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CRS 09-19-2009 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mugen EvOlutioN (Post 6600996)
lol doesnt seem like i got time this weekend


the closest one is poco

Where do you live?

855 Automall Drive, North Vancouver
15389 Guildford Drive, Surrey
5571 Parkwood Way, Richmond

Go pick one. Closest one is in poco? Really?

TripleXXX 09-19-2009 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1990TSI (Post 6600870)
I never had pics of my car in the album, just the funny ones you see there now.

don't be ashamed, your car is not fast at all :/ :haha:

TripleXXX 09-19-2009 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hk20000 (Post 6600907)
20psi making only 194WHP is rather weaksauce actually.

My Mitsu 2.0T can do 202AWHP at like....16psi running mostly factory hardware.

:haha: Genesis = weaksauce :haha:

TOS'd 09-19-2009 09:20 PM

IBfc.

Mugen EvOlutioN 09-19-2009 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRS (Post 6601097)
Where do you live?

855 Automall Drive, North Vancouver
15389 Guildford Drive, Surrey
5571 Parkwood Way, Richmond
coquitlam
near lougheed mall
Go pick one. Closest one is in poco? Really?

coquitlam
near lougheed mall
Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleXXX (Post 6601138)
don't be ashamed, your car is not fast at all :/ :haha:

wow u are a bigger ass than im

:eek:

CRS 09-20-2009 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mugen EvOlutioN (Post 6601297)
coquitlam
near lougheed mall


wow u are a bigger ass than im

:eek:


Jim Pattison Toyota Surrey‎ - more info »
15389 Guildford Drive, Surrey, BC V3R 0H9
9.3 km

Jim Pattison Hyundai Coquitlam‎ - more info »
2385 Ottawa St, Port Coquitlam, BC
10.9 km

From lougheed mall, Surrey is closer and is a 14 min drive away. Get off your ass and get into the genesis.

Mugen EvOlutioN 09-20-2009 08:30 AM

yes sir


wait a minute, jim patterson toyota surrey?


i thought im looking for hyundai dealership

Mugen EvOlutioN 09-20-2009 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilvtofu (Post 6600829)
Guy's probably speechless

:Orly::Orly::rolleyes:

CRS 09-20-2009 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mugen EvOlutioN (Post 6601582)
yes sir


wait a minute, jim patterson toyota surrey?


i thought im looking for hyundai dealership

:lol

Just give them a call and see if you do. When you search google, it is listed under hyundai.

http://www.jphyundaisurrey.com/

Jim Pattison Hyundai - Surrey
North Surrey Auto Mall
15365 Guildford Dr.
Surrey, BC
V3R OH9

Phone 604-582-8118

hk20000 09-20-2009 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleXXX (Post 6601140)
:haha: Genesis = weaksauce :haha:

No I don't mean it that way I mean it's odd that 2.0L + 20psi with no matter how small of a turbo have trouble breaking 200RWHP (that's around 260HP at crank for RWD?)

Suddenly you think maybe something isn't that efficient in the path of the flow, be it intake or exhaust end of it.

Mugen EvOlutioN 09-20-2009 01:37 PM

indeed it is pretty weird


20psi and barely breaks 200whp

edit

intake or exhaust, it still wont see 300whp even if it flows well. So i dont really think its that problem

godwin 09-20-2009 01:38 PM

Current Chrysler, Mitsu and Hyundais' I4 engines are all products of GEMA. Actually Hyundai did the initial designs.

It is likely that Hyundai's engines are more conservatively rated than the Mitsu.. since Lancer has a name to upkeep.

It can also mean that Mitsu just have better bolt ons than the Hyundai engines (from the factory).. which can be remedied quickly by after market people.

Basically Hyundai's Theta engine = Siemens VDO help on ECU coding, BW on variable timing mechanism; Mitsu = Mitsu in house. Unless Mitsu does extra things like micro polishing the parts before assembly, I can't see Hyundai's enghine can't do anything that Mitsu can.

Some people would ask why the collaborate.. the simple thing is Mitsu was broke, it is $$ and survival. Context is very important.

Comparing Civic SI and the Hyundai, one is the high strung, top of the range of its model range; the other is the starter of its model.. in the end it comes down to personal preference.You like all revs and drives in flat places like Richmond, pick the civic; You want initial torque and more rounded performance go for the Hyundai.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hk20000 (Post 6601779)
No I don't mean it that way I mean it's odd that 2.0L + 20psi with no matter how small of a turbo have trouble breaking 200RWHP (that's around 260HP at crank for RWD?)

Suddenly you think maybe something isn't that efficient in the path of the flow, be it intake or exhaust end of it.


ilvtofu 09-20-2009 01:45 PM

This is Edmund's dyno test
http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightlin...coupe-20t.html

Shows 200whp which means factory numbers were pretty conservative at 210hp

Toeknee 09-20-2009 03:30 PM

^ /facepalm @ the exhaust pipe

k20a 09-20-2009 09:14 PM

Wth is /facepalm @ exhaust?

Toeknee 09-20-2009 10:03 PM

http://jamie-online.com/random-jamz/...6/facepalm.jpg

http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightlin...mb-555x370.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by k20a (Post 6602293)
Wth is /facepalm @ exhaust?

http://jamie-online.com/random-jamz/...6/facepalm.jpg

Mugen EvOlutioN 09-20-2009 10:05 PM

lol tats one hell of a dent

d1 09-20-2009 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toeknee (Post 6601959)
^ /facepalm @ the exhaust pipe

And yet it still dynos nearly 200 whp :thumbsup:

!Tigger 09-21-2009 01:35 AM

only reason why its dented is so it can have some extra under brace tie...

Toeknee 09-21-2009 06:49 AM

The engineers could've had a billion other alternatives to make both the brace and pipe fit without denting the pipe... Maybe they're just purposely leaving places for enthuiasts to upgrade (so people are happy when they feel the gains)

Jackygor 09-21-2009 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toeknee (Post 6602727)
The engineers could've had a billion other alternatives to make both the brace and pipe fit without denting the pipe... Maybe they're just purposely leaving places for enthuiasts to upgrade (so people are happy when they feel the gains)

cause its cheap

1990TSI 09-21-2009 04:50 PM

Catback doesn't make any power on this car, shops have already removed that kink and found no gain, until a bigger turbo is installed and real power starts to be made.

ChinesePetro 09-22-2009 01:44 PM

pretty sure Hyundai's engineers made that kink for a good all-rounded purpose

btw which forum for genesis coupe?

!Yaminashi 09-22-2009 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1990TSI (Post 6603435)
Catback doesn't make any power on this car, shops have already removed that kink and found no gain, until a bigger turbo is installed and real power starts to be made.

So if you were to buy a catback you'd really only be paying for the sound and the look..

1990TSI 09-22-2009 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Hines (Post 6604948)
So if you were to buy a catback you'd really only be paying for the sound and the look..

If that's all you were changing, yes. if you did a 3" turbo back with an intake and did the free wastegate mod, you'd see a gain comapred to the stock cat back.

but cat back alone, no gains, where most cars do gain something. a few companys have claimed gains, but other companys have run open DP and found no power in stock form, same with removing the stock air filter, alone that gains nothing.




Pedro, the main site is www.gencoupe.com

There are others, but this seems to be the biggest and best.


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