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Akinari 02-27-2020 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8975755)
I wasn’t aware of this
I take it it was absolutely slammed to the ground/obviously modified etc and not stock/oem+

Photo of said vehicle is on baldguy's Twitter. Was your typical driftslut S-chassis, zipties and all.

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Originally Posted by T4RAWR (Post 8975761)
Just out of curiosity did they specify what kind of law that lawyer practiced?

Automotive-related criminal law I believe based on what the guy said on the video. Roadside prohibition/DUI kind of stuff I suppose.

forcedot 02-27-2020 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Berzerker (Post 8975768)
Why is everyone driving in Sport mode in the city anyways? Genuinely curious as I don't know what the difference is over the other modes.

I'm so glad I got to live and participate in the Robson Street cruising days. Those days will never happen again.

Berz out.

Depends on the car. Some will open up the exhaust making it sound better, give it more power/torque, add burbles, change the throttle response, change the steering/suspension, etc.

On a tuned car you could be looking at the button doing a lot more such as switching between maps, removing top speed limiter, etc.

Akinari 02-27-2020 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by forcedot (Post 8975773)
Depends on the car. Some will open up the exhaust making it sound better, give it more power/torque, add burbles, change the throttle response, change the steering/suspension, etc.

On a tuned car you could be looking at the button doing a lot more such as switching between maps, removing top speed limiter, etc.

All my sport mode does is increase the fake induction noise coming through the speakers, make my steering hercules heavy, and hold the revs stupidly high. Definitely not comfortable to be using anywhere in the city :lawl:

xXSupa 02-27-2020 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Berzerker (Post 8975768)
Why is everyone driving in Sport mode in the city anyways? Genuinely curious as I don't know what the difference is over the other modes.

I'm so glad I got to live and participate in the Robson Street cruising days. Those days will never happen again.

Berz out.

forcedot pretty much nailed it. For when I feel like "spirited" driving, the overall response and change in steering/suspension gives it a different feel.

yray 02-27-2020 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dorian (Post 8975771)
windows down, tunes turned up, plate rattling from the subs in the trunk, yeah i remember those days.

:alone:my sub is built into the body

does that count

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Originally Posted by wing_woo (Post 8975753)
Just make sure they indicate that it passes MVA regs in BC as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramountcy_(Canada)

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In Canadian constitutional law, the doctrine of paramountcy establishes that where there is a conflict between valid provincial and federal laws, the federal law will prevail and the provincial law will be inoperative to the extent that it conflicts with the federal law. Unlike interjurisdictional immunity, which is concerned with the scope of the federal power, paramountcy deals with the way in which that power is exercised.

bcedhk 02-27-2020 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Berzerker (Post 8975768)
Why is everyone driving in Sport mode in the city anyways? Genuinely curious as I don't know what the difference is over the other modes.

Berz out.

Duh, to impress the ladies with my high revs when i cruise down Robson. :alone:

Berzerker 02-27-2020 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xXSupa (Post 8975776)
forcedot pretty much nailed it. For when I feel like "spirited" driving, the overall response and change in steering/suspension gives it a different feel.

Spirited driving in Vancouver City?

Not to sound like an old guy but if people in minivans are driving through traffic, changing lanes and such with out any issues, I don't think you need sport mode in your Bimmer to accomplish the same task.

Sport mode on the Highway will lower center of gravity (in some cars) and allow for passing power but c'mon driving through Vancouver using your paddle shifters to down gear burbling away is asking for unwanted attention.

Berz out.

MuckyBarnes 02-27-2020 03:23 PM

"Sport" is the default mode on my car and doesn't affect exhaust volume whatsoever. Its way too different from vehicle to vehicle for VPD to be saying anything about what's legal or not legal in Vancouver.

BaoTurbo 02-27-2020 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Snip3r (Post 8975741)
Exact same story as me, I complied because I thought it was going to end with a warning and "stay out of sport mode" but I was wrong. If I was let off with a warning I would have listened to him and not gone in sport mode anymore in the city... I had no idea it would result in a ticket of sorts, I've already filed a notice of dispute so we'll see how it goes.

It is not illegal to drive the car in sport mode. You bought the car, you can drive in whatever mode you want it to be in.

I sell Audi's, so should I start telling my customers that sport mode is illegal? Doesn't make any sense. FailFish

VR6GTI 02-27-2020 03:49 PM

According to the cops handing out VI's for stock cars, yes you should be telling them its illegal and their car might be ticketed and require a vehicle inspection

underscore 02-27-2020 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BaoTurbo (Post 8975788)
It is not illegal to drive the car in sport mode. You bought the car, you can drive in whatever mode you want it to be in.

I sell Audi's, so should I start telling my customers that sport mode is illegal? Doesn't make any sense. FailFish

It seems to depend on the mode/car since:

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Originally Posted by 320icar (Post 8974618)
That being said, out last night with 15 or so ///M cars, they all had the “optional m sport exhaust” and when they’re in race mode they are loud as fuck, especially with the exhaust popping and cracking and 100% deserve tickets for driving in track mode in the city

It sounds like more and more manufacturers are selling cars with features that aren't road legal.

xXSupa 02-27-2020 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Berzerker (Post 8975785)
Spirited driving in Vancouver City?

Not to sound like an old guy but if people in minivans are driving through traffic, changing lanes and such with out any issues, I don't think you need sport mode in your Bimmer to accomplish the same task.

Sport mode on the Highway will lower center of gravity (in some cars) and allow for passing power but c'mon driving through Vancouver using your paddle shifters to down gear burbling away is asking for unwanted attention.

Berz out.

Why doesn't everyone just get minivans if all cars drive the same then? I don't have a very good analogy for this, but imagine you're driving a BMW 328i versus a BMW M3. At the push of a button, your can can switch between the driving style of both vehicles. Light smooth ride for when you want comfort, and a stiffer more responsive ride when you want sporty.

