[chin3se604]

Going to get my supplements that i ordered off bb.com tomorrow. Among the order is ON Optimum Micronized Creatine Powder. This will be my first time taking creatine so i plan on doing a loading phase for 5 days, 20 grams a day.

When taking creatine does it need to be taken with meals or can i consume alone with water? its suggested that i should drink a minimal of a gallon of water a day, does it have to be with water or can it be with any other liquids such as milk and juice?

thanks

[dealt]

Going to get my supplements that i ordered off bb.com tomorrow. Among the order is ON Optimum Micronized Creatine Powder. This will be my first time taking creatine so i plan on doing a loading phase for 5 days, 20 grams a day.

When taking creatine does it need to be taken with meals or can i consume alone with water? its suggested that i should drink a minimal of a gallon of water a day, does it have to be with water or can it be with any other liquids such as milk and juice?

thanks

There's been a lot of talk about wether or not you really need to load up when starting creatine...some say yes, others say no. I loaded up and took it with warm water so the solubility would be better. Creatine that isn't dissolved is creatine that wouldn't be absorbed by the body.

If you were taking it with juice I would consider taking one that is high on the GI scale (grape juice) to get an insulin spike.
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[Jer3]

There's been a lot of talk about wether or not you really need to load up when starting creatine...some say yes, others say no. I loaded up and took it with warm water so the solubility would be better. Creatine that isn't dissolved is creatine that wouldn't be absorbed by the body.

If you were taking it with juice I would consider taking one that is high on the GI scale (grape juice) to get an insulin spike.
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ditto except the solubility part. never heard of that. as an alternative to juice, u can use dextrose which is pretty cheap. u can find it in the wine making section of saveons and other grocery stores.

[areyez]

planning on going to the states for a day on friday to do some shopping. i was wondering if anyone knew any good places to grab supplements while im down there, that would be cheaper than here(i usually get my stuff at xfuel or popeyes)...gnc pretty over priced here imo, but i unno what prices are like down there

[dealt]

planning on going to the states for a day on friday to do some shopping. i was wondering if anyone knew any good places to grab supplements while im down there, that would be cheaper than here(i usually get my stuff at xfuel or popeyes)...gnc pretty over priced here imo, but i unno what prices are like down there

order from bb.com, ship it to bellingham and pick it up on the way.

[bcedhk]

hows kaizen's creatine? saw it at Save-On for 14.99 for a 300g . I know is expensive compare to Optimum's powder ( i think is 9 bucks @ BB.com). but if it is decent then I rather get it locally.

[hal0g0dv2]

hows kaizen's creatine? saw it at Save-On for 14.99 for a 300g . I know is expensive compare to Optimum's powder ( i think is 9 bucks @ BB.com). but if it is decent then I rather get it locally.

that stuff is fine
i used it once and it worked great, it had a blue label right ?

[chin3se604]

here's what I'm currently supplementing on + some multi vitamins which isn't in the picture

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/3017/img1254tv.jpg

[chin3se604]

because im taking razor 8 as a preworkout which already contains 2.5 grams of creatine, do i take 2.5 grams of creatine powder post workout, or do i use the full 5 grams?
and
do you all use a teaspoon to measure out your creatine? I'm currently using my jack3d scoop =D

thanks

[Jer3]

pretty sure theres a scoop inside the creatine bottle. mine came with a bright green one. just dig deeper. also, i usually ignore the creatine thats in preworkouts when measuring so id go for the full 5g. thats just me though.

[jaemc]

^ all whey tastes amazing i love it... but even after 3 months i still got mad shiets. Dunno which protein to try out next

[Fcukedd]

What do you mix it in? You're probably lactose if you're mixing it in milk. Try whey isolate, it's lactose-free

[dealt]

because im taking razor 8 as a preworkout which already contains 2.5 grams of creatine, do i take 2.5 grams of creatine powder post workout, or do i use the full 5 grams?
and
do you all use a teaspoon to measure out your creatine? I'm currently using my jack3d scoop =D

thanks

Hey is that the old formula razor8 or new formula? What do you think of it? I don't feel the affects of stims that much so I am looking for a strong PWO supplement.

[XplicitLuder]

well just ordered gold's 100% standard whey protein and MP assault from bb.com when it arrives and what not will let you know how it went :)

[Fcukedd]

http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/744185/6133952/0/1213531436/Dried_Pork_Floss.jpg

For the Asians out there who know what dried pork floss is... 1/4 cup 120calories, 10g protein, tastes like heaven when added on rice, congee or just by itself :megusta:

[beanzzz]

pretty sure theres a scoop inside the creatine bottle. mine came with a bright green one. just dig deeper. also, i usually ignore the creatine thats in preworkouts when measuring so id go for the full 5g. thats just me though.

