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Old Yesterday, 07:50 AM   #28701
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It’s definitely not relative. 15% on a 60k mortgage with a 40k income is a lot less difficult than a 4% mortgage on 600k with 80k income.
Still, good for them for being successful back then with little resources but nothing is close today for someone starting from scratch, or even with a leg up compared to then.
Yeah this is the part the boomers love to leave out. Ok sure, your interest rate was 15-20% but on what amount? lol. Not even close to today's prices to income ratio.
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From someone on reddit who did the math, FWIW. Obviously, details can vary with price of home, how much a person makes (single/married/how many kids), how much down, etc. Anyhow, you can create a scenario, plug in numbers and show me how it is so much different today than it was in the 80's.

Average price 1980 of single detached = $180,000, in 2023 = $1,956,000 (looking primarily at the Hotspot of Vancouver)

Interest high 1981 = 19.29%. If entire cost is mortgage, it works out to roughly $2917/mth at 25y amortization. Average family income is 30K, so 12x2917 / 30K = 116% or so going to home

Let's look at 2023. Interest now is 6.04. Lets buy a steal of a property at 1.5M. The payment is now $9701, same amortization. Average family income is 110k. 12x9701 / 110k = 105% of income going to home.
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so we are better off then!? NICE! fuck you boomers!
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We discovered the entire outlet mall was full of brown people. like literally 90%. All the staff in stores were brown, all the shoppers were brown. Is there some sort of a festival going on that requires them all to shop? ive never seen it like this. Im glad to see people spending money, although it looks like most of them were just walking around and not buying anything, but this was nuts. literally looked like a city in india.
To be fair.. this is what people were saying about Chinese people about 10-15 years ago hahaha
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From someone on reddit who did the math, FWIW. Obviously, details can vary with price of home, how much a person makes (single/married/how many kids), how much down, etc. Anyhow, you can create a scenario, plug in numbers and show me how it is so much different today than it was in the 80's.

Average price 1980 of single detached = $180,000, in 2023 = $1,956,000 (looking primarily at the Hotspot of Vancouver)

Interest high 1981 = 19.29%. If entire cost is mortgage, it works out to roughly $2917/mth at 25y amortization. Average family income is 30K, so 12x2917 / 30K = 116% or so going to home

Let's look at 2023. Interest now is 6.04. Lets buy a steal of a property at 1.5M. The payment is now $9701, same amortization. Average family income is 110k. 12x9701 / 110k = 105% of income going to home.
What relevance does math for a situation that doesn’t exist provide. 100% of your home is mortgage? You can save up to buy that house cash in 8 years lol.
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Just came back from Italy for the first time.

After using bidets in Asia, it took me a while to realize what it was and then I had to Google how it worked. Thought it was a urinal or foot wash at first.

Apparently you sit your bare ass cheeks on it and wash your ass with soap and your hands. Women will sit on it the other way around and wash their vag.

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yeah this shit never made sense to me.
even SE asia has the bum gun although sharing that thing is pretty gross.
proper bidet is the only way for me... even the cheap cold water ones.
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911s have gotten so expensive that an AMG GT63 coupe looks like a bargain in comparison.
But the AMG will probably throw a CEL after doing 2 - 3 hot laps, probably because the engine overheated, whereas the squashed beetle will be happy to do this all day long.
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^will it!? or will it bore score and fail later down the road. Cant trust the guys who helped hitler design the original beetle man.
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Just came back from Italy for the first time.

After using bidets in Asia, it took me a while to realize what it was and then I had to Google how it worked. Thought it was a urinal or foot wash at first.

Apparently you sit your bare ass cheeks on it and wash your ass with soap and your hands. Women will sit on it the other way around and wash their vag.

You'd think in 2025, we'd have come up with better ergonomics for something like that. It doesn't look even remotely comfortable to sit on / straddle something like that. Not to mention the ice-cold bare porcelain :/.

