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Old 09-03-2021, 04:53 PM   #12376
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Damn .. in AB, $100 if you get a vaccine!

But then, earlier, I think they had a $1M lottery if you get a vaccine!

What a joke ...
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Maybe they should raffle off a fully loaded F-350 and a years worth of smokes if you get the vaccine that would probably do the trick.
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Damn .. in AB, $100 if you get a vaccine!

But then, earlier, I think they had a $1M lottery if you get a vaccine!

What a joke ...
Only like 30% of people over 70 here are vaccinated... The housing authority did a test run by giving out 1kg bags of rice with vaccination for elderly people in a low income area. So many people showed up that they had to turn them away...

Sometimes all you need is some incentive. And old people here will line up for hours for free rice

They interviewed some people and they said they didn't know how to book online, and others said that their doctor told them to "wait and see". Some just wanted the free rice (they've done open walk ins before).

$100 is pretty sweet.. It feels like a waste of tax dollars, but the alternative is having fewer vaccinated people so I'd say it's worth it.
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^ I get that in HK with people over 70. But that's clearly not the case in AB.

And yah, shout "FREE" and you'll have a swarm of Asian people ... doesn't matter what or if they need it, they will run to line up and get it.
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^ I get that in HK with people over 70. But that's clearly not the case in AB.

And yah, shout "FREE" and you'll have a swarm of Asian people ... doesn't matter what or if they need it, they will run to line up and get it.
1KG bags of rice are worth like $2-3 USD if you buy bags that small.. A lot of these people really are poor, but still it's crazy that's the incentive!

I remember when flights started requiring sealable bags, and when the airport put them out, people would just hoard them by the handful, I saw it with my own eyes. After that I think you had to ask for one
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Kenny is giving away $100 after he cut nurse's pay. I hear the amount they are giving out is about the same he cut from nurses.
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Those people who protested at VGH are knuckle dragging fuckheads.

I feel bad for my GF and the other nurses and doctors that work there, imagine being praised to being villainized in the span of a year.

If you want to protest, do you, but you can't disrupt the activity of the main and primary hospital in the province. It's funny to me, these are the same people that when contracted with COVID, run straight to the same hospital for treatment.

The reality is, this has nothing to do with the vaccine. There's been 5 billion vaccinations given out since its development, if there were any major issues, wouldn't we hear about them by now?

The truth is, these people don't care about the efficacy about the vaccine, it's never been about that. This all really started the last few years ago, especially with the coming of Trump, it's this whole counter culture, anti-pc, anti-immigration, government tyranny bullshit.

It's not coincidental that the entire crowd of protesters were white, not a single shade of melanin were seen in that group. Many of these people are brushing shoulders with white supremacism groups (as evidenced by the swastika flags, etc).

These are people that are simply angry at the current state of the world, the "beigeing" of society, immigration, all the items I've listed above, very little of this has to do with the vaccine in itself.

Similar protests about "rights" and "freedoms" and comparisons to communism were levied in the 60's during the civil rights movement as a government tyranny being imposed on the public, and that segregation should be a choice and a right.

This is the current state of the culture we're now in, if it wasn't vaccines, this would've manifested itself in some other manner, attached to some other subject/controversy.
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Yah sure, China is in the next lowest death category above Greenland. Right. Let’s all bow to their remarkable success with the virus…………
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I love how China is technically a lighter shade than Canada. Get right fucked bud LOL

Edit: per 100k ppl, so then maybe ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ but I highly doubt that
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Yeah per 100K people rather than a flat number.. At 25 excess deaths per 100K, China is still probably above every other country there. They could be insanely higher, but who really knows.

You can read how they calculated it here. It's quite a wide range
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If u read the article, they have no real data to go on from China, but estimate up to 1.5million deaths, so don't let the shading fool ya
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Well they also said Tiannamen Square never happened amongst many many many other ridiculous claims, anything to save face right?
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when i heard the news for HK; those above the age of 80 in Hong Kong, the number shrinks to 8%. I was blown away on the percentage being so low.

I'm going to assume they have lack of accessibility as #1 factor and #2, they aren't readily able to get informed in the news.
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Twas the night before ... school starts. My greatest concern is for kids under 12 who cannot get vaccinated. Universities ... well, most people in that age bracket is vaccinated, I think.

Let's hope for the best and this, I would gladly be wrong, but my uneducated guess is that it will be > 1000 +'ve cases/day in about a week's time.
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^^ enjoy it while we can. I've been to two restaurants over the weekend both were packed, at least at 85%+ capacity if not fully seated. No barriers or some seats less than 6 feet apart.
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when i heard the news for HK; those above the age of 80 in Hong Kong, the number shrinks to 8%. I was blown away on the percentage being so low.

