmen etc. When he broke his stick, he just launches it at the bench like "BRING ME A NEW STICK NOW"... not good haha

It's just like bro... grab your water bottle, spray your face down, go for a little skate and come back to your crease.

Everyone has known even since he was young that Smith is easy to get rattled... poke him, nudge him, stay in his space too long... he lets everyone get into his head and always has.
That's exactly what he did when he let in that game tying goal from the Flame's own end. Like, who the fuck else is there to blame for that goal Mike?
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The nauseating thing, if you're McDavid, is that Smith is on contract for one more year at $2.5M ... don't know if you can trade his old ass. Can't just run this back another year.

C'mon Holland, do what everyone else knows you gotta do ... find yourself a steady/reliable goalie.
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They are fucked.

$55M allocated for 2023+ with only NINE players signed.

So they got what… 27.5M with which to sign 14 other players?

They’re still carrying a $2M cap hit through 2024 for James Neal hahaha

$42M alone is wrapped up in just Nurse, McDavid, Draisaitl, Hyman and Nuge

Barrie and Ceci make another $7M… Kassian is $3M….

I still can't get over the fact Nurse makes more than Draisaitl and almost as much as McDavid... just boggles my mind.
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They are fucked.

$55M allocated for 2023+ with only NINE players signed.

So they got what… 27.5M with which to sign 14 other players?

They’re still carrying a $2M cap hit through 2024 for James Neal hahaha

$42M alone is wrapped up in just Nurse, McDavid, Draisaitl, Hyman and Nuge

Barrie and Ceci make another $7M… Kassian is $3M….

I still can't get over the fact Nurse makes more than Draisaitl and almost as much as McDavid... just boggles my mind.
Nurse had 100% of the power in that negotiation and the Oilers had no choice but to give him anything he wanted and as he's now the 4th highest paid Dman in the league.

I was thinking about Edmonton the last couple days looking at their roster and cap and feel the same way that they're basically screwed. I almost feel bad in a way it's like damn you have the #1 player in the league and then arguably top 3 in Drai and to know it'll take one hell of a miracle to build a cap compliant team to actually have a legit chance while in their prime? Good luck.

Which really got me thinking a lot about our team. We all know we gotta deal with the sign or let go of Boes, sign or trade Miller etc But the way I see it is fuck we were already capped out not a playoff team, faaaar from a contender and somehow we're going to try and find more money to make no additions to the team. Let's not forget Bo is due soon too. Another cluster fuck and I'd love to see how the new bosses get us out of this jam.
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I was thinking it was coming from the avs locker room
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Which really got me thinking a lot about our team. We all know we gotta deal with the sign or let go of Boes, sign or trade Miller etc But the way I see it is fuck we were already capped out not a playoff team, faaaar from a contender and somehow we're going to try and find more money to make no additions to the team. Let's not forget Bo is due soon too. Another cluster fuck and I'd love to see how the new bosses get us out of this jam.
Yah we're an even bigger mess than Edmonton, as you mentioned at least they have 2/3 of the top players in the league. Our best player is like 20th-ish?

We got the goaltender they need though haha...

I saw some people discussing this on an Athletic article the other day... basically saying to take the team down to the wood with Petey, Hughes and Demko... 1 of Horvat/Miller/Boeser kind of start over.

I personally think there's a significant reason Petey only signed an extension with us, he'd be a tough sell on a rebuild I think he'd leave. We're really fucked... need to hit that window when your superstars are still affordable and right when we have a surrounding cast coming up to compliment them, our best players will have become unaffordable... timing is all wrong unfortunately.
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Miller is the only one I'd overpay to keep but at almost 30 he's gonna be trending down soon so the window is tight
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Yah we're an even bigger mess than Edmonton, as you mentioned at least they have 2/3 of the top players in the league. Our best player is like 20th-ish?

We got the goaltender they need though haha...

I saw some people discussing this on an Athletic article the other day... basically saying to take the team down to the wood with Petey, Hughes and Demko... 1 of Horvat/Miller/Boeser kind of start over.

I personally think there's a significant reason Petey only signed an extension with us, he'd be a tough sell on a rebuild I think he'd leave. We're really fucked... need to hit that window when your superstars are still affordable and right when we have a surrounding cast coming up to compliment them, our best players will have become unaffordable... timing is all wrong unfortunately.
Yeah we can't strip the team down to Petey/Hughes/Demko.
Petey only signed a 3-year contract so he's gone if we do a full rebuild.
Demko is already 26+. Draft 18-year-olds and they'll be ready in 4+ years, at which point Petey is gone and Demko is 30+.
Then we have the ages of Horvat/Miller/Boeser's age.

We have our core for the foreseeable future and we just have to run with it and hope for the best.
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Tampon Bay are rolling man.. Going to be tough to not go back to NY with the series tied
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I think both, but OP did say "quick to blame someone else" so I think he didn't necessarily mean teammates... it's bad body language when after goals you act exasperated or throw your arms up or make a huge scene to the ref... sometimes he does the arms out "WTF BRO" thing to his dmen etc. When he broke his stick, he just launches it at the bench like "BRING ME A NEW STICK NOW"... not good haha

It's just like bro... grab your water bottle, spray your face down, go for a little skate and come back to your crease.

Everyone has known even since he was young that Smith is easy to get rattled... poke him, nudge him, stay in his space too long... he lets everyone get into his head and always has.
All good points. I guess that's part of what makes him so unique and entertaining compared to the bots who are just really solid in net and unshakeable. Of course if it's your goalie, you want him to be remembered for being good and that's all... He reminds me of Hasek in some ways
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That's exactly what he did when he let in that game tying goal from the Flame's own end. Like, who the fuck else is there to blame for that goal Mike?
haha, so cringe. Probably blaming the lights in the arena or something.



As someone that plays in net, I hate goalies that act like this.
Have the elite mentality and thrive on making saves you're NOT supposed to save. Don't bitch and whine every time a shot was too difficult to handle because of this or that circumstance. No one would need a goalie that can make the easy saves a shooting tutor would.
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Play musical coach and team:

Teams:
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Which team is best situation to go to?

Coaches:
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Which is best available coach?
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I have no idea why Tortorella gets considered to coach ANYTHING... he shouldn't be in any conversation for it... did an absolutely awful job here and is a dinosaur that can't change.

I would also very much doubt that Quenneville is ever going to coach again after the Kyle Beach thing. Same with Babcock for his own bullying issues.

I could see Green going to the Flyers at this point... they're basically an AHL roster lol
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