DOUBLE Fatal accident on Lions Gate Bridge

[Lomac]

While I don't know Phil personally, I've been on here long enough to see most of his posts and you guys shouldn't be surprised at how frank and open he usually is with his comments.

To be fair to him, this is a thread about a news article talking about the accident. It didn't start out as a condolences thread. If this accident happened in a city where the chances of any of us knowing the vitims were minimal, I know exactly how the thread would have gone.

To those of you who knew the victims, you have my genuine condolences. I know what it's like to lose someone before their time and it seriously sucks. It leaves a void that can never be filled.

However, I've also been on the other end of this sort of situation. If any of you guys remember the accidnt involving the Del Sol on Lougheed Hwy a few years back, my girlfriend-at-the-time's grandma was one of the cars the driver had hit. She was trapped in her car, injured, and it took the jaws of life to get her out. I was definitely younger back then, but that incident taught me to look towards the innocent victims involved regardless of if it's a passenger in the car that caused the accident or someone that was hit. The drivers of both the car in my example and the one in the Mz6 very well could have been fantastic individuals. I didn't know either of them, and it's not my place to judge people on a single action. However, when that single action causes an impact such as they both did, don't be surprised if hostility rises up.

[bikerx]

Not that i knew the driver and passenger of the accident.... but i kind of lose respect for a member on the forum...let alone a Sponsor saying things like that....

[Inaii]

RIP

[subordinate]

Really? I don't lose respect at all for anyone who says that. They have their opinion, that's their right.

As Lomac said, what if it were your family members on the flipside? On the bus, and a couple of the passengers were severely injured? Would you still be saying RIP?

Edit:

Any sane individual would understand the risk of their actions. These guys knew it was slick roads and still decided to weave in/out and speed. Bad decisions for sure. And a sadder aftermath.

[JaeF]

You guys can say what you want, and fail my post as many times as you like. The fact is you DO NOT know the two that have died in the crash therefore it is easy for you to say "they deserved it" but I do know them.

Yes they did speed, but speaking about them as if their lives were utter trash that is going too far. There are others that know them and are grieving over their death as I speak and here you are saying

Originally Posted by Phil@rise

No need to pussy foot around issues and sugar coat bullshit. People die

That is the most inconsiderate thing I have ever heard someone say to a deceased person. You wouldn't like anyone saying that to people you know that are deceased, so why say it to others?

[inv4zn]

It may just be a difference in personalities, and how much you feel compelled to speak your mind, but there are times when not speaking your mind is more beneficial.

As stupid as the kids' actions were, their lives were lost, and that affects people. If they had killed the bus driver and some passengers, the kids' families and friends would still mourn their deaths, regardless of if they brought it upon themselves.

This shouldn't be a matter of who's guilty and who's innocent, and who feels sympathy for whom.

There was an accident, and 2 lives were lost. Some members on RS knew them personally, and are shaken up about it. To come up to them and blatantly speak your mind to say that their loves ones deserved to die and it's good they didn't take anyone with them is disrespectful, even if correct.

And compound the fact that Phil is representing a business, this seems like a very reasonable situation where not saying anything would have gone much further.

My opinion.

[Phil@rise]

Originally Posted by knight604

Phil, if it was one of your close friends or someone you knew, you would not be running your speaking about the ones that have passed.

Kids will always be kids , responsible or not. It is still someone's children.

I feel bad for the families and friends.

I think you should let people RIP.

I've felt the pain of death from family and friend. Most recently my father died a year ago from liver failure cause by hepatitis. My dog died three weeks ago from anal sac carcinoma. I cried more for my dog than I did for my father. My father chose to try an inter venous drug he took that risk he chose to disregard life my dog chose nothing.
I'm a hard knocks guy. Its who I am its how I was raised. Life is a gift and all those with it should respect it.
Like I said I feel for those affected not for those who caused it.

[GGnoRE]

Originally Posted by JaeF

Yes they did speed, but speaking about them as if their lives were utter trash that is going too far.

