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!Nhan 08-20-2009 04:22 PM

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/blogs...phy_schroeder/

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Word is the Canucks want to sign Schroeder, which would spell the end of his university career at Minnesota.

mako 08-20-2009 04:27 PM

^
Dave Gagner was saying a while back that he believes that Schroeder could possibly make the team this year. He's that good.

CRS 08-20-2009 08:57 PM

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Stan Smyl sets the record straight on prospect Sergei Shirokov

Lucky number 38. That’s what Sergei Shirokov is hoping to become.

As of the end of the 2008-09 season there were 37 Russian-born players competing in the NHL, including the likes of Ilya Kovalchuk, Pavel Datsyuk, Evgeni Malkin and Alexander Ovechkin.

Shirokov is far from a household name like that fab four, but in the eyes of the Vancouver Canucks, he could develop into one.

As part of the lopsided trade that brought Roberto Luongo and Lucas Krajicek to Vancouver in exchange for Todd Bertuzzi, Bryan Allen and Alex Auld, the Canucks also received a sixth round pick in 2006, which former GM Dave Nonis used on Shirokov.

Many people questioned the pick as even though it was a late round flyer, chances were slim the 23-year-old would ever leave the Kontinental Hockey League, often regarded as one of Europe’s strongest leagues.

Taking that into consideration, Stan Smyl, senior advisor to general manager Mike Gillis, still endorced the selection because of the tremendous upside Shirokov presented.

“We really liked his skills with the puck,” said Smyl. “He’s an offensive minded type of a player who's very creative with the puck and likes to make plays, but also is good at finishing. One thing he’s really good at is accuracy shooting the puck. It’s not the hardest shot, but he has good accuracy of where he wants to put the puck.”

The Canucks signed Shirokov, a Moskow product who stands 5-foot-10 and weighs in at 176-pounds, earlier this week meaning he’ll defect to North America, not from it, which if often the case.

Having watched Shirokov in person last winter, Smyl couldn’t be happier the Canucks inked this prospect.

“The KHL really put a lot of pressure on him to stay there, so under those circumstances, for him to decide he wants to play here really says a lot. That, to me, shows where the kid wants to play and that he’s ready to experience a new game and a new challenge for himself.”

One of the major reasons Smyl is buzzing about Shirokov is that he’s witnessed first hand the changes that this young sniper has made to his game.

“From the World Juniors to myself going in to watch him last year after not seeing him for a few years, he has gotten better. He’s taken on a little bit more of a leadership role, he was playing with a lot of older players but he was in the top six forwards on his team and he’s gotten a lot stronger.”

Like any potential diamond in the rough, much polishing is needed and Smyl leaned towards Shirokov’s defensive awareness as an area in need of improvement.

The longtime Canucks captain had to think long and hard before finding an aspect of Shirokov’s game that needs sharpening – “Whenever you talk about a player offensively and how creative he can be, you always worry about him defensively,” – yet Smyl’s biggest concern is how the forward will adjust to hockey in North America.

As Shirokov will soon realize, he ain’t in Russia any more.

One noticeable change will be the number of games played. The last time Shirokov hit the ice for more than 60 games in a season was back in 2003-04; he played 52 and 57 over the last two years, respectively.

Whether he can leech on with the Canucks or the budding right-winger earns his antlers with the Manitoba Moose this fall, Shirokov is looking at a grinding 80-plus game schedule.

If that doesn’t temper his style, Smyl cautioned that how the game is played in the NHL and AHL is drastically different than the KHL.

“Any player coming over to play the North American game knows that it’s completely different. I think the tempo will be a lot higher, more intensity, more physical type of games that he’s going to have to adjust to over here. Those things can be a major adjustment for players.

“How would I compare the KHL with the AHL? I think it’s right up there in a lot of ways. He has that experience now that he’s played at that level, a pro level, and that makes him closer to getting into the NHL. How he handles the intangibles will be key.”


According to HockeyDB, 12 Russian-born players have suited up for the Canucks since the team’s NHL inception, with the most recent being Artem Chubarov in 2004.

Hands down the most popular Russian to ever bring Vancouver fans to their feet was The Russian Rocket, Pavel Bure. Alexander Mogilny, or Alexander the Great, draws a close second and when pinned in a corner and asked to compare Shirokov to another player, whether with the Canucks or not and Russian or not, Smyl went with Mogilny.

“That’s an interesting question,” laughed Smyl, who was hesitant to compare the unproven Shirokov with any NHL player.

“I don’t know if I can really compare him to anyone, he just has his own game. He reminds me a little bit of, and I hate to put this comparison out there, but the Mogilny-type.

“I think he’s a guy who plays the game at his pace and he can make plays so he has a little bit of that element to his game like Mogilny really had.”

Lucky number 38 is what Shirokov is looking to become, yet if he develops into a mainstay fo
http://canucks.nhl.com/club/news.htm...id=van-home-dl

Ch28 08-20-2009 09:02 PM

http://www.vancouversun.com/Ernie+Pu...195/story.html

Ernie "Punch" McLean found and safe

shawn79 08-20-2009 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nismo_s13 (Post 6556653)
^
Dave Gagner was saying a while back that he believes that Schroeder could possibly make the team this year. He's that good.

i watched all the U.S.A world junior games and was like holy shit... for a 5'8 guy. TOTAL DOMINATION! :eek:

Ch28 08-22-2009 11:49 AM

http://translate.google.com/translat...istory_state0=

Roberto Luongo is preparing to contest the fourth and final year of his contract with the Vancouver Canucks. Talks to extend this agreement habe been underway for several weeks and the 30 year old goalie wants to come to an agreement before the start of training camp.

