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Old 02-04-2021, 09:28 AM   #11151
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thinking of going long CCL. they said they can survive 2021 without cruising, so as long as vaccines are coming then i only see good things for CCL as the year goes on. also, who cruises? a lot of older people who are in line to get the vaccines a bit earlier. once people get immunized they will start booking cruises again. currently trading at $20, down from it's pre-covid price of around $50. just based on that i think $30 wouldn't be unreasonable by EOY as long as no major shortages of vaccines. there's a risk of the price not going up in a straight line though, things like outbreaks on ships if they start too early are possible. i'd DCA this one. thoughts?
I've done my fair share of cruising having worked at a cruise agency for 5+ years early on in my career, and this is moreso personal preference/opinion, but generally cruising as an industry is pretty shitty. Poor conditions for onboard staff, negative environmental impact, as well as the impact of bad tourists on the destinations they go to. Also the fact that even before COVID they were hotbeds for gastro-intestinal disease and outbreaks.

The negative impacts have gotten significantly worse as they build larger and larger ships, allowing more and more guests, and making prices more and more affordable, thus appealing to the lowest common denominator.

That said, if you're in it to make money, it seems like cruiselines are very confident in things ramping back up with the vaccine. They are pre-selling tons of bookings even during the pandemic.
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Well I ain’t buying into cruise lines to improve their environmental impact lol..
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Just sayin' they have a lot more negative impact than just the environment. They are just shitty in many ways more than airlines.
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I love it when people rave about cruise lines being evil and negative

If your going to rip on cruises, you might as well rip on EVERY other business

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List is endless, literally every product we use or buy, has a toxic or evil side to it
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I love it when people rave about cruise lines being evil and negative

If your going to rip on cruises, you might as well rip on EVERY other business

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List is endless, literally every product we use or buy, has a toxic or evil side to it
Very true, but given the fact that there are funds and investment types that specifically cater to social responsibility, or environmental impact, or other causes, it is clearly something that investors care about or take into consideration in making decisions.

Also given the fact that there is a philosophy of personal investing to invest in things you truly believe in, use, or care about, I figured it was worth providing that perspective in the discussion of the pros/cons of going long on CCL.
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I sold one share of GME at 60 (up from 38) to spread into other stocks with potential. If the squeeze is dead, then at least it's a possible good long hold once the new CEO's plans become clear.
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No way to get into Hyundai and Kia stocks on TSX or NYSE, is there?
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No, but you can invest in Canoo via GOEV.

Hyundai and Kia are building EVs based on Canoo's platform and H/K will invest billions into Canoo over the next several years.
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I thought about it when most people were around the $15's but considering I only had so much free cash in my account not tied up I took a pass on something that may or may not happen. Yea, it has doubled so far but no lost sleep for me, there's always another play even if you lose out on one. Hope it happens though!
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No, but you can invest in Canoo via GOEV.

Hyundai and Kia are building EVs based on Canoo's platform and H/K will invest billions into Canoo over the next several years.
OK ... so if Apple partnership with Hyundai/Kia comes through and H/K uses Canoo platform, potential for Canoo as long term investment then. Trickle down effect.

It does boggle my mind why Apple would potentially find a dance partner with Hyundai/Kia. Has Hyundai/Kia's quality significantly improved?

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OK ... so if Apple partnership with Hyundai/Kia comes through and H/K uses Canoo platform, potential for Canoo as long term investment then. Trickle down effect.

It does boggle my mind why Apple would potentially find a dance partner with Hyundai/Kia. Has Hyundai/Kia's quality significantly improved?
Yeah, trickle down. But actually, I think Hyundai has an OTC - HYMTF.

Newer Hyundai's have very good build quality. My brother has a Elantra GT and it feels nice and drives well. I read their electric platform is good from DD that I've done.

I think Apple might be going with Hyundai/Kia because H/K both have fully integrated manufacturing plants and are willing to allow Apple have greater control over the process.
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I have a small amount ($600) in CCIV @ low $20s. There are a lot of rumours and "connections" that people are making with this SPAC and the share price has bounced around quite a bit. If the rumours are true and they sign a definitive agreement (DA) with Lucid, then this stock will MOOOOOOON. If not, expect it to crater down to ~$10. It's a gamble and it could go either way.
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Does anyone else have a position in MSTR (MicroStrategy)? They are extremely bullish on BTC, and they bought 70,000 in BTC back in 2020 for ~16,000 each. They recently held a webinar which was attended by over 1,000 corporations about the advantages of BTC as a store of value.

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I'm in it. So crazy it's up this much based on rumours.
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Bought in at 15... bailed at 25... wish I had held on but hindsight is always 20/20 lol
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hopefully Lucid is not another Nicola...

And there's still a risk where Lucid can just side with the Saudi's and cancel the SPAC deal.
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in $CCIV and $VFF, anyone riding the green wave?
US legalizing federally isn't just all talks anymore.

$VFF owns that growup in Delta just off hwy99 when you are going southbound. That lovely smell in the air. Been buying them @ $9 and $14, going long
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And there's still a risk where Lucid can just side with the Saudi's and cancel the SPAC deal.
Except Lucid actually has cars that are going into production at the end of the year.
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Anyone else riding the ZOM wave holy shit going to the moon boys.
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ZOM the next GME?
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Nah nothing like GME at all just a classic company that has a bright future scenario.
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Cool. Like BB, after the reddit BS peak at $30/share, it is now at a incremental strong sustainable gain.
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