No, you are going too far buddy. No one spoke about them as if their lives were trash. Some people were just pointing to the fact that they have more sympathy towards the people who has to pay for your friend's mistakes.

[Hondaracer]

Never mind

[ThatKoukiKid]

Rest in paradise J&T you will be missed

[JaeF]

Originally Posted by GGnoRE

No, you are going too far buddy. No one spoke about them as if their lives were trash. Some people were just pointing to the fact that they have more sympathy towards the people who has to pay for your friend's mistakes.

Everyone's interpretation of what people says are different. In my point of view, from what Phil said, it is harsh. However, as everyone stated his character is like that, therefore there is no point in arguing.

[Harvey Specter]

Why don't we keep a thread like this clean for once seeing how a lot of RS members knew the victims...

RIP to the victims.

[LP700-4]

+1 It really sucks having someone you know just pass like that regardless if they were idiots/deserved it or not. Just plain disrespect IMO.

RIP to victims

[Qmx323]

both of them were friends of friends... RIP.

Although this accident was probably avoidable, lives this young shouldn't be lost.

[heleu]

My parents are family friends with the parents of one of the victims and I've met one of the victims once, a long time ago.

All I can say is that this is the time to grieve, not judge; would you really want this thread to come up in a google search and be read by close family and friends?

[StylinRed]

REVSCENE on CBC News


about this case


they made a loose correlation between speeders and this website

[unit]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Never mind

you pretty much stole the words right out of my mouth.

[4444]

Originally Posted by Redlines_Daily

If we were talking about strangers, then sure open up a discussion about it or create a thread. However, it seems like quite a few of our friends and fellow members knew these guys personally, it's not respectful to them to have this conversation right now in my opinion..I just don't see it as being constructive.

maybe the fact that people knew them will really push it home how fragile life is, and how one stupid mistake can take it away from you (i could go on here about how fucked up our infrastructure is - like really, a 3 lane bridge with no divider, what are we, living in communist Russia?! - a divider would have saved lives ... but i won't)

sadly these guys won't have a second chance to learn from their mistakes - lets hope it at least saves someone in the future from doing something similar

[Tim Budong]

Originally Posted by StylinRed

REVSCENE on CBC News


about this case


they made a loose correlation between speeders and this website

as always....

anyways..

i work with someone who knew them and heard some stuff about this accident... lots of chatter goin around..

My condolences. that is all

[XplicitLuder]

RIP. i know what its like to lose friends that have so much ahead of them, as one got taken away from my life last year on my bday.

I get where phil's coming from, and ya this isnt the place to say it but i do agree with him that i have more sympathy for the affected then those who brought it upon themselves. We all make poor choices, and now i get to witness my friends get torn apart because of a choice their friends did.

Here for you KT, JMC, etc etc.

[MrGoodbar]

Lions gate bridge has the most fucking stupid concept of a design I've ever seen. I'm not surprised that an accident of this magnitude happened; the two men drew the short stick and got fucked. No dividers? really? Two lanes with a shared middle lane? that's just fucking stupid. With the growing number of people in the city, the bridge is way over capacity at peak hours.

I remember a video in the shitty/dangerous drivers thread where someone (on this board with a dashcam) had a near miss with some idiot in the middle lane going the wrong way. If their death served anything, I hope it serves to have the egghead ministers of transportation manage the traffic control. That bridge is a serious cluster fuck.

Rest in Peace to the two drivers.

[vafanculo]

I just heard on news 1130 am that this accident sparked the question on whether they should close the middle lane at night
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[MrGoodbar]

Originally Posted by Paradise240

Had an extremely close call tonight, heading into downtown via Lions gate. Counter flow lane was opened, the other driver didn't see the red X's and continued to drive into on-coming traffic.

I give huge props to the BMW X3 (right lane) for seeing the situation, and slowing down quickly (as you can see, we were pretty much beside each other) in order for me to avoid the idiot.

5639 - YouTube

This video, holy fuck...

[umpadupa]

Rest in Paradise T

[Fappin]

Both guys were a friend of a friend. :l
RIP