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Liquid_o2 10-07-2020 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Alpine (Post 9001777)
And paying 3M for 3rd/4th line/PK grinders comes to bite us in the butt again.

Agreed. I don't understand how GMJB and his team projected their cap when they were signing Roussell, Ferland, Sutter, Beagle, Benn?

I am totally fine with giving up a 2nd rounder and Madden for Toffoli, but he has to be re-signed. Looks really bad as a rental.

My prediction? Canucks are going to dump all their money into Markstrom and lose valuable pieces such as Toffili and Tanev making us very thin on depth. Our 3rd and 4th lines are sinking us.

CRS 10-07-2020 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Liquid_o2 (Post 9001792)
Agreed. I don't understand how GMJB and his team projected their cap when they were signing Roussell, Ferland, Sutter, Beagle, Benn?

I am totally fine with giving up a 2nd rounder and Madden for Toffoli, but he has to be re-signed. Looks really bad as a rental.

My prediction? Canucks are going to dump all their money into Markstrom and lose valuable pieces such as Toffili and Tanev making us very thin on depth. Our 3rd and 4th lines are sinking us.

I think we'll let Marky walk if he doesn't agree. Spend the rest of the money accordingly since Petey and Quinn coming up on their next contracts soon.

murd0c 10-07-2020 11:00 AM

I honestly think the Canucks should take MAF from Vegas since they are going to take half of his salary. It would be perfect at only 3.5 a year and he's still a great goalie and will help with Demko becoming the #1 in the next couple of years.

Liquid_o2 10-07-2020 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CRS (Post 9001797)
I think we'll let Marky walk if he doesn't agree. Spend the rest of the money accordingly since Petey and Quinn coming up on their next contracts soon.

If Markstrom walks, I can't see why they wouldn't sign Taffoli and Tanev.

Sutter, Benn, and Baertschi come off the books after next year. So will Ryan Spooner's buyout. That is about $10 million right there. Hopefully Ferland either retires or goes on LTIR and give us more wiggle room. That will hopefully open up enough $$$ to sign Petey and Hughes to their contracts.

bobbinka 10-07-2020 11:46 AM

Our draft pick, Joni Jurmo, is Brock and Petey combined. Superstar confirmed.

https://i.redd.it/vwc5duet2qr51.jpg

Bouncing Bettys 10-07-2020 12:02 PM

No QO for Stecher. Markstrom could be headed to the Oilers. Wouldn't mind either on the Leafs.

Sw0op 10-07-2020 01:03 PM

love the heart and will Stetcher has but he's too expensive for a 3rd pair guy and his size really limits him...need to move on if we are going to improve

68style 10-07-2020 01:11 PM

Benning didn’t qualify in other instances where they re-signed players... I think he will be back

RiceIntegraRS 10-07-2020 01:12 PM

Stetcher is the perfect #5 guy for our team. Im hoping the reason why were not qualifying him is because were gonna sign him for less..... but apparently no one has any faith in Jimbo to do that

Hondaracer 10-07-2020 02:44 PM

These other shit deals make not qualifying Troy then offering him another deal such a slap in the face. Like imo Troy is a more useful player than a beagle, Erickson, etc. But you can’t pay him even the qualifying offer because of all the other shit contracts

bobbinka 10-07-2020 03:03 PM

many teams arent qualifying their RFAs. that's the world of flat cap.

if you qualify them, they can go to arbitration, which means they get even more than the qualifying offer.

