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05-31-2017, 11:43 PM
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BC Minimum Wage Increase to $15/hr
This is encouraging people to not go to school and not to further themselves. This is saying that a Cineplex worker will make $15 per hour. Coming from someone who's worked there before, this is ridiculous. This is also saying that if you worked hard/educated yourself to get where you are today, well too bad, the government is giving everyone else a free pass.
If I learned anything from economics, we know that as cost of labour goes up, demand for labour goes down. We also know that as cost of labour goes up, so does prices. This is known as cost-push inflation. The result? Small businesses go out of business. Since they will be affected by the wage increase more than large businesses, they will have to increase their prices, and will not be able to compete (on a price standpoint).
In addition, if anyone thinks the Gov actually cares about you, a higher income means higher income taxes, cpp, ei, etc.
For those people arguing about how businesses have to give a livable wage, well, have you considered that many businesses offer non-monetary benefits (ie. extended health/dental/vision/chiro plans). Instead of a higher minimum wage, how about mandating better benefits?
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05-31-2017, 11:48 PM
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I disagree, you can't live here on $15 an hour, so motivation to further oneself is still there. This just helps pay for more stuff while you go to school and brings minimum wage in line with inflation over the years.
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06-01-2017, 01:18 AM
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Growing up, I learned that minimum wage jobs weren't just about the wage. It was about the life skills that come with the job. You're typically working in the fire with pitchforks up your ass. You either give it your all or run away like a pussy.
You weren't supposed to stay at the min. wage level. You use it to elevate yourself towards a better career with better pay but also to be a better contributor to society. Pay taxes, buy things, take trips etc.
Living wage in this city is far above $20 / hour so even at $15 / hour, you're still behind the 8-ball.
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06-01-2017, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by GS8 You weren't supposed to stay at the min. wage level. You use it to elevate yourself towards a better career with better pay but also to be a better contributor to society. Pay taxes, buy things, take trips etc. | ^truth
I was trying to get this point across to some of my friends back in highschool graduation days. They were getting too comfortable with higher-than-normal entry jobs.
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06-01-2017, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 68style I disagree, you can't live here on $15 an hour, so motivation to further oneself is still there. This just helps pay for more stuff while you go to school and brings minimum wage in line with inflation over the years. | What about jobs or people who are currently making 15 to 17 dollars that require some sort of skills? Will their wages goes up as well? Most likely not. So why work harder/get some form of education if people can working at McDonalds with no training. Or will these people say fuck it I am going to apply for the NEW MIN wage now since the job itself will be much easier. What do you think that will do to do people who just enter the force work?
Min wage was never meant to be a living wage. Is mainly for people to learn the skills the they need to get other better jobs/ is for students making some money while going to school. Heck if people really want to walk away from Min wage. Just want into any construction site and ask for a job. Sure is physical but I guarantee it is more than min wage. People just don't want to coz is too hard.
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06-01-2017, 06:58 AM
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14 dolla balla at churches chicken already made this wage tho.
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06-01-2017, 08:33 AM
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If you are a server at $15 dollar min wage plus tip equals some good coin.
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06-01-2017, 08:34 AM
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$19 dolla balla is the new 14 dolla balla
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06-01-2017, 08:34 AM
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This will lead to the resurrection of revscene old?
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06-01-2017, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by teggy604 If you are a server at $15 dollar min wage plus tip equals some good coin. | Servers actually make less than minimum, and it's legal. For example, my friend at matsuyama makes $9/hr but after tips, he makes about $20-$25/hr varying per night. Roughly 40K in annual income
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06-01-2017, 08:49 AM
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Price of everything will go up, it won't happen over night but it will happen. In 2 years people making the minimum $15 an hour will be no further ahead because that $5 Cheeseburger will now cost $6.50 and that $25.00 tee shirt is now going to be $32.00. If you think retailers are going to absorb that hit you're delusional it will all be passed along.
In the meantime some of those retailers currently on the cusp of being profitable will go under before the transition is complete so to some of those minimum wage employees congrats you got a raise but bummer because you no longer have a job.
I'm basing this on the assumption they are changing it over night? I hope it's phased for the least amount of damage, if they raise it a $1 a year over 4 years it would have less impact then just pushing it right to $15.
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06-01-2017, 08:50 AM
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I don't fucking get it...
$15 dollars, your mcdicks work lunch is now $15
Your groceries will go up
everything you need to buy will go up
Making it easier for workers to unionize... look, now your shitty $15/hr job has union dues
Helping the lower class my ass.
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06-01-2017, 08:54 AM
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whatever happened to places with similar minimum wage?
curious to see what happened with their economies long term
though i can't recall one off the top of my head
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06-01-2017, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 6o4__boi whatever happened to places with similar minimum wage?
curious to see what happened with their economies long term
though i can't recall one off the top of my head | Well Ontario implemented it, and on the short term, small businesses are getting crushed, and people are losing jobs
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Don't worry guys, $400 annual rebate for renters will solve this. 
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Read the article................... it is not going to happen tomorrow or next week or next month. It's a path to 15.
The sky will not fall just yet.
Businesses will have time to adjust, be more creative, whathaveyou.
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06-01-2017, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MG1 Read the article................... it is not going to happen tomorrow or next week or next month. It's a path to 15.
The sky will not fall just yet.
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$11.40 currently to $11.60 in October. Then, the government plans to bump it up to $14 an hour on Jan. 1, 2018 and $15 the following year
| That's Ontarios plan. Tell any manufacturing sector to raise its prices by 20-30% within two years... any out of province customers will tell you to fuck off. 
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goddamn...quick google search shows Australia has $17 minimum wage lol https://www.mises.ca/the-minimum-wag...-in-australia/
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i don't see why people are bitching about this
it will probably come into effect by 2019/2020. by then, I doubt $15 will really be worth that much more than $10 today. 
i dont know about canada but the current real value of the us minimum wage is actually lower than in the 60s-80s
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06-01-2017, 09:34 AM
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Let's give businesses all huge tax breaks and watch how fast they pass the extra money onto consumers! Oh they just pocket it? Damn.
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06-01-2017, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkyMark Let's give businesses all huge tax breaks and watch how fast they pass the extra money onto consumers! Oh they just pocket it? Damn. | obviously they won't, but they may hire and extra person or 2 for help if they think they can afford it. Not all businesses, but some which is better than none.
With minimum wage going up to $15/hr, this will lead to less jobs and higher prices for everyone
So making minimum wage "catch up" to inflation will actually cause more inflation. Anyone that has taken a basic Econ class should realize that.
As for people not being able to afford to live in Vancouver....well, don't live in Vancouver then?
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Originally Posted by Sid Vicious i don't see why people are bitching about this
it will probably come into effect by 2019/2020. by then, I doubt $15 will really be worth that much more than $10 today.
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i dont know about canada but the current real value of the us minimum wage is actually lower than in the 60s-80s | I agree. I remember when min wage was $5 and banh mi was $2 and loaded with meat and veg.
Today min wage is $10 and the subs are $5 and smaller. min wage / banh mi ratio is shrinking  | |
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06-01-2017, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by BIC_BAWS BC Minimum Wage Increase to $15/hr
This is encouraging people to not go to school and not to further themselves. This is saying that a Cineplex worker will make $15 per hour | Schooling doesn't always get people further, in alot of cases it only gets people further into debt
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