AJ Racing selling fake J's racing products

[Mr.Jay]

yea, you kinda completely miss the points in the letter and starting posting

[10W-30]

Originally Posted by S14

Have you read the letter?

I read the letter. I haven't read other forums.

From what I read it seems like only J's and AJR are pointing fingers at each other. What I'm concerned about is the actual consumer. In my opinion they are the ones who got scammed the most. So if J's can demand a compensation, shouldn't the guys who possibly bought counterfeit products have the right to?

[k20a]

Originally Posted by eddy89

why do you need a tow hook on a FIT... can't handle all 96whp and need it tow off the ditch?

Im sure all the AJ sticker car owners are all going "DIUU!"

i think during Button Willow, if you are in the sand you might need a tow out. lol

[Doridori]

how about this approach?

http://www.ctv.ca/consumer/

[hotong]

Ajr is going to loose alot of customers.

[hal0g0dv2]

good thread to start the year off

[BMW135i]

Damn thats gonna be painful if it really sells fake.

[smk]

good thing i didn't buy the t1r exhaust yet!

[jbsali]

wow this company is fucked if they're selling counterfeit goods.

[XtC-604]

Originally Posted by Evil IX

I've been modding my cars for a long time and have been to a lot of shops, and for those that has been around would know how JDM companies always get sour eventually. I have purchased and owned a J's racing exhaust for my s2000, my other friend has owned multiple j's racing exhaust for the s2000. To be honest i think the J's racing exhaust (Authentic) is crap, why? because people who owns them especially s2k owners. They would start to rattle due to poorly built resonator if you drive it a bit intensely, the 02 Bung has fell off from other S2K guys in the states and J's racing didn't want to replace it, so AJ helped by pocketing their own money to satisfy the customer. If you search on S2Ki a lot of J's exhaust just poorly made, and they are 100% Authentic. JDM shit is all overrated, but to be Honest again though, their quality and consistency isn't anything to brag about anyway.

Not trying to help J's or AJ Racing but i personally dealt with AJ-R they know the pro's and con's. I had great experience dealing with A&J Racing

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php...=718060&st=100 This was posted back in Dec

I don't have any J's parts on my car except the front lip. From what i've seen with J's the fitment of their parts is actually really shitty, seen kits ordered from bulletproof, gotuning, and evasive including my front half lip.

Originally Posted by XshimaX

ya AJR should've really questioned on the changes that were made by J's without notice, where J's QC would be questioned, because I don't think anyone would've guessed the products coming straight from the manufacturer to be fake.

We only know those are knockoffs now because J's has made a statement, but even then it has not been stated officially on whether those knockoffs in question were obtained from AJR.

I'm giving AJR the benefits of the doubt because I'd like to believe a local reputable shop would not do such a thing.
So right now I'm seeing this more as a drama as an aftermath from a business deal that went sour

Agreed, in addition have you guys thought about it this way? T1R is taking alot of business away from J's. So that could be a reason for why J's racing might want to try and blame AJR for all of this.

Originally Posted by RotaryX

Hmmmm... This is interesting...

From what I know and seen on s2ki forums.... 90% of J's exhausts will break lol.... I know a few friends who owned these exhausts as well and they all broke. I know AJ stood by the customers side and requested J's to send replacement exhausts, but that never came lol... Looks like J's doesn't stand by their owns products... gg LOL...

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php...ic=712222&st=0

AJ-R's service has been really good, actually one of the bests i've been to. Jason is always dependable on honest opinions.

Originally Posted by Mugen EvOlutioN

lol they are, they moved to a really desserted area, its like a no-mans land

funny i was just thinking about getting J's valve cover, guess i will be saving money painting it my own


UPDATE : Yup, confirmed with couple insiders, AJ DID sell fake shit. BUt not every application they sold was fake from Js racing

So elaborate on this. Proof or you could be charged for defamation.

[LiquidTurbo]

Man.. if this is true.. did they really think they'd eventually get away with this???

[FeistyBearH22a]

Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo

Man.. if this is true.. did they really think they'd eventually get away with this???

It looks like they got away with it for several years.

[StylinRed]

Originally Posted by XtC-604

I don't have any J's parts on my car except the front lip. From what i've seen with J's the fitment of their parts is actually really shitty, seen kits ordered from bulletproof, gotuning, and evasive including my front half lip.


