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Mike Oxbig 11-14-2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8361752)
You realize that MacT is a puppet for Lowe and Katz, right?

Original plan was to move Hemsky for depth/help, we all knew that

Jmac 11-14-2013 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Earl (Post 8361789)
Original plan was to move Hemsky for depth/help, we all knew that

Obviously, but no one wants Hemsky. He's a slightly more talented, more injury prone version of Raymond with a price tag 5x higher ...

trancehead 11-14-2013 01:07 PM

@DarrenDreger: Oilers offered three 2nd round picks for Braydon Coburn at the Draft and couldn't close the deal. Trades in season are much harder to make.

Bouncing Bettys 11-14-2013 01:19 PM

Kadri gets 3 games. I can live with that.

Jmac 11-14-2013 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8361835)
Kadri gets 3 games. I can live with that.

McClement to center the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd lines with Smithson taking the 4th?

Bouncing Bettys 11-14-2013 01:42 PM

^pretty much. Leafs can't call up anyone without sending someone down at this point. At least 2 of the games are back to back against the Sabres and hopefully Bozak can return after that.

Jmac 11-14-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by trancehead (Post 8361825)
@DarrenDreger: Oilers offered three 2nd round picks for Braydon Coburn at the Draft and couldn't close the deal. Trades in season are much harder to make.

Dreger, though ... The guy has about as much credibility now as Eklund unless it's about the Leafs ...

And, also, obviously PHI wouldn't take that deal

Bouncing Bettys 11-14-2013 01:46 PM

David Shoalts @dshoalts
Shanahan said 3 games for Kadri boiled down to this: It wasn't intentional but he didn't do enough to avoid "or minimize" hit on Backstrom.

trancehead 11-14-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8361851)
Dreger, though ... The guy has about as much credibility now as Eklund unless it's about the Leafs ...

And, also, obviously PHI wouldn't take that deal

for some reason i thought most of the TSN guys were rock solid

maybe it just applies to Bob Mack

haha but if Dreger is as bad as Eklund...:okay:

I hope Philly continues their strong comeback. #28 is a Crosby killer

m3thods 11-14-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by trancehead (Post 8361883)
for some reason i thought most of the TSN guys were rock solid

maybe it just applies to Bob Mack

haha but if Dreger is as bad as Eklund...:okay:

I hope Philly continues their strong comeback. #28 is a Crosby killer

Don't forget Pierre Lebrun! I think he's as reliable, if not more than Bobby.

Ronin 11-14-2013 03:11 PM

Funny how Lucic got nothing for...probably a much more malicious hit but Miller was way out of the crease.

Gumby 11-14-2013 03:38 PM

^
Boston gets a free pass. :troll:

Jmac 11-14-2013 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 8361920)
Funny how Lucic got nothing for...probably a much more malicious hit but Miller was way out of the crease.

That was back in the Colin Campbell era ...

This hit got 0 games and wasn't a penalty ...

This hit got 0 games and wasn't a penalty ...

This hit got 0 games and wasn't a penalty ...

This hit got 0 games and a 2 minute minor ...

This hit got 0 games and a 2 minute minor ...

CRS 11-14-2013 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8361851)
Dreger, though ... The guy has about as much credibility now as Eklund unless it's about the Leafs ...

And, also, obviously PHI wouldn't take that deal

Really? I've always found Dreger to be quite reliable.

Jmac 11-14-2013 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CRS (Post 8361961)
Really? I've always found Dreger to be quite reliable.

http://i.imgur.com/Wtd4pvh.jpg

UFO 11-14-2013 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Earl (Post 8361789)
Original plan was to move Hemsky for depth/help, we all knew that

Just like orig plan was to move Lu for a roster player, top prospect, and high pick.

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8361853)
David Shoalts @dshoalts
Shanahan said 3 games for Kadri boiled down to this: It wasn't intentional but he didn't do enough to avoid "or minimize" hit on Backstrom.

That's a fair assessment, and reasonable suspension length. Good job Shanaban, or maybe he just got lucky on this one. So nothing came of the hit that he got a match penalty for? IMO that was a more questionable and definitely intentional play

UFO 11-14-2013 04:27 PM

And the Oilers need to take notes from the Avs on how to rebuild. I don't think the Avs sustain their performance the whole season, but at least it gives some hope, and their prospects are nowhere near the caliber of Edmonton's prospects, IMO.

Spoon 11-14-2013 04:35 PM

So what notes should they be taking? Draft lesser prospects = success?
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Jmac 11-14-2013 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by UFO (Post 8361971)
And the Oilers need to take notes from the Avs on how to rebuild. I don't think the Avs sustain their performance the whole season, but at least it gives some hope, and their prospects are nowhere near the caliber of Edmonton's prospects, IMO.

They have two #1 picks, a #2, and a #3 ...

Mackinnon, E. Johnson, Landeskog, Duchene, and O'Reilly

vs.

Hall, Nugent-Hopkins, Yakupov, Gagner, and Eberle

It really doesn't seem like Edmonton has much, if any, skill advantage there. Maybe a bit more offensive skill, but Colorado certainly has players that have a more diverse skillset than Edmonton's. O'Reilly and Landeskog are both very versatile players and Mackinnon has some bite to his game as well. Only Duchene is similar to most of Edmonton's prospects and I'm hesitant to say he's any better or worse than them skill-wise.

UFO 11-14-2013 04:46 PM

1) You need a goalie who can stop pucks
2) You need to have defensemen
3) You need forwards to actually play defense, mainly because you have no defenseman and the guy you rely on as your top d-man thinks he's a forward

I don't know what the Av's are doing right, I don't follow them, but if you're an Oilers fan it must hurt like hell to see a rebuilding team go from last in the west to 2nd in the NHL in just 1 off season (like I mentioned I don't think they stay there though). Or maybe it gives them hope, who knows.

UFO 11-14-2013 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8361984)
They have two #1 picks, a #2, and a #3 ...

Mackinnon, E. Johnson, Landeskog, Duchene, and O'Reilly

vs.

Hall, Nugent-Hopkins, Yakupov, Gagner, and Eberle

It really doesn't seem like Edmonton has much, if any, skill advantage there. Maybe a bit more offensive skill, but Colorado certainly has players that have a more diverse skillset than Edmonton's. O'Reilly and Landeskog are both very versatile players and Mackinnon has some bite to his game as well. Only Duchene is similar to most of Edmonton's prospects and I'm hesitant to say he's any better or worse than them skill-wise.

Johnson was brought in on a trade, Av's gave up 2 pretty pricey pieces to take a chance on Johnson who was underachieving with the Blues. And save for Mackinnon, the Avs had the same young players last season where they sucked it up

So basically the Oilers have too many of the same players, but they are unwiling to part with them (or have been in the past) to allow the whole team to move forward. That's not any of the players' fault. The Oilers now have a coach who's pretty bent on work ethic, was known as a player's coach, pretty good track record of working with and developing young players. Change doesn't happen overnight, but so far, it seems the players aren't getting the message. THAT is on the players.

spoon.ek9 11-14-2013 06:05 PM

game time! please prove us all wrong booth. please.

Vansterdam 11-14-2013 06:11 PM

is the game on tv?

Kilinim 11-14-2013 06:11 PM

Oooo golden opportunity for Booth

Kilinim 11-14-2013 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Vansterdam (Post 8362065)
is the game on tv?

302 on shaw


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