The Volvo V90 AWD is supposed to be rated for 3,500lbs over here. Apparently you can get some lightweight car trailers that are ~700lbs. So you could maybe squeak a 2,800lb car on there but it'd be close.

Realistically you're probably looking at something at least the size of a 4Runner rated for 5,000lb, but then you need to do a lot of racing to make up for your daily now being boring as hell to drive.

Or you get another fun car to daily but now you're up to 3 vehicles + a trailer and all but 1 of those things is just sitting 95% of the time.

start with karting at greg moore, this is a much cheaper price point to enter to learn actual wheel to wheel.

there's so much more to it than showing up, being able to drive at the limit in a sprint, while hitting brake points and not missing apexes and dealing with tire deg, while watching for traffic and setting up passes.

you will never learn this shit at a hpde

sim is the other place, but it doesnt completely fill the fatigue, physical stress, nerves when the heat is on.

Great weekend at Canadian Tire Motorsport Park at the June DE with PCA UCR with 137 cars on track.

Weather and track conditions were favourable. I kept my tire pressure relatively consistent throughout the weekend.

Got black flagged on Saturday morning after a 180 degree spin, facing traffic. Took Turn 9 with too much speed and didn't brake to shift the weight up front, rear end snapped, hit the dirt and grass and was probably 1 metre away from the wall. I got really lucky.

Second incident happened today taking Turn 8. Trail braked into the turn and added maintenance throttle to maintain balance then all of the sudden went sideways 90 degree. Cars behind me also went sideways. Turns out someone in front of us dumped coolant on the track. Not fun.

Despite the brown pants moments, it was a great weekend. Looking forward to August DE.

Edit: Forgot to mention we did the entire track walk last night. Amazing how you see and feel the track from a different perspective. Track walks expose all the bumps, hills, curves, and crests that you can't see while you're driving and helps you use as much of the track as possible to hit your lines better and also where NOT to drive in certain situations (i.e. if you run out of track, or it's raining.) If you guys ever get to walk a track, I highly encourage it. Benefit for us was the IMSA race was held at CTMP last week so all the scrape marks from their turns and racing lines were visible.

Anyone go to cars on ice in ashcroft?

Review?

ill just leave this here for dukes

https://www.pff.de/wcf/_data/public/...c-variant.webp

Hi I help run it.

Tons of fun, unique tracks, unique experience. Get a lot of skill doing it on a surface unlike any other. Weather can suck sometime, or it can be amazing bluebird skies.

Small town lodgings so be prepared for crappy motels.

You probably want to do the lapping on ice/ice attack sessions not auto-x on ice, I know how you feel about auto-x. The ice lapping/ice attack is amazing, you basically get a track session on ice. Hitting 100-120kph on ice kinda scary sometimes haha.

Not that much chance of damaging your car unless you go absolutely stupid.

An experience you won't get elsewhere in BC unless you go to Peace River lol.

Let me know if you have specific questions.

hahaha that's the goal (or maybe not.)

I'd be happy with a Lexus RC-F as a track day vehicle. No need for towing or any of this nonsense. :ilied:

So I tried this out on 2 wheels at Ridge... holy shit it's scary :lol

https://i.imgur.com/KpsOKLu.jpeg

I went to VIMC again... track day #3.. just kidding. Went to go hang out with RoastPuff, Gerbs, J.C., MaceWindu and a few other friends. I learned how to chill out, get car sick, and have fun at the track without actually driving LOL.

A few things that I noticed while sitting in with people with limited amount of track experience - sim time makes all the difference of confidence, but sim time can also contribute to overdriving. While sims can help build the habits, there's also no tire wear, so I found that people who had a lot of sim time would ignore or work through understeer instead of dialing back, cooling down and adjusting line to reduce understeer.

The difference between the really fast drivers and the rest of us ultimately comes down to line positioning, smooth inputs, and looking further ahead. It was great to sit with a variety of people, those who asked for pointers (and then shaved time) and those who I just sat in with to experience (insane).

Smooth is fast.

Sims have their place but it will never introduce real experiences like fatigue, heat, and whatnot.

Went to VIMC, as BIC said.

Was a frustrating event for me, I couldn't really string together a good lap. I think only going to each track once or twice a year really slows you down because you can't memorize the track as well as you should, and you spend the morning re-learning the track.

Afternoon got hot so never really got much faster, and then my brake's lower bleeders (Wilwood's designs have 4 bleeders to allow for use in either orientation/direction) started weeping so that was it for the day.

VIMC is tricky. I found the final set of corners before the front straight particularly tough. I want to say it's the M3's fault to be too long, but realistically I just under or over rotate all the time entering the sequence. My line and braking is also not consistent.

How much prep are you putting into the weekend before you go? I ask this because I think mental prep and visualization can be key to extracting the most out of what is a fairly expensive day.

Before going to a track, even if I've been multiple times, I usually spend a couple days before looking through youtube for onboards. I try to find videos with range of cars and assess the skill of the driver. Once I've found a good reference lap and remind myself of the correct line choice I drill down on smaller details. First and foremost is sight lines, specifically corner exit visual references.

The night before and in the morning (usually in the shower) I go through the lap in my head. Lap one is about picking up flag stations, assessing if the visual references are correct and then adding speed after.

Rich

I watched a bunch of onboards, but the past while has been crazy busy so not all that much prep to be honest. Didn't manage to make it out to Axon to do some sim work.

I wish I had more time but my dad's Benz escapades is making me tear my hair out. Old man nearly put gas into the diesel.

T 16-18
Track left, Traffic light hard brake.
Take rumble at 85
Try and take continuous turn into 17 rumble at 65-70kh
Cut 18 rumble at 60 and stay left

T 19
Steady , slow 55kh and early entry , track left for early apex. Once track left apply throttle to get run into 19 apex and full throttle as soon as apex/steady car

I should be able to apply throttle earlier than what I do exiting the final corner, but the fear of the wall in a high HP RWD is real. The line probably needs some fixing as well.

I see some ppl going ALL THE WAY OFF the strips entering the final corner, almost intruding into the pit entrance lane., which seems kind of insane.

I am thinking of getting a GPS tracker next year to gain some data. I'm doing this mostly by feel. I am happy with a 1:26.9 but I think there's easily another second on the table with just line correction and being able to complete a lap without errors.

As Kodamu always says - walls don't move

My RaceBox Mini has been really useful combined with RaceChrono Pro, finally managed to figure out the overlay/compare feature with someone else's lap and I can see that I am overslowing/not carrying enough speed into the corners. I am roughly 10-15kph down on corner entry vs this other S2K driver, even though my peak speeds are higher than his overall.

Bad habits to unlearn I guess.

What's your apex V max in comparsion?

Heh like this example over the weekend


3min 55sec mark

if you treat autox course walks with seriousness, it'll teach you to learn a course quickly i usually only need 1 walk/driven lap to memorize a new track or autox course.

Also complete what Vancouver240sx said before hand as well. I usually study a new track via youtube like he says and it gets me 90% of the way with the first morning warm up laps to cement it into my memory.

I'd do this at autox , i did it during my first year, and also really practiced getting my best lap within 3 tries. This really helps me quickly to be on pace on track.

1st walk to see shape of course
2nd walk to imagine where the car will be, brake points, throttle points, looking ahead, reference points
3rd fine tuning
4th/5th to really cement it in.

or having someone drive your car for you and simply copying works too, during my first year of autox i'd ask all the fast guys to do a lap and then i'd just replicate. Eventually you just are able to do it on your own and develop your own style.

Maybe I'm just a shitty and slow driver. :(

Your ceramic coating says otherwise. :D

It's the tune!

I doubt thats it man. But the really fast guys (aliens) prepare aggressively and are usually hyper self critical. At autox or on track; lap 1 is spent exploring the limits. I usually start by feeling out the front end grip on corner entry, basically asking "can I make the apex?" then build from there.

Also going over the limit is good sometimes, just not into those walls that dont move.

Rich