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Old 07-05-2019, 07:37 PM   #76
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Just picked up a Rav4 Hybrid the other day. Considering it shares a platform with the Camry, it's surprisingly nimble for an SUV. With my commute between Surrey and Langley, I'm pulling in 5.7L/100km, so I'm looking forward to getting some real drives in to test the range.

Being that it's $1400 difference between a gas and a hybrid, the break-even is insanely short.
Nice choice! I was on a budget when I picked up the Corolla Hybrid, and if I had a little more room to play with, I would definitely consider the Rav 4 Hybrid or Camry Hybrid.

Right now, I'm racking in 4.2L/100km in all city Richmond driving, and a full tank of gas equates to 1050 km of range until empty.
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If you go on the Tesla website they have a chart that shows you how many Km's you can drive after charging for an hour at different amps

So 30 amp breaker, max output would be 24amps , 5.7kW and 35 kilometers of range every hour (kph)
Ah........... "I see!" said the blind man.

Then perhaps the good folks over at Tesla, in their infinite wisdom, can come up with something better, so as not to confuse those who are not in the know.......


Perhaps KRPH - - - Kilometre Range Per Hour.

Or some other abbreviation. Better yet, an acronym of some kind. They are so crafty, after all...............


Edit: I know......... KORPH and MORPH - - Miles Of Range Per Hour............ tee hee
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Nice choice! I was on a budget when I picked up the Corolla Hybrid, and if I had a little more room to play with, I would definitely consider the Rav 4 Hybrid or Camry Hybrid.

Right now, I'm racking in 4.2L/100km in all city Richmond driving, and a full tank of gas equates to 1050 km of range until empty.
My mom is also getting great fuel economy on her 19 RAV4 hybrid.. her car shows 5.9l and she has about 1600 Km and itís mostly local driving and crossing Knight street bridge.

My dad also downsized from his Lexus RX350 down to a Corolla hyrbid too recently and itís a big change from his v6.
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Not being picky, but you guys referring to kWh?

As in kilowatt per hour. KPH, I think stands for kilometres per hour, a measure of speed.

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When a tesla is charging it shows you how many kilometers you are adding to the car per hour so yeah, KPH is applicable.
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When a tesla is charging it shows you how many kilometers you are adding to the car per hour so yeah, KPH is applicable.
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Nice choice! I was on a budget when I picked up the Corolla Hybrid, and if I had a little more room to play with, I would definitely consider the Rav 4 Hybrid or Camry Hybrid.

Right now, I'm racking in 4.2L/100km in all city Richmond driving, and a full tank of gas equates to 1050 km of range until empty.
With the current climate in Vancouver for modified cars, and my legs failing from old sports injuries, I've moved on from driving a heatscore as a daily. I can probably do something more low key with a Rav and not stick out.

Have you given Entune a try yet? It seems to be serviceable until AA gets added on top of ACP.
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went to take a look at the new rav4 hybrid and liked how it drove and looked inside and out.
just put down a deposit on a rav4 hybrid. didn't know the wait for one was 5-6months. was lucky enough for the dealership to have a shipment of limited trim coming in with the color i wanted so wait now is about 2 months wait.
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With the current climate in Vancouver for modified cars, and my legs failing from old sports injuries, I've moved on from driving a heatscore as a daily. I can probably do something more low key with a Rav and not stick out.

Have you given Entune a try yet? It seems to be serviceable until AA gets added on top of ACP.
Personally, I haven't touched Entune yet. The Corolla hybrid doesn't come with embedded navigation (not even top trim), and I've been using google maps with Bluetooth most of the time.

Although, I should try out the Entune scout GPS link...
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Pretty new to the electric car game, been thinking of adding a second vehicle to my fleet.

Currently I ride an e-bike to work, but since winter is coming up, I been thinking of getting a used Nissan Leaf, my commute to work is 5.1KM each way, so range anxiety wont be a concern, even in the few super cold days in the year.

Now I been looking at the 2012/2013 Nissan leafs (abt 70k to 80k on the odo) because they are hovering right around 10k mark. I know for most of them the battery warranty is about to expire, but realistically, is there anything I should really be worried about? Or watch out for?

I am looking to keep the car for the next 5 to 6 years, most likely putting less than 50k km in total.

What do you guys think?
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Pretty new to the electric car game, been thinking of adding a second vehicle to my fleet.

Currently I ride an e-bike to work, but since winter is coming up, I been thinking of getting a used Nissan Leaf, my commute to work is 5.1KM each way, so range anxiety wont be a concern, even in the few super cold days in the year.

Now I been looking at the 2012/2013 Nissan leafs (abt 70k to 80k on the odo) because they are hovering right around 10k mark. I know for most of them the battery warranty is about to expire, but realistically, is there anything I should really be worried about? Or watch out for?

I am looking to keep the car for the next 5 to 6 years, most likely putting less than 50k km in total.

What do you guys think?
Where do you think you will be charging teh car?
I own an 18, so not sure what there is to look out for in a 12/13 but a place to charge it is very important thing to think about.
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The older models suffer from battery degradation, big time.

Range and time it takes to charge changes so much. Good news is, Nissan has a battery upgrade programme. Not sure if it applies to your Leaf's year.

You definitely need a Level 2 charger at home. It requires 240 volt. Unless you don't mind plugging 110 V and waiting hours on end to have it charg super slow. If your Leaf has Level 3 (DC Fast Charge), then I guess you'll be spending time at the Superstores around the city. Damn, more EV's to compete with, gulolol.


