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StylinRed 06-16-2012 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by spyker (Post 7949225)
No he'll have to do minimum half the time he got sentenced with before he is even eligible for parole,that's if he behaves himself inside.

There is no such thing as only doing a month in jail if you get sentenced to 17 months.If that's the case,the guy that got a month in jail for his sentence,he only has to do 48 hours and he's out?

Parole Board of Canada (PBC)- Types of release

re: day parole; re: uta


doesn't mean he'll get out but he's eligible

Presto 06-20-2012 01:55 PM

Spoiler!


I just had a look through the list. Where's Nathan Kotylak?

Alatar 06-20-2012 04:53 PM

He was a youth when the riots took place. Count him among the "16 youths"

dru 06-20-2012 09:51 PM

Crown wants 2 month jail sentence for Camille Cacnio

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The sentencing hearing for a UBC student who admitted her role in last year's Stanley Cup riot, has been postponed.

But it appears the Crown wants Camille Cacnio to spend some time behind bars.

She was caught on camera stealing a pair of men's tuxedo pants, and was soon fired from her job at Burrard Acura.

Then her online apology was criticized because many felt she was making excuses.

Now, CKNW has learned the Crown wants one of the most recognizable rioters to spend 2-months in jail.

21-year-old Cacnio pleaded guilty to participating in a riot-and-break and enter.

Earlier this month, 20-year-old Emmanuel Alviar was given a 1-month sentence for his role in the riot, which lasted over several hours.

Crown wanted him to go to jail for four months.
Source: Local News Story

MG1 06-21-2012 06:03 AM

^I don't know......... part of me says, good, but part of me says, it's a little harsh for a girl who isn't a hard core criminal. I kind of feel sorry for her. Community service time? I think she has learned her lesson. No need to completely destroy her life. Just my opinion.

The courts should make an example of some of the others who have a history of being drunken, disorderly hoodlums. What about that jerkface who rioted at the Vancouver Olympics? Obiki or whatever he calls himself. That guy should be neutered and raped multiple times in prison.

MR_BIGGS 06-21-2012 06:43 AM

Blind justice. Do the crime do the time. I don't think you should handpick leniency based on her being female and not having a prior record. I know that sounds harsh and we should look to restorative justice, but there has to be a precedent.

I don't buy this "got caught up" in the moment nonesense. If I was there, I would have felt so embarrassed that people were doing this. You give people an inch (public squares to watch games outside) they take a mile (being drunk in public and rioting).

yogenfruz 06-21-2012 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MR_BIGGS (Post 7953814)
Blind justice. Do the crime do the time. I don't think you should handpick leniency based on her being female and not having a prior record. I know that sounds harsh and we should look to restorative justice, but there has to be a precedent.

I don't buy this "got caught up" in the moment nonesense. If I was there, I would have felt so embarrassed that people were doing this. You give people an inch (public squares to watch games outside) they take a mile (being drunk in public and rioting).

I know what you mean by being embarrassed. I had friends who were downtown that night and they left just after it started. They didn't want to even be associated with the crowd.

As for the leniency, I think any is bullshit. You broke shit or stole from broken shops? You should be getting the allotted time anyone else would be given.

CRS 06-21-2012 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MG1 (Post 7953805)
^I don't know......... part of me says, good, but part of me says, it's a little harsh for a girl who isn't a hard core criminal. I kind of feel sorry for her. Community service time? I think she has learned her lesson. No need to completely destroy her life. Just my opinion.

The courts should make an example of some of the others who have a history of being drunken, disorderly hoodlums. What about that jerkface who rioted at the Vancouver Olympics? Obiki or whatever he calls himself. That guy should be neutered and raped multiple times in prison.

I thought about this too but then again, I just re-read her original apology and how it was filled with excuses and qualifiers.

Blazing Cat Fur: The Amazing Unedited Apology Of Vancouver Rioter Camille Cacnio

static 06-21-2012 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dru (Post 7953578)
Crown wants 2 month jail sentence for Camille Cacnio

Source: Local News Story

I wonder if she would have had a lesser sentence if she had pleaded not guilty and gone to trial.