"I think it's important not to have this distraction there during the season, Luongo revealed prior to the start of the first edition of the golf tournament that bears his name. Especially with the Canadian media, it can not never end! That's why we will try to resolve it before the start of camp, so there is no problem during the season."

"The biggest issue between Roberto and Vancouver was' is he wants to stay here?''And the answer was given. Roberto wants to end his career there, said his agent, Gilles Lupien. Now it's a question of length of contract."

The last game Luongo goes back to May 11. That evening, he gave up seven goals and had seen the Chicago Blackhawks eliminated the Canucks in six games. Luongo does not hide it: he has struggled to digest these events.

"It was not easy, especially the first months of summer. Even today I still believe, but it's not something that will affect the rest of my career. It is a single match, these things happen. I remember with the Colorado Avalanche, Patrick Roy has already lost one final game 7-0 against the Red Wings.

Unless a surprise or injury, Luongo will be part of the Canadian team attending the Olympics in Vancouver in February.The question now is whether he can overtake Martin Brodeur and be the number one goalkeeper of the team.

"Whatever the decision of the leaders, I will accept promises Luongo. It's the Olympics, we play for our country. Whatever role they give me, I will accept it."

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

Vansterdam 08-22-2009 12:02 PM

omfg that be so epic

MR_BIGGS 08-22-2009 12:16 PM

WOW....season hasn't even started and we're on the 41st page for the season...the ICE went in..

murd0c 08-22-2009 12:19 PM

I won't believe the Lu article until he signs too much BS with the media these days

Not really racist! 08-22-2009 10:08 PM

Hopefully a deal gets done before the season starts... Lu needs to stay!

SumAznGuy 08-22-2009 10:19 PM

Sundin makes a descision.

http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Su...001/story.html

He's getting married. Not hockey descision yet though.

Hondaracer 08-22-2009 10:33 PM

Career reg season save percentage:

Luongo .919
Brodeur .916
Kipper .912
Nabokov .911
Fleury .907
Osgood .903

Career Playoff Save %:

Luongo .930
Kipper .921
Brodeur .920
Ward .917
Osgood .916

Last season Save % and GAA:

Luongo .920 2.34
Brodeur .916 2.41
Ward .916 2.44
Fleury .912 2.67
Nabokov .910 2.44
Kipper .903 2.84

MR_BIGGS 08-22-2009 10:35 PM

Those numbers don't lie..but he's gotta get us to the big dance...all the goalies in each of the three lists have been to the cup finals and a handful have won the cup..

hotjoint 08-22-2009 10:49 PM

Luongo is over rated

MG1 08-23-2009 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by hotjoint (Post 6559514)
Luongo is over rated

I almost have to agree here. Luongo lovers will disagree and jump all over anyone who says anything remotely negative about their hero, but.......

He's a very intense guy - emotional. It can work for you or it can work against you. Any kind of distration and it's lights out.

As for Sundin............ wow.

Razor Ramon HG 08-23-2009 12:11 AM

Luongo is good, but I wouldn't think twice about trading him if the right trade came up.

fobulaus 08-23-2009 01:56 AM

IMO luongo is good, great 5 mil guy.. but the 8 mil he wants is asking for way too much... I mean Brodeur only makes 5.2 mil

Soundy 08-23-2009 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by hotjoint (Post 6559514)
Luongo is over rated

People who know a fuckuvalot more about hockey than all of RS combined, tend to disagree...

There's not a GM or coach in the league who wouldn't sell his mother for one of the current top-5 netminders in Louie.

MG1 08-23-2009 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 6559724)
People who know a fuckuvalot more about hockey than all of RS combined, tend to disagree...

There's not a GM or coach in the league who wouldn't sell his mother for one of the current top-5 netminders in Louie.

Sure, but they're not always right, either. I don't think anyone here thinks he's bad in any way, shape, or form. The hype about his play may be a little.... don't know how to put it. Anyway, he loves it here. Fancy that.

Hondaracer 08-23-2009 10:32 AM

as i've said before, at 7 million, does a player like Lecavlier, Hossa, etc. give you a better chance at winning games than Luongo?

winson604 08-23-2009 10:53 AM

Luongo gets arena named after him

http://thehockeynews.com/articles/27...is-honour.html

PavelGTR 08-23-2009 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by hotjoint (Post 6559514)
Luongo is over rated

Refer to post #1612

SumAznGuy 08-23-2009 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Livre (Post 6559894)
Refer to post #1612

And yet we do not see any stanley cups under his name.

Other than Kipper who took the Flames to the finals in 03/04 and Nabokov, everyone of those guys have won at least one cup.

Hondaracer 08-23-2009 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 6559914)
And yet we do not see any stanley cups under his name.

Other than Kipper who took the Flames to the finals in 03/04 and Nabokov, everyone of those guys have won at least one cup.

so do any of those "cup winning" goalies offer us a better chance to win one?

none of them bring more to the table then Luongo, although they might bring a lesser price tag, the quality of player you would get with that additional money is negligible wether that would push you over the edge or win you that many more games than Luongo would win you

Soundy 08-23-2009 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 6559914)
And yet we do not see any stanley cups under his name.

Other than Kipper who took the Flames to the finals in 03/04 and Nabokov, everyone of those guys have won at least one cup.

And that means what, exactly? That these goaltenders are ultimately useless? Or that the teams around them have failed?

A goaltender's stats are 99% his own... cup success depends on the whole team.


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