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I’d say if we are talking 5-10 at any given time, those are 5-10 out of 120 people that wouldn’t be there, and not to mention the amount of time they spend in that bed. It makes a difference.
There is basically 100% chance that they wouldn’t be there if they were vaccinated.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
Also the 'vaccine program' was meant to do a bunch of things at the same time. Yes, to ensure unvaxxed don't sit and mingle with others to spread, but also to inconvenience them to the point where they get the shot.
Axing the vaxx passport doesn't do anyone any good except pandering to the few that couldn't go to Red Robin. I can do it fumbling around holding a 2 year old, restaurant staff have no issue with it - as far as covid restrictions go it's one of the least onerous ones that affect very little of the population.
At this point, I feel everyone is too focused on the unvaccinated / antimask / anti mask vs mask /vaccination. This is not the main issue.
It's that we're approaching 2 years of this pandemic and the entire idea of "lock downs" and all these policies is to protect our health care system of being overloaded when shit hits the fan. So in the past 2 years, have I read any funding going towards to healthcare? Increase our ICU capacity?
I see $120 million loan to Ukraine? I guess there are a lot of Canadians there.
What I see is the incompetence of our government and leaders. Weather it's Trudeau or Horgan or Henry. They do not have a clear message and/or plan to fight this pandemic. They claim masks don't work then they say it does work. BC here, they are unwilling to test the public or have the public get access into testing themselves. Through their policies, they create more confusion among the public than the virus itself. The public doesn't even know what to listen to anymore.
It’s a lot easier to get a vaccine than fix 20 years of underfunded healthcare. Pretty sure there has been announcements about new funding for healthcare during all of this?
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
Hundreds of real truckers stuck at the Canada US boarder in Alberta because of protesters.
Yup. One of our trucks left on Friday and is stuck there.
They were supposed to deliver on Monday in California and bring back a load of produce.
__________________ Originally posted by Iceman_19 you should have tried to touch his penis. that really throws them off. Originally posted by The7even SumAznGuy > Billboa Originally posted by 1990TSI SumAznGuy> Internet > tinytrix
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and icing on the cake, lady driving a newer chrysler 200 infront of me... jumped out of her car, dropped her pants, did an immediate squat and did probably the longest public relief ever...... steam and all.
It’s a lot easier to get a vaccine than fix 20 years of underfunded healthcare. Pretty sure there has been announcements about new funding for healthcare during all of this?
I was listening to a podcast on this very subject a little while back, Episode 456 at the Big Story:
This podcast network is part of the Rogers Media group, so I would assume it does a reasonable amount of legitimate journalistic work.
In the podcast, the guest was discussing this exact issue of how most / all political leaders in the country have promised to inject funding / expand healthcare programs, but nobody has really delivered on the promise at all. So we continue to be stuck in this conundrum.
Yup. One of our trucks left on Friday and is stuck there.
They were supposed to deliver on Monday in California and bring back a load of produce.
Imagine protesting RE supply chain issues, and being the cause of the very thing you're protesting against. Too funny
When are these mask mandates going to end though? I'm sick of having to run back to my car after walking a few blocks and remembering that I left my stupid mask in the car.
One thing I do find very ironic about masks -- City imposed rules on straws, plastic bags, plastic in general, all in the name of the environment and climate change.
On the flip side, I haven't heard a single word about mask waste. I see them littered on the ground everywhere in Vancouver, on streets, on trails, you name it.
In Mexico, masks were littered all over the place as well. My mind likes to wonder what the environmental impact and waste is involved in creating and disposing of all these masks.
This is why we humans are destined to fail. We focus on one issue and impose pragmatic measures, spewing moral platitudes, meanwhile our response to COVID has created an entirely different issue of complete waste to the environment.
Curious if we'll see articles in the future about the "Growing disposable mask island in the Pacific", or "Philippines no longer to take the west's mask waste".
I'm being silly, but I'm really tired of wearing these fucking masks. This better be over by summer.
Hmmm. Ottawa's civic government is considering legal action against GoFundMe in order to recoup the costs of policing because of the Flu Trucks Klan convoy.
FYI: It costs about $800,000 per day in policing costs.
Hmmm. Ottawa's civic government is considering legal action against GoFundMe in order to recoup the costs of policing because of the Flu Trucks Klan convoy.
FYI: It costs about $800,000 per day in policing costs.
Top donation $30K. Jagmeet's brother inlaw's $13K is still showing in the top 10 donations. LOL
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and icing on the cake, lady driving a newer chrysler 200 infront of me... jumped out of her car, dropped her pants, did an immediate squat and did probably the longest public relief ever...... steam and all.
^ Yesterday the top donation was like $42,069 or something from www. Liar .com or something like that. Looks like it has been removed.
People were speculating it could be Elon Musk since he seems to enjoy trolling and has money to spend, but no concrete proof. He has tweeted about the whole situation multiple times.
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Guys like Elon and Joe are practically orgasming over how huge their following is getting by appealing to the void left by Trump. Joe is already falling back due to the consequences, let's see what Elon does.
