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Old 05-22-2013, 12:05 PM   #51
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still too early to tell but right now PS4 looks like a much better product
I'm guessing the pricing will be very similar between the 2 consoles.
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I think XBox lost the focus. It's trying too hard on the media thing.

From what I gather so far, in order to get that nice PVR thing going, additional equipment is needed. Also, US ONLY at the moment. (I'm sure Rogers/Shaw/Telus/Bell gonna mark it up like no tomorrow if it ever makes its way to Canada)

3 OSes simutaneously?!?! WTF were they smoking? Out of the 8GB ram (DDR3 only vs DDR5 on PS4), only about 5.5GB is available for game devs.

Games are installed on HDD. I'm assuming the key for used copy would be closer to a full retail price to prevent users exploiting (i.e.: 5 dudes buy 1 copy and 4 extra licenses).

Kinect connected required for the XBOX to work. Thanks, but I'm not exactly comfortable knowing a camera pointing at my living room could be working 24/7 while connecting to the internet. What if I decide to bang a chick on the couch? I don't want XBox to suddenly go "I'm sorry, we couldn't understand your command" when chick is fucking screaming.
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So games and saves will be stored on the 'cloud' so you can access them anywhere.. How could you access them anywhere if people say only 1 account per xbox?

Me no understand. I'm buying one regardless, just seems very early for everything to seem final.
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Well Xbox guys, time to switch to PS4
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114million households don't have a broadband connection in the US / 29% dont have internet access at all

How are they going to play xbox one they couldn't even afford used games now either

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2049123.html

http://arstechnica.com/business/2012...t-fcc-reports/

and 20% of GB don't either although 54% of those don't care for it http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/rdit2/...als--2012.html

same with Canada http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/st...cs-canada.html
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And a lot of people who do have internet access don't have cable because they torrent shit, so they won't be using the TV functions the XBOX One pushing so hard.
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All gaming consoles. I don't game that much but somehow have all 3. In January deiced to go to EB games and pick up Gran Turismo 5. Found the new unopened Game of the year edition to be cheaper than a used version.

Get home turn on the PS3 that I have not turned on in months and put in the game. Then the updates start. It took 4 hours to do all the updates so I could play a game. 4 hours from putting in the disc to playing my first game What a load of crap.

What happened to the days of putting in a game playing for 15 minutes and then turning it off. It takes 10 minutes now just to start a game. I can understand what games on mobile phones are so popular now. No need to wast 1/2 a day just to play a game.
You know you could have just skipped the update and played the game. Then you could have downloaded it at night when you were sleeping so you have the full update by the time you wake up. Just some food for thought
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Old 05-23-2013, 01:33 PM   #59
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that's what i do...if i see a patch >30mb hit cancel
then again i do see see his point...it'll take like a good few minutes from the time you boot up the PS3 until you are in-game GT5 racing.
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I think XBox lost the focus. It's trying too hard on the media thing.

From what I gather so far, in order to get that nice PVR thing going, additional equipment is needed. Also, US ONLY at the moment. (I'm sure Rogers/Shaw/Telus/Bell gonna mark it up like no tomorrow if it ever makes its way to Canada)

3 OSes simutaneously?!?! WTF were they smoking? Out of the 8GB ram (DDR3 only vs DDR5 on PS4), only about 5.5GB is available for game devs.

Games are installed on HDD. I'm assuming the key for used copy would be closer to a full retail price to prevent users exploiting (i.e.: 5 dudes buy 1 copy and 4 extra licenses).

Kinect connected required for the XBOX to work. Thanks, but I'm not exactly comfortable knowing a camera pointing at my living room could be working 24/7 while connecting to the internet. What if I decide to bang a chick on the couch? I don't want XBox to suddenly go "I'm sorry, we couldn't understand your command" when chick is fucking screaming.
Devs can shut down cores during games so the OS is running on minimal power. It's also why you can suspend and do other tasks on the fly on a console. Without reserve CPU power for the background OS, you won't have cross-party chat. PS3 didn't reserve anything. Thats the big reason why PS3 didn't have that feature until more recently and XMB is poorly implemented as such.

I'd like devs to be able to code the ability to listen to my custom soundtrack but still have threads dedicated to streaming sound effects.

BTW, what additional equipment do you need for your set-top box to work with this? Telus DVRs already works with Kinect 1.0.
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I don't get what the big deal is about the whole internet connection thing.

If your going to drop the 300-400 dollars on this unit your definitely connecting it to online services.

Realistically how many of the whatever percentage of people that do not have internet access are going to buy this or any other gaming console.
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I don't get what the big deal is about the whole internet connection thing.

If your going to drop the 300-400 dollars on this unit your definitely connecting it to online services.

Realistically how many of the whatever percentage of people that do not have internet access are going to buy this or any other gaming console.
i dunno but how often do you see christmas videos or ghetto fabulous videos where the low income families have an xbox? quite often

and systems don't stay at 3-400 for long at all

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^Well I guess we'll start seeing videos of them opening PS4.