Really?!?! I bought a set of measuring spoons just to measure it because I didn't think it included one.

Just checked and didn't find anything. :(

[therubberguard]

planning on going to the states for a day on friday to do some shopping. i was wondering if anyone knew any good places to grab supplements while im down there, that would be cheaper than here(i usually get my stuff at xfuel or popeyes)...gnc pretty over priced here imo, but i unno what prices are like down there

i usually check out Super Supplements | Discount Vitamins, Supplements & Natural Products (http://www.supersup.com/) they have a store off exit 229. prices very reasonable and sometimes there sale prices are better than bodybuilding.com

[Jer3]

Really?!?! I bought a set of measuring spoons just to measure it because I didn't think it included one.

Just checked and didn't find anything. :(

hm upon further thought i might be wrong. this green measuring spoon looks strangely like the one from my glutamine bottle lol my bad. but hey if u got scoop for glutamine, itll most likely be 5g so use that like i did lol

[RRxtar]

How to select a multi and why yours is probably garbage!

I'm sick of seeing threads on what multi to buy and then reading responses suggesting the latest crap on the market as the best. The truth is most of the multi's today are a complete waste of money and not even worth taking so I decided to make this thread telling everyone how to select a multi. Hopefully it can be bumped often so people don't need to start new threads.

The FIRST ingredient you need to look at is the vitamin B12. The reason this is the most important is because 1) it's the most expensive component in the multi and 2) it needs to be in high enough doses to be effective. B12 powers your nerves and liver function and you need a lot more than the government recommended amount (6mcg).

The cheap, inexpensive form of B12 is called cyanocobalamin. This is an inert form of B12 meaning that the cobalamin molecule has been stabilized with a cyanide molecule. This is bad because when your body has to metabolize it, it breaks it down, strips away the front end molecule (which is cyanide) and then you have to detoxify that cyanide.

So why is this bad? Because first you have to detoxify the cyanide and then it robs energy from your cells just to make it useful which is difficult if you are tired, stressed etc. Not ideal when cutting.

What you want to look for is a co-enzyme form of B12. Methylcobalamin and adenosylcobalamin. The methylcobalamin is exactly what your liver uses as methylation reactions which power a lot of your natural biochemistry. Adenosylcobalamin is used to assemble proteins in your body and is a key marker of aging. If you don't have enough adenosylcobalamin your body can't make proteins and ages much faster.

So why is this better? Well if you have a form of a vitamin that is exactly what your body uses then it goes right into your metabolism and does its job.

So what if it's a blend of methyl and cyano etc? Well, this is simply the company being deceptive. Methylcobalamin costs literally 10 times the amount as cyanocobalamin so the company wants to use as much as the cheap stuff as possible but still have the word methylcobalamin on their label so you think it's good quality.

Food based nutrients (greens supplements).

Lets look at chlorella first. What does it do? It absorbs toxins, metals and lead etc. Perfect if you eat a lot of tuna because it will help absorb/break down the mercury in the tuna. Quality all depends on where it's sourced. Does it come from the centre of a lake or does it come from irrigation channels dug around the lake? Is it grown hydroponically? This is important because you don't want your chlorella to be laced with mercury and other crap when that's the reason you're taking it in the first place.

Minerals.

Lettuce be reality, all minerals are natural so that's not something to be worried about. What you want to look for is how the mineral is structured. So when a plant absorbs minerals and builds them into its structure we get organic minerals which are biologically bound in a way which is more compatible to how we, as humans, have evolved. Iron is a perfect example of this. If you're getting iron through your water for instance, that's going to be a highly reactive compound, potentially toxic and destructive to health. However, if you get iron from something like spinach, it's been structured with proteins and is in a form that your body knows what to do with it. So you want a form connected to proteins or a form biologically bound to something your body uses in its metabolism.

Magnesium.

Magnesium is in short supply in our food and is a critical mineral to your health for your heart, muscles etc.

Magnesium oxide is the cheap form of magnesium. The oxide itself is oxygen generating compound so when your body has to use it, it strips the oxide from the magnesium before it can use it and now you have oxides in your system. So how do you get rid of oxides? You use antioxidants (vitamin c, vitamin e, beta carotene etc). Why on earth would you want to waste your antioxidants on something you just took for your health? Makes no sense at all. Inert forms of magnesium such as magnesium gluconate, which is a sugar containing molecule of magnesium, is about 10% magnesium and 90% glucose. Not at all what your