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Anjew 10-24-2013 12:24 AM

its fine on the 4s with the bells and whistles turned off but still slow on the 4. ipad 3 reminds me of android at times but the ipad 4 was perfectly snappy.

Acura604 10-24-2013 08:22 AM

i think with the new .3 update, my ipad3 and iphone5 is a lot more snappier.. I love it ! ! !

Akinari 10-25-2013 04:50 PM

Upgraded to iOS7 on my 4S, and my "Other" shot to 9.17GB. Nothing I did would make it reduce in size, had to do a full new phone restore :okay: Seriously don't understand how hard it could be for Apple to fix this issue that's been going on since the first iOS.

SkinnyPupp 10-25-2013 05:09 PM

That 'other' is icloud waiting to be uploaded. It's stupid, and the reason I have to turn icloud off

DJ Milk 10-25-2013 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Akinari (Post 8346956)
Upgraded to iOS7 on my 4S, and my "Other" shot to 9.17GB. Nothing I did would make it reduce in size, had to do a full new phone restore :okay: Seriously don't understand how hard it could be for Apple to fix this issue that's been going on since the first iOS.

I always have my iCloud turned off and one day I noticed my free space which should normally be 12gb drop to 5gb for no reason. I was about to restore my phone but decided to try an app called iClean. It got back my free space to what it should be but it was only able to get back about 1gb at a time. I had to run the app many times but it worked.

!Yaminashi 10-25-2013 08:23 PM

I'm liking the new speed on 7.0.3. Those dumb zoom animations were useless
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dangonay 10-27-2013 08:23 AM

Looks like 64bit isn't the "gimmick" all the uneducated naysayers were claiming it was.

Several developers have already created 64bit versions of their Apps, and many have added new features that were not possible on the iPhone 5/iOS 6 because the performance simply wasn't there. Moreover, developers have been able to take 64bit code directly from their Mac Apps and port it over to the 5S/iOS 7, bringing additional desktop features to mobile devices.

This is a bigger deal than most people think. Although we take many features on our PC's for granted (the ability to edit photos/video or do 3D animation) many seem to forget that this capability was once reserved for high-end workstations by companies like Silicon Graphics. This is how it's always been in the computer world - as technology gets better and our PC's get faster, software that was once the domain of mainframes or minis has trickled down to the PC. We are now seeing this with mobile devices (phones/tablets).


Apple making a 64bit processor and OS is going to accelerate this on iPhones and iPads since developers can share a 64bit codebase between the Mac and iOS. Developers who have spent time creating and optimizing 64bit code to perform various high-end functions on the Mac are now going to be able to bring some of those over to iOS devices.

I predict Microsoft is going to quickly follow this path as well (64bit Windows Phone). With the huge number of programs running on Windows, developers have a massive resource of code/features they can also port to WP.

Apple and Microsoft are the only two companies who can really make a smooth transition in bringing powerful desktop features to mobile devices. Everyone else is pretty much left out. I'm just wondering how long it will take MS to release 64bit WP.

LiquidTurbo 10-27-2013 11:55 AM

this whole pro to 64bit is probably in anticiptation of an iPad "pro", thats like 13", and a true answer to the laptop. It will be able to run desktop class apps.

Akinari 10-27-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8346964)
That 'other' is icloud waiting to be uploaded. It's stupid, and the reason I have to turn icloud off

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoop Monkey Monk (Post 8347033)
I always have my iCloud turned off and one day I noticed my free space which should normally be 12gb drop to 5gb for no reason. I was about to restore my phone but decided to try an app called iClean. It got back my free space to what it should be but it was only able to get back about 1gb at a time. I had to run the app many times but it worked.

Restored it twice, and restored from back-up after the second clean restore and the "Other" is now only ~760mb :badpokerface: even lower than it was when I was using iOS6.1.3

Now I have absolutely no need to upgrade to the 5s, until the 6 comes out with a larger screen.