Might effect military camps stationed elsewhere and they don't get internet?
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Well, it seems like my 2000+ dollar investment in a gaming computer is finally paying off. :P
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I don't get what the big deal is about the whole internet connection thing.

If your going to drop the 300-400 dollars on this unit your definitely connecting it to online services.

Realistically how many of the whatever percentage of people that do not have internet access are going to buy this or any other gaming console.
I've owned almost every type of console available since the Atari 2600 and of all of them only my PS3 is connected to the internet. And the only reason why the PS3 is hooked up is to update the shitty EA games that come in barely post-Beta form. I don't play online multiplayer games, either. Sure, at my place in the Lower Mainland, my internet is fast and plentiful; however, in the Interior I can barely stream Netflix in SD format before it has conniptions and dies. As a result, I don't bother connecting anything but my computer up to the internet since the only internet service available up there is spotty satellite service. Owning a system that requires an internet connection to periodically "check" your unit is a waste of money for me, no matter how good the games and hardware may be.
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I've owned almost every type of console available since the Atari 2600 and of all of them only my PS3 is connected to the internet. And the only reason why the PS3 is hooked up is to update the shitty EA games that come in barely post-Beta form. I don't play online multiplayer games, either. Sure, at my place in the Lower Mainland, my internet is fast and plentiful; however, in the Interior I can barely stream Netflix in SD format before it has conniptions and dies. As a result, I don't bother connecting anything but my computer up to the internet since the only internet service available up there is spotty satellite service. Owning a system that requires an internet connection to periodically "check" your unit is a waste of money for me, no matter how good the games and hardware may be.
That's fair, but the majority of the target market for the console are probably not in your situation.

All I am trying to say is I don't see what the issue is. This next gen xbox is the first electronic to require an internet connection to work properly. (it may still work without a daily connection, nothing has been finalized)

I think that more electronics and OS's in the not so distant future will be rolling out the same type of "internet required" services.
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It was like 10 updates including firmware. I am probable wrong but I thought it was mandatory.
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It should be pretty obvious to everyone why they're pushing this always online connectivity bullshit, it's just a massive window into more ad revenue for companies like Microsoft and Sony, they do it under the guise of "it's cool to be connected to everything everyone all teh time" THATS why a lot of people have a PROBLEM with it, it's an insult to your intelligence first of all, and secondly it just doesn't follow the guidelines of common sense that is you own something when you pay for it, it's yours in full...... on the other relevant subject the resale shit, Steam for example, all you're doing is renting basically, you don't even own the shit you buy on Steam and Origin and all these other services, this is the world of gaming now, makes me glad I'm not a gamer anymore. And if you wanna be convinced it's ok because it's the "future" then......

on that subject, this vid cracked me up

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still too early to tell but right now PS4 looks like a much better product
I'm guessing the pricing will be very similar between the 2 consoles.
It IS too early to tell, it would be foolish to say one is better than the other right now. There is a LOT of misinformation, and people shitting on policies that don't even exist.

Now that is Microsoft's fault for having their execs give this misinformation. But as soon as they say "no that's not what we meant" then you should ignore the misinformation.

More info is coming out, and it has been confirmed that there is no fee to activate a used game, for instance.

There will be online activation, since as you know, offline piracy prevention is almost impossible. Since game installation is mandatory, my guess is that if you want to sell the game, you will have to uninstall the game first, deauthorizing it on your machine. After that, you can sell the game, and the next person can install it and authorize it.

If you have internet that is not online 24 hours a day, then don't get an Xbox One. Does that mean get a PS4 instead? Not necessarily... Sony hasn't said what their policy is yet, so assuming that they won't do something similar is just dumb. They could very well be doing the exact same thing - or maybe something even worse. It's just that there is no info about it yet - good or bad.

So just wait until more info comes out before deciding anything.

IMO PC gaming is the way to go anyway, for most hardcore gamers. Consoles are only worthwhile for exclusive titles. Everything else will be better on a decent pc.
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Good info, but got to say i enjoy consoles for the fact that when people come over it is easy to play in a group of friends and family.
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Good info, but got to say i enjoy consoles for the fact that when people come over it is easy to play in a group of friends and family.
I agree that's why I put in the 'hardcore gamer' part which you left out
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It should be pretty obvious to everyone why they'intelligence shing this always online connectivity bullshit, it's just a massive window into more ad revenue for companies like Microsoft and Sony, they do it under the guise of "it's cool to be connected to everything everyone all teh time" THATS why a lot of people have a PROBLEM with it, it's an insult to your intelligence first of all, and secondly it just doesn't follow the guidelines of common sense that is you own something when you pay for it, it's yours in full...... on the other relevant subject the resale shit, Steam for example, all you're doing is renting basically, you don't even own the shit you buy on Steam and Origin and all these other services, this is the world of gaming now, makes me glad I'm not a gamer anymore. And if you wanna be convinced it's ok because it's the "future" then......

on that subject, this vid cracked me up
Lol you make it sound like a conspiracy theory.

So what if it's a window for advertising, how is that an insult to our intelligence?
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