Obsideon 10-07-2020 03:06 PM

Paying $17.25 million for a group of 4th line grinders on the decline ... le sigh

Sutter, Brandon - $4,375,000
Ferland, Micheal - $3,500,000
Baertschi, Sven - $3,366,666
Roussel, Antoine - $3,000,000
Beagle, Jay- $3,000,000

Really biting us in the ass right now. Could really have used that cap to sign the players we really needed while giving the youngsters some sheltered playing time.

tr0ubl3s0m3x 10-07-2020 03:33 PM

^^ don't forget that Bobby Lu 3 million penalty! I've always had a feeling that Lu knew that would happen to the Canucks, so it was his final dagger to the organization for treating him that way

68style 10-07-2020 03:55 PM

That was a coach decision and if treating him poorly means giving him $64 million dollars and making him captain despite how ridiculous it was, well, sign me up for some abuse

BlackV62K2 10-07-2020 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9001824)
That was a coach decision and if treating him poorly means giving him $64 million dollars and making him captain despite how ridiculous it was, well, sign me up for some abuse


Jmac 10-07-2020 05:07 PM

Skaters - AAV vs Basic Stats over past 2 seasons (Min. 10 GP played in 19-20 and Min. 35 GP combined, ranks divided into forwards and defensemen)

https://scontent.fcxh2-1.fna.fbcdn.n...14&oe=5FA57A54

https://scontent.fcxh2-1.fna.fbcdn.n...38&oe=5FA35330

Infiniti 10-07-2020 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Obsideon (Post 9001819)
Paying $17.25 million for a group of 4th line grinders on the decline ... le sigh

Sutter, Brandon - $4,375,000
Ferland, Micheal - $3,500,000
Baertschi, Sven - $3,366,666
Roussel, Antoine - $3,000,000
Beagle, Jay- $3,000,000

Really biting us in the ass right now. Could really have used that cap to sign the players we really needed while giving the youngsters some sheltered playing time.

Can we just hand Benning his walking papers already..

highfive 10-07-2020 07:27 PM

Surprised they didn’t buy out sutter and baerstchi contracts. Maybe the oel trade is coming

Sw0op 10-07-2020 07:43 PM

buyout deadline is tomorrow @ 5pm ET...guess we'll know one way or the other about buyouts/OEL by then

spoon.ek9 10-07-2020 08:57 PM

I'm surprised no one noticed JV was given a QO. Stecher as mentioned above was not given one. Now, I wonder if they gave JV the QO so that prospective teams know exactly what they'll have to pay him. With Stecher, there's an outside chance that he could sign for less than what the QO would have been, saving the team some money. Flat cap era, we don't know what the outcome will be just yet. Question is, is GMJB smart enough to have done these things? :lol

Sw0op 10-07-2020 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by spoon.ek9 (Post 9001847)
I'm surprised no one noticed JV was given a QO. Stecher as mentioned above was not given one. Now, I wonder if they gave JV the QO so that prospective teams know exactly what they'll have to pay him. With Stecher, there's an outside chance that he could sign for less than what the QO would have been, saving the team some money. Flat cap era, we don't know what the outcome will be just yet. Question is, is GMJB smart enough to have done these things? :lol

Or they are hoping he can step in to the top 6 role as they can’t sign toffoli?

Unless he’s part of the OEL offer..

bobbinka 10-07-2020 09:55 PM

you'd also qualify if the player would have value to other teams, so you could still trade them. JV has value

spoon.ek9 10-07-2020 11:49 PM

If they think JV can be a consistent top 6 forward, they shouldn't be in charge of this team... pretty sure they aren't that dumb.

bobbinka 10-08-2020 08:49 AM

NJ puts Schneider on waiver for buyout

Jmac 10-08-2020 09:29 AM

JV was on pace for 42 points and his QO was $1.4M. That’s good value regardless of his other issues. I think he has enough issues that the Canucks will have a good case against him in arbitration should it get that far.

Stecher had a QO of $2.325M and he was in the same position as Hutton was. Used as a top 4 dman but really more of a 3rd pair guy. The arbitration award has to be above a certain amount or the team can’t walk away from it, so Canucks didn’t want to risk it. I get it but, as has been said many times, the garbage contracts have forced us to risk good players on the open market.

This post season may very well be the peak of the Benning era which is sad af given the high-end talent we now have. Self inflicted wounds.


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