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Old 11-29-2012, 06:28 PM   #76
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Your right I have sped and still do occasionally much like everyone else.
That is one of the most dangerous bridges in Canada. The speed limit is 50km/h on it. Have I driven 80+km/h on it? Never have never will, its a dangerous place to do so and not just for the sake of property or personal injury or death. There is an extreme probability of collateral damage and or death on this bridge.
The problem here isnt my attitude towards these kids it's the acceptance that shit happens, poor kids attitude. This creates precedence and acceptance towards more of this behavior leading to innocent people dying. A car can be a weapon or it can be personal transportation it all comes down to how you drive it. I believe a pat on the shoulder "I'm sorry your friend died he was a good kid" story is a terrible approach instead we should be reminding everybody just how precious life is and to respect your life but above all those of others. If you cant respect your life or those of others (exactly the case here) why should anyone respect theirs?
Like I said I sympathies for those affected and those who have to live with the decisions of those no longer with us. I do not sympathize for those who brought this upon themselves....... You make your bed you sleep in it!
Hows that for decorum?
T bought a new car. Who the fuk would not wanna rip it on a new car?
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T bought a new car. Who the fuk would not wanna rip it on a new car?

wanting to and doing so are 2 different things

doing so responsibly (track etc) and irresponsibly (in the wet on the hwy etc) are 2 different things
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T bought a new car. Who the fuk would not wanna rip it on a new car?
Those that want to live past a certain age.

I know its tempting. We've all been there. But if you don't make mature decisions, shit like this happens.

Its a shame. I don't think anyone should shit on them for their mistake though.
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there's something called if it doesn't sound nice keep it to yourself

some ppl aren't fortunate to make a mistake n live to learn from it, if you haven't pushed beyond ur limits in life you probably haven't really lived....

so ppl jumping outta planes n hoping the parachute will land them safely are stupid? u can go 10 above the speed limit n possibly hit someone crossing the road becuz you slept 1 hour less one day?

RIP to these two kids I don't think i've met that weren't lucky enough to be given a chance to realize their mistakes.... hope it reminds others that've known them to slow down and or test their cars elsewhere....

definitely not a good time, place, or condition to be excessively speeding when ur tires are prolly having trouble to warm up in cold/wet weather
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sigh... even though i didnt know them directly this has gotten me in the slumps the whole day. Though i usually drive safe most of the time, I admit I am still guilty of some really dumb driving habits every now and then. Especially late at night when you think no one else is on the road... the lesson learnt is "you never know"

now i feel like a fucking retard for ever driving like a retard
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so ppl jumping outta planes n hoping the parachute will land them safely are stupid?
not sure if srs comparison
How are skydivers endangering the lives of others?
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I dont give idiots gratitude or respect but meh if you respect idiots thats fine I guess. I doesnt say much good for you.
The only tragedy I see here is how their selfish stupid behaviour will forever negatively effect those directly involved (witnesses, paramedics, rescue crews etc) Those are who I respect.
The image of shattered bodies and twisted metal, the screams and moans of pain are with you forever. Those who deal with the aftermath of idiots have to live with that.
I have no respect for idiots.
callin the deceased idiots because of 1 mistake that costed em their life? really? you cannot called em on their "selfish stupid behaviour" because of this. its not like they PURPOSEDLY crashed to fuck with everyone's physical, mental and emotional state. It sucks that they died but its a big mistake and they paid the price. I don't understand why you would come into this thread and call their actions stupid and call them idiots in the end.. if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say it at all, and i know you wouldnt give a rat's ass, but i for sure will never go to rise auto now because of ur remarks, get some public relation tips online or some shit, you look like a real jackass now and for friends and friends on RS and wherever that know em, you got my full support if you need to talk or anything im here for ya, ive lost many friends over the years and i know how painful it is, keep ya head up guys
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This thread can't decide if it wants to be a condolences thread or a discussuion/opinion thread. Unfortunate and understandible that people can't express themselves fully without getting personal because so many on this site eem to know the two who died.

I'm all about second chances, especially when you're that age. Unfortunately some don't get to learn from their mistakes.

