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Gotcha, so... Tesla: 20-40c/kwh City of Vancouver wants 26c/minute at 62kW, about 26c/kw BC Hydro: 35c/kwh Petro Canada wants 50c/minute at 50kW, about 50c/kw Journie station: 65c/kwh So for local public stations, 30c/kw at 5.6km/kw puts you at $5/100km, or like 2.7L/100km... amazing. Even for highway trips 4.6km/kw at a more expensive charger it's still like 6L/100km |
Yeah I have a model Y and I’ll never use it for road trips. Dont care about superchargers when you have to proactively plan your charges or cant go to rural areas. I rented a diesel suburban and on the highway I got 7L/100km at 100km/h. |
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I think the days of "broken chargers" are a lot less common now. EvGo and Electrify America have 4+ chargers at most malls and highway rest stops. You do pay dearly for them at 56c USD per kWh. Access to parking lots where the cheaper ChargePoint DC fast chargers are is a lot more vafriable tho. |
Now they need to start solving the emerging problem of crackheads cutting all the charging station cables for copper.... can't leave anything even remotely nice just sitting around anymore without someone wanting to wreck it. |
Shell's "sky-EV" tech in Seattle's pretty cool They have "curbside" chargers where the cables come down from the power lines in the sky when you activate a charging session Pretty fast L2 chargers (9.6kw instead of the usual 6.3 with chargepoint) and .21/kWh is hella cheap |
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LOL I didn't even know a diesel Suburban existed!! |
Diesel Wrangler and F150 were discontinued because of how problematic they were. GM's V8s keep blowing their valvetrains so the diesel might be the choice. Occasional regen / cooling system glitches seem pretty mild compared to 5.3/6.2 problems. |
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My friend's townhouse has a SWTCH charging station installed on his underground parking stall - is it essentially just a company that sets up the charging infrastructure for the strata and charges the user for using it? |
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Pass+ would've been $7 to reduce charging cost to .44-.47/kWh |
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2 things: 1) this has a 16.5 gallon gas tank, most Toyota hybrids have a smaller one (10-11 gallons) 2) China uses the domestic CLTC range estimate, which prioritizes slow speed, start-stop city traffic, which is more prevalent in China. It leads to inflated numbers for EVs and hybrid vehicles vs. ICE because those cars are very efficient in that kind of use thanks to brake regen, while being much less so on the highway like the EPA tests at. 2100km CLTC on a PHEV/BEV is more like 1400KM or so on EPA combined. 3) If you take the Corolla Hybrid's combined fuel economy and multiply by 16.5 gallons, it already does 1400KM. Passat diesel did like 1300km back in 2015. tldr big gas tank |
^not really... there's a couple chinese tests involving mixed hwy speed (averaging 90km/h) and stop and go traffic, also driving from low elevation to higher elevation location, car even did 2409km in one test...you can say BYD paid them, but once the cars hit the street, we shall see their real range is, I doubt it will be far from what they claim, BYD is the biggest EV automaker in the world for a reason. Even if you give corolla hybrid or the passat diesel the same size gas tank, their ranges will still be lower than this BYD at least from what they claim. hopefully real world test proves it. And all of that for under $15k USD, that is a no brainer price in China or in NA, but we know they won't be allowed here |
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I wonder how much effort they’ve put into other parts of the car like crash structures. My TAs at school worked on the Cadillac CT6 and saved a 100+ lbs out of the rear crash structure |
I'm a glutton for punishment, so I booked a Model 3 from Avis for a YVR > SEA > YVR day trip. $84 CAD for the rental is maybe $20 more than what I'd pay for gas to drive 450km. I'm expecting a J1772 adapter but don't expect to have a CCS adapter provided. Supercharger rates are ~.3-.48/kWh in Seattle. |
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Looking at BYD blade battery, individual cells are replaceable which is really good. Toyota made a really big deal about hitting 40/41% thermal efficiency on their Dynamic Force motors. If BYD really did hit 46%, that's insane. Crash structure wise ... that stuff all adds weight |
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https://www.youtube.com/@EuroNCAP_forsafercars/videos Linking the first 3 Chinese vehicles on their channel here: and some BYDs: |
Looking at the crash test, Euro NCAP is a LOT easier. Euro NCAP Frontal crash is 50% overlap at 50kmh This is like the old 40% overlap at 50kmh that cars did well at since like the late 2000s. IIHS small overlap is 25% overlap at 64kmh. That's 60% more kinetic energy concentrated on half the area. Same with the side crash, EuroNCAP are doing 50kmh, 3100 lb barrier IIHS are doing 59kmh, 4200lb barrier. That's 80%+ more kinetic energy All that said, EVs should be far easier to design crash structures for since they've got more 'room' to crumple and absorb force |
Spotted a VW ID Buzz on the road with BC plates. It's pretty wild looking in person, big electric toaster box on wheels. https://i.imgur.com/pnRXLs9.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/uYPLi5M.jpeg |
Omg me wanty !!!!! |
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