If you do decide to go electric and you've really thought long and hard about it, at least ten times............ then get the Plug Share app and a few cards. You will need them at the charging stations. You can use the apps from your phone to activate the chargers, but there are times you have poor to no cell service. Cards are the best way to go. Much faster. I have most of them. ChargePoint, Flo, BC Hydro, and Greenlots. They cost ten bucks or so each, but worth it. Superstore chargers are free, for the most part, and don't require a card. A few do, however. I've been at this game for nearly five years. You really need to think about this. It is not for everybody. Did I mention you really, really need to think about this................
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I feel like such a pioneer........... bought my first EV back in 2014. Very little to no charging stations like now. Range anxiety.......... nearly killed me. That's no longer the case. I'm looking at going with a Niro or a Kona full elective. The Soul EV that's coming out looks promising. I keep running into this guy who drives a Jaguar all elective. Damn, that thing is sexy as all hell. All we need is IG in the photoshoot, gulolol.
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$45k for a civic? only type r owners fall for that range is sad too

it does look super fun though...rwd + crazy tight turning radius
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Maybe get Toyota to join the fun? This is what EV cars need.
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I was talking to a colleague about using his Model 3 to go see a client in Langley (cause I don't wanna drive in rush hour and auto pilot would be cool). He declined cause he has to make sure he has enough charge.

Apparently all stratas in Richmond don't allow for electric car charging. Anyone else that lives with strata, have an issue with this?
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^^ I would like to know too, where are you guys charging or if you have to fight for chargers? If I live in a condo can I just plug it into the outlet next too my spot?
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^^ I would like to know too, where are you guys charging or if you have to fight for chargers? If I live in a condo can I just plug it into the outlet next too my spot?
Technically, yes you can. However, it will charge at a very slow rate.

I charge at home 95% of the time and the few times I haven't I didn't have to wait to charge.

I have seen someone park their Chevy Volt at the free charger at a community centre in Langley and get driven away by someone else so their car can charge for free.
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There's really no need to fight for chargers if you work smart. If you bought an EV and cannot find charging, then you didn't think it through before buying one. I said this many times. Think about it before you decide. Think, think, think, then think some more. EV's are not for everyone. I own a house and installed a level 2 (240V) charger in the garage. I get a full charge from zero to 100% in 4 to 5 hours. On level 1 (110 volt), it takes 11 hours. On level 3 (DC Fast Charge 440 volt), I charge to 80% from zero in 25 to 30 minutes. I've never gone down to zero, so it usually take 15 to 20 minutes. You cannot have a level 3 charger in a residential or even a condo. It is very, very expensive, plus way too much voltage. A decent plug-in, level 2 charger can be had for $365.00 US. You just need a 240 dryer or stove outlet nearby. Most chargers that are plug-in type, come with a 25ft cord. Ideally, a hard wired charger is the best choice, but not necessary.

New condos in certain municipalities, by law, have to have level 2 chargers installed somewhere on the property, but if you live in an older one, you are shit out of luck. Most strata councils frown upon any kind of charging, even 110. Everything from being worried about cost to cause of fire. Even if there's proof it'll increase property value and appeal. Chargers and having to manage them in a fair manner is a more complicated matter than most are willing to spend their time on.

My son has an older EV that does not have a level 3 connector. He is stuck with level 2 or level 1. No problem when he used to live at home. He moved out and into a condo not that long ago. There's no charging allowed in the condo. Not even for electric bikes. Anyhow, there's no charger where he works, either. He is hooped as it takes five hours to charge the darn thing when he's down in three or so days. Solution? He comes home to charge. My EV has a level 3 connection, so when I'm in a good mood, I go charge the EV at one of the DC Fast Chargers and swap cars with him at his workplace. I drop mine off and take his back home. By the time he's finished work, his car is fully charged. On top of that, good ol' dad, makes him dinner. Why do I do this? I have an ulterior motive. IF he didn't need the charge, i would never see number one son. Like ever. Well, unless it's Xmas or a family BBQ. So this is a blessing for me.

In a nutshell, if you don't have a house or live in a condo with no charging allowed, don't get an electric car. If you're retired like me, then it is very doable. Charging stations are empty during the day, as most people are at work. There are plenty of free level 3 chargers out there, but they're busy, busy, busy in the afternoon and evenings. Line ups of three to four cars. More on this later.................
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Technically, yes you can. However, it will charge at a very slow rate.

I charge at home 95% of the time and the few times I haven't I didn't have to wait to charge.

I have seen someone park their Chevy Volt at the free charger at a community centre in Langley and get driven away by someone else so their car can charge for free.
Yeah, happens at Grand Villa all the fucking time. There's this one Tesla bitch who gets picked up at night by his buddy and gets dropped off in the morning. His EV is charged overnight. Then there's this C-Lai who works up the street from Grand Villa. She parks and walks up the street to her workplace. She did this for months, until I reported her. Another freaking dumb thing is, the casino has a free shuttle service to and from the casino and Metrotown and Brentwood. Guess what, these assholes charge their car at Grand Villa while they shop at Brentwood or Metrotown. I don't bother charging there anymore, but there are people who really need to charge. Like out of towners. It's not fair. None of the cars charging there are doing it legit. Parq Casino does it right. If you don't gamble there, you don't get to charge or park in their lot for free. I do, so free charge works. Well, sometimes it costs me way more, lol.


Teslas take forever to charge on level 2. Anyway, I have my secret charging locations/stations. I'm doing fine.



Oh, I have gas cars, too............
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