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MG1 09-22-2022 10:53 AM

Shit's hitting the fan. Russian citizens are taking action. Typical, I guess. No action until it starts affecting them directly.

Putin might have pushed it a little too far this time.

murd0c 09-22-2022 02:22 PM

I think the writing is now on the wall, Putin isn't going to be around much longer.

GS8 09-22-2022 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 9076679)
That's suggesting that ignoring a problem means it no longer exists

I knew someone would reply with this but that isn't what I meant.

You can read news articles to understand issues and conflicts around the world but it's a disingenuous way to live your life.

Shutting down your digital connection to the world is more productive towards making the world better. You fix what you can, where you can.We can't fix Ukraine or South Sudan, but we can help address areas local to us because those areas impact us directly.

Going down internet rabbit holes isn't conducive to mental health wellness. That's especially why I hate platforms like Twitter.

SkinnyPupp 09-22-2022 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GS8 (Post 9076738)
I knew someone would reply with this but that isn't what I meant.

You can read news articles to understand issues and conflicts around the world but it's a disingenuous way to live your life.

Shutting down your digital connection to the world is more productive towards making the world better. You fix what you can, where you can.We can't fix Ukraine or South Sudan, but we can help address areas local to us because those areas impact us directly.

Going down internet rabbit holes isn't conducive to mental health wellness. That's especially why I hate platforms like Twitter.

OK so if you're an American and your government is trying to take rights away from women, LGBTQ, and everyone who isn't white, the solution is... shut down your internet?

It sounds nice, and it's probably better for mental health not to think about bad things.. but these things are happening, and it's up to people to try to stop it. I agree twitter is full of shit.

JDMDreams 09-22-2022 04:53 PM

Anyone think Putin will go full crazy? :pokerface: cuz I mean all democratic leaders will have to watch votes, mid terms etc. But I mean he can just use nukes if you push him into a wall and don't give him face.

underscore 09-22-2022 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 9076741)
OK so if you're an American and your government is trying to take rights away from women, LGBTQ, and everyone who isn't white, the solution is... shut down your internet?

It sounds nice, and it's probably better for mental health not to think about bad things.. but these things are happening, and it's up to people to try to stop it. I agree twitter is full of shit.

"All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

inv4zn 09-22-2022 09:47 PM


If anyone knows how to embed tweets, lmk lol

Traum 09-22-2022 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9076744)
Anyone think Putin will go full crazy? :pokerface: cuz I mean all democratic leaders will have to watch votes, mid terms etc. But I mean he can just use nukes if you push him into a wall and don't give him face.

Is that pretty much the original question that started this thread?

Given how he had already gone crazy and started this war, I would not at all be surprised to see him make good of his word on using a tactical nuke on Ukraine.

And then what happens afterwards is... just gonna be crazy... FailFish

p.s. Would someone from his inner circle just assasinate him already?

SkinnyPupp 09-22-2022 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traum (Post 9076756)
Is that pretty much the original question that started this thread?

Given how he had already gone crazy and started this war, I would not at all be surprised to see him make good of his word on using a tactical nuke on Ukraine.

And then what happens afterwards is... just gonna be crazy... FailFish

p.s. Would someone from his inner circle just assasinate him already?

He's been killing off parts of his inner circle for weeks now. Every day there's a new report of some Russian oligarch or military or otherwise influential person in Russia who "fell out of his window" or "commited suicide after killing his family" and whatnot. If you're not 100% in his corner, you're as good as dead. And it's happening all over the world.

https://thedebrief.org/why-do-influe...riously-dying/

GS8 09-22-2022 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 9076741)
OK so if you're an American and your government is trying to take rights away from women, LGBTQ, and everyone who isn't white, the solution is... shut down your internet?

It sounds nice, and it's probably better for mental health not to think about bad things.. but these things are happening, and it's up to people to try to stop it. I agree twitter is full of shit.

Not sure why American-isms always need to be the leading question, especially pertaining to extreme hypotheticals. When the broad sweeping strokes get pointed with that 'gotcha' (written interlinea), it does make for a pretty quick ALT+F4 result because this frame of discussion ultimately leads nowhere. Your statement would have to be parsed and dissected to form a foundation to which our platforms for discussion can even have a launching point.

