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nsmb 08-01-2009 08:46 PM

anyone hear this? LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uuFQ...eature=related

clowe 08-01-2009 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 6530275)
That's the whole point of front-loading contracts.

If you give a player $6M/year for 6 years, say... that's a $6M hit against your cap every year, and you end up paying a total of $36M.

If you split it over 12 years and front-load it, though... say you make it $7M for the first three years, $4M for the next three, and $500k for each of the last six years. That still totals up to $36M, but the cap hit is now only $3M/year, and the guy can play good for six years and then just sit on his thumbs and still get a decent annual salary (unless he retires).

Hossa's contract is pretty much set up for a buyout or retirement, in the final 4 years, he only gets on average, 875k per year. The first 8 years, he get gets 7.45M I believe. It's probably not worth his time to play 4 more years and only make 3.5m in total when he already has like 59m/62.4m in the bank already.

His cap hit is 5.2M, basically saves the Hawks 2.25m per year in cap space, that 2.25 can equal a pretty serviceable 2nd liner.

stuff99 08-03-2009 12:21 AM

Think the canucks will be interested in Kessel?

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/bos090802.html

Who can we offer for him?

Expresso 08-03-2009 01:02 AM

What about the whole Pronger mess too. Looks like Philly is on the hook for his huuuge salary even after he retires lol? Anyone have any updates.


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Originally Posted by stuff99 (Post 6531839)
Think the canucks will be interested in Kessel?

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/bos090802.html

Who can we offer for him?

That prospect will probably have to be Hodgson, Schroeder or Schneider. Which one would you part with?

Ch28 08-03-2009 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by HachiSix (Post 6531863)
That prospect will probably have to be Hodgson, Schroeder or Schneider. Which one would you part with?

Schneider is the most disposable one of the three IF we re-sign Luongo. I heard that Gillis is trying real hard to get a deal done before training camp. Trading Schneider anytime before an extension is done will handicap the Canucks because Lu's agent will use that against them.

Hodgson is basically an untouchable and Schroeder is a great prospect. Canucks are actually pretty damn lucky to have those two guys drop down to our position during the past two years.

dinamix 08-03-2009 05:59 AM

Burrows is in trouble..check tsn.ca
for details

68style 08-03-2009 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HachiSix (Post 6531863)
What about the whole Pronger mess too. Looks like Philly is on the hook for his huuuge salary even after he retires lol? Anyone have any updates.

That prospect will probably have to be Hodgson, Schroeder or Schneider. Which one would you part with?


I don't think the team is on the hook when the player retires... that's why Chicago wants it built in that Hossa retires... same reason Naslund retired this year (besides not wanting to play anymore) but it saves the Rangers his salary this coming season against their cap.

68style 08-03-2009 08:07 AM

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=286623

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Vancouver Canucks forward Alex Burrows could be facing charges stemming from an on-ice incident in a Montreal summer hockey league game.

According to a report on RDS.ca, an investigation is underway in response to a complaint filed on July 21 that states Burrows violently struck the face of a goaltender with his stick during a game at the Excellent Ice Arena in Kirkland, Que.

The report said the family of the goaltender, 19-year old Koray Celik, would not comment about the incident on the advice of lawyers.

"Police went to the arena, but there are no charges right now," Burrows' agent Paul Corbeil told The Globe and Mail. "[Police arrived] because some people called the police. They spoke with Alex but nothing more than that."

The summer league, also known as the PHL (Pond Hockey League), is described by Corbeil as a summertime circuit for professional, minor pro and college players.
Damnnnn what's Burrows doing playing in some recreational hockey league?!? Those guys are all going to be idiots and try to hurt him on purpose and crap... stupid!

Canucks assistant GM Laurence Gilman told The Globe that the team was "gathering all the facts" but would make no further comment.

CRS 08-03-2009 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dinamix (Post 6531938)
Burrows is in trouble..check tsn.ca
for details

No, he isn't. His agent even commented on how he never received the official accusations or charges.

Please refrain from using over-exaggerations that are NOT justified.

Oh and Kessel please (depending on amount of contract + length).

d1 08-03-2009 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 6531970)
Damnnnn what's Burrows doing playing in some recreational hockey league?!? Those guys are all going to be idiots and try to hurt him on purpose and crap... stupid!

Apparently Burrows cross checked the goalie in the face and he ended up losing a few teeth.

CRS 08-03-2009 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by d1 (Post 6532070)
Apparently Burrows cross checked the goalie in the face and he ended up losing a few teeth.

Word on the street was a slash. But it really makes you wonder, how the hell do you do that kind of damage when you're wearing full GOALIE gear?

P.S. What did happen with your retaking of the course?

d1 08-03-2009 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CRS (Post 6532073)
Word on the street was a slash. But it really makes you wonder, how the hell do you do that kind of damage when you're wearing full GOALIE gear?

P.S. What did happen with your retaking of the course?

A slash to the face. The goalie was probably talking shit with his mask off.

(My course load is full already so I'm holding it off until next semester)

wahyinghung 08-03-2009 01:41 PM

Report: Canucks President and CEO Chris Zimmerman resigning Tuesday
 
VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A number of sources tell News1130 Sports that Canucks President and CEO Chris Zimmerman will be resigning from the organization Tuesday morning.