Agreed, in addition have you guys thought about it this way? T1R is taking alot of business away from J's. So that could be a reason for why J's racing might want to try and blame AJR for all of this.

AJ-R's service has been really good, actually one of the bests i've been to. Jason is always dependable on honest opinions.


So elaborate on this. Proof or you could be charged for defamation.

what the hell does the quality of Js Racing products have to do with anything?

why are these fanbois supporting a company thats screwing them...

[Jsunu]

Originally Posted by XtC-604

So elaborate on this. Proof or you could be charged for defamation.

What the christ!?! seriously?

Oh shit guys, watch it, its the INTERNET LAWYERS

[too_slow]

Originally Posted by XtC-604

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

Buddy, you're an eff-ing joke. You should just keep your god damn trap shut.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

xtc u really are a AJR fag boy arent you

[XtC-604]

Originally Posted by Mugen EvOlutioN

xtc u really are a AJR fag boy arent you

K i really don't give a shit if AJR goes out of business, but what i'm trying to say is, unless you heard it straight from the guys that are in the know, then don't be posting shit. To clarify i don't have a pig sticker on my car, im not affiliated with AJR and i told you to show some proof, and you got none, so stfu?

EDIT: i like how anyone trying to speculate another reason behind this is being flamed/failed. I guess no one here is mature enough to debate/prompt reasons. Its not like i get money or anything from arguing with you guys, so stop making it sound like i'm being paid by AJR.

[illicitstylz]

Well in that case surprised nobody that is sponsered by ajr has posted yet.
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[Jsunu]

Originally Posted by XtC-604

K i really don't give a shit if AJR goes out of business, but what i'm trying to say is, unless you heard it straight from the guys that are in the know, then don't be posting shit. To clarify i don't have a pig sticker on my car, im not affiliated with AJR and i told you to show some proof, and you got none, so stfu?

I really dont give a shit about the other stuff you indicated in your post, I was just posting how insanely retarded it is to try to sue some for defamanation... over the internet... in an anomous internet board.... for a car shop.... regarding the ongoing validity of their parts...

[5 Zigen]

honestly, this is such a drama for the past year and I personally is still doing business with AJR just because of the benefits of the doubts.

When everyone thinks everything J's says is right, and they failed people who stands for AJR, this is just like little kid hear something bad about a person and automatically thinks that person is BAD...

When the very first time I saw those pictures, first thing I wondered is: if they are going to copy something, why wouldn't they copy it to 95% if not 100%; that is so off to a point I wouldn't say pictures would tell, it just looks like two seperate brand product that somewhat looks similiar. This is not the way people copy brand name handbag / clothings etc, right? who would buy it?

Thru out the years I think T1R is doing not bad (even tho not my personal fav), I would get Spoon / Mugen parts for my beloved EK yet I would never get J's; it has been like knock off quality with a superior LOOK when it's NEW, yet good luck after a short while...but what does this post has to do with T1R?

I am not standing on neither side of J's or AJR, just a personal thought why J's wouldn't know AJR is selling their so called "fake" exhaust for like 2 years+, and wouldn't say a word until they got a new distributor in the states then everything just seems so "out of nowhere" and they became the victim. Don't forget, internet is a really quick place to spread the words, I'm sure people in Japan would have noticed such an issue within less than 3 months!? It's just a little bit too much of a coincident to me.

I'm sure there is a reason why AJR didn't say a word on here as they should be some legal actions taking in between the two business?! it's funny when J's racing statement says the issue should notify Anthony, it's like an elementary school teacher wants to interview a student's parents...

I really hope the issue can be settle then we will know who is right, who is wrong soon...but one day AJR is still around, that mean we should still give them the benefits OF the doubts because I'm pretty sure if they really MADE those FAKE exhaust, after almost a year J's should be able to knock them out of business long time ago...

come on guys, it's good for everyone to know such an issue but shouldn't we look for the outcome for this lawsuit first? we are not a judge or anything and I'm sure there will be people who is happy with this local shop but not happy with others, or happy everywhere else yet not with this local shop; I'm a licensed mechanic as well and I truely understand lots of the time one just can't make everyone happy ~ some people would think one does good work and is willing to pay more; some people would think one is expensive and he doesn't care how well you did the job for him ~ you are just expensive; some people wouldn't even care about what you did and they just paid for the agreed price (which of course, lots of the time I can see that's a rip off!)

cheers up everyone and I'm really waiting to see the outcome for this issue, as per J's described! Yet it could be a long and lasting one, it could be boring at the end (cause we are already too excited now)...

