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Old 09-10-2021, 11:05 AM   #12501
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Took my 19 year old nephew for dinner last night.

He doesn't intend to get vaccinated. Cites his reasoning from listening to "Joe Rogan".

People wonder why younger adults aren't getting vaccinated and are skeptical of doing so, you can thank asshole celebrities like Joe.
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its just telling those who've been exposed to stay at home


I think you guys are painting me as some sort of angry anti-government individual. I'm quite the opposite.

But i'm not staying home because somebody at the restaurant I visited was covid positive. And I'm definitely not for a government measure that will help them force me to do that.

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Then you have to consider what kind of country you live in that you would be giving up your location data to.

Maybe there's a slippery slope, and one day Canada will be conquered by fascists - I mean America voted one in 5 years ago, and Texas is going crazy right now - but I wouldn't worry too much about it. The rhetorical scenario you brought up, can you honestly see that happening? Really? Where do you go that would even get you placed under arrest? (maybe don't answer that lol)
This argument only works for reasonable people, and as you've said, that's the issue at hand.

The dolts who happily drink the Tucker Carlson koolaid truly believe that Trudeau and Biden and any government that isn't conservative/republican is a fascist regime while also simultaneously communistic AND socialistic. And QR codes and gubment tracking is somehow an infringement on their freedoms and that Canada/US is now the worst country in the world that needs being made great again.

Truly, truly a pandemic of the stupid.
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But i'm not staying home because somebody at the restaurant I visited was covid positive. And I'm definitely not for a government measure that will help them force me to do that.
The alternative is everyone stays at home (lockdown)

But I think even with Aus it's not a stay at home order, but u do have to go n get tested if u are pinged
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australia (sydney) is in intense lockdown w curfews until at least the end of september. have been since july. It's a good thing to monitor - their influenza season is always 6 months ahead of ours.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-58496667

i guess the tracking system you mentioned bought them some time to vaccinate. they're a long way behind. it's a different situation there though

we're vaxxed. we're ready to get back to it. without the anti-vaxx movement we wouldn't bother w a vaccine passport system at all.

this has veered from the course. I'm for these measures. I just don't want to have my movements tracked by the government, and I don't want the idea that it's OK as long as it's for our "safety" to gain traction.
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Took my 19 year old nephew for dinner last night.

He doesn't intend to get vaccinated. Cites his reasoning from listening to "Joe Rogan".

People wonder why younger adults aren't getting vaccinated and are skeptical of doing so, you can thank asshole celebrities like Joe.
Both my coworkers didn't want to get vaccinated because they listen to Joe Rogan. I get looking at various perspectives, but imagine listening to a YouTuber over doctor's. Crazy.

I too can come up with a crazy analysis of how the mayor/VPD is using VIs to make the city a more greener (boring) place. And everyone should be doing the same thing. I could start a YouTube channel and claim conspiracy theories.

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Call me when Canada starts doing nationalistic shit like this:

https://www.globalnews.ca/news/81800...s-loyalty/amp/

I’ll be worried then.
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australia (sydney) is in intense lockdown w curfews until at least the end of september. have been since july. It's a good thing to monitor - their influenza season is always 6 months ahead of ours.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-58496667

i guess the tracking system you mentioned bought them some time to vaccinate. they're a long way behind. it's a different situation there though

we're vaxxed. we're ready to get back to it. without the anti-vaxx movement we wouldn't bother w a vaccine passport system at all.

this has veered from the course. I'm for these measures. I just don't want to have my movements tracked by the government, and I don't want the idea that it's OK as long as it's for our "safety" to gain traction.
But that's all we're talking ab tho, hypotheticals, since the passport doesn't have a tracking/signin system at all

Would've been useful a year ago, when we had to sign in to places we went to
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I hate to burst a lot of bubbles here but the QR code vaccination passport can absolutely be used to track your movements if they decide they want to. The end user (restaurant etc) may not have access to anything other than your vaccination status but that is connected to your BC Health number. The provincial and federal governments, RCMP, CSIS, et al CAN access and use that data if they see fit. You're signing off on government (for public display) access and waiving your privacy privilege to one tiny portion of your medical records. There will be a database of your scans in government systems.
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And what evidence do you have of this? Other than pure conjecture?
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And what evidence do you have of this? Other than pure conjecture?
Former Gov employee with a higher than average security clearance and understanding of how government systems and intelligence agencies operate. The intention of use doesn't have to be nefarious or acted upon, but the data will be there.
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ok, so say RCMP figured out I ate hotpot on Kingsway at 8:50on Sep. 12th, then hit goodlife at 10:00pm, and then saw a movie 3 days later at coquitlam.

What then, other than someone knows where I was, which they could have just checked my social media for?
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This was a former BC government employee? LOL this is the BC NDP not CSIS. It sounds like you know someone who worked in the Canadian intelligence community and is applying their historical experience to any government agency regardless of jurisdiction and mandate.

In any case you would think it would be pretty obvious from the employees who worked on this that if we were storing private information for future use or for nefarious purposes it would eventually leak out. People are pretty sensitive about this shit nowadays. Not to mention the other 5 or 6 provinces doing this.

But then again it's much harder to disprove something that it is to prove it. This is how conspiracy rabbit holes start.
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I just got email from Grand Villa Casino on proof of vaccination process. Nothing new......

Government gonna be like, "Holy shit, this guy lives in casinos," lol.