Also where's the soap and hand towels if that's really what it's for?! Are you trolling me?!

You must be lying. Next time I go to Italy I'm going to use it to brush my teeth.
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yeah that makes no sense. you wash your ass with your bare hands, then the next person comes by, sits on your ass juice bidet, and does the same!?

disgusting... like white peoples dirty ass feet.
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You'd think in 2025, we'd have come up with better ergonomics for something like that. It doesn't look even remotely comfortable to sit on / straddle something like that. Not to mention the ice-cold bare porcelain :/.

Also where's the soap and hand towels if that's really what it's for?! Are you trolling me?!

You must be lying. Next time I go to Italy I'm going to use it to brush my teeth.
I have never understood this system. Once you wash, how do you dry yourself off? Is there conveniently a towel there for every guest? Ugh!
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Yeah this is the part the boomers love to leave out. Ok sure, your interest rate was 15-20% but on what amount? lol. Not even close to today's prices to income ratio.
My boomer uncles that are educated in Canada are pretty woke.

Last time I had dinner when they visited, they said they made $28-34K out of graduation in the 80's and by the time they got their MBA's in late 80's, they were making close to mid 100's total comp.

They own law practices / director at AC/WJ or big tech now. Their $500K house in Calgary from 2003 is still around $600K though lol
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It's only been in recent years with the huge influx of people from the east and west coast that are driving housing prices up in Calgary so that makes sense.
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My boomer uncles that are educated in Canada are pretty woke.

Last time I had dinner when they visited, they said they made $28-34K out of graduation in the 80's and by the time they got their MBA's in late 80's, they were making close to mid 100's total comp.

They own law practices / director at AC/WJ or big tech now. Their $500K house in Calgary from 2003 is still around $600K though lol
Mid 100s total comp = 400-600k?! Or 140-160k? I guess either way that's super crazy for the '80s lol.
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My cousin and his family just came back from a Banff/Canmore trip.
When he got back to Los Angeles, he messaged me, "Holy shit, I want to become Canadian after seeing Banff!"

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Banff is indeed beautiful though lol. I just never appreciated it as a kid.
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But the AMG will probably throw a CEL after doing 2 - 3 hot laps, probably because the engine overheated, whereas the squashed beetle will be happy to do this all day long.
Ha, true.

https://www.autotrader.ca/offers/mer...oost_level=b1n

Here's a new AMG GT55 coupe for $157k off the lot - lightly equipped without any requirement to load it up with options to buy it. $157k is where a base 992 starts before you get bent over with options.

I do prefer this heavily equipped GT55 ($193k) though - that colour is a beaut:

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My boomer uncles that are educated in Canada are pretty woke.

Last time I had dinner when they visited, they said they made $28-34K out of graduation in the 80's and by the time they got their MBA's in late 80's, they were making close to mid 100's total comp.

They own law practices / director at AC/WJ or big tech now. Their $500K house in Calgary from 2003 is still around $600K though lol
How much was a MBA in the late 80s? I've been looking into this recently, mostly as an excuse to leave Canada but holy shit its expensive LMAO
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How much was a MBA in the late 80s? I've been looking into this recently, mostly as an excuse to leave Canada but holy shit its expensive LMAO
A lot cheaper back then than they are now, that's for sure. Don't ask me how I know.
Edit: You can dig into the numbers provided by Stats Canada here.

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They made a reality tv show about the Coquihalla Hwy LOL

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Bro where you been, that stuff was on TV in the early 00s lol

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Apparently this first episode was September 2012.. no wonder all the truckers are white
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You'd think in 2025, we'd have come up with better ergonomics for something like that. It doesn't look even remotely comfortable to sit on / straddle something like that. Not to mention the ice-cold bare porcelain :/.

Also where's the soap and hand towels if that's really what it's for?! Are you trolling me?!

You must be lying. Next time I go to Italy I'm going to use it to brush my teeth.
There's already a giant toothbrush right there next to it
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