[XtC-604]

Originally Posted by Jsunu

I really dont give a shit about the other stuff you indicated in your post, I was just posting how insanely retarded it is to try to sue some for defamanation... over the internet... in an anomous internet board.... for a car shop.... regarding the ongoing validity of their parts...

I was being sincere in warning that DEFAMATION is pretty serious stuff, especially when it comes to a big reputable shop and that one should tread carefully, in any case it wouldn't be me suing, i'm warning. Trust me there have been more retarded cases in law. Heard of the woman that sued McDonalds because their cup didn't say CAUTION on it?

[too_slow]

^Amen... I think this thread should be locked until an official response from AJR is posted on their website.

(this was referring to 5Ziggen's post)

[XtC-604]

Originally Posted by StylinRed

what the hell does the quality of Js Racing products have to do with anything?

why are these fanbois supporting a company thats screwing them...

\
I just told you, i don't even have any J's parts, other than a front lip and i didn't even buy that it came on the car.

[BlackZRoadster]

Originally Posted by 5 Zigen

honestly, this is such a drama for the past year and I personally is still doing business with AJR just because of the benefits of the doubts.

When everyone thinks everything J's says is right, and they failed people who stands for AJR, this is just like little kid hear something bad about a person and automatically thinks that person is BAD...

When the very first time I saw those pictures, first thing I wondered is: if they are going to copy something, why wouldn't they copy it to 95% if not 100%; that is so off to a point I wouldn't say pictures would tell, it just looks like two seperate brand product that somewhat looks similiar. This is not the way people copy brand name handbag / clothings etc, right? who would buy it?

Thru out the years I think T1R is doing not bad (even tho not my personal fav), I would get Spoon / Mugen parts for my beloved EK yet I would never get J's; it has been like knock off quality with a superior LOOK when it's NEW, yet good luck after a short while...but what does this post has to do with T1R?

I am not standing on neither side of J's or AJR, just a personal thought why J's wouldn't know AJR is selling their so called "fake" exhaust for like 2 years+, and wouldn't say a word until they got a new distributor in the states then everything just seems so "out of nowhere" and they became the victim. Don't forget, internet is a really quick place to spread the words, I'm sure people in Japan would have noticed such an issue within less than 3 months!? It's just a little bit too much of a coincident to me.

I'm sure there is a reason why AJR didn't say a word on here as they should be some legal actions taking in between the two business?! it's funny when J's racing statement says the issue should notify Anthony, it's like an elementary school teacher wants to interview a student's parents...

I really hope the issue can be settle then we will know who is right, who is wrong soon...but one day AJR is still around, that mean we should still give them the benefits for the doubts because I'm pretty sure if they really MADE those FAKE exhaust, after almost a year J's should be able to knock them out of business long time ago...

come on guys, it's good for everyone to know such an issue but shouldn't we look for the outcome for this lawsuit first? we are not a judge or anything and I'm sure there will be people who is happy with this local shop but not happy with others, or happy everywhere else yet not with this local shop; I'm a licensed mechanic as well and I truely understand lots of the time one just can't make everyone happy ~ some people would think one does good work and is willing to pay more; some people would think one is expensive and he doesn't care how well you did the job for him ~ you are just expensive; some people wouldn't even care about what you did and they just paid for the agreed price (which of course, lots of the time I can see that's a rip off!)

cheers up everyone and I'm really waiting to see the outcome for this issue, as per J's described! Yet it could be a long and lasting one, it could be boring at the end (cause we are already too excited now)...

SHIT i just got a huge headache, btw: benefits for the doubts ? Can you explain what the means?

[5 Zigen]

Originally Posted by BlackZRoadster

SHIT i just got a huge headache, english much? thank you

i dun mind you to edit it for me, i was typing it in a rush so i might have problem with grammer, typo, or might not be even making any sense :P