TouringTeg 02-27-2020 05:59 PM

Sport mode on the 1M only changes the throttle response and that's it. There is no change to the sound whatsoever. To say sport mode is illegal is such BS.

!Aznboi128 02-27-2020 06:01 PM

In the M4 the 3 modes are efficiency, Sport and Sport plus.

Efficiency dulls the throttle to nothing, Sport is more of a regular mode and Sport plus is for all the burps.

bcrdukes 02-27-2020 06:56 PM

I guess VPD will have to VI and impound my dangerous Corolla iM when Sport Mode is enabled. The moment I enable Sport Mode, the Toyota ECU unleashes an additional 5HP of fury. Watch about, Main Street hipsters!

wing_woo 02-27-2020 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by yray (Post 8975777)

Yeah, I figured thats the case. Just stating what the officer tried using on me and the way Cain and company are enforcing things, wouldn't surprise me if they tried using that argument if you showed a letter stating it meets Transport Canada standards.

bcedhk 02-27-2020 08:22 PM

so why didn't they pull over all of those supercars they escorted at the children charity event? those lambo idle as loud as a sport mode BMW.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...-out-1.3013296

FYI, this is traffic cop is still around giving out VI. wonder if he'll do the same thing again when a driver tries to test his short fuse.

acurael 02-27-2020 09:35 PM

Looks like Porsche club is setting a meeting this Saturday with VPD. Or at least invited them. Saw it on Facebook. For those interested

twitchyzero 02-27-2020 11:09 PM

everything i own is 4-cyl without any driving modes :alone:

Manic! 02-28-2020 12:26 AM

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I posted a video on my YouTube channel for you all to share throughout the car communities of the Lower Mainland. Feel free to share the link with every group you know so that we may all stand together and finally make a difference. Thank you for everyone's ongoing support!!!

ssjGoku69 02-28-2020 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8975853)
everything i own is 4-cyl without any driving modes :alone:

the only mode avail on my 4cyl is an eco mode :alone:

bcrdukes 02-28-2020 09:22 AM

haha for what its worth, my default, my Corolla is in Eco mode, so its as slow as it can be. :p Enabling Sport mode..feel the (lack of) torque!

Any way on a more serious note, I was really hoping to bring my boxster back to Vancouver from Toronto (since i'm spending more time in Vancouver lately.) Despite it being stock, and that it is an "S" model, i fear being VI'd by VPD. I'm going to let this simmer down until the Porsche guys (or whoever is out there) will deal with the VPD on this Vi tirade. :okay:

JSALES 02-28-2020 09:50 AM

From the Porsche Club group on fb

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A PUBLIC FORUM TO ADDRESS THE GROWING VEHICLE INSPECTION ISSUE... #VPD
Dear Mayor Kennedy Stewart, Chief Constable Palmer, Deputy Chief Constable Chow, Superintendent Eely, Inspector Andersen, Sergeant Roed,

Police are first and foremost respected members of our community. We trust that you to carry out your work fairly and judiciously. We salute your service so it brings us no joy to address you on this public forum.

Your silence has been deafening. It’s been over a week since we invited you to meet with us. Since then many leaders of essentially every car club in Vancouver - representing every automotive brand have reached out to us to express their interest in joining our conversation with you. In addition, over 450 people (mostly from Vancouver) have shared our original Facebook post which has reached over 70,000 people.

We endeavour to engage in a candid and productive conversation with you. Our objective remains to learn how we as law-abiding motorists and consumers of federally approved unmodified cars can avoid receiving undeserved traffic violations and unwarranted notice and orders when driving in the City of Vancouver from the Vancouver Police Department. This meeting is invaluable as it will help build trust and understanding on both sides.

“Every kind of peaceful cooperation among men is primarily based on mutual trust and only secondarily on institutions such as courts of justice and police.”
— Albert Einstein

Please understand that there are consequences to your actions. Accept that the Vancouver Police Department takes money every time an innocent motorist pays a frivolous and undeserved fine. Acknowledge that innocent motorists suffer further harm from the Vancouver Police Department as their ICBC insurance premiums increase (for all their vehicles) because of the 3 demerit points (issued for unnecessary noise violations). To impel their damages, to execute compliance on your notice and orders (especially those calling for full vehicle inspections) takes time and further inconveniences innocent motorists while costing them money. Realize that challenging frivolous tickets in court further inconvenience innocent motorists, they also waste the court’s time and ultimately cost taxpayers money. Your officers benefit as they are paid extra wages, sometimes at overtime rates to attend court.

Again we extend our request to meet with you or your representatives from the Vancouver Police Department in good faith. Please kindly meet us this coming Saturday morning at 9am on February 29th 2020 at the Hollyburn Country Club located at 950 Cross Creek Road, West Vancouver, BC V7S 2S5. Should you require transportation, one of our members will happily drive you to the club and back to a VPD station of your choice. We look forward to meeting with you soon.

*We invite leaders of Vancouver’s car clubs and the media to join us. Please kindly private message us if you wish to attend. Thank you very much.

We are all part of the vibrant community of Vancouver so we kindly ask that all those who attend be respectful of the police officers who possess the fairness to attend our meeting - let’s all be kind. We also ask that we focus on discussing the issues and refrain from voicing grievances against specific VPD officers. Thank you very much.

Please share this post with people who live and work in Vancouver.

teggy604 02-28-2020 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8975861)

Prop to that guy and everyone trying to save our passion for cars.

trollface 02-28-2020 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by teggy604 (Post 8975885)
Prop to that guy and everyone trying to save our passion for cars.

Can we at least not film a video complaining about the cops while driving down a highway?

Jesus Christ. It's all about the optics.


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