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Old 01-03-2012, 07:25 PM   #201
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santorum is a prick, pretty upset about the results
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Primaries - Exit/Entrance Polls - Election Center 2012 - Elections & Politics from CNN.com

Born-Again or Evangelical Christian?

Santorum: 32% yes 13% no

Romney: 14% Yes 48% no
Some interesting figures there. The older and richer you get, the less you want to vote for Paul

Also, look at when people decided who to support... Ron Paul supporters know who they wanted. The old/rich/fundamentalist christian people are scared to vote for him.
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Rick Perry spent $476.50 per vote. 6 million for 12,592 votes.

I think last time Romney spent $1000 per vote.
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Anyone watching CNN. looks like Romney won. Looks like the state republican is having some problems but CNN got to the bottom of it.
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Rick Perry spent $476.50 per vote. 6 million for 12,592 votes.

I think last time Romney spent $1000 per vote.
Where did you get the stats? I'd like to see where they all line up dollars vs. votes received.

That's the real piss off. It's like this much(.) what you say, and like (........) how much you spend saying it.
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Where did you get the stats? I'd like to see where they all line up dollars vs. votes received.

That's the real piss off. It's like this much(.) what you say, and like (........) how much you spend saying it.
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Rick Perry Spent $6 Million In Iowa But Forgot To Do One Little Thing

Romney spend 10 million last time. They just reported that again on CNN.
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iowa is bullshit anyway. everyone is fanatically religious and its not a good representation of the rest of the US.

santorum is just the flavor of the week. his time to be the flavor of the week just happened to be during the iowa caucus.
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lol wow Santorum came out of nowhere americans are retarded... a guy who guarantees he'll bomb Iran

i was seeing cnn asking one of his supporters why she supported Santorum and she looked dazed for a few seconds and then just said "uh.. family values, because i have a family and i heard he was a family man"

an older lady was asked who she supported and she said she "loves Ron Pauls domestic policy but im afraid of his foreign policy so i wont vote for him"

and that seems to be a theme with quite a few seniors, but you would think they would side with his foreign policy views considering they likely came from the Eisenhower & then Hippie era


but ah well Ron Paul had a great showing and there's quite a few to go yet





Rick Perry paid the most in advertising but still had a non showing
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I think we may have to wait for the next generation or two to die off before America has any chance at being fixed.
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I think we may have to wait for the next generation or two to die off before America has any chance at being fixed.
Yes and no.

The problem is, everyone has forgotten the mantra of depression era survival.

Hey! this is broken!

"well, better hope I can fix it, because we can't buy a new one for 10 years"

Now its gotta have new cell phones every 18 months, because now it comes with some stupid voice that gives you sarcastic answers when you talk to it.

In the US and Canada(not as bad) no one wants to:

work

Sorry, should I put the list alphabetically?

work.

You have the bottom 40% on handouts, you have the middle class being hit left and right and you have the guys at the top that technically "work" but their pay is so far out of whack of any actually thing they produce its hard to say its "work" in the sense of "hey! I'm working building a railroad today"

No one wants to manufacture anything in the states because no one wants to work(I know, I'm painting with a broad brush-there are a class of middle class people that want to work, but not too hard because...)

Those that want to work want to be in a union so I can take a piss on my bosses desk, and still have a job, plus make $60,000 a year whether people want to buy our product or not(aka GM)

So people moaned about it, but in the last 20 years, the shipping companies of the world grew by massive percentages per year as "we" handed manufacturing off to 'don't give a fuck about climate, worker relations, our union is a communist union of everyone so work or die you insignificant 1 of 1.whatever the fuck billion of you we have here in China'.

Now:

That being said, for the most part its gone, and we're left with our parents generation.

They grew up in the prosperous post WW2 era. We are never going to be able to maintain that. For 30-40 years, the US was king. There were no other manufacturing options. Europe? Bombed out. Japan? Nuked out. China? Too busy with shitty 5 year plans and killing people

Of course the US did well! So did Canada. Some of our problems now relate to finding a new normal of the global economy where no one nation is really at an advantage over another.

So yes, generational problems exist, but not the only source. I think my fear is every new generation wants the gov't to do more, and the key is less.
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Ever watch CNN? They have drops all the time. Technical difficulty happen daily on CNN. CNN actually showed the speech live the soldier gave at Ron Paul headquarters. Ron Paul truthers are nuts.
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mainstream media does not want the guy to get elected because they are afraid of real change.
you really cant deny that, and im not talking in the context of that video.
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iowa is bullshit anyway. everyone is fanatically religious and its not a good representation of the rest of the US.

santorum is just the flavor of the week. his time to be the flavor of the week just happened to be during the iowa caucus.
The whole Caucus system is a joke.

John McCain is Endorsing Romney now.
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This is only the first primary and Ohio is big time evangelical christian. Ron Paul is done for good for ever.
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The whole Caucus system is a joke.

John McCain is Endorsing Romney now.
It's even more ridiculous because the people in that electoral conference or whatever aren't even bound by the results of these things. It's more like one giant fucking poll!
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I didn't call you a nut case I called Ron Paul one. Saying Rick Santorum is a liberal is just nuts and thats what Ran and Ron did.


Love this Ran paul quote. Saw the interview on CNN.

He voted to expand Medicare and add free drugs for senior citizens.

What? Free medicine for the elderly? Ron or Rand Paul would never allow that to happen! | Vivian McPeak - seattlepi.com

Not going to win any support from free loading seniors with comments like that.
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Like i've asked you so many times manic, since you dont approve of RP who do you approve of?
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^^ he supports obama (i like Obama too but if Americas going Republican this time around then Ron Paul FTW)


saying you'll bomb iran is nutz too

and his name is Rand... its even in the link you posted


and Ron Paul called Santorum a Liberal based on Santorum being "too liberal with money"

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Like i've asked you so many times manic, since you dont approve of RP who do you approve of?
No one in the Republican party.
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The United States is bullshit anyway. everyone is fanatically religious and its not a good representation of the rest of the US.

santorum is just the flavor of the week. his time to be the flavor of the week just happened to be during the iowa caucus.
Fixed that for you.

It's hard to come to terms with this but the US won't really last very long. The way it's being bought off into war and how all these rich fucks can literally buy off politicians.. it's going to be over soon if this isn't fixed.
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