It's not about rejecting the reality about bad things happening. It's about acknowledging what's happening far but also near and exercising your right to help address what's near because it's much more accessible, let alone personable. If everyone fixed what's near, we'd have a pretty wide coverage of socially terraforming the earth. But ultimately, it's all one giant bystander effect (re: someone else will do it). Not to mention, human nature is simply too diverse to achieve worldwide social cohesion.

SkinnyPupp 09-22-2022 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GS8 (Post 9076758)
Not sure why American-isms always need to be the leading question, especially pertaining to extreme hypotheticals. When the broad sweeping strokes get pointed with that 'gotcha' (written interlinea), it does make for a pretty quick ALT+F4 result because this frame of discussion ultimately leads nowhere. Your statement would have to be parsed and dissected to form a foundation to which our platforms for discussion can even have a launching point.

It's not about rejecting the reality about bad things happening. It's about acknowledging what's happening far but also near and exercising your right to help address what's near because it's much more accessible, let alone personable. If everyone fixed what's near, we'd have a pretty wide coverage of socially terraforming the earth. But ultimately, it's all one giant bystander effect (re: someone else will do it). Not to mention, human nature is simply too diverse to achieve worldwide social cohesion.

Nobody is trying to hit you with a 'gotcha' we're just chatting here about stuff. At least I am. Not sure what all this about parsing and dissecting and forming platforms to which whatever launching point etc is all about, but anyway.. Just chatting on a chat board here, feel free to reply or ignore

America is used as an example because they're an example of a country that is in turmoil, but is set up so people can actually change how things are going if they want. Compared to what happened in HK or what's going on in Iran right now, Americans still have a lot of say in how their country is run. We already saw it with Kansas.

Canada is kind of seeing a minor effect from what's going on in America, but to a much lesser extent. There are Canadian seditionist truckers, but really they are more annoying than anything. But if they really did start to have some sort of effect on Canadian lives, yo can bet people would be trying to put a stop to it. Not just ignore it and hope it goes away.

Mr.Money 09-23-2022 04:16 AM

Putin know's this happened once before and it'll happen to him if he's not careful enough why people around him are dying off.



blkgsr 09-23-2022 06:17 AM

you think after putin is killing these people he's confiscating their bank accounts/properties etc to 1) held fund his stupid war and 2) garner more wealth for himself?

68style 09-23-2022 07:23 AM

Some of these guys were probably begging for the sweet release of death. How can someone work at the same place for 45 fucking years???

Badhobz 09-23-2022 08:20 AM

hey man thats the whole reason why i buy toyotas. My ratrolla is built by takumi wackos who pretty much all worked there 30+ years.

They also can make a paper cat with their off hand in under 60 seconds (WEIRD)

BaoTurbo 09-23-2022 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inv4zn (Post 9076755)
https://twitter.com/FintanOToolbox/s...11468101140480

If anyone knows how to embed tweets, lmk lol

Ahahaha the guy in the blue dress shirt is like "shoulda kept ur mouths shut, see you later buds"

whitev70r 09-23-2022 09:31 AM

I don't get that video of 2 young pro-war drafting ... why were they taken away by police afterwards? Straight to the army? But I thought the captions said they were willing to go.

Great68 09-23-2022 12:08 PM

I think the assumption is that they were full of BS talking about how they were going to sign up the next day.

Their body language when the cops grabbed them made it seem like they weren't actually too thrilled to be going.

SkinnyPupp 09-23-2022 08:35 PM


underscore 09-23-2022 10:15 PM

Jesus fucking Christ.

Excuse me while I go hug my 4 year old.

MG1 09-23-2022 10:23 PM

Just when you start to believe in humanity again............... man, we are all in a dark, dark place. I agree with what another member posted. Putin needs to be put down like a wounded animal.

My heart goes out to the Ukrainian people.



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On a lighter note, were any jewels or artifacts taken?

SkinnyPupp 09-25-2022 08:25 AM

Putin has escaped to a secret palace in a forest amid anti-draft protests in Russian cities, report says

GLOW 09-25-2022 09:13 AM

re-skinny's post - how does it play out, can they actually ID the soldiers involved and put them on trial, or would it be more so putting their superiors on trial at some world tribunal, or does russia just say fake news and nothing happens?

how does accountability happen on the world stage if at all?

Hondaracer 09-26-2022 01:50 AM


SkinnyPupp 09-26-2022 04:15 AM

No idea how valid this is but it looks like Russians aren't fans of being used as cannon fodder



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