Actually, my BCLC elite card keeps track of everything, anyway.........
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I hate to burst a lot of bubbles here but the QR code vaccination passport can absolutely be used to track your movements if they decide they want to. The end user (restaurant etc) may not have access to anything other than your vaccination status but that is connected to your BC Health number. The provincial and federal governments, RCMP, CSIS, et al CAN access and use that data if they see fit. You're signing off on government (for public display) access and waiving your privacy privilege to one tiny portion of your medical records. There will be a database of your scans in government systems.
If someone wants to know which non-essential businesses I’ve visited, just call me and ask or check the database. I know they *could* check on me but highly doubt they care. Even if they did, that wouldn’t bother me. Naive or too trusting? Maybe. But I’ve got more important things to consume my attention and energy than a bunch of “what-ifs”
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With the way technology is implemented by our governments, I doubt they would have the resources to sift through all that data. And what would they do with it, anyhow? Remember the COVID app that was supposed to track proximity exposures? It never worked in some provinces because of whatever reason. The banks and credit card companies can already track location and spending behaviour. The Facebook tracking cookies are everywhere; the government would be my least concern, at least the Canadian one.

A QR code is simply an encoded URL. You could point any old iPhone at it and you’d hit some URL. And with the scanner app, maybe there’s authentication before it hits a server to pull the vaccination information, or there’s a login information for businesses, but that would add another layer of complexity of whether the user is an actual business/employee. Either way, who cares if you went to a restaurant or theatre last week. Our government doesn’t have a hand in every industry, like some other country.
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a mandatory quarantine implemented by a covid tracking app is house arrest.

i can honestly see that happening.

not only do I see it happening, if this goes on long enough - I think part of the population will ask for it. people have been begging for a tracking app now for over a year - it's even baked into my phone now.

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It would be mandatory testing, not mandatory "house arrest" (quarantine)

If you have covid, do you not think you should be under "house arrest" (quarantine)?
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So you know what the QR code scanner app/device/whatever does when it scans? It's connected to the internet and sends in the scan results to "the government"?

You know they could do that without QR codes too, they'd just enter your name and ID number into a computer and add it to the database. QR codes just makes it easier to scan. They could even use printed cards and scan it with an OCR (reads the words using the camera). It would be literally the same thing.

QR codes are not scary, it's just data. It's no different than words printed on a piece of paper.
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The restaurant side app scans the QR code, it has to pull up the data regarding your specific person. You’re telling me that restaurant/business side app couldn’t be used to effectively put that data into a database of where/when you’ve been a place? Of course it could be. Easily.

Whether it is or isn’t doesn’t really matter but 100% they could make it work that way incredibly easily.

I don’t think it’s a stretch to think in the foreseeable future this kind of system prohibiting you from going into places or getting services when your QR code is scanned and there is outstanding debts, warrants, etc. Under your name
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The restaurant side app scans the QR code, it has to pull up the data regarding your specific person. You’re telling me that restaurant/business side app couldn’t be used to effectively put that data into a database of where/when you’ve been a place? Of course it could be. Easily.

Whether it is or isn’t doesn’t really matter but 100% they could make it work that way incredibly easily.

I don’t think it’s a stretch to think in the foreseeable future this kind of system prohibiting you from going into places or getting services when your QR code is scanned and there is outstanding debts, warrants, etc. Under your name
The data is in the QR code. The only reason it's in a QR code instead of printed words is to make it easy to scan.

And yes it could theoretically be taking note of the fact that you checked into the restaurant and save that to a database. But why? They're not tracking for covid outbreaks or anything. "the government" is not out to get you. They just want to make sure everyone gets vaccinated before going out in public. We have the numbers, so we know why this needs to be done.

As for the rest of your post, it has nothing to do with any of this
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If you have covid, do you not think you should be under "house arrest" (quarantine)?
the term mandatory doesn't leave a lot of room for interpretation. are you saying that the government should have to power to demand that I consent to a covid test? for any reason? what if i say no? I'm not returning from outside the country. there's nothing on the books (currently) that gives anybody the power to compel you to test. it might be a condition of employment, but that's a choice.

in doing so, wouldn't a positive test then result in mandatory quarantine?


since I don't put myself in any situation where a covid test is mandatory, I'm afraid you're going to have to trust me to do all of those things only if I choose to.

i'm not exactly sure what the state of affairs is in HK right now. perhaps you've grown accustomed to this type of government overreach.

that's what I'm worried about in the long term here. people will just keep accepting these measures and start to get used to them. that's all i was saying

(disclaimer: obviously anybody exhibiting any symptoms should get tested, and obviously anybody who tests positive should stay home)
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People upset about passports and tests when the government in the past has yanked people out of there homes and sent them over seas to kill people. People are so soft these days.
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There’s already plenty of data available to be tracked. Just look at your smartphone and the ads that pop up.

My BMW Connect app in the car tracks everywhere we go. What is the Gov’t going to do if they know you eat KFC every Tuesday at 8pm?
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Some of you guys need to take off the tinfoil hats and get some fresh air. If the gov't really wanted to track where everyone is going they'd already be doing it, they don't need to use your vaccination card to do it. Scanning license plates, facial recognition, etc have been around for ages and they'd know about everywhere you go, not just when you happen to go into certain non-essential businesses. If you're actually trying to track people then using data from a system that you're not using most of the time is a pretty bad way to do it.

But oh yeah lets panic over second (or more) hand info from an ex employee and think that I'm going to be denied entry to Timmies because I forgot to pay a parking ticket. Does China even do that shit yet?

Give me a break.
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