That’s like all these people who spend all this time and energy making trump memes and shit while the guy is out golfing all day. They have enough money and influence to not really care about anything.
Just look at the investing thread, people love TSLA like they love apple. Elons ego might get hurt but at the end of the day he’s just bouncing back and forth being the worlds richest person
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I think Joe cares deep inside. Otherwise he would have gone the opposite direction when the Spotify stuff started happening last week.
The fact that he got paid already shows that he doesn't have to care, and didn't have to do that video and doesn't have to make his show like it used to be (which he says he's doing but we'll see)
Elon I think truly doesn't care
Edit: I think JRE can be salvaged if Joe invites Duncan over for a show, does "an heroic dose" of mushrooms, and just resets his ego. He used to talk about people needing to do that, but he needs it as much as anyone now.
Elon clearly cares. He's the kid no one liked in high school desperately pandering to whoever will worship him. If that wasn't the case, all these people would just shut the fuck up and go do cool shit quietly.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
Elon cares about attention but I don't think he cares where it comes from. For a long time he was a nerd's hero, but now he's a wannabe rich ultracapitalist weirdo hero.
Back in the day you'd see dudes with Fight Club and American Psycho posters on their walls. Now the millennial version that same type of person has NFT monkey avatars and Elon Musk retweets
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I can't imagine Tesla shareholders are liking that, he could turn into a liability at some point for the company.
He already has been for awhile, he isn’t on the quarterly results calls for a reason… and when he did come on the recent one by surprise he caused a massive loss to the company saying no cyber truck or roadster this year and that he wants to focus on robots instead.
Guys a fuckin clown, I’m not even invested in Tesla but I feel bad for all the people he costs thousands of dollars for his own entertainment.
He already has been for awhile, he isn’t on the quarterly results calls for a reason… and when he did come on the recent one by surprise he caused a massive loss to the company saying no cyber truck or roadster this year and that he wants to focus on robots instead.
Guys a fuckin clown, I’m not even invested in Tesla but I feel bad for all the people he costs thousands of dollars for his own entertainment.
As a TSLA shareholder, I honestly don't see that much of an issue.
TSLA, or Elon Musk, is not your typical blue-chip company/CEO where they follow a strict guideline and everything is about "fitting-in" the general perception of what is acceptable. He is not your usual "good" student who obeys the standard. But rather, it's about what's right.
Building EVs was right. Investing in AI that makes our life easier and more productive was right. Making a car/truck to be as simple as possible was right.
If TSLA just followed the market (car-making), pure BEV would never exist.
As for Elon's support to the truck covoy, let's just get one thing straight. He's not anti-vaxx, but rather, the continued restrictions that the gov't applies to the public without following any scientific fact at all.
Covid is in our society. By applying restrictions, such as requiring truckers to vaccinate doesn't help with the spread. A triple or even quad vaccinated trucker can still get infected and spread the covid as one without vaccine. Study has shown that Omicron variant can start spreading within a few hours of becoming infected... before any symptoms show up.
Instead of spending hundreds of millions on testing, which at this stage means little in the grand scheme of things, direct those funds to create more capacity in our medical system. Just suggest anyone who has symptoms to take their time off and stay home. Most would not develop severe conditions. And instead of putting so much resources in things that means nothing, how about let's focus on where the problem actually is: our health system is not equipped to handle large scale pandemic.
Coming back to Elon Musk... everyone is entitled to their opinion and I see no problem in him expressing his POV. You feel that he should STFU because it's against your POV and he can influence many. But what if the position is now reversed and your PoV is actually the one not accepted by the public? Again... focus on what's right. I've long stated that our gov't should focus on what actually matter: how our society and economy is going to change by taking the pandemic into account. Instead, they don't give a flying fuck and simply making policies that's about face.
They have argued that everyone should get vaccinated. But they should also talk about that getting vaccinated would not end the spread. This is not our polio/hep shot that we give to our kids so that they can build immunity. The vaccine serves no other purpose than reducing the symptoms and hide the true problem that our health system is incompetent.
You don't solve a problem by shooting the messenger. You solve the problem by actually targeting the problem. Because think about this... if we are already overwhelmed today (2yrs after covid as a matter of fact). What is going to happen when something much deadlier and easier to spread hits us? Are we just going to lock down the country a la China and wait for a year until vaccine shows up?
As mikemhg pointed out. We need to stop supporting policies that are only short term. They are ok when we are just starting to encounter the problem. But 2yrs in... wtf did we do to adapt our life to this pandemic? Nothing... we are still acting like this is just the beginning and put restrictions after restrictions. When is this going to end? If you don't tackle the problem, which is our health system... then the answer is never. We locked ourselves down when Covid first hit. 2yrs later, we are still putting restrictions that are basically lock-down lite. And assuming the pandemic is going to stay with us for a few more years... is this all this gov't can do? Restrictions after restrictions just so that we can "not overwhelm our health system?" WTF did we do in the last 2yrs with our health system?
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