Zimmerman was named to that position in the fall of 2006, and was responsible for the overall strategic direction of the company, including broadcasting, marketing, sponsorship and ticket sales. Before joining the Canucks, Zimmerman served as President and CEO of Nike/Bauer Hockey for 3 years.

mickz 08-03-2009 01:44 PM

The Canucks have had the WORST marketing in all of sports. #1 reason; they don't employ anybody who is a fan of the team for the higher up positions.

Harvey Specter 08-03-2009 01:45 PM

Hopefully Alex B doesn't get charged.

Noir 08-03-2009 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jah Al Zawahiri (Post 6532219)
Hopefully Alex B doesn't get charged.

As a Canuck fan, I hope not either. But as an impartial observer, he does deserve something though.

I'm sure if it was the other way around and Alex Burrow's yappy mouth earned himself a slash to the face, Canuckdom would be all up in arms and expecting penalties to the fullest extent.

Harvey Specter 08-03-2009 02:42 PM

Pretty dumb move on the part of Alex. You just signed a huge deal so you know you're going to have haters yapping at you. I think right now he should be worried about not getting sued.

mako 08-03-2009 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mickz (Post 6532217)
The Canucks have had the WORST marketing in all of sports. #1 reason; they don't employ anybody who is a fan of the team for the higher up positions.

you mean like that 7th man thing?

http://www.kuklaskorner.com/images/u...mbersever2.jpg

that didnt last too long

dinamix 08-03-2009 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRS (Post 6531972)
No, he isn't. His agent even commented on how he never received the official accusations or charges.

Please refrain from using over-exaggerations that are NOT justified.

Oh and Kessel please (depending on amount of contract + length).

i just said he's still in trouble ..i didnt imply shit,,who said i was exagerrating?..wtf was i justifying..who made u king of the castle?..lolz

mickz 08-03-2009 03:41 PM

Not to mention when the Canucks changed their logo in 1998 and had their "New Grit" campaign; on all their ads they tried to give each of the players a nickname... they were the least creative nicknames I have ever heard:

Ohlund - "Ohli"
Baron - "Bear"
Bertuzzi - "Bert"
Cloutier - "Clouts"
Linden - "Trev"

The Canucks think they can just GIVE anybody a nickname but it's the ones that are earned that actually stick around over time (ex. The Russian Rocket.)

The same goes for the 7th Man campaign, you can't simply MAKE a tradition and expect it to be a hit.

CRS 08-03-2009 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinamix (Post 6532321)
i just said he's still in trouble ..i didnt imply shit,,who said i was exagerrating?..wtf was i justifying..who made u king of the castle?..lolz

Where in my post did I ever say you were implying anything? I made a direct response.

You said he is in trouble but we all know that this is not the case (or not yet atleast. No formal charges = not in trouble).

Since I'm the King, I guess you're the Joker?

Soundy 08-03-2009 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickz (Post 6532323)
Not to mention when the Canucks changed their logo in 1998 and had their "New Grit" campaign; on all their ads they tried to give each of the players a nickname... they were the least creative nicknames I have ever heard:

Ohlund - "Ohli"
Baron - "Bear"
Bertuzzi - "Bert"
Cloutier - "Clouts"
Linden - "Trev"

The Canucks think they can just GIVE anybody a nickname but it's the ones that are earned that actually stick around over time (ex. The Russian Rocket.)

These "nicknames" are usually the ones the players have for each other, and fans were tossing them around long before the franchise decided to use them in a marketing campaign. It's not just the Canucks, listen to almost any player interview for any player on any team. They all have their short, usually one-syllable nicknames - when you're zipping around in the middle of play and Ohlund has the puck, calling for a pass with "MATTY!" or "OHLI!" is a lot more efficient than "Hey Mattias!".

Some of them make sense, some don't to anyone outside the room. A few years ago, I heard from someone who has connections to the team that Alex Auld's "private" nickname was "12-Step"... because of his initials. She said it had nothing to do with anything beyond that, but it's still not the kind of thing you want being bounced around the press.

Expresso 08-03-2009 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 6531969)
I don't think the team is on the hook when the player retires... that's why Chicago wants it built in that Hossa retires... same reason Naslund retired this year (besides not wanting to play anymore) but it saves the Rangers his salary this coming season against their cap.

I believe the CBA states any player over 35 that signs a contract and retires the salary is counted towards the cap.

The Flyers thought if they signed him while he's 34 they can get away with it. But the new contract doesn't kick in till he's 35, which could potentially count towards the cap for them.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I've read Holmgren is willing to take the hit if this is the case though.

stuff99 08-03-2009 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HachiSix (Post 6532567)
I believe the CBA states any player over 35 that signs a contract and retires the salary is counted towards the cap.

The Flyers thought if they signed him while he's 34 they can get away with it. But the new contract doesn't kick in till he's 35, which could potentially count towards the cap for them.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I've read Holmgren is willing to take the hit if this is the case though.

You are correct.

Harvey Specter 08-04-2009 04:43 PM

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VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - Canucks Sports & Entertainment has named General Manager Mike Gillis as their new president, after the official announcement that President and CEO Chris Zimmerman has stepped down for family reasons.

Gillis, in addition to his GM duties, will work with Chief Operating Officer Victor de Bonis on the overall strategic direction of the company, including broadcast, marketing, sponsorship and ticket sales, finance, human resources and arena operations.

Zimmerman spent the past three seasons providing the overall strategic direction for the company. He has decided to re-locate his family back to the eastern United States. He joined the organization after working in the U.S. with Nike Bauer Hockey.
.


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