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Old 01-13-2010, 05:19 PM   #51
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AJ always said,

"J's racing made 'special batch' for us. sometimes they did not come with J's racing badge. we don't know why"

I guess this official statement from J's racing proved it otherwise.
My co-worker bought some Spoon stuff that either didn't come with a Spoon badge or the quality was a bit shady. He never bothered to complain because he trusted them and their products. If it was that easy to copy one brand who's to say it isn't to do another?
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Old 01-13-2010, 05:27 PM   #52
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I wonder how much J's expects for compensation?
They probably don't care about the money. They just want to run AJR into the ground. In a polite japanese way of course.
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its been like that for years... they just goto TAS every year to see what new parts to copy

all of the T1R stuff for the R35 are exact duplicate of the ones from Amuse
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I came into this thread thinking that it has to be fake... I'm still a little skeptical at the whole thing. It's hard to believe a reputable vendor would do such a thing. I would definately wait for AJ's defense first.
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yawn.. so what else is new?
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ok so is this real or fake... what's going on ?
to many people in this thread chiming in speaking opposites, I'm confused.

if it's true then hopefully it'll be an end to all those horrendous AJ racing stickers that are plastered all over Fit's and S2K's around town.
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Errr T1R (AJR) and Type One Racing (Japan) are not related at all. So your b-pipe is genuine... it's just that it's a genuine AJR branded made in taiwan product.
thanks, i had the two confused as being the same.
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if your dumb enough to buy a $500 intake for a civic then maybe you deserve to be ripped off
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It's true, sparked a giant debate and turned a lot of the members on FitFreak against AJR's products. I'm amazed it took this long to reach the other car forums.

I'm currently running one of these exhausts, back then when I purchased it I didn't check for a plaque, or any form of authentication, just took the shops word for it. It doesn't sounds bad or looks "fake" by any means, just a bit bland looking. But what the hey! AJR was reputable and trustworthy, so here! Take my Visa.

Besides that, I have nothing bad to say about AJR, their service is pretty up there and they are a friendly bunch, everything else I have ordered came in just fine and authentic. The suspension setup I'm on which is also J's racing is 100% real, which is why I find that the exhausts being the only J's products that were deemed fake a bit weird.



Buyer beware I guess, always check for authentication on the products you are goin gto spend your hard earned money on.
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Spoon "Type One": http://typeone.jp/

"[Registrant] Spoon Co., Ltd."
http://www.whois.net/whois/typeone.jp

AJR T1R :http://www.typeoneracing.com/catalog/home.php

"Registrant: A&J Racing"

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We have only imported J's Racing products in the past. Whatever products J's Racing supplies us is what we sell to customers.

Regarding authenticity of parts, over 50% of the products we've received from J's Racing in the past may or may not have had J's Racing labels, badges, engravings, or stickers of "J's Racing". J's Racing did not notify us on any of these changes, so we was the importer at the time, were unaware of any changes made by J's.

AJ-Racing actually dropped the J's Racing line as of March 2009 due to internal issues that were never resolved in the past. In the last year, 8 North American dealers dropped J's Racing.

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Regarding the issue of J's Racing products, some of the products we've received from J's Racing have had logos imprinted on them, however, some have never had a "J's Racing" logo on it. We, as the importer never received notification from J's Racing of any of these changes.

Above all else, countless J's Racing products we have received did not even include the J's Racing stickers.

We have picture proof from J's Racing who had sent us the photos and also photos we have taken of their products on our own end.

These can readily be posted upon request.

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That is real. originally, we gave an X amount of quantity to get these made, we requested with 2 pieces design (for lower shipping cost for customers) no resonator (because we know the resonator will have high chance of breakage) and no colour on the muffler, only tip with gradient finish BUT anyhow, because of communication error, the exhaust were made with reinforced resonators and the muffler sits straighter. This particular exhaust did solved the previous resonator and rear muffler hangers hitting the subframe issues.

All these exhausts were imported in 2007 and if you asked me why the products didn't have sticker or badging, I seriously don't know what to say because for most of the time, they supplied the product like this.

AKA J's Racing North America's website = www.jsracing-net.com was an authorized website by j's. Most the information and material were supplied by them and we just hosted this site for information. Only some of the products that we have installed, we put up pictures to show customers fitment on USDM cars. For the ones we never installed, we have used the material which they supplied.

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php...ic=718060&st=0


I don't know..

either

J's racing is trying to frame AJR

or

AJR is selling fake J's exhaust..



time will tell..
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if your dumb enough to buy a $500 intake for a civic then maybe you deserve to be ripped off
Hahaha.

$900 for a muffler... I would say that the real J's racing is the bigger rip off.
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"9) Notification of the issue to your father, Anthony"
I'm also going to be telling Mommy and Daddy about all the bad stuff you did

funny thing is, they actually live right down the street from me
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Just to clarify this,
"Type One" = Spoon subsidiary.
"T1R" or "Type One Racing" = some AJR brand like President's Choice is to Superstore.

Did I get that right?
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Why would you pay money that much money for a muffler is just fucking retarded. Straight pipe ftw, and if you must pump something then atleast make it a glasspack or something straight through.

Anyways, they don't make shit for my car so as far as i'm concerned they can just go down the tube.
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i will be cancelling my orders tomorrow. i am not buying $6000 worth of fake shit. this is disappointing.
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6 Grand worth of stuff from AJR?

So thats like what? 3 parts?
Their shit is way over priced.
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Oh damn. I'm going to go check out my J's exhaust.
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the dates on the other forums are last summer. lol

im surprised RS is being notified half a year later...
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