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trip 06-23-2009 03:27 PM

and then pigs would fly while the heavens rained dollar bills down upon us, nothing is ever easy for us canuck fans.

Harvey Specter 06-23-2009 03:39 PM

Tough to say if Gaborik will sign for $4 mill, I think it'll be over $5 mill. He's an big impact player; look at the impact he made for the Wild this past season when he returned to the lineup. They almost made the post season because of him.

murd0c 06-23-2009 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jah Al Zawahiri (Post 6478966)
Tough to say if Gaborik will sign for $4 mill, I think it'll be over $5 mill. He's an big impact player; look at the impact he made for the Wild this past season when he returned to the lineup. They almost made the post season because of him.

sometimes money aint everything and we saw that last year with Hossa (I love how it failed thats for sure) Gaborik might rather want to play for less with one of his best friends and have a fun season rather then making a quick buck and not having as good as a time. This day and age everyone looks at the players being so greedy making top dollar but for some reason with Gaborik I have a feeling money isn't everything.

Remember Demitra is getting old and Gaborik is only 27 he has lots and lots of time left if his hip issue is fixed and has lots of time to rack in the big bucks which he has already done.

Derek_N84 06-23-2009 04:10 PM

^ maybe with some luck he'll take a bigger discount so that nucks get more space for another player which could help bolster this team's offensive capabilities ..? one can hope right ? :D

Hondaracer 06-23-2009 04:10 PM

again, a long term deal could be in the works, but with gaborik thats a high risk situation

it would be great to have a full fledged sniper though

personally id probably rather have sedins + gaborik than go elsewhere

but fuck.. are we remaining too soft?

Harvey Specter 06-23-2009 04:25 PM

I hope we can sign Gaborik with a discount but I agree, long term is too risky, he's injury prone.

Noir 06-23-2009 04:46 PM

Why do people keep talking up the past history with Demitra? Like that's ever going to be a factor.

I doubt he'll take $2 to $3 million less just because of a friend and I doubt that just because he enjoyed playing with Demo, doesn't mean there isn't countless other quality players in the 30 teams within the NHL.

SumAznGuy 06-23-2009 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 6479041)
Why do people keep talking up the past history with Demitra? Like that's ever going to be a factor.

I doubt he'll take $2 to $3 million less just because of a friend and I doubt that just because he enjoyed playing with Demo, doesn't mean there isn't countless other quality players in the 30 teams within the NHL.

It would if they have good chemistry. Imagine if the twins played on 2 seperate teams. That would teach them to be a little more humble. (J/K)

woob 06-23-2009 07:21 PM

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=11908

Pierre has us going with Stefan Elliot, Button has us taking Carter Ashton.

shawn79 06-23-2009 07:30 PM

since we r in the salary cap era.. has there / will be any cash under the table going on?

clowe 06-23-2009 07:32 PM

I think Gaborik turned down 7.5 from the Wild. No way he'll sign for 4-5m. If he were to sign here it will be for at least 6.5m even with the "discount" if Demo can convince him.

cressydrift 06-23-2009 08:00 PM

If I was MG,

Sign Daniel Dump Henrik (Fark Henrik)

Sign Gab

Trade Lu for Heatly (This wouldnt happen EVER, but I would try)

Let Ohlund go and Sign Bou DONE

Gab Sedin Demitra
Burrows Kesler Heatly
Wellwood Hodgson Beirner
Rypien Johnson Hordichuk

Bou Bieska
Salo Mitchell
Edler ?? (Need to think) Somebody HUGE

Cory in net
Barbs backup

DONE Stanley Cup champions.

Might cut wellfeed...

ienhz 06-23-2009 08:20 PM

makes no sense at all
why would daniel sedin play center? not to mention that most people think henrik is the more valuable twin anyways.

luongo for heatley would be overpaying. luongo is worth more than heatley under normal circumstances, but now that heatley has demanded a trade and even given a list of cities, there's no way ottawa will get fair value for heatley.

lastly, putting schneider in net as our full time #1 doesn't seem like a good idea at all.

cressydrift 06-23-2009 08:40 PM

I totally forgot. Most people here are for Gabs but do you know who our coach is? A.V
(A. VAGINA)! He is a defend first coach. Cost us a series in the playoffs. We would have been swept by Detroit but still. Everyone Remembers Game 4... Up 1-0, 12 shots the hole game or something stupid? You think the players came up with that plan?

LYNCH AV!

6thGear. 06-23-2009 09:07 PM

No wonder I wasn't getting updates on my Blackberry on the Canucks thread. lol.

Anyway, it's funny how I said we should sign Gaborik before and everyone shot that idea out the window and I come on here and all I see now is everyone thinking we should sign him. haha. But I do agree on a short term contract and see how it plays out. He also turned down the offer from Minnesota cause he doesn't want to play there anymore. Doesn't mean he won't take less elsewhere.

CRS 06-23-2009 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cressydrift (Post 6479327)
If I was MG,

Sign Daniel Dump Henrik (Fark Henrik)

Sign Gab

Trade Lu for Heatly (This wouldnt happen EVER, but I would try)

Let Ohlund go and Sign Bou DONE

Gab Sedin Demitra
Burrows Kesler Heatly
Wellwood Hodgson Beirner
Rypien Johnson Hordichuk

Bou Bieska
Salo Mitchell
Edler ?? (Need to think) Somebody HUGE

Cory in net
Barbs backup

DONE Stanley Cup champions.