SkinnyPupp 10-27-2013 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo (Post 8347861)
this whole pro to 64bit is probably in anticiptation of an iPad "pro", thats like 13", and a true answer to the laptop. It will be able to run desktop class apps.

Unless Apple moves completely to ARM, or develops a really good x86 chip, that'll never happen

BTW the 64 bit Exynos is ready, and will be in the next Galaxy phone

dangonay 10-27-2013 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo (Post 8347861)
this whole pro to 64bit is probably in anticiptation of an iPad "pro", thats like 13", and a true answer to the laptop. It will be able to run desktop class apps.

Tim Cook said (rightly so) that iOS and Mac OS will not be merged. This makes sense as the paradigms for a touch device and traditional PC are significantly different.

I doubt we'll see Photoshop on an iPad. But I can see Adobe making a "lite" version. And by "lite" I mean that it's a subset of all the features of Photoshop, not that the features themselves are lower quality versions. This will be possible as Adobe can take their existing 64bit highly optimized and fine tuned algorithms and bring them straight over to iOS virtually unchanged.

So to slightly reword your post, I think it's safe to say we'll see Apps with desktop class features, not the entire desktop App itself.

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8348109)
Unless Apple moves completely to ARM, or develops a really good x86 chip, that'll never happen

BTW the 64 bit Exynos is ready, and will be in the next Galaxy phone

Don't need to. What many people don't realize is that Apple made iOS 7 to have the same application binary interface (ABI) as Mac OS. For people who don't understand that term, it basically means that if two operating systems have the same ABI then an App compiled to run on one should also run on the other.

This is possible because Apple's implementation of ARMv8 is slightly different from ARM's standard specification. Clearly Apple has thought way ahead when they designed the A7 in order to allow developers to easily code for both iOS and Mac OS, and to start bringing features (by way of existing code) down to iOS.


As to a 64bit Exynos, the chip might be ready but what OS will it run? Just like there are numerous bloggers intent on minimizing the significance of the A7 and Apple's move to 64bit there are also numerous bloggers claiming that Android can be converted to 64bit virtually "overnight" and that making a 64bit DalvikVM will benefit all existing Apps. It's not going to be nearly that easy or "clean".

And unlike iOS or WP (who have "parents" in Mac OS and Windows), there's no huge library of 64bit software developers can call on to start bringing desktop class features to Android Apps. Nobody's coding Photoshop (or similar high-end software) in Java.

Mr.HappySilp 10-27-2013 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dangonay (Post 8348287)
Tim Cook said (rightly so) that iOS and Mac OS will not be merged. This makes sense as the paradigms for a touch device and traditional PC are significantly different.
.

Agree! Just look at Win 8 and all the negative feedback it have. Win 8 is good on a tablet/cell phone but not on a PC. I actually downgrade my laptop which had Win8 install to Win7. Took a long time to get all the drivers but is well worth the time.

rice cooker 03-20-2014 08:47 PM

Anyone else find the swipe down search annoying as fuck
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Mr.HappySilp 03-20-2014 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8348109)
Unless Apple moves completely to ARM, or develops a really good x86 chip, that'll never happen

BTW the 64 bit Exynos is ready, and will be in the next Galaxy phone

Next Galaxy phone as in S5 high end version or the Note 4? Just curious because the S5 isn't really all the impressive.

Not sure if it is the phone or android 4.3 but when I am using wechat and other messages at the same time my Z1 lag like crazy and drains battery too. Phone was sitting at 70% and down 22% in a few hours..... switch back to iphone 5s and no issue like this at all........

My other friend who also message a lot had the same issue with her 4s.

Ikkaku 03-20-2014 11:03 PM

wechat drains my battery pretty quickly as well, using the iphone 5. Feels like it uses more power than whatsapp.

No lag though.

LiquidTurbo 03-21-2014 06:18 AM

Can someone explain how the change in green of the icons in iOS7.1 makes a meaningful difference? haha Geez.

SkinnyPupp 03-21-2014 07:21 AM

I was having major performance issues with 7, and bad battery drain. I tried a full wipe and restore, but that didnt' fix it. This time I tried a wipe and start from scratch, reinstalling apps. Performance was fixed, but it still drains 10-15% battery a day, and I only use it about 30-60 mins a day. 7.1 didn't fix this either :(

It is connected to wifi on idle, and checking email.. if that is draining the battery that much, wow

Hakkaboy 03-26-2014 11:33 AM

Is there a way for the default Mail app to automatically download full versions of HTML emails?

5S on IOS 7.1

Some of my work emails are showing up as plain text when it should be HTML and it's really really annoying to scroll all the way to the bottom and pressing the "Download full page"

ps. Lack of a notification LED is one of the stupidest oversights in today's day and age. Not sure why anyone would want to use an iPhone as a work phone (or personal phone) without one

Iceman_2K 03-26-2014 08:39 PM

You can use the flash as a notification light. Its in the settings.

Hakkaboy 03-26-2014 09:46 PM

^yes but that's only one and done. If you miss it you do not see it. You have to constantly press the home button to turn on the screen to see if you have any notifications or not

Unlike Blackberries and most Android phones where there is a light that beeps every few seconds letting you have a message/email/text/push notification waiting

You can even set different colours LEDs depending on what type of notification

!Aznboi128 03-26-2014 09:55 PM

iirc notification light keeps blinking as long as you don't turn cancel the notification

Hakkaboy 03-27-2014 01:39 PM

Unfortunately i have not found a setting for it, only for it to use the flash led when the notification comes in. At least not Jailbroken, anyways.

And even if there is some sort of JB hack, it's on the wrong side anyways so you would have to leave the phone face down at all times. Bottom line is no front led notification light is a major oversight.

Don't even get me started on the lack of numbers/symbols on the keyboard w/o toggling. Wow. I knew that not being able to change the KB on IOS is a limitation versus other phones, but I didn't know it was that limited...

Ikkaku 03-27-2014 03:14 PM

if you're so unhappy with it, sell it and get a nexus 5 and be done with it.

!Aznboi128 03-27-2014 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hakkaboy (Post 8444887)
Unfortunately i have not found a setting for it, only for it to use the flash led when the notification comes in. At least not Jailbroken, anyways.

And even if there is some sort of JB hack, it's on the wrong side anyways so you would have to leave the phone face down at all times. Bottom line is no front led notification light is a major oversight.

Don't even get me started on the lack of numbers/symbols on the keyboard w/o toggling. Wow. I knew that not being able to change the KB on IOS is a limitation versus other phones, but I didn't know it was that limited...

it sounds like the iPhone isn't for you.

There are plenty of other devices I would suggest you to choose from, maybe a Blackberry since you love the notification light and the fact that Blackberry has a physical keyboard might appeal to you more.

I think a lot of iPhone/iOS users are more then happy with a simple notification. I myself have a pebble so I can check notification whenever I want with out touching my phone.

Hakkaboy 03-27-2014 04:33 PM

Yeah, you're right. An iPhone is not for me. Unfortunately this is a work phone. I have Note 2 as my personal phone and have gone thru 3 other Android phones (including Nexus 5). Only my first Android phone (original Galaxy S) from 3 1/2 years ago didn't have a notification light, which is why i'm surprised the latest 5S does not have it.

As for Blackerries, yeah have used 4 different ones for work in the past 5+ years and they finally kicked us off BB's. Too bad they didn't really give the OS10 a chance.

I do find that the predictive text (and swype capability) on the Swiftkey (keyboard) on my Android phones work quite well tho

And lastly, a smartwatch is definitely on my "to buy" list. Just waiting on the moto 360

Anyways sorry for the rant, back to my original question. Is there a way to enable auto-download full HTML messages for emails? TIA


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