If Edler's hit was suspension worthy, this one's much more vicious.
Not sure what Scott's history is, but this hit wasn't clean.
The timing is debatable, but the elbow isn't.

Watch again in slow-mo. His elbow is down, but he actually begins to swing out the elbow right before he makes contact with eriksson's head,
and then the follow-through is clearly seen afterward. Look at Scott's number on his sleeve for reference of when he begins to swing out the elbow.
It's before he connects with Eriksson's head.

I wouldn't define that as "hunched" forward either, that's typical position when the knees are bent, releasing the puck.
He wasn't lunging for a loose puck like Hertl.

Intentional or not, that's a dangerous play that should be punished accordingly.

Slight aside with all the suspension talk but the NHL needs to adopt the NFL style for handing out suspensions. Look for intent to injure and not if the play led to an injury. This is the ONLY way to cut down/eliminate these dangerous plays.

Should it matter if the other player got injured? Absolutely not. A suspension should be handed out on the basis of the intention of injuring that player. It should be based on the act and not the outcome.

100% agreed.

And if I may add, the skill and status of the player involved should have no merit on the decision. Star or scrub, victim or offender - the star quality of a player should have no influence on the outcome of a decision.

Kev

This should have been turned into the 'Savard Rule' with an automatic XX game suspension with a blind side hit to the head.

Much like the 'Brady rule'

I know you qualify the following statements:

-Had Erikkson dangled, it would have been the perfect hit
-I don't feel Scott was going for the head
-Scott was finishing his check

with:

-It's a fast game and it was a fast play
-Scott is not a fast player.

But in all seriousness, what are you even watching? The NHL made rules changes to address these types of hits specifically. Principal point of contact is the head. He's going to be suspended. Although he's never been suspended, I think he'll get north of 7.

I'll give you the fact that taking a closer look at the video it's not clear whether the hit was actually late nor was it really an elbow, but definitely it was an illegal check to the head. The type of hit that the league absolutely wants to abolish.

At what point do you hold the coach accountable and fine him. Rolston now has three incidents under his belt.


John Scott, TOI/GP by coach:
- 2013-14 Rolston: 4:57.
- 2011-12 Quenneville: 6:56.
- 2009-10 Richards: 8:36.
- 2008-09 Lemaire: 9:14.

Smartest thing said in this thread.

Intent is much harder to prove than injury, just sayin
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It's better than the current system we have in place. As for hard to prove intent? Well, those extra few strides you take, the raised elbow you have, the jump before the hit, these all contribute to intent.

from canucks' fb page:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...72544762_n.jpg

So many feels in that pic
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Schneider gets to play his second game against us. Another showdown between Lu and Schneids.

CBC Sports - Devils' Cory Schneider gets 2nd start vs. Canucks

gif'd...

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/assets/3447333/cheapshot.gif

bit surprising Loui didn't really seem like he saw him coming

^
Probably looking down at the puck & red line...

@gif, first time seeing the hit. wel, thats a blind side hit (west east)

Quest for the Cup: Episode 1 - Sportsnet.ca

Sportsnet mem cup documentary series - last year was the Saskatoon Blades, this year is the London Knights. We'll get to see some behind the scenes looks at Bo Horvat, which is pretty cool.

Destroy schneids!
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Thanks for the convenience.
Yep, definitely see the elbow swing into the head.
Even easier to see now. Elbow was low, but not tucked in and stationary.

That wasn't a charge so on what basis do you prove intent?

Other than it being Scott there isn't much to fall back on

Was Edlers hit intentional? IMO hockey is too fast to use a rule like footballs
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Man, so I guess I REALLY haven't been following the Canucks the past season or so... who the hell is Welsh?

Dalpe and Welsh was acquired from the Canes for Tochkin and 4th round pick.

That's why you make any headshot a mandatory 10 game suspension. Doesn't matter whether intent is there or not. I guarantee you that headshots would be a thing of the past if that rule came into play.

I just don't understand why its so hard for the NHL to understand.
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shanny just doesn't know how to do his job.

there's also politics in play, favouritism for teams, favouristism for star players and all that shit to deal with. this all leads to inconsistencies and players being confused as to what is actually legal and what isn't. in short, it's a mess and it needs fixing. shanny hasn't made the situation any better since he took the job.

Shanahan has ruined his reputation with the videos, because there are so many instances where he has NO consistency.
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fuuuuk
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