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Razor Ramon HG 06-11-2021 02:36 PM

You guys are forgetting that the expansion draft was set up to make Vegas a competitive team from the start compared to expansion drafts in the past.

MarkyMark 06-11-2021 02:38 PM

Yeah maybe I'm old school in my thinking but if Vegas ended up winning the cup in their first year it would have made the league look like a joke

MG1 06-11-2021 02:56 PM

No, Vancouver Canucks are a joke...........

I remember the year Vegas made it........... almost. They made believers out of a lot of people. I was cheering them on. Who cares how they got there. It would have been great to see. I'm old school and I enjoyed watching every game.

BlackV62K2 06-11-2021 03:09 PM

Pretty sure the Kraken will be a better team than the Canucks on their 1st year. Sad

Gumby 06-11-2021 03:28 PM

If a ice hockey team in the middle of a desert wasn’t strange enough, imagine seeing the Stanley Cup being paraded down The Strip. :cry:

68style 06-11-2021 03:44 PM

Credit where credit is due, no other league has made a sports team work in Las Vegas

bobbinka 06-11-2021 03:55 PM

and who would've thought William Karlsson would go on to score 78 points after two seasons in the 20s... and to think Vegas GOT draft picks to ensure they took Karlsson, lol

punkwax 06-11-2021 04:10 PM

Knights were gifted an amazing situation. Kraken better not have it so good right off the hop.

DavidNguyen 06-11-2021 04:11 PM

Interesting to see what every one thinks of Vegas.

spoon.ek9 06-11-2021 04:42 PM

You know what, that first season I actually did cheer for Vegas. It was a great story; a bunch of essentially unwanted players banding together to make a cup run. Also, as an aside, it would have meant the Capitals would still be in the sad club with us (of which, we are the undisputed presidents).

This year, I'd rather see MTL advance but they likely won't. In the east, I'd like to see NYI advance just to change things up. Tampa is such a good team though, it'll be difficult lol.

DavidNguyen 06-11-2021 05:22 PM

Tampa with 19 million over cap. Pfft

AzNightmare 06-11-2021 05:49 PM

I don't want to see Tampa win again. I would like to see an underdog team win.

I also don't care for Vegas. Their fanbase has been spoiled since day one.
Sure, they never actually go all the way, but how nice is it to have a legitimate CUP contending team year after year after year. We're not even talking about just a playoff team, we're talking about being one of the cup favourites.

MarkyMark 06-11-2021 06:03 PM

The Disney movie version of Vegas is a bunch of players that their old teams didn't believe in, and then Emilio Estevez is inspired and coaches them to the Finals. In reality teams were pretty much forced to leave good players unprotected and with the cap Vegas was in a very favorable situation to build a decent team with no bad lines.

Don't get me wrong they did a great job, but it wasn't exactly Moneyball where they did something no one else thought of before, they just hand picked good players.

punkwax 06-11-2021 06:04 PM

I enjoyed the misfit storyline of VGK’s first year but I was sure as shit happy that they didn’t win the Cup year one.

Now it’s just funny/somewhat annoying how many “OG VGK fans” there are in Vancouver simply because they saw so much success early on. KEKW

More reason to think less of bandwagoner Canucks fans. Either you’re a fan or you aren’t. Cant decide to become one when the times are good IMO.

SkinnyPupp 06-11-2021 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punkwax (Post 9030288)
Cant decide to become one when the times are good IMO.

I disagree. It makes no sense to subject yourself to following a shitty team with shitty ownership and shitty management for years. All it does it bring negativity in your life. Just look at this thread, it's nothing but complaints, no positivity about the team at all.

IMO it's better to cut ties until things get better, instead of spending a bunch of mental energy on it. If someone calls you a bandwagon or whatever, who cares? Let them do all the complaining. It's not like things are going against them that they can't change, which makes them a loveable underdog. They're a huge corporation run by millionaires who are just trying to make money. Follow that sure, it's a product you might like. But to be a fan of that? Fuck that.

If the Canucks aren't trying to be better to earn our fandom, why should we be giving it to them?

"Bandwagon" fans should be respected, because they are the ones who will actually cause ownership to make drastic changes, instead of doing the status quo for years while 'hardcore' fans keep buying merchandise.

punkwax 06-11-2021 06:49 PM

A true fan is with their team through thick and thin. Fan is short for fanatic. You can disagree, and that’s fine. But you aren’t a true fan then.

To each their own.

I’ll also agree way too much negativity in the Canucks’ thread compared to when they were successful. Again, not true fans if they’ve turned their backs on the team IMO.

That said, true fans earn the right to complain as long as it’s not just parroting/talking shit but genuine comments and discussion.

MG1 06-11-2021 08:12 PM

55+ years of cheering for the team............it's time to move on. I guess I wasn't a true fan.

Benning and the owner killed it for me.


Wait, this means I'm no longer a canucks fan............... I'll check this thread just for shits and giggles.

Canucks so good.

Blah_Teggie 06-11-2021 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punkwax (Post 9030291)
A true fan is with their team through thick and thin. Fan is short for fanatic. You can disagree, and that’s fine. But you aren’t a true fan then.

To each their own.

