and just mail you a notice after =P

Who are you, what are your intentions, and how come you deleted all of your previous posts in this thread?

Cain is that you?

I drive a frs daily. .... who has some extra time on his hands. Does it even matter who I am?

I'm just saying you guys should probably start stating real concrete facts that are backed by law/precedent rather than what your interpretation is of certain MVAR/MVA. Think like a lawyer use some precedent on mvar/mva to back up some facts.
If you got a problem with my posts then I won't chime in my thoughts on this topic.
Overwhelming the OPCC/PSS with the same complaints that got dismissed (Last year complaints made on certain officers) is not going to do anything without concrete proof of wrongdoing. It sounds like certain officers are taking advantage of the MVAR/MVA vagueness and providing less discretion.
I'm sure the Aboriginals/FN people of Vancouver has put in more REAL complaints than the car community with significant proof of wrongdoing before changing police procedure/legislation/law. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Isn't the whole point of this thread to change the VI system? I'm sure the thread is not to just point fingers at who's doing it and when. In my opinion, the best course of action here is to lobby against those who can revise the MVAR/MVA.

It's interesting that the community thinks that VPD's traffic unit is "targeting" sporty cars. Would you say that the statistics show that sporty car drivers are more likely to engage in behaviour that is against the mva/mvar? What about the VPD's BET team? Would you say VPD's BET team "targeting" the aboriginal population in the DTES? I'm sure the aboriginal/FN community thinks that they're being systematically targeted for enforcement on a daily basis.

I'm intrigued on what kind of response I'm going to get. Probably negativity but what can you do?

:Popcorn

I'll tell you who I see spend the most time on their phones at traffic lights when I'm walking dt. Boomers in expensive SUVs.
The people I see driving 40+ over the speed limit? People in their early 20s in their parents shitty 5 year old base model c class/3 series. Sometimes N on the back, more often a Z because they are so edgy.
I was pulled over going 7KM/h in rush hour traffic, at 800 fucking RPMs in a car that is quieter than any new BMW. It had nothing to do with behaviour and I can list off plenty of people in the exact same situation.
I'm likely to engage in that behaviour? My driving record would determine that is a lie.

Engaging in whataboutism using an issue that has far reaching sociological and historical issues than a traffic cop with a grudge is comparing apples to bricks.

Try again. Or are you licking boots because you don't see the demographical skew for the targeted cars? Especially since there's a perceived subjectiveness to the targeting.

There's more to meets the eye for a driving record check. There can be "driving complaints" that are automatically dismissed as per call volume/priority. There may be numerous complaints/speeding/dangerous driving that are written down through people calling 911. So you MAY not know your full driving history. You will only know what you are "guilty" of. So here may be what's pushing an officer to pull you over over another person.

Because these traffic officers are allegedly enforcing modifications on vehicles I'd say any modifications made on a car whether its factory or aftermarket will be looked at more closely by specific members of the traffic unit compared to a patrol unit whom did not take the extra traffic training course that traffic units take as reported by the opcc complaint. There's more things to pick out that is wrong on a modified car vs a stock like parts that are "off road only." A couple of interesting questions to think about is if you have an alleged aftermarket exhaust is " are police required a warrant to look under a vehicle for catalytic converters?" If NO then they can just ASSUME you have one then give you a N&O for that. If YES then they can pick at coilovers/springs. How are they going to ASSUME that your springs/coils are at an appropriate spring rate roadside without a N&O ? They can look at your tint now or your tinted lights / HIDS / Reflectors/ 4th brake light. Just nitpicking everything that may be labeled as "Off road only" or is against the MVA/MVAR.

Again I think there should be a higher threshold for N&O's.

I'd request a FOI for year/make/model of cars the traffic unit specifically vs VPD has given a traffic ticket to prove your point. I'm sure that normal patrol units will balance the possible skew in the data with a bunch of older suspicious cars compared to the traffic unit, and therefore justified as not targeting.

I may have been wrong on this comparison but I'll tell you why I have thought the way I have.

Do you not think there is a perceived subjectiveness for targeting aboriginals? It's written in literature and most of the time aboriginal folks commit crime more often than caucasians/non. Most criminology courses offered by university explains various theories that explain why aboriginal people are more likely to commit crime. It's literally engrained in 2/3 of officers whom take criminology in university to become an officer. Why else are they always at the bottom of the food chain? They're always being street checked. Imagine getting checked more than 2x a day to check if you have a warrant/ breaching conditions. Keep in mind that stopping a person has a HIGHER threshold to be identified than being in a car. It's interesting because if you look at the statistics on those who commit crime in the DTES it's mostly aboriginal people and those are the ones being targeted. Most policing agencies are based off of "problem based policing." Literally the problem needs to be policed more. If there is more resistance/ non-compliance there will be more enforcement.

I still don't know why you are still singling out "a" traffic cop with a grudge rather than multiple people are giving out and supporting VI's.

lol - what are you talking about?

these cars care getting pulled over because they're flashy, and to send the message to the automotive community to stay out of vancouver where they are not welcome.

if you've got inside info - maybe you can tell us who mandated this crack down? Cui Bono? City council and politicians? Trying to impress the point grey nimbys.

I called 911 on Westopher's car once - broke my neck when it went by

what would a foi that breaks down into make/model achieve when we know it ranges from corolla to performante

read this and first thing that came to mind was maury saying that on your behalf :lol

https://media.tenor.com/images/4bdf7...de51/tenor.gif

Lol that was definitely the plan. I’m glad it worked.

Dude comes in here saying he “dailys a FRS” and expects us to summarize the entire history of this for him?

What is this 21 jump street? Fuckin narc trying to fit in back in high school.

you guys giving me lots of references here...like andrea from 90210 on family guy

Probably too early to ask, but have motorcycles been VI'd recently?

^actually yes they have, a stock Harley and one of those big cruiser harleys, not sure about crotch rockets though

Bikes get vi’d every year so I don’t see that as changing much. Harleys get the exhaust tickets and sport bikes get the no reflectors/fender eliminator tickets.

And of course the super dukes get all the whoolies

Will trade Ducati Monster for toilet paper. Show me what you got. :fuckthatshit:

How loud is a termi pipe :lol

Enough for a VI apparently.

Pipe down Cain.

I see what you did there with the syntax :fullofwin: