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PORN

it was never a technical reason to not include flash. its just a business reason. ppl are still going to buy it flash or not.

And that makes them idiots. That is point being made here.

I honestly don't know why Apple is so against putting USB and SD card ports on the device. I mean, having all those adapters and shit just spoil the look in general.

Am I the only one that couldn't care less about a camera? I don't even think having one on a phone is a real feature. Handy sometimes for sending out picture of shit for Twitter but otherwise? Get a real fucking camera...

I think it comes down to a few things

1) they could have had a camera. In fact the OS supports it, even supports 3G video calling. But they didn't simply so they could sell it to the apple idiots again down the line

2) It's yet another thing that makes it stupid, along with everything else. Yet the apple idiots (and the niche it fills, which does exist) will slurp it up

Updated ;)

Even though I think dropping $500 in a club is stupid, at least you get something for it. dropping $500 on this thing, and well you just dropped $500 on a pile of junk. I guess you could use it as a placemat that changes images as you eat your dinner?

Like others have said, remove flash from your computer, see how well that works out for you. If you honestly don't need it, then maybe this fancy placemat really is for you.

I think the designers at Apple hate any kind of openings or seams. Setting up my brothers iphone *shudder* you have to use a pin to pop open a tiny tray for the card, and apart from that and the typical ipod connection at the bottom the thing is once seamless hunk of plastic and metal.

Which is also part of making it impossible to open and therefore repair when, like every other i* product, it outlives is designed 1-2 year lifespan. (I can't find the exact quote but that was stated by Apple at some kinda press conference, i* products are only intended to last 1-2 years).

And that makes it different than 95% of today's "disposable" electronics, how?

'scuse me, I'm gonna go listen to some tunes now on my five-year-old iPod Mini, which is still working just fine, thank you (especially after replacing the 6GB microdrive with a 16GB CF card :D)

I still don't understand the $500 arguement. Ronin has a point: this thing is cheap, and compared to the other purchases and items being bought, especially by the members of this board. Other than not buying it because it doesn't fit your needs, i don't see any arguement that really highlights why, at $500, this thing is expensive.

All this arguing about Flash reminds me of arguing about Push e-mail when the iPhone came out vs the Blackberry.

Funny thing, lack of push, multitasking and a slew of other things didn't seem to affect the success of the iPhone, did it?

All you experts should go start your own tech companies and we'll expect you to come back here next year with the "next big thing" driving your new Veyron you bought with all the billions you've made. :rolleyes:


I'm a PC guy and don't like MACs. But Apple knows how to make "gadgets" that people want to buy, which means they'll sell millions of these things. And website developers will see that market. They can scoff at the lack of support for Flash and have their websites look like shit on iPads, or they can develop iPad versions of their sites that take advantage of the iPad and try to capture that market.

They already have mobile versions of sites for phones. Only an idiot would think that developers won't be scrambling to make iPad versions of their sites. Look at the NY Times reader they demoed as an example.

Smart companies will develop for the iPad to make money. Stubborn idiots will ignore the iPad because it doesn't have Flash, and lose out on a potentially huge market.

^ I think it's more what you're getting for that $500 when compared to what other products are/will be available in this category.

Well then you have a rare ipod, all my friends mini's are dead (even the ones that were babied). Considering I've repaired cell phones, MP3 players, PSPs, DS/DS Lites and a whole pile of other stuff, the inability to repair i* products is pretty lame. Although, a good number of the latest waves of stuff have been killed by itunes updates and firmware upgrades, so I guess being able to open it doesn't matter so much.

How do you know what you'll be getting for your $500? The iPad itself is worth nothing without woftware, apps and things that run on it. If these appear and are useful, then the iPad will be worth far more than $500.

Arguing about something that hasn't been released, and without any knowledge of how developers are going to react to it, is pointless.

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We may not be sure of what the iPad can offer, but we do know what can be done for $500, right now. The 'benefits' touted by iPad don't make it worth it's price tag.

^^ And you've tried one and know this for sure? You've also tried all the apps on it and decided they're useless and don't do anything that other devices do?

Comparing "specs & features" is pointless. It's the software and how people take advantage of it that will determine if the iPad is junk or something very useful.

Money. Every time someone loses an adapter they will have to buy a new one from apple. Look at there charging cable for the Iphone it uses a custom plug to connect to the phone. They could have used a micro usb connector but that would mean people would be buying replacement cables from NCIX for $5 instead of Apple for $19.

i think its more that having a camera is industry standard. like automatic windows on a car. sure some cars dont have them, but then you dont ever call those cars 'good'.

if im buying a new car that i want to consider good, it better have at LEAST abs and some auto windows, not even considering and premium options. and if im buying a phone or a computer, it should have at LEAST a 3 or 1.3 megapixel camera respectively. regardless of whether i will ever use it or care about it.

The apps will be the same as the imolest/icantcallanyone, it uses the same firmeware no? And most of those apps are gimicky junk anyways. But now you can run them on a bigger screen that they weren't designed to run on (ie pixelation, no?)

you can have 10,000 apps for all i care but being able not to multitask and operate multiple programs is a step back in technology.

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Even in 94 nuns wanted multitasking.
couldn't find the eng ver.

The iFART app and the iGUN app is going to be dope on this huge iphone

There never was an "English" version, that's why the subtitles.

But hey, my PII server running Warp 4 still multitasks circles around any Windoze machine... people have learned to live without true preemptive multitasking and a fully object-oriented desktop and M$ has made zillions selling them a half-assed OS... why should Apple be any different?

Most Windows apps are junk too. There's always 100 useless poorly written programs for every really good one on any platform.

It was mentioned that many websites make poor use of Flash and are nothing more than resource hogs. Does that make Flash bad? No, it means the developers are bad. Same thing with the App Store - there are lots of crappy developers looking to make a quick buck flogging their shitty apps. There are also really good developers who create top-quality apps.

Case in point, a guy at work owns a boat (a real boat) and he bought an iPhone (bought, not signed up and got one free) and an app for navigation with all the charts for the BC coast and Vancouver Island. All for less than half the usual $1,000 and up prices of other commercially available systems. And the accuracy of the iPhone version was just as good (he tested it against a friends system).

I'd like you to tell him that the iPhone and app store is full of useless junk. :rolleyes:


And your comment about "pixellation" causes me to lose credibility in anything you say. C'mon, you might as well say that running Windows on a 30" display will make all my Windows programs and icons get "pixellated" because of the much higher resolution. Do you have any idea how software is written and how windows and other items are rendered on a display device? No, I guess not.