i really dig the premiere. I already like the main cast better than Woody Harrelson esp Colin Farrell. If the showrunners thought Vince Vaughn was gonna hurt the series they won't cast him. He's actually pretty decent, you just know him as a goofball cause he's in a lot of stupid movies....but so was Mcconaughey before landing in so many good roles in recent years.

I don't know about you guys but the plot in season 1 did shit for me and it doesn't look like I care much about this one either. But that's not why I watch the show; I follow it because of the good character development, the setting and the beautiful camera work.

not to mention it's probably only one of the few quality shows in TV right now

^^ what you don't like Ballers? :troll:

If you boiled the main plot down it really isn't much. probably one or two episodes of content.

Detectives follow lead A who brings them to lead B. Detectives shake down lead B who dishes about lead C, etc etc, Yellow King, pedophiles, etc etc. I'd say the draw of the show really does lie in the character development and the secondary stories that surround them.

didn't watch ballers, not interested in another entourage type show...they get old too fast but I've been meaning to check out californication now that it's completed.

oh silly me, how did i talk about what I liked in this show without mentioning daddario's perfect tits :victory:

Ballers was boring as hell. Don't bother.

Watched Californication on a whim a few years back. I couldn't stop watching it because Hank Moody is so damn funny. Still need to watch S5+ though since they weren't available on Netflix at the time.

Definitely waiting on a few more episodes before watching TD. It's what I did last year and since it took me a while to get into S1, so I imagine it'll be the same here.

That ending wtf

Funny thing is...halfway through the episode, I wondered to myself if the show would be daring enough to do something like that this episode.

The ending surprised me, but I'm still not sold on the new season. I don't need it to replicate S1, but it feels adrift. I keep telling myself as I'm watching, to give it time and let it develop before making a judgement call but I'm finding it hard to make me a believer that it can be as good or better than S1.

The storytelling feels wrong...it's too complicated.

This popped up on my YT...reminds me of how awesome S1 was:


Stunning oner.

I suspect Velcoro was shot with the same gauge as the guy who got his balls blown off. Meant to wound, not kill.

Bird shot

if they werent trying to kill him they wouldnt have shot him in the gut from 3" away. im pretty sure hes dead. i was ready to call it quits until they killed him though, that made the show interesting enough for another chance.

is nobody going to mention the raven head, wtf was that?

I think you're right about that. I'm pretty sure he ain't dead cause there's still scenes with him from the trailer we still haven't seen yet; I do believe he will be out of commission for at least next episode.

I've stopped comparing this season to season 1 and just accepted it for what it is, but season 2 is arguably not even half as good so far. That opening monologue with Vince Vaughn about punching a rat was so cheesy and pretentious. Also the car ride conversation between Ani and Ray was nowhere near as interesting as the conversations between Marty and Rust; although the line about e-cigs was pretty golden lol "It's a little too close to sucking a robots dick".

It's one of those shows that doesn't really hit you until half way through the season or further.

The 6 minute single shot scene from S1 was off the chain awesome and I hope they have one of those "WOW" moments in S2 at some point.

It's Justin Lin...there will surely be some ridiculous set piece. Just watch Crazy Cop 1 and Crazy Cop 2 and Crazy Girl Cop drive a car out of a skyscraper window...INTO ANOTHER SKYSCRAPER!

I think 3/4 of Vinci PD and the city's civilian population died in that episode

I like how that 1 shot video was posted on this page and tonights episode ends with a similar action scene.

If I recall correctly they're both epi 4 endings lol

No, tonight's was cool but not even close to the mastery of last year's one shot. That thing was a pure as filmmaking gets. No wasted time. Every bit was essential. That's what I don't like about this season. Just conventional storytelling. Oh, hey look an establishing shot! It all looks like stock footage until one of the stars shows us on screen. I'd expect that on NBC or something but this is HBO! It should feel different.

And seriously, Fat Cop, what were you even doing? That was just embarrassing cop work.

Don't really like the idea of how they're going with the same "flow" of events as last season (one take shot vs. street shootout). Also like in last season, I think there's going to be a jump in time in the next episode. In the preview you Ray's stache is gone and Ani has a different uniform. Only thing holding me on to this season is the possibility of seeing Vince Vaughn's wife's tits.

And Taylor Kitch's story is just lol, he's such a bland character. lol'd hard when he woke up and realized he blacked out and booty-called his operation brokeback mountain friend

that white dress at the end :victory:

The only story worth following is Colin Farrell's.

Gotta give him credit, he was cool as a cucumber during and after the shootout.

http://i.imgur.com/2puWbkz.jpg

His character is a war veteran (and I think he has scars from it) so I'd hope he's pretty relaxed after a firefight

Yeah something about this new season. It doesn't draw me in. A lot of the story telling, is rather meh.

a few things that bug me about this season:

-that emo girl who sings at the bar. shit is so depressing - no wonder the place is empty!
-the way vince vaughn speaks - classic example of "over" acting
-that emo girl who sings at the bar