how tf frankfurt ranked higher in "low crime" is insane lol
their train station is was worse than most of downtown vancouver

LOL Mid-Levels? Damn. Ballin.

100% agree on the transit system in Peel/York Region here in the GTA. Such a total cluster. If it weren't for Presto (another story for another day) it would be even worse than it already is!

What do they have again? MiWay (Missisauga) Brampton Transit (Brampton) and Viva (Vaughn/Richmond Hill/Markham/Newmarket/Aurora) :facepalm:

As per my signature and your quote: Yeeet lat lat lap sap

lol Frankfurt am Main. It's like the Downtown Eastside of Vancouver. :fuckthatshit:

HK Island commute complaints sounds like a rich kid problem ngl. Also if you're an islander, wtf are you doing on Kowloon side with us commoners?

Car guy life is irrelevant in HK, you wouldn't expect to have one LOL. If anything, go to China for some racing.

How tf did you get robbed on HK Island side... and was this not in the last 10 years LOL. One of our mutuals (KM from 111) who moved there for good was attesting to the significant crime reduction in HK vs Van. Tho its a Kerrisdale/Arbutus kid talking about crime that now lives in WC. OTOH, friend's parents' car in Tai Po got broken into (relatively recently too).

I'd only move for a Director role tbh, smt that rakes in HKD 100K/mo or 160K USD annually. No way, I'd take a lower QOL. Tho I imagine with your skill set that wouldn't necessarily be a hard goal to achieve in HK. WC/Central rent for a nice place (managed/serviced apt) is like 25-50K HKD/mo, I'd imagine 50-75% disposable income is pretty good even in HK.

And tbh, I think most people, like our parents and older friends, raise their families here in Vancouver and not HK. The move to HK would be similar to your previous moves to the US - to make money. Except you were supposed to come back hahaha

Tbh the problem is likely too much stakeholder involvement. For example, the pattullo bridge - City of Surrey, City of New West, and I think the province all need to be consulted on. Everyone's on board with a bridge expansion except the City of New West who doesn't want to be a pass through city.. but either way ur gonna be a commuter city. Their argument is that if theres a bridge expansion, its more traffic into New West, but countering that there's still a lot of traffic into New West it's just more fucked cause less infrastructure capability.

Contrary to this the 91/Nordel interchange constructed by the province? Absolutely fantastic. All the changes that they made actually make sense and reduce traffic bottle necks. Crazy.

Your shit is so cooked that The B1M made a video about Eglinton Crosstown hahahaha


Tbh if there's any well managed province in terms of business innovation, funding/grants, and what appears to be infrastructure projects, it would probably be Quebec lol.

Just cuz I spend a lot of time in Sheung Wan / CWB doesn't mean I don't go see relatives or experience the dope stuff in other neighbourhoods.

Same in NY, just cuz I'm in Gramercy / West Village doesn't mean I don't go to Williamsburg/Bushwick for vibes, Chinatown, or Jersey for golf.

How did you feel about grocery and restaurant prices?
The nicer stuff is priced internationally, at same monetary value as in USD.

Gyms and tennis are $$$.
Going out also more expensive.

If you can double your income, sounds like a pretty fair move.
I'd take a pay cut moving & the hit to mid-late career finance is even worse.
- Very weak exits to buy side and PE, also requires mandarin.
- IB associates are making about 40% less, 60% less in PE.

Low key the economy seems pretty dead and dependent on mainland business these days.
Most western business activity moved to Singapore, which I really dislike as a place to live.

Yes, the good ol' Eglington Crosstown. This is embarrassing

Re: HK - I understand the appeal. I really enjoyed how the city has evolved. Would I live there? Maybe, but not long term. Granted, I'm mid-life/mid-career, so my priorities are different.

Edit: What is the taxation rate for expats in HK?

I think Toronto's got more... and the only kinda reliable ones are the GO busses and TTC trains.

- TTC, which runs north of highway 7 in York
- YRT/Viva along 7, which sucks
- Go Transit for "express" busses
- MiWay
- Brampton
- DRT & the pulse busses if you're far east enough in Scarborough

Sauga's got that busway thing
Brampton's "main street" NIMBYs were the ones who blocked LRT through there.

It's been over 20 years since I visited HK (I was late-20s) and boy did I ever love it there (all the not too sweet desserts!). For an CBC who felt like they lived in two worlds (but more in the Western world) it finally felt like I found the "twin" I'd always wanted to have - I could finally live out the Chinese side of me (man, that sure sounds me saying I'm coming out).