I'm going to assume they have lack of accessibility as #1 factor and #2, they aren't readily able to get informed in the news.
I think the main thing is the "wait and see" attitude a lot of people here have, especially older people. We haven't had a single local case of covid in 3 weeks now, which is beyond the incubation period. So HK is essentially covid free right now - anyone infected came from somewhere else, and is in quarantine. So why take the "risk" of getting vaccinated when closed borders and insanely strict quarantine (which don't' affect these 80 year olds) are effective? Just wait it out, isolate HK and let the world deal with it.

This WOULD be a feasible solution, albeit an expensive one, if a vaccine didn't exist. But it does, so...

They are working to make it more accessible with more walkup vaccinations throughout the city. A lot of people can't book online. the other issue is doctors who have that general "wait and see" attitude, which as we know kind of works, but only as long as the borders are closed. Problem is, closed borders breaks the economy, and isn't a final solution, as much as localists and racists in general like to keep borders closed.
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I think the main thing is the "wait and see" attitude a lot of people here have, especially older people. We haven't had a single local case of covid in 3 weeks now, which is beyond the incubation period. So HK is essentially covid free right now - anyone infected came from somewhere else, and is in quarantine. So why take the "risk" of getting vaccinated when closed borders and insanely strict quarantine (which don't' affect these 80 year olds) are effective? Just wait it out, isolate HK and let the world deal with it.

This WOULD be a feasible solution, albeit an expensive one, if a vaccine didn't exist. But it does, so...

They are working to make it more accessible with more walkup vaccinations throughout the city. A lot of people can't book online. the other issue is doctors who have that general "wait and see" attitude, which as we know kind of works, but only as long as the borders are closed. Problem is, closed borders breaks the economy, and isn't a final solution, as much as localists and racists in general like to keep borders closed.
It is catch-22, they will not open the border without quarantine because China's policy is to maintain zero infection (pipe dream). CCP leadership has to maintain this stance to justify their past actions of keeping the borders closed.
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Keeping the borders closed really is the most effective thing to do, even better than vaccination probably. It just fucks up your country in many other ways I guess

Zero covid can be maintained with a closed border.. but then what's the point?

Also what's the point of having zero covid when everyone still has to wear a mask, even outdoors

We have zero covid now, but can't change our lives to be anything resembling pre-covid.
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-was reading this from News1130:


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We also know that British Columbians will be able to save their vaccine card to their smartphones. The province says a secure paper option will be available for the launch date.

The proof of vaccination requirement doesn’t just apply to locals, but to everyone coming to B.C. too. That means Canadians visiting from out of province will have to show their province or territory’s officially recognized vaccine record as well as government ID from that province or territory. International visitors will have to show the proof of vaccination they used to enter the country, as well as their passport.

Premier John Horgan is expected to join Provincial Health Officer Dr. Bonnie Henry and Health Minister Adrian Dix for the announcement Tuesday at 2 p.m.


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I can't wait to see what's going to happen.

For my grandma who is stubborn and not getting vaxxed, she can't go dim sum any more. You try talking to a 91 yr old in getting vaxxed....

I am however eager to find out how they will deal with fake stuff. Will it be a QR code restaurants will have to scan and it'll have to be green lid? or this piece of paper which my buddies are making fake print outs already be pass-able....
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Keeping the borders closed really is the most effective thing to do, even better than vaccination probably. It just fucks up your country in many other ways I guess

Zero covid can be maintained with a closed border.. but then what's the point?

Also what's the point of having zero covid when everyone still has to wear a mask, even outdoors

We have zero covid now, but can't change our lives to be anything resembling pre-covid.
There is an agenda hidden somewhere... just like how they stopped renewing passports in mainland China and discouraging people from traveling. But they only started doing this this year.

Anyway. I think this generation of people is changed forever. I asked my daughter who's six to take off her mask after getting into the car. She ignored my request and fell asleep with her mask on... something that I would never be able to do.

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I can't wait to see what's going to happen.

For my grandma who is stubborn and not getting vaxxed, she can't go dim sum any more. You try talking to a 91 yr old in getting vaxxed....

I am however eager to find out how they will deal with fake stuff. Will it be a QR code restaurants will have to scan and it'll have to be green lid? or this piece of paper which my buddies are making fake print outs already be pass-able....
I would have some heart to heart talk with her to see what's her concern if I were you. At her age, she is quite vulnerable to the virus. If death is what she fears, it is the exact reason she should give the vaccine a try. There is no way anyone can live in a bubble and not get infected in the long run.

I have a helper from Philippines whose brother in her 60s and mother all passed away because of this virus. Her sister in 40s also got it recently too and is not recovering. All of them did not get vaccinated. With the vaccine, at least you can somewhat treat it like a flu.
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When you’re 91 what exactly are you worried about? Not reaching 92? Lol
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