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Yes, mods..please do not embedd his videos, I much prefer to copy the URL, open a new window, paste and then scroll back to delete the underscore at the beginning that I didn't notice when I copied. -__-
(Reuters) - About 800 Iraqis were killed in August, the United Nations said on Sunday, condemning a wave of violence in the country that has reached levels not seen since 2008.
Most of the 804 killed were civilians, targeted in shootings and bombings mainly claimed by the Iraqi wing of al Qaeda. More than 2,000 people were wounded, the U.N. figures showed.
The number of people who were killed last month was however lower than in July, when the U.N. reported that there were 1,057 victims, the highly monthly toll since 2008. Violence in Iraq was at its height in 2006-2007 when the number of people killed per month sometimes exceeded 3,000.
Nearly 5,000 civilians have been killed and 12,000 wounded since the beginning of 2013, the United Nations Assistance Mission for Iraq (UNAMI) said in a statement.
In August, Baghdad was once again the most affected governate, accounting for more than a third of those killed nationwide, the U.N. said.
Since 2008 violence has decreased and a rise in oil revenues has helped to boost the economy. But eighteen months since U.S. troop withdrew, bombing campaigns have increased.
Insurgents have been invigorated by the sectarian conflict in neighboring Syria and have profited from rising political tensions in Iraq.
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well you could say the UK doesn't support military intervention since they voted no
and the majority of the populations of the UK/US/France don't want intervention
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thank you for that video.. i think the use of chemical weapons has been greatly overshadowed and needs to be dealt with immediately before it becomes the norm in warfare. Its very easy for people to protest and give opinions in the safety of their own homes far far away from war torn areas while ignoring that glaring issue.
and i dont think anyone is ignoring the use of chemical weapons, i think that's what everyone is talking about.. the problem is who is spreading it? or is blaming the guy you dont like and shooting him good enough to satisfy your need to do something?
Listening to John kerry talk to senate... he's full of so much shit this is hilarious
Listening to Kerry and McCain was so brutal I lost all respect I had for both of them. The bullshit flowing out of their mouths, as Vietnam vets, was an absolute embarrassment. Both are sellout hypocrites of the highest regard.
American foreign policy is a joke. I do believe they try to play the sympathy card too much in order to gain support on wars. Apparently citizen bombings are okay but chemical weapons and nukes are not. What is even more ironic is that America sees bombing another country is humane while chemical attacks are a human atrocity. I always love to see the victim number count being pulled up by America but they themselves NEVER release the count on civilian casualties from their bombings, instead they would send Bradley Manning to life in prison for releasing any kind of info regarding their wars.
So far Obama/Kerry have stated that America has the right to strike at Syria whether due process or not.
The UN is warning the US against any kind of coordinated strike as we speak. This is not a good sign in my eyes and the UN is right, if the US decide to go ahead without UN approval this could spark WWIII as it looks like all conditions for a global conflict have been met.
Anyone else besides me also find it funny that Russia and China are trolling America on every UN resolution brought forth
Reminds me of playing Civ V... I fucking hate a country and would love if it was wiped off the face of the earth... but I make way too much money off them, so I'll do what I can to stop it from happening
We don't need another confrontation, and spoon feeding other countries only weakens them for the future anyway. I don't mean to make it sound like Syrians aren't worthy of aid, but they need to learn how to organize themselves and root out evil wherever it is on their own.
Gassing is a terrible way to dispatch anyone, let alone your own people, but it's not our fight to win.
We don't need another confrontation, and spoon feeding other countries only weakens them for the future anyway. I don't mean to make it sound like Syrians aren't worthy of aid, but they need to learn how to organize themselves and root out evil wherever it is on their own.
Gassing is a terrible way to dispatch anyone, let alone your own people, but it's not our fight to win.
No one has ever been left to fight their own battles.
Even in America's revolutionary war, it was France that put the pressure on to England that ended it. Of course, the american school children will tell you that George Washington ripped the hearts out of every redcoat on american soil himself.
It would be nice to say that its an internal affair of a country, but when you have rebels fighting against the government packed in the back of a Toyota pickup carrying hand me down AK's, you start to realize that their cause isn't going to get very far.
My prediction for what happened. Take it with a grain of salt. The allied world tells them, "chemical weapons is the line. This far, no farther." Pres. Obama himself says exactly that.
Ok.
Boom. Chemical weapons get used.
Shocker.
If someone invites you to use them as a way to get them involved, then they will be used.
This shit, to me, stinks of Iraq. You'd think we'd be wiser.
FYI, back in 2012 Obama had already stated that the line that shouldn't be crossed in Syria was the threat and/or use of chemical weapons by Assad's government.
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