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Old 09-06-2013, 11:18 AM   #151
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Old 09-06-2013, 12:40 PM   #152
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Shitty this has happened but at least it happened when all the leaders were meeting. Hopefully this will change Russias outlook but I doubt they will.

Another gas attack in Syria: reports | News1130

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This comes as the G20 Summit with world leaders wraps up with no consensus on what to do about the reported attacks.

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Shitty this has happened but at least it happened when all the leaders were meeting. Hopefully this will change Russias outlook but I doubt they will.

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wow i guess this news was so fake no one else wanted to touch it
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Old 09-06-2013, 08:31 PM   #155
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Supposedly Bloomberg took it off their twitter feed soon after posting. How credible is this Al-arabiya when it's Saudi owned.
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So breaking news this morning


Russia has proposed that Assad give up Syrias chemical weapons to the international community to prevent attack

Senator Kerry said "sure but assad wont do it"

and then Syria came out and said "Sure we'll hand them all over"

Hillary Clinton came out and said she supports Obama but perhaps Russias plan should be given a chance


And the warmongers are calling BULLSHIT that wont happen this is a ploy!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...us-strike.html


also Assad did a news interview the other day where he maintains that they didn't use chemical weapons
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According to my news sources Syria has not said anything close to agreeing to hand over their chemical weapons. They barely admit to having them even though the whole world knows they do.

Kerry didn't agree either, he said they might avoid an attack by putting their chemical weapons under international control and later having them destroyed.
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USA is a warmongering country,
You don't build floating armadas without the intention of using them. Also, war is good for US weapon manufacturers.
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Not sure where to post this but it's related.

What's fucked up is this is from October 2008. Watch and listen to what he says before you judge.



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Syria says it?ll put its chemical weapons under int?l control | News1130

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VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) – Syria has accepted a Russian proposal to give up its chemical weapons to the international community in an attempt to avoid a military strike from the United States.

Syria’s foreign minister announced the decision today after meeting with the speaker of Russia’s parliament.
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Obama has put off the US senate vote too but CNN is saying it's not because of this news but rather Obama didn't have the votes anyways



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Not sure where to post this but it's related.

What's fucked up is this is from October 2008. Watch and listen to what he says before you judge.

The men behind Barack Obama part 1 - YouTube


The men behind Barack Obama part 2 - YouTube
he doesn't really say much, most of which people know, Russia and China are headed(are there) to be world superpowers (stomping the west) and the fight for resources/allies is going on in Africa/Mid East

All he really adds are those bankers that he claims are pulling Obamas puppet strings and well we all know there are bankers behind presidents trying to pull strings but is he right about which bankers in particular? who knows who cares? as mentioned its expected that there will be wealthy/powerful people/corporations trying to get what they want out of policy makers

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Obama has put off the US senate vote too but CNN is saying it's not because of this news but rather Obama didn't have the votes anyways
I can't find it at the moment, but BBC had a pretty good graph showing all the different members who were either for or against it, along with those who were likely to vote in either direction. It may not have been entirely accurate but it definitely painted a picture showing that maybe only 1/3 of the senate would have been for a "limited" attack, while the other 2/3's were against it.
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^^ yeah i saw something similar, I'm quite surprised though I thought it was going to end up a media hype as the senate not wanting to vote Obamas way but in the end the vote would turn out overwhelmingly in Obamas favour
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This has about as much to do with the people of Syria as it was the people of Afghanistan and Iraq.

Syria sits next to Israel. So therefore, they would want a government that is either friendly to their interests(preferred) or too busy/bloody to care. A good insurrection does keep them focused on the home front.

Russia lacks allies in the region. Syria happens to be one of them. Therefore, Russia will support Syria to a) keep an ally and b) that ally is making things bad for a competitor-Russia.

Of course, there are oil politics involved. There is a matter of a competing pipelines to think about involving different countries within the region.

In fact, several Arab countries are willing to pay for the US to overthrow the Syrian government.

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“In fact, some of them have said that if the United States is prepared to go do the whole thing the way we’ve done it previously in other places, they’ll carry that cost,” Kerry said. “That’s how dedicated they are at this. That’s not in the cards, and nobody’s talking about it, but they’re talking in serious ways about getting this done.”


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So you tell me, does that sound at all like a war about saving the kittens? Nope.

That to me is "get rid of someone not playing ball like you have done so many times before. And! As an added bonus, seeing as the new Iraq isn't paying off yet-we'll fund it."

So why won't congress sign off on this? Because no one wants to actually be the guy that says yes to sending more troops to some middle eastern country to make yet another mess that is going to blow up in their faces in 20 years.
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This has about as much to do with the people of Syria as it was the people of Afghanistan and Iraq.

Syria sits next to Israel.
If anything, this shows that the Syrian people, or people in Syria for that matter, can't live peacefully without lobbing exploding things at each other. If they can't start acting like adults, it's time for someone to step in and quiet the children.
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If anything, this shows that the Syrian people, or people in Syria for that matter, can't live peacefully without lobbing exploding things at each other. If they can't start acting like adults, it's time for someone to step in and quiet the children.
except its the outsiders that are instigating the fighting like saudi arabia
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Saw Obama's address. He called the opposition "moderate"...

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except its the outsiders that are instigating the fighting like saudi arabia
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So to just get this straight, the US will not bomb Syria as Obama wants congress to hold off voting until Syria gives up their chemical weapons to be destroyed?
And if Syria gives up their chemical weapons there will be no attack?

On another note, I found it interesting how he concluded his speech with, "God bless you and God bless the United States of America".
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I'm sorry, but you don't put out an invitation if you don't want people to come to the party.

Obama said publicly that Syria using chemical weapons would change the way that they viewed the situation in Syria in regards to intervention.

Well no shit Syria used chemical weapons. And no shit Russia brokers a truce that asks them to give them up. Killing 1000 people, sadly, is not a big thing to accomplish for a government. Even easier if its people you don't like.

It embarasses the Americans. What can they do now? Sit there and say, "well shit yeah...I guess we'll wait, and see...but if you screw up again, why I'll such and such and so and so."
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MOSCOW — RECENT events surrounding Syria have prompted me to speak directly to the American people and their political leaders. It is important to do so at a time of insufficient communication between our societies.

Relations between us have passed through different stages. We stood against each other during the cold war. But we were also allies once, and defeated the Nazis together. The universal international organization — the United Nations — was then established to prevent such devastation from ever happening again.

The United Nations’ founders understood that decisions affecting war and peace should happen only by consensus, and with America’s consent the veto by Security Council permanent members was enshrined in the United Nations Charter. The profound wisdom of this has underpinned the stability of international relations for decades.

No one wants the United Nations to suffer the fate of the League of Nations, which collapsed because it lacked real leverage. This is possible if influential countries bypass the United Nations and take military action without Security Council authorization.
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So to just get this straight, the US will not bomb Syria as Obama wants congress to hold off voting until Syria gives up their chemical weapons to be destroyed?
And if Syria gives up their chemical weapons there will be no attack?

On another note, I found it interesting how he concluded his speech with, "God bless you and God bless the United States of America".
That whole fucking speech was creepy... The way it was so rehearsed to get the public on their side to support war.. showing all these pictures of people, etc...

Yet they bomb innocent people and children every day with drones...
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FLASHBACK, JANUARY: UK?s Daily Mail Publishes Story Saying Obama Plans To Launch Chemical Attack On Syrian Civilians, Blame Assad « Pat Dollard

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