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Old 10-02-2017, 02:03 PM   #51
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When is the last time a good guy with a gun has stopped a bad guy with a gun in Canada?
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Stephen Paddock: Vegas suspect a gambler and ex-accountant - BBC News

64 yr old retired wealrhy accountant
His father was once the most wanted man by the fbi for bank robberies and escaping prison

Room was full of ammo and guns
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I think Manic is asking when the last time a private citizen armed with a gun took out a bad guy.

Law enforcement does this on a daily basis I'm guessing
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-interesting article about U.S. gun culture:

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When is the last time a good guy with a gun has stopped a bad guy with a gun in Canada?
When I was a kid my dad stopped a guy who had a gun(had tried to kill someone else), but he did so without a gun. Would of been a lot easier to just shoot him.
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When is the last time a good guy with a gun has stopped a bad guy with a gun in Canada?
who was talking about canada?
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Don't ban guns because they're scared of government tyranny.

I'm afraid the bad guys will take more American lives than the government ever will.
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2017/06/27 Peel police responded to a 15 year old trying to steal a car with a BB gun and shot him from close range with an assault rifle.
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https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.wash...l-after-vegas/

Don’t be stupid the chance of any armed citizen stopping a mass gun Murder is ZERO.

The singer’s entourage were all packing, this being a country festival I bet a lot of people were packing too.

Let’s not discuss whether you will actually be able to take out someone with an automatic assault weapon with your concealed carry little hand gun.


Who in their right mind would even take out their firearm in a situation like this. It would be a great way to get your head pop off by the police.

The effectiveness of citizen sheepdog are made up propaganda by NRA and their supporters.
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Don’t be stupid the chance of any armed citizen stopping a mass gun Murder is ZERO.

The singer’s entourage were all packing, this being a country festival I bet a lot of people were packing too.

Let’s not discuss whether you will actually be able to take out someone with an automatic assault weapon with your concealed carry little hand gun.


Who in their right mind would even take out their firearm in a situation like this. It would be a great way to get your head pop off by the police.

The effectiveness of citizen sheepdog are made up propaganda by NRA and their supporters.
Who in the right mind would shoot some looney tune causing havoc? A gun owner who cherishes their family's life, their own life and/or other people's lives.

And the police won't shoot you if you take out the piece of shit before they get there, or holster your weapon when they arrive.

With the right marksmanship and taking strategic cover you can easily stop the threat even if they're using an automatic vs your pistol.

It is not propaganda, when's the last time you heard of anything like this happening in Texas?
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Could anyone even tell where the shots were coming from in the crowd? And then, as above, even if you located the shooter, that's a hell of a shot to try to make while trying to hide behind cover.
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Could anyone even tell where the shots were coming from in the crowd? And then, as above, even if you located the shooter, that's a hell of a shot to try to make while trying to hide behind cover.
This isn't like the movies. You fucking run when you hear shots being fired nearby
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Who in the right mind would shoot some looney tune causing havoc? A gun owner who cherishes their family's life, their own life and/or other people's lives.

And the police won't shoot you if you take out the piece of shit before they get there, or holster your weapon when they arrive.

With the right marksmanship and taking strategic cover you can easily stop the threat even if they're using an automatic vs your pistol.

It is not propaganda, when's the last time you heard of anything like this happening in Texas?
Fort Hood, 2014

4 killed, 14 injured. On a military base ...

Gunman shot himself.

Fort Hood, 2009.

13 killed, 32 injured. On a military base ...

Gunman was injured and sentenced to death.
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This isn't like the movies. You fucking run when you hear shots being fired nearby
According to hchang, you pull out your pistol and snipe the guy, so ...
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Fort Hood, 2014

4 killed, 14 injured. On a military base ...

Gunman shot himself.

Fort Hood, 2009.

13 killed, 32 injured. On a military base ...

Gunman was injured and sentenced to death.
Both of those shootings were done by a serviceman.
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According to hchang, you pull out your pistol and snipe the guy, so ...
I can't even do this in a video game let alone in real life. And I have a gun license
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According to hchang, you pull out your pistol and snipe the guy, so ...
Yes because all shootings are done across the street on the 32nd floor.

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^ take cover in a wide-open parking lot?
or behind plastic chairs in a classroom?

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It'll blow over and whittle away into the annals of history. The narrative will focus on "mental health" when in reality Americans should be having a frank/difficult discussion about gun rights. Its a like a broken record. Many more incidents like this will happen, because it would seem that these types of crimes are recurrent like clockwork.
i seriously forgot that the deadliest shooting occurred just last year
we've become so numb and accustomed to them

many Americans believe it's a divine right from god to bear arms...i don't believe we'll see new regulations in our lifetime if they can't even start a dialogue on the issue

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Yeah that's just what we need when there's a shooting going on, a bunch of other idiots shooting back in a crowded area. Let's not forget, not every gun owner is a trained professional that keeps calm and collected when shit goes down. While you might get the odd Jason Bourne in the crowd, the majority will be a bunch of Yosemite Sam's probably doing more harm than good.
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Who in the right mind would shoot some looney tune causing havoc? A gun owner who cherishes their family's life, their own life and/or other people's lives.

And the police won't shoot you if you take out the piece of shit before they get there, or holster your weapon when they arrive.

With the right marksmanship and taking strategic cover you can easily stop the threat even if they're using an automatic vs your pistol.

It is not propaganda, when's the last time you heard of anything like this happening in Texas?
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So Dan Bilzerian saw some girl get shot in the head, leaves and comes back with a rifle and helps defend and clear survivors out.

Mad respect

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Hold on for a second here with your call of duty pull out your side arm and 360 no scope across the map ideas.

The distance from the Mandalay tower to the concert venue is a bit over 400 yards. The effective range of a handgun is under 100 yards, in a good scenario. I dont think many civilians will have ever fired a handgun under a live fire panic filled situation. 9/10 people would be lucky to even hit the side of the hotel at that distance, let alone identify where the shots are coming from, and put one on target.



Secondly, gun control doesnt need to mean no guns. But unfortunately thats how this argument works. Anyone on the gun control side of the argument want it to be no guns, so anyone on the other side is forced to argue for no gun control.

Canada has a pretty good set of gun control laws, aside from a few details. It is a process to get your licence, you must take a course to do so, and you must pass a series of background checks. And then you cant really have any fun (good for mass shootings) firearms legally anyway. America needs some gun control reform to make it more difficult to get one, and more restrictions on the ones you can get, but a gun ban should not happen.

There are more of us gun owners on here than you'd think too. I dont think many of us own them incase we need to overthrow the government. Alot of us hunt, and shoot as a hobby. Are we all 'bad' people who should have our guns taken away?
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Who in the right mind would shoot some looney tune causing havoc? A gun owner who cherishes their family's life, their own life and/or other people's lives.

And the police won't shoot you if you take out the piece of shit before they get there, or holster your weapon when they arrive.

With the right marksmanship and taking strategic cover you can easily stop the threat even if they're using an automatic vs your pistol.

It is not propaganda, when's the last time you heard of anything like this happening in Texas?
HAHAHA you can't be serious! This isn't a Liam Neeson movie dude. The good guy doesn't do cartwheels through a bunch of shipping containers and kill the bad guy with a perfect headshot.
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