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Old 09-30-2004, 07:20 PM   #301
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Decided to put my bumper on. No bulb in the driver side lense yet so that's why tehre is no reflection...

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Old 09-30-2004, 09:46 PM   #302
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droped the motor in my car this week
shit doesnt seem right......

What is wrong??? I might be able to help??
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Did a compression test. 95lbs Also put teflon tape under the brake/master cylinder clamps and checked for cleanliness of the air filter. Inspected the plug, checked rad fluid and toped off the gearcase.
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ate chode on my way home from school as the headgasket went again. piece of shit..
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Old 09-30-2004, 11:33 PM   #305
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Ouch man.... turn down the boost. haha
Judgin by your sig your getting rid of it, why man??

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boost is backed all the way off.... and i'm not necessarily getting rid of it, but if someone wanted to buy it and they met the price of what i have into it i'd sell it. It's not a car i can work on myself when somthing goes wrong.
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ate chode on my way home from school as the headgasket went again. piece of shit..
That doesn't sound right... Faulty install maybe? Who installed it?
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That doesn't sound right... Faulty install maybe? Who installed it?
Jacques I think..
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yeah... Cody is a good guy, i totally trust him to do anything on my vehicles, but maybe this once he messed up? I called a whole bunch of shops today and they said that even if the boost was turned up it should have no problem. The car has a factory boost cut at 14.2 psi or 14.7 psi which is'nt nearly enough to blow a headgasket. The least guarantee I got when I made my calls today was 3 months. For $100 more i could have gotten the work done at isuzu and they guarantee their work for 1 year or 20,000 km's. So i have no clue what i'm going to do.. this fucking car is going to kill me just to get it runing
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jsut get it done at the dealership to get warentee.
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that'll end up being a 3-4 week wait until the gasket comes in from japan and then all of a sudden it turns into a 1500$ headgasket job. seeing as how i have paid cody for his labour once already
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What is wrong??? I might be able to help??
I got it to idle finally after a valve adjustment and everything seems pretty good. I am still breaking in the clutch.
But when ever i bring it up to vtec its smokes like a mofo. I going to do a compression check sometime this week. THe valve cover and PCV vavle hose looks clean of blow by.
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The valve seals might be weak, is the pcv good ( does it rattle when you shake it ) if not go and buy a new one because that would make it smoke under vtec.

just so I know, it is blue smoke not black smoke right????

what ecu are you running??

you used a b series fuel line right??

are you using syn. oil or just regular oil??? 5w30??

if you are using syn it might account for some or most of the oil burning as DOHC hondas like to burn syn. ( at least all dohc ones I have encountered )

lemme know, good to hear the motor is finally in.
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thats for the help

i put a new PCV valve in before the motor went in
its for sure blue smoke
i am running p28 chiped for DOHC
i used a stock z6 fuel lines
i am using regualr oil 5w30 i was thinking maybe switching to 10w30
me and tom tryed to hook a catch can up where teh PCV vavle line and didnt do much of anything
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Yeah upon inspection both PCV vacuum hose and the valve cover breather hose are nice and clean without the catchcan so it's not like he's got serious blowby. Al, explain about the oil problem in that one cylinder. Check it tomrorow morning before you goto work tos ee if the plug is still oily...

Caus elast time al took out his spark plugs. one of the plugs was covered in oil. He used diff plugs now and hasn't checked it yet. But as I todl him. maybe soemhow his ehadgasket is seeping and there is a opening from an oil passage directly to taht cylinder therefore oil blowing into the cyilinder and burning on combustion.
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man how can you blow a head gasket again. the only reason that could happen would be a warped head(i assume you got it machined as you ALWAYS do this with head gasket job), possibly warped deck(of block, but highly unlikely), or inproper torqueing. only other thing would be if ya overheated but i'm sure you'd notice that, or constantly running lean(but your gangster lighted up guage would let you know, and that would just yield the above mentioned overheating problem). that sucks man, what the hell. maybe wrong gasket was sent/used. should Not happen, have never seen/heard of it before, is some simple stuff too.
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you CAN NOT use the d-series fuel line from the filter to the rail, the internals on the d line are about 1/2 the size and you will wreck you motor due to lack of flow.