Would anyone happen to have a link or video of CBC mentioning RS in reguards to this story? I don't have cable and couldn't find anything at their site.
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To be fair to him, this is a thread about a news article talking about the accident. It didn't start out as a condolences thread. If this accident happened in a city where the chances of any of us knowing the vitims were minimal, I know exactly how the thread would have gone.
If that's the case...

let people post locals in the non-JB threads
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not sure if srs comparison
How are skydivers endangering the lives of others?
it doesn't unless shit goes wrong is my point

wut if it wasn't speed but just hard enough acceleration n black ice?

only idiot i see is the one representing his auto salon n acting like he knows it all

my 1.4L car can break traction accelerating in 2nd at 30km/h n so can my bike, so i'm an idiot now? good luck w/ sales LOL...
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Lions gate bridge has the most fucking stupid concept of a design I've ever seen. I'm not surprised that an accident of this magnitude happened; the two men drew the short stick and got fucked. No dividers? really? Two lanes with a shared middle lane? that's just fucking stupid. With the growing number of people in the city, the bridge is way over capacity at peak hours.

I remember a video in the shitty/dangerous drivers thread where someone (on this board with a dashcam) had a near miss with some idiot in the middle lane going the wrong way. If their death served anything, I hope it serves to have the egghead ministers of transportation manage the traffic control. That bridge is a serious cluster fuck.

Rest in Peace to the two drivers.
I do agree with all the above. I do.

I'd also like to say: A) If you don't feel comfortable driving it, then don't and B) Slow the fuck down!

Seriously...are you in such a hurry that you can't do 50 over the Lion's Gate bridge? I take the Patullo all the time and get in the right lane and cruise along at a normal speed. We can't replace every single bridge we have, at once with 6 lane bridges. The bill at the end would be astronomical. So maybe we need to do our part, and realize that being in a constant hurry all the time isn't always the answer.

I see people every day putting others at risk so they can do 70 in a 50, whipping around people in traffic so everyone else needs to slow down so they can get home faster.
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RIP to the 2 drivers. Hope this makes everyone realize and always think about your actions and the consequences they might have, not just for you yourself, but for your family and everyone around you too.


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Would anyone happen to have a link or video of CBC mentioning RS in reguards to this story? I don't have cable and couldn't find anything at their site.
Just after the 1:00 mark

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^Seems like CBC just made RS sound like some street racing site
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^not really... but Phil's auto salon got pretty famous
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Because they said sport car?
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Because they said sport car?
because they spoke of speeding and bam segue to revscene

its a light insinuation but its there
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because they spoke of speeding and bam segue to revscene

its a light insinuation but its there
The segue was definitely a little awkward and seemed to vaguely hint at "speeding" and "sport car site" as being one and the same. Or it could have been poor writing.

But hey... any publicity is good publicity... right?
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RIP to the 2 drivers. Hope this makes everyone realize and always think about your actions and the consequences they might have, not just for you yourself, but for your family and everyone around you too.




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High speed a factor in Lions Gate Bridge crash - British Columbia - CBC News
probably not the most opportune time to say this, BUT...

i HATE the local media and police - ALWAYS first thing they say is 'speed was likely a factor'

it's not speed, in and of itself, that's at fault here - the BS infrastructure and general lack of driver education prior to getting a full licence (an N is effectively a full licence - as in you don't have to drive with a parent)

look around the world, bigger, better, newer roads/bridges, etc. create safer driving conditions, irrelevant of speed

now, an idiot going way faster than traffic - yes, that's stupid, and that is speed, but here, you can be going 65mph on a multiple lane, non residential road, and you'll be deemed a 'danger' and were 'excessively speeding'

it's usually lack of experience, over excitement and too powerful of a car combined that creates a dangerous situation, such as this - but saying 'the bridge was wet' is BS, modern cars and modern tires can handle 80, 100 kpmh on a straight wet road - so it was likely poor driving and lack of experience that caused this tragic accident.

I certainly hope attitudes change in this city away from individual drivers being the 'fault' (although we shouldn't take away personal fault) - and start concentrating on improving road safety through better education and infrastructure

i'm sure i'll get failed by retards on here who think what i'm saying is insensitive, i'm not commenting on this case or these recently deceased, it's a general comment and we could all benefit from improvements to roads and driver skills
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holy fuck alpha, the shit you spewed out, str8 fuck boy shit, stop being a fake bitch with ur peace and unity shit, show ur true colours
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