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Old 12-17-2011, 07:29 PM   #1
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If America doesn't elect Ron Paul, their country is DOOMED

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Everybody knows he cant win give it up already.
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Ron Paul???

If it is a long primary season do think Ron Paul hill be able to handle it? He is already working a lot less than the others.

Also many of his ideas are crazy.
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So what he still can't win the primary.
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Actually i'm sorry to say but no one takes as many vacation days as Obama.
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Ron Paul???

If it is a long primary season do think Ron Paul hill be able to handle it? He is already working a lot less than the others.

Also many of his ideas are crazy.
His ideas are based on the constitution, and I think America did pretty well for themselves for a few hundred years...

The less government intervention on peoples' lives, the better, IMO. I don't see what's crazy about that, unless you are a lazy useless sack of shit. In that case, welfare and health care are pretty important!
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If they don't want him in Washington, we could use a dose of his handy work right here in BC.

Hook him up with a little retirement home somewhere with an ocean view,and he can kick the shit out of our douche politicians that practically want to wipe my ass in case I don't get it done quite right.
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Actually i'm sorry to say but no one takes as many vacation days as Obama.


Any facts to back that up??? or are you just pulling crap out of your ass. I believe it's crap out of your ass.
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Remember guys Ron Paul can get you a Gallon of gas for a nickle.

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The guy wont last a long primary and a general election and he even knows that.
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Actually i'm sorry to say but no one takes as many vacation days as Obama.
Hi! In 2 seconds I was able to just pull this up...

—Prior to his current Martha’s Vineyard trip, Obama had taken 10 vacations of varying lengths — spanning all or part of 61 days.

—At the same point in George W. Bush’s presidency, he had made 26 visits to his Texas ranch spanning all or part of 180 days.

—At the same point in Bill Clinton’s presidency, he had taken two vacations on Martha’s Vineyard spanning 26 days and was starting a 21-day stay in Jackson Hole, Wyo.

Comparing-Obama

Now, they say that they don't include Camp David in these counts, so feel free to find a record that he lives there.

Any other enlightening facts you've got stuffed up there?

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Fox News Claims that Obama is on Vacation More than George W. Bush
Thinking Back to When Presidential Vacations Were Bad… - By Jim Geraghty - The Campaign Spot - National Review Online
President Bush And Reagan Used Far More Vacation Days Than President Obama « CAFFEINATED POLITICS

I don't like Obama and his policies-but lets use the truth. We're not Fox!
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This country is going down the shitter.. fast...
I agree that Ron Paul is the answer (I think... ) but I thought Obama was the answer a few years ago too...

He does seem to have sincerity in him.. I will vote for him, but I won't expect much..

I hope he wins, but I doubt he will..
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Doesn't matter to me if Obama or Ron Paul is president next term. Some of the other candidates however... Terrifying.
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the short end of it is, it doesn't matter who wins what or who the next president is unfortunately. The hole is way to deep for anyone to fix.

The USA will need a reset. Something at some point in time has to give and when it does it will be devastating to the world and its economy.
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it's going to be 2012

every country goin' be doomed cause of US

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I can't vote, but I'd be rooting for him nonetheless. I've been keeping up with this pretty much since day one.
Studying politics, you learn to predict all sorts of sleaziness you'd never even imagine. But like The7even said, he does have the hint of sincerity in him you don't often find in presidential candidates (especially since a few months down the campaign, everything becomes an obvious facade).

If I had the opportunity to vote, I'd cast my vote for him, not because of what people think he'll do or what he promises to do, but because he's able-minded--which couldn't be said for many leadership roles in democratic states. I mean, what more can you ask for in a democracy?
I wouldn't vote for him because he is the "answer". Everyone tells you he's the answer, but who honestly can wrap their head around one person being able to saddle a country with 15 trillion dollars worth of debt on his back?
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Remember guys Ron Paul can get you a Gallon of gas for a nickle.

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The guy wont last a long primary and a general election and he even knows that.
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Thanks for the correction. At the current time tho he should have the least vacation days taken for how much trouble we are in. Thats obviously not the case.
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Hi! In 2 seconds I was able to just pull this up...

—Prior to his current Martha’s Vineyard trip, Obama had taken 10 vacations of varying lengths — spanning all or part of 61 days.

—At the same point in George W. Bush’s presidency, he had made 26 visits to his Texas ranch spanning all or part of 180 days.

—At the same point in Bill Clinton’s presidency, he had taken two vacations on Martha’s Vineyard spanning 26 days and was starting a 21-day stay in Jackson Hole, Wyo.

Comparing-Obama

Now, they say that they don't include Camp David in these counts, so feel free to find a record that he lives there.

Any other enlightening facts you've got stuffed up there?

Oh...I have time to spare, so:

Fox News Claims that Obama is on Vacation More than George W. Bush
Thinking Back to When Presidential Vacations Were Bad… - By Jim Geraghty - The Campaign Spot - National Review Online
President Bush And Reagan Used Far More Vacation Days Than President Obama « CAFFEINATED POLITICS

I don't like Obama and his policies-but lets use the truth. We're not Fox!
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One of the other problems is Congress. Congress is funded by corporations, and candidates are too afraid to do anything cause they would lose their funding. Once corporations stop giving you funding, your campaign basically is done.
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One of the other problems is Congress. Congress is funded by corporations, and candidates are too afraid to do anything cause they would lose their funding. Once corporations stop giving you funding, your campaign basically is done.
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It actually doesn't matter who is president, like it doesn't matter who is mayor. The president is just one vote, the deciding vote, yet the last vote. Congress needs to be reformed first before Ron Paul could make any difference.
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I can't stand the author of this article, and I had to check 4 times while reading it to make sure it said who I thought it did.

Palin: Congress, stop lining your pockets

This decribes how congress has been bought and paid for years ago.

Here is the problem facing the United States right now. You could put Ron Paul in the white house, or Bachmann or anyone you want, and they can't do a damned thing to advance their agenda because if a republican is in the WH, then the Democrats will do anything to stop them while the R's cry foul. Then, the D's get their turn, the R's do the same thing, and the Dem's cry foul.

Short story. She's fucked.
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Ron Paul wont win because he doesn't want a special relationship with Israel or the Jewish lobby.
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I've kinda been following this (embarrassingly more than our own politics) and from what I gather from various sources it's impossible for Ron Paul to win. Not because of ACTUAL PEOPLE VOTES but because of Vote Tampering. Yes folks it's true and been proven that vote tampering is a FACT in the United States. Ron Paul's views and outlook on the United States Government is exactly why he will get the Popular Vote from the people but will lose the election because the Corporations backing the United States War Machine will never let that happen.

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I've been following Ron Paul for a while....hes become some kinda superhero on many internet forums amongst young people. I don't know why he's a conservative but his views seem very liberal to me.

He speaks the simple truth. Live and let live.
America has to stop playing big brother in everyone business.
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I've been following Ron Paul for a while....hes become some kinda superhero on many internet forums amongst young people. I don't know why he's a conservative but his views seem very liberal to me.

He speaks the simple truth. Live and let live.
America has to stop playing big brother in everyone business.
Ron Paul is a Libertarian.

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