I have extra b-series lines if you dont.
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man how can you blow a head gasket again. the only reason that could happen would be a warped head(i assume you got it machined as you ALWAYS do this with head gasket job), possibly warped deck(of block, but highly unlikely), or inproper torqueing. only other thing would be if ya overheated but i'm sure you'd notice that, or constantly running lean(but your gangster lighted up guage would let you know, and that would just yield the above mentioned overheating problem). that sucks man, what the hell. maybe wrong gasket was sent/used. should Not happen, have never seen/heard of it before, is some simple stuff too.
The head was NOT milled, I torqued it proporly using the two step method and cleaned all threads ( block and bolts ) put oil on the bolts so I would get a proper torque # ( the head bolts were also reused ??? ) The gasket was the right one as I compared it to the old one before install. The previous owner had overheated the car and that is why the gasket went the first time. This motor uses a iron block and a aluminum head so I would assume that if any warpage were to happen it would be the head not the block.

Those gangster guages you talk about are about as good as you walking up to your tail pipe and taking a sniff and saying that it is ok " it smells ok so it must be " that basically is what the guage is doing. for any accurate o2 readings you must have a wideband..............
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Caus elast time al took out his spark plugs. one of the plugs was covered in oil. He used diff plugs now and hasn't checked it yet. But as I todl him. maybe soemhow his ehadgasket is seeping and there is a opening from an oil passage directly to taht cylinder therefore oil blowing into the cyilinder and burning on combustion.
I have a new honda b16 headgasket if it comes to that.
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The head was NOT milled, I torqued it proporly using the two step method and cleaned all threads ( block and bolts ) put oil on the bolts so I would get a proper torque # ( the head bolts were also reused ??? ) The gasket was the right one as I compared it to the old one before install. The previous owner had overheated the car and that is why the gasket went the first time. This motor uses a iron block and a aluminum head so I would assume that if any warpage were to happen it would be the head not the block.

Those gangster guages you talk about are about as good as you walking up to your tail pipe and taking a sniff and saying that it is ok " it smells ok so it must be " that basically is what the guage is doing. for any accurate o2 readings you must have a wideband..............
Ahhh k, icic. i'd say that the lack of milling is your reason for another blowjob(and no, not the good kind). . especially if you used the 2, or 3, or 45 however many step torque sequence, as well as the correct bolt sequence, I'd say theres absolutely no way of blowing again, unless of course the head is warped, which i'd bet cash money that it is, ESPECIALLY AFTER OVERHEATING. I'd bet 100% that if the head was machined....we would not be having this discussion, oh well. ya live and ya learn right

edit- Yeah i completely agree with you on the alum. head warping before anything happening to the block. too bad, i'd have for sure spent the 30bux tops milling head, save you another head job.

edit-Yeah i thought those guages were simply using the signal off of teh o2 and transverting the Voltage signal(wanting a fluctuating .1V-.9V) into a lighting of the appropriate light on guage.
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Ahhh k, icic. i'd say that the lack of milling is your reason for another blowjob(and no, not the good kind). . especially if you used the 2, or 3, or 45 however many step torque sequence, as well as the correct bolt sequence, I'd say theres absolutely no way of blowing again, unless of course the head is warped, which i'd bet cash money that it is, ESPECIALLY AFTER OVERHEATING. I'd bet 100% that if the head was machined....we would not be having this discussion, oh well. ya live and ya learn right

edit- Yeah i completely agree with you on the alum. head warping before anything happening to the block. too bad, i'd have for sure spent the 30bux tops milling head, save you another head job.

edit-Yeah i thought those guages were simply using the signal off of teh o2 and transverting the Voltage signal(wanting a fluctuating .1V-.9V) into a lighting of the appropriate light on guage.
Oh all is understood and i know this is probably the reason why is blew again... I don't knwo why we did'nt mill the head? We both knew i wanted to get the headgasket done right the first time. But whatever it's in the past, I don't blame Cody at all for any of the work done. He did what he did well... This time it'll be done better. New headbolts, Factory Isuzu headgasket and we're going to get he head machined. There are guys running 20+ psi of boost in this motor with the factory HG, headbolts and a freshly machined head. So it should be all good when done
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yeah marshall.. OEM O2 sensors can only read so much..wideband is neeeded to do any sort of proper tuning.. my A/F gauge gives me a vauge idea of what's going on, but not exactly accurate.

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well I find een the narrowband A/F guages are good to tell you if you are running RICH or LEAN. if it's deep intot eh red.. It's prolly right.lol. Just not sure how much ha
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de-installed my ractive plug wires.. the pieces of shit don't fit right and the spark was just randomly jumping around from the molded plastic boots being too long and loose, cleaned up my old ones and runs as good as new.
why would you buy ractive anything?


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I didn't buy them.. a buddy of mine has a parts business, someone ordered them but didn't like the color.. so I borrowed them for the hell of it, but they are going right back to him.
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