Might cut wellfeed...

:stupid:
:facepalm:

You must be from CDC. No one can be that stupid.

Derek_N84 06-23-2009 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cressydrift (Post 6479327)
If I was MG,

Sign Daniel Dump Henrik (Fark Henrik)

Sign Gab

Trade Lu for Heatly (This wouldnt happen EVER, but I would try)

Let Ohlund go and Sign Bou DONE

Gab Sedin Demitra
Burrows Kesler Heatly
Wellwood Hodgson Beirner
Rypien Johnson Hordichuk

Bou Bieska
Salo Mitchell
Edler ?? (Need to think) Somebody HUGE

Cory in net
Barbs backup

DONE Stanley Cup champions.

Might cut wellfeed...

A player like Henrik is more valuable if I had to pick one.

Why would OTT trade us Heater for Lou ..? They picked up Pascal for a reason and besides Lou is way more valuable to this team than Heater considering Cory isn't proven yet.

Quote:

I totally forgot. Most people here are for Gabs but do you know who our coach is? A.V
(A. VAGINA)! He is a defend first coach. Cost us a series in the playoffs. We would have been swept by Detroit but still. Everyone Remembers Game 4... Up 1-0, 12 shots the hole game or something stupid? You think the players came up with that plan?

LYNCH AV!
Game 4 was up in the air, if we had won; you'd be jumping on the wagon screaming he's a genius. If you really had watched the game, you would have taken notice that the shutdown was working. The Hawks were effectively demoralized and we were so close to taking that 3-1 lead in the series. You can blame it on the plan AV took or you could blame it on Mitchell playing the puck to the boards instead of down the middle which was wide open. One mistake and Chicago jumped on it, kudos to them for capitalizing. Swept by Detroit? This is playoff hockey, anything can happen. Our team was built to handle teams like Detroit, SJ, Calgary etc, just shows how much faith you really do have in this team though.

Harvey Specter 06-23-2009 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clowe (Post 6479275)
I think Gaborik turned down 7.5 from the Wild. No way he'll sign for 4-5m. If he were to sign here it will be for at least 6.5m even with the "discount" if Demo can convince him.

Actually it was a long term deal (7-10 years) which would have paid him anywhere from $8.5 - $10mill a season. My only question is did he refuse the deal because of Jacques Lemaire and is he now thinking about staying with the Wild because of a new coach?

Noir 06-23-2009 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek_N84 (Post 6479506)
Game 4 was up in the air, if we had won; you'd be jumping on the wagon screaming he's a genius. If you really had watched the game, you would have taken notice that the shutdown was working. The Hawks were effectively demoralized and we were so close to taking that 3-1 lead in the series. You can blame it on the plan AV took or you could blame it on Mitchell playing the puck to the boards instead of down the middle which was wide open. One mistake and Chicago jumped on it, kudos to them for capitalizing. Swept by Detroit? This is playoff hockey, anything can happen. Our team was built to handle teams like Detroit, SJ, Calgary etc, just shows how much faith you really do have in this team though.

Uuuuh no. The Hawks weren't demoralized considering how the team just let the Hawks walk into our zone so that everyone can play cheat defensively and play positioning hockey. It was a matter of time and AV gambled they would run out.

But who the fuck would gamble like that on a ultra-offense team like CHI with Kane, Toews, Sharp, Versteeg, Seabrook & Havlat to name a few.

winson604 06-23-2009 10:52 PM

Game 4 talks again huh. Lets make some things clear first. First of all it wasn't Mitchells fault that Havlat got that chance. If you watch that entire sequence again you will notice that there were multiple mistakes in a row by the Canucks and Mitchell happen to be the last one. Of course noobs will only notice and remember whoever fucked up last. Go watch it again it wasn't Mitchells fault.

Second of all yes we only had 12 shots or whatever but we did have multiple odd man rushes in the game. However, due to our lack of ability that game to do shit with those odd man rushes not only did we not get any good scoring chances out of it but we didn't even manage to generate shots with those rushes.

PinoyDrifta 06-23-2009 11:34 PM

i think gaborik would do us good here...and yeah forget the twins get rid of them...

rb 06-23-2009 11:38 PM

^ yeah, lets forget about those two bums that have put 70+ points a season in the last few years :rolleyes:

PinoyDrifta 06-23-2009 11:42 PM

^yeah well those 2 bums said something along the lines of i love vancouver and all it's fans and they cant even sign for less imo i dont thbink the twins are 6 mill players...maybe 4-5 but not 6-7 shit...rather spend that money on sumone of a high caliber player...

ienhz 06-24-2009 12:07 AM

if we give them that 12 year deal, the cap hit would be about 5 million. lets not forget that they turned a 3rd line grinder into a 28 goal scorer. they even managed to get a complete garbage player like pyatt to pump out 20+ goals.

it'd be nice if we could get a real sniper like heatley or kovalchuk to play on the RW with them but it'll probably never happen.

raygunpk 06-24-2009 12:16 AM

heatley - hodgson - gaborik
niedermayer - bouwmeester
luongo

settings - line changes off, fatigue off
rules - no offsides, no icing, no penalties

win cup


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