I’ll also agree way too much negativity in the Canucks’ thread compared to when they were successful. Again, not true fans if they’ve turned their backs on the team IMO.

That said, true fans earn the right to complain as long as it’s not just parroting/talking shit but genuine comments and discussion.

There is WAYYYY too much negativity in this thread. Makes it hard to read. All I read is people complaining and bashing this team. How soon you guys forget just 10 short months ago, this was the best team in Canada. How soon you guys forget that Covid decimated this entire team. How soon you guys forget that arguably the teams best player didn't even play half the year. You take out the best player on any team (not including TB) and that team will suffer. There are young core guys on this team other teams would kill for. Petey, Brock, Bo, JT, Hoglander, Podkolzin on offence. Quinn and Rathbone on D and Demko in goal. Maybe I'm the only person on RS that's excited about the future of this team.

MarkyMark 06-11-2021 08:38 PM

For me personally, I support a product that entertains me. If it sucks I'm not going to invest any money or time into watching it. If it's good then sure, I'll watch it as well as support them financially. It doesn't mean I'm not a fan it means I have better shit to do than watch garbage.

It's been that way for any sport I watch. Why would I watch something terrible if I don't have to? There's no badge of honor being a fan through thick and thin, no one cares. If the Canucks win the cup we will all be cheering, and anyone who tries to say "I've been a fan the whole time!" will be drowned out by all the screaming, because who gives a shit.

Gumby 06-11-2021 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blah_Teggie (Post 9030299)
There is WAYYYY too much negativity in this thread. Makes it hard to read. All I read is people complaining and bashing this team. How soon you guys forget just 10 short months ago, this was the best team in Canada. How soon you guys forget that Covid decimated this entire team. How soon you guys forget that arguably the teams best player didn't even play half the year. You take out the best player on any team (not including TB) and that team will suffer. There are young core guys on this team other teams would kill for. Petey, Brock, Bo, JT, Hoglander, Podkolzin on offence. Quinn and Rathbone on D and Demko in goal. Maybe I'm the only person on RS that's excited about the future of this team.

Yes, there is a lot of negativity in this thread, but it’s not directed at the players. It’s mostly directed at management.

You can have the best players in the world but you’re not gonna win if management continuously makes questionable decisions.

Hondaracer 06-11-2021 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 9030289)
I disagree. It makes no sense to subject yourself to following a shitty team with shitty ownership and shitty management for years. All it does it bring negativity in your life. Just look at this thread, it's nothing but complaints, no positivity about the team at all.

IMO it's better to cut ties until things get better, instead of spending a bunch of mental energy on it. If someone calls you a bandwagon or whatever, who cares? Let them do all the complaining. It's not like things are going against them that they can't change, which makes them a loveable underdog. They're a huge corporation run by millionaires who are just trying to make money. Follow that sure, it's a product you might like. But to be a fan of that? Fuck that.

If the Canucks aren't trying to be better to earn our fandom, why should we be giving it to them?

"Bandwagon" fans should be respected, because they are the ones who will actually cause ownership to make drastic changes, instead of doing the status quo for years while 'hardcore' fans keep buying merchandise.

Aren’t trying to get better?

Your understanding of sports in general is wayyyy off lol.

Do you understand how many teams in professional sports have literally done every single thing they could to perform and never see results?

Teams like the Cubs etc. With bottomless pockets, millions of fans, all the draft picks in the world can go a century without a championship.

To think the Canucks haven’t tried to do everything they can to win is just ignorant. Are their efforts sometimes misguided? Perhaps. But the money snd will is there and that’s never been a question under this ownership, period.

AzNightmare 06-12-2021 01:29 AM

Time is expensive, hockey and Canucks is just entertainment.
If I'm having a good time, then I'll follow more passionately. If I'm not, then I'll reduce my investment to just watching highlights or checking in with this page as my source of info.

For sure as hell, I couldn't switch to another team though. It's Canucks or no hockey for me.

As for all the negativity, it's just really a form of showing you care. If you're not upset and disappointed, then you were never that invested in the first place.

sonick 06-12-2021 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punkwax (Post 9030291)
A true fan is with their team through thick and thin. Fan is short for fanatic. You can disagree, and that’s fine. But you aren’t a true fan then.

To each their own.

Look up the official definition of Fanatic and see if you'd want to be associated with that type of individual, for anything to be honest, not just a sports team.

Maybe in my younger years I'd care about being a bandwagon fan, but to Skinny's point as I've gotten older there's enough shit to deal with, don't need sports to be a bummer too. Things in life I can control I would prefer they bring joy and inspiration to my life, not the other way around.

That said, I continue to follow Canucks, the players, and the stories, but I'm not gonna waste 6-12 hours a week watching them lose most of the time.

fa·nat·ic
/fəˈnadik/
noun
a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, especially for an extreme religious or political cause.
"religious fanatics"

68style 06-12-2021 07:58 AM

I much prefer to be a device that pushes mildly cool air onto whoever I’m pointed at and gives girls Beyoncé hair

sonick 06-12-2021 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9030316)
I much prefer to be a device that pushes mildly cool air onto whoever I’m pointed at

:ahwow:

At first I thought you posted in the wrong thread lol


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