Slifer the answer is no. It is garbage. Even if you got it cheap (like under $5) it still isn't worth taking.

My advice is, if you have the body type that allows you to take a TON of sugar every day with no consequences, then go ahead and finish the bottle quick. If you are overweight at all, or watching your diet, throw it away or give it to some pinner you know

slifer, whats the ingred list? As long as it have creatine monohydrate.. take it. also, doesnt matter if your old or new to working out, taking creatine will help

It's pure sugar with some creatine and other random nonsense added to it.

Yeah its got creatine monohydrate/phosphate. 2510mg per serving apparantly.

Can anyone recommend me a good gainer I can buy locally?

Gainers are not the best ^^^^
Most ppl are going to tell u they suck, and they do

What would you recommend?

Food

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dont waste ur money on weight gainers, they are expensive as fck. Like everyone said eat more food. Eat oakmeal and cashews or anythin tat is a type of nut, if your lookin to bulk,

drink milk, easy way to get your calories in. eat mcdonalds if you are thin as shit (srs). a double cheese perfect macros for bulking

Hey guys, I've been cycling the EC Stack since January and have gotten extraordinary results. Lost approx 25 lbs since the beginning of the year. (I was at 165lbs at 5'5", now I'm at 140ish) I still have a bit of flab I'd like to get rid of and have the abs poke out a bit more. Looking to get more lean by summer as well as continue to live a healthier lifestyle. Any other supplements I can take to help me reach my goal?

Currently taking:

ON Multivitamins
EC Stack (Cycled of course)
NOW Green Tea Extract
Allmax Omega-3
ON Whey Protein Isolate

I'm looking into BCAA's & ZMA's. Any input on adding these two supplements to what I'm already taking?

Trolling? :suspicious:

4months of ec stack that is a while man

if you aren't getting enough zinc or magnesium from your diet go ahead, and buying separate zinc/mag caps are cheaper too

don't know much about bcaa's

Not consecutively. I just finished my 2nd cycle this week. I break for 3 weeks in between.

I've just read BCAA's help speed up the process of healing and giving you a boost in gains.

what is your current diet like ^^^^
plays a big role in dieting and getting lean

Trying to shred the last 5 lbs seems to be the hardest. I have a daily eating routine Mon-fri due to work.
Breakfast is usually a bowl cereal w/milk.
First coffee break would be a granola bar or a fruit (banana/apple)
Lunch, I usually pack whatever my mom makes the night before but with careful portioning. Usually consists of a meat dish w/ brown rice and the occasional green veggies.
After work: Another small snack just to fill the stomach up a bit
Preworkout protein shake then go workout. Postworkout protein shake.
Dinner, like I said usually what my mother makes. She understands I'm trying to be healthy so she doesn't really load on the greasy stuff.

Due to late nights and late mornings I probably eat only twice a day. And usually one of them is eating out..

I avoid anything white. (Potatoes, bread, white rice) Only thing I drink is water & lots of it. And milk in the morning/night.

I never had a sweet tooth before, but lately I've had huge cravings for chocolate/candy. I was a snack fiend before. Chips, fried snacks, anything salty I would munch before bed, which gave me my gut. I just want to get rid of that extra 2 inch flab!!

i think when cutting you should have low cal low carb high protein foods, rather than cereal, granola bars etc, correct me if I'm wrong

tuna, cottage cheese, greek yogourt, are great

Beta alanine and craze arrived today

Should i start taking 4g of beta alanine twice daily?

Maybe try those calorie calculators and base your diet off that.

o1flipkid - How long have you been working to cut the 5 lbs? And what does your workout consist of?

I've been planning to get at these for a while now. But I've been making excuses not to get them. Will definitely buy some this weekend.

Just about a month. Maybe I'm not giving it enough time and I'm just trying to rush it. I know that it does take time.

I aim to workout 6 days a week. But since you know, "shit happens" it usually gets cut down to 4-5 a week.
Currently doing The Spartacus workout found on menshealth 3 times a week.
Then on days in between I have an arms/chest/abs routine.

Someone take flipkid under their wing :)

1 scoop of craze..

wow you're out of this world, you don't worry about anything, and you have a complete tunnel vision

noticed heart beating way faster and time seems to tick away very slowly


wonder what this + piracetam will do to me

hope i don't die