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MarkyMark 02-21-2010 10:08 PM

Yeah well with brodeur who knows if we will even get to a shootout lol, either way if Canada loses people will be like "oh luongo would have won it for us" or "brodeur would have won that shootout for us"...winning is the only option
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The Hype 02-21-2010 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkyMark (Post 6826514)
If they win with luongo against Germany and put brodeur back in net for Russia I'm going to be pretty pissed. Brodeur had his chance and as luongo doesn't play like shit vs Germany he should get to play the rest of the way.
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Typical Canucks fans...

What would the benefit be of having Luongo in net after Germany, if they even decide to start him? Brodeur did have his chance and aside from a couple boneheaded moves, he kept Canada in the game. I love how people are glossing over the big saves he came up with. Not to mention, that against the Swiss and now the American's Canada has faced a red hot goalie (Hiller, and Miller). Brodeur has been in net for the tough games and is battle tested, and if Luongo plays against Germany and wins, big deal. 2 wins against 2 subpar teams, and then he gets to face a tough opponent in Russia? He won't be prepared. You Luongo homers need to relax.

Where was Iginla? 4th line again. Better yet, where were Marleau and Thornton? Doing what they always do, disappearing in big games. Pronger and Niedermayer didn't look good either, or Doughty for that matter. These guys really have to step it up, and playing Germany is the chance to do it.

jackmeister 02-21-2010 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Hype (Post 6826535)
Typical Canucks fans...

What would the benefit be of having Luongo in net after Germany, if they even decide to start him? Brodeur did have his chance and aside from a couple boneheaded moves, he kept Canada in the game. I love how people are glossing over the big saves he came up with. Not to mention, that against the Swiss and now the American's Canada has faced a red hot goalie (Hiller, and Miller). Brodeur has been in net for the tough games and is battle tested, and if Luongo plays against Germany and wins, big deal. 2 wins against 2 subpar teams, and then he gets to face a tough opponent in Russia? He won't be prepared. You Luongo homers need to relax.

Where was Iginla? 4th line again. Better yet, where were Marleau and Thornton? Doing what they always do, disappearing in big games. Pronger and Niedermayer didn't look good either, or Doughty for that matter. These guys really have to step it up, and playing Germany is the chance to do it.

Honestly those boneheaded plays cost us 2-3 goals (baseball + wild pokecheck + empty net). Yes he made some spectacular saves, but if you put Luongo or Fleury in net it MIGHT have been better. This is the Olympics, not the Playoffs, every game from now on is game 7, no time to practice stick handling.

jackmeister 02-21-2010 10:26 PM

I bet the gold medal game probably lost quite some value since everyone was wishing for CAN vs RUS in the finals.

Lude S 02-21-2010 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jackmeister (Post 6826556)
Honestly those boneheaded plays cost us 2-3 goals (baseball + wild pokecheck + empty net). Yes he made some spectacular saves, but if you put Luongo or Fleury in net it MIGHT have been better. This is the Olympics, not the Playoffs, every game from now on is game 7, no time to practice stick handling.

yeah, thats why u dont start Lu. He will crap the bed when u need him most, remember last year?:haha::haha:

goo3 02-21-2010 10:34 PM

not gonna win shit when USA can score 4 goals on 22 shots. Two of those were gifts.

We would have won this game if Marty played goal instead of leaving the net wide open. That just makes it too easy for the other team.

Hondaracer 02-21-2010 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Hype (Post 6826535)
Typical Canucks fans...

What would the benefit be of having Luongo in net after Germany, if they even decide to start him? Brodeur did have his chance and aside from a couple boneheaded moves, he kept Canada in the game. I love how people are glossing over the big saves he came up with. Not to mention, that against the Swiss and now the American's Canada has faced a red hot goalie (Hiller, and Miller). Brodeur has been in net for the tough games and is battle tested, and if Luongo plays against Germany and wins, big deal. 2 wins against 2 subpar teams, and then he gets to face a tough opponent in Russia? He won't be prepared. You Luongo homers need to relax.

Where was Iginla? 4th line again. Better yet, where were Marleau and Thornton? Doing what they always do, disappearing in big games. Pronger and Niedermayer didn't look good either, or Doughty for that matter. These guys really have to step it up, and playing Germany is the chance to do it.

so put a goalie who was clearly flustered by forechecking and cannot stop that 3rd/4th chance against a team with much more offensive firepower hmm.. sounds like a plan to me

imo fuck Brodeur he was trying to play outside of himself tonight and stupid mistakes trying to be mr.wonderfull are going to cost us another game if he does what he did tonight

goo3 02-21-2010 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lude S (Post 6826566)
yeah, thats why u dont start Lu. He will crap the bed when u need him most, remember last year?:haha::haha:

Marty crapped the bed in a pretty big game, remember 2 hrs ago?

PiuYi 02-21-2010 10:38 PM

brodeur wasn't spectacular, but i think most of the blame is on our defence
they kept putting bodies in front of brodeur blocking his view and our defence wasn't physical enough to push them out
even the best goalies can't stop shots they don't see coming

Lude S 02-21-2010 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by goo3 (Post 6826578)
Marty crapped the bed in a pretty big game, remember 2 hrs ago?

it wasnt all his fault and thats no where near as bad as what Lu can do in terms of crapping the bed.:D

MG1 02-21-2010 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rice cooker (Post 6826480)
ya, silver.


Totally. The US team is far superior in all aspects and they haven't won gold in the last two Olympics. They're out to kill Team Canada.

Oleophobic 02-21-2010 10:54 PM

I agree that our D could've been better but the bottom line is that we still would've won this game if brodeur didn't try to be a hero playing baseball or going for a sprawling poke check which left the net wide open.

Those two goals were were the reason we lost. Maybe the third one where his five-hole was huge too.

MarkyMark 02-21-2010 11:00 PM

The benefit of having a great backup is so we can use him if we need him...but yeah let's ride out Brodeur because of everything he's done in the past, clearly he won it in 2002 and he's just as solid 8 years later right? I wanted Brodeur to start this tournament over Luongo, but he's proven that he's not the hot goalie right now so why sit around hoping he's going to have a fire lit under his ass.

If they put in Luongo next just to let Brodeur play against Russia, then i'd rather them just play Brodeur both games, he needs the practice.

DanHibiki 02-21-2010 11:25 PM

What was downtown like after this game?

sas 02-21-2010 11:36 PM

I hope our top line starts performing and we find someone to compliment Crosby and Nash. Pronger just makes me nervous everytime he's on the ice.

Bobby Lou gets the start now. You can get burned in the Olympics by a hot goalie and you need one to win. Lets see what Roberto can do and if he can carry a hot streak.

I think everyone was WTF when Brodeur started to play baseball.

jackmeister 02-21-2010 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lude S (Post 6826583)
it wasnt all his fault and thats no where near as bad as what Lu can do in terms of crapping the bed.:D

never said it was all his fault, but i would think that playing baseball in one of the most important game in Canadian Hockey history on home soil is pretty boneheaded. things like these change the psychology of the team pretty fast.

i expect to see luongo next game vs germany and our defencemen lay out players like ovechkin did to jagr, and then do it to ovechkin too next game.

1exotic 02-21-2010 11:39 PM

I just watched the highlights again. If you pay attention to Brouder, he was fucking horrible in the game... no excuses... he made mistakes that I've never seen Luongo make before.

I'm not saying It was all Brouder's fault, but some of those goals were fucking pathetic... Canada overall could have played smarter.

If we lose and not play for gold becuase we decided to not play Luongo, I hope innocent American families die in the streets of Vancouver... BLOOD will be on our hands motherfucker!11 I'm fucking raging.

Lude S 02-22-2010 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 1exotic (Post 6826652)
I just watched the highlights again. If you pay attention to Brouder, he was fucking horrible in the game... no excuses... he made mistakes that I've never seen Luongo make before.

I'm not saying It was all Brouder's fault, but some of those goals were fucking pathetic... Canada overall could have played smarter.

If we lose and not play for gold becuase we decided to not play Luongo, I hope innocent American families die in the streets of Vancouver... BLOOD will be on our hands motherfucker!11 I'm fucking raging.

lol, Luongo let in much worst goals than those.

trip 02-22-2010 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jonogunn8 (Post 6826633)
What was downtown like after this game?

i was on leaving nelson/granville right after the game and one head cop radio'd out "okay guys lets spread out"

within two minutes all i saw were cops on the streets

InvisibleSoul 02-22-2010 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jonogunn8 (Post 6826633)
What was downtown like after this game?

Apparently it was a very sombre mood after the game... the crowd was in a stunned silence. No riots, but there shouldn't be... at least not until we're officially eliminated from the tournament.

Harvey Specter 02-22-2010 12:53 AM

Well Sweden lost 2 in 2006 and won the gold. We're not out of this yet, before this lost was a wake up call and we can go in and win the next 4. We have the players to do it but the question is will our goaltending be up to the task.

InvisibleSoul 02-22-2010 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jackmeister (Post 6826562)
I bet the gold medal game probably lost quite some value since everyone was wishing for CAN vs RUS in the finals.

Not necessarily... if things work out, it could possibly be even more epic now.

If Canada makes it to the final, guess who may be the potential opponent?

USA.

If Canada wins, get ready to party. If Canada loses, get ready to riot.

But yeah... long way to go before we get there.

To win the gold now, Canada will possibly need to beat the following in order:

Qualification: Germany
Quarterfinal: Russia
Semifinal: Sweden or Slovakia
Final: United States or Finland or Czech Republic

Not going to be easy, that's for sure.

InvisibleSoul 02-22-2010 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jah Gekko (Post 6826735)
Well Sweden lost 2 in 2006 and won the gold. We're not out of this yet, before this lost was a wake up call and we can go in and win the next 4. We have the players to do it but the question is will our goaltending be up to the task.

It's definitely possible... we actually had a pretty crappy round robin... losing 5-2 to Sweden, barely beating Germany 3-2, and playing to a draw against Czech.

But then we rolled in the playoffs beating Finland 2-1 in the quarterfinals, then Belarus (LoL) 7-1 in the semifinals, and finally the US 5-2 in the finals.

InvisibleSoul 02-22-2010 01:00 AM

Babcock should bench Rafalski back on the Red Wings for what he did to us. :lol

orange7 02-22-2010 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jah Gekko (Post 6826735)
Well Sweden lost 2 in 2006 and won the gold. We're not out of this yet, before this lost was a wake up call and we can go in and win the next 4. We have the players to do it but the question is will our goaltending be up to the task.

IMO, brodeur is slightly better than Lu when they are both in god-like mode. But when brodeur is not in the zone, he's worst than the Lu in average mode.

If I were babcock, i'd have switched to lu after brodeur let in 2 goals in 5 shots.


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