I would have definitely lived there for a while as I was still young but there's no way I would have considered it once I got older.

But 20 years ago the place was booming with new china money, still had the energy of NYC where you could make anything happen.

Now it’s basically boomers who stayed, expats and their kids, and any of the local kids who didn’t have the money or opportunity to leave… very dead and tired feeling.

Eve my stupid cousin who got Cs in school managed to go to UNottingham.

I'm so glad I moved the eff out of TO back in the late 90's. Never looked back. Every time I go back and visit, I pinch myself and thank my lucky stars. No idea how people function there.

ive been to hk a few times, i always thought it was a fun place to visit. have friends there, went to lots of cool parties etc... i think in your 20s its like amazing especially if your friends have connections. i think the hustle culture that exists there is not for me though.. i like to live life kinda slow and not caring about what other people are doing, but when you're there you just cant help but to feel like you have to keep up with everyone else otherwise you are just wasting your life or something. i'd rather just not be around that all the time tbh.

All this talk about how amazing HK is, you don't see the third world side of a world class city. Plenty of people just scraping by making a living.

Same can be said for Vancouver/Toronto/Insert US City tho fr

i think the wealth gap is even bigger in asia any day..
they got old people living in kennels man.

Supposedly, Canada should have some much stronger safety nets compared to Hong Kong and the US though. I know for a fact that for someone being on welfare in Hong Kong, they are living a really, really hard life. Welfare support gives you around the equivalent of around Cdn $760/month, and there are very few other assistance/support measures available beyond that gov welfare payment.

Welfare payments seem to range between $750 - $900+ per month here in Canada, depending on where you are, but there are a lot more additional gov-funded support programs to cover other needs.

Even for the working poor, I'd imagine life being much harder in Hong Kong than it is here in Canada.

HK Transit is still miles better than anything in Canada. Yes it's expensive, but you're not gonna be eating steak everyday in HK. A fish burger was $14 hkd no tax, tip bs. That's $2.51 today. You can go to local joints and easily get a bowl of noodles and cold drink for less than $45 which is $8.07 you can't even get a small pho for that let alone a mcd meal. China is even cheaper maybe another 20-30% less. You can get BBT drinks for like $14 rmb which is like $3 which would be at least $9 a drink here. I was buying the expensive Uniqlo shirts in HK, there were $99 hkd $17.75 cad no tax, the same shirt here is $29.90 + tax :fulloffuck: you can't tell me rent is more expensive here than HK. So yes for boomers or fire Asia > CAD

$45?

wtf is that, prices from 10 years ago LOL

That's not even close. I am talking about who are clean and willing to work in HK and still barely able to scrape by.

If you are clean and willing to work in Canada, you won't have an amazing life, but you aren't confined to a 2 square meter box, and you have mobility.

It just tells me you saw the glorious parts of HK but not the hard parts.

Not relatable to us, we all have 1-3, $40K-100K+ sports cars, million dollar homes.

Work in skilled work, great jobs or own businesses FeelsBadMan

We are not scraping by

Imo, most 18-30 year olds would be on the streets instead of kennels in Vancouver, if we kicked them out of their parents home.

Leave the hundreds of thousands cage homes alone

Shitter fitting is not a skilled trade thank you very much

I just got back at Chongqing, Shanghai was 20-40% more

BBT - 12-20RMB, 30-50 for fancy places
Noodles - 12-40 RMB for beef noodle soup
XLB - 10-15 RMB
Breakfast egg wraps - 10-15 RMB Delivered

Fancy dimsum - $20 CAD
Haidilao - $30 CAD
AYCE Caviar, Toro, crab, shrimp, wine + 24 hour massage - $250 CAD
3 Person massage + Buffet - $60 CAD
Chang'An type of dinner - $60/pp min spend
mid to upper tier hotpot - $20-30/pp

Taxi's $6-10CAD/Hour


China is so cheap, it's nice to be able to pay for everyone's cabs, upgrade to XL for $10 a trip, pay for everyone's meal and drinks

Ends up costing $20-100 a day still :lawl:

You are right that's a world that's far from us, but being in Canada gives one the opportunity if that person is willing to work, even if they are mediocre. The safety net, at least in Canada is amazing.

All this talk about how great HK is, and how "it's the same in Vancouver/Toronto fr" shows how ignorant they are of the issues.

There are things that HK does well, such as the low income housing, but the SHEER amount of people that NEED that though is crazy.