Energy 06-21-2012 03:18 PM

Doubtful because of all the evidence. She would probably get a tougher sentence if she pleaded not guilty.

MG1 06-21-2012 05:04 PM

Then make her pay - dollars.

Prison time doesn't solve anything. Leave that for murderers, rapists, child molesters, and wife beaters.


Being in prison costs taxpayers money.......... have her work at Habitat for Humanity, the Sally Ann, clean up the streets, whatever..........

Energy 06-21-2012 05:19 PM

It does. Jail time is a deterrent that signals to people that what the rioters did is contrary to what society wants. If she is given a slap on the wrist then people won't truly be scared of rioting because they know the consequences aren't that bad.

It's telling people that if you don't want to go to jail don't riot.

Ronin 06-21-2012 08:00 PM

Riot and you have to pay $100,000 sounds pretty good to me.

But then again, 2 months of some real prison sounds pretty good too. I don't know how scary Canadian jail is but it probably isn't friendly.

Gridlock 06-21-2012 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 7954556)
Riot and you have to pay $100,000 sounds pretty good to me.

But then again, 2 months of some real prison sounds pretty good too. I don't know how scary Canadian jail is but it probably isn't friendly.

Yeah, and I'm sure doubly so for a girl that tried to save the trees that night.

Energy 06-21-2012 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 7954556)
Riot and you have to pay $100,000 sounds pretty good to me.

But then again, 2 months of some real prison sounds pretty good too. I don't know how scary Canadian jail is but it probably isn't friendly.

What this says is that rich people can do what they want... Not very fair to everyone. Jail time is the equalizer.

LSF22 07-03-2012 08:37 PM

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A man caught on tape during the Stanley Cup riot will not serve any time in jail.

Read it on Global News: Global BC | Stanley Cup rioter caught on tape avoids jail time
Global BC | Stanley Cup rioter caught on tape avoids jail time

tonyzoomzoom 07-03-2012 09:09 PM

disappointed in the light sentence

Gridlock 07-03-2012 09:30 PM

Anyone know what the difference was in his case? Underage at the time or something?

melloman 07-04-2012 07:01 AM

:bullshit:

Vale46Rossi 07-04-2012 01:17 PM

Canada-wide warrant issued for suspected rioter from Seattle



The guy from seattle =P

Acura604 09-07-2012 11:30 AM

Camille's fate: 'no jail time'

No jail time for Stanley Cup rioter - News1130

VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A UBC graduate who looted during the Stanley Cup riot has been sentenced, but will not serve any jail time.

Camille Cacnio of Richmond stole two pairs of size 42 men's tuxedo pants and a tie during the riot. The 23-year-old has been given two years of probation and will have to abide by a one-year curfew. She will also have to complete 150 hours of community service.

The judge in the case ruled Cacnios' limited participation and public vilification by the news media and social media have had a greater punishing effect.

Cacnio wrote a blog explaining her actions in the days after the riot. But in light of more negative reaction, she replaced it with an apology.

The court heard she was harassed at her UBC classes by other students. She's been fired from a total of three jobs.

Crown had been asking for 15 to 30 days to be served in jail on weekends while the defence sought a conditional discharge.

Energy 09-07-2012 11:40 AM

I think that that sentence is fair. She's had enough punishment and I'm sure she's learned her lesson.

Ronin 09-07-2012 12:15 PM

Yeah, I'm okay with that decision. Month in jail would've been a cherry on top but it's a fair deal.

StylinRed 09-07-2012 02:24 PM

was just going to post



in all honesty that sentence is rather steep/harsh for what someone would typically get
not to mention she's already been vilified by her own community and lost her job etc etc

N8 09-07-2012 02:38 PM

^ agreed, no reason for her to have to be in jail. she didn't assault anyone and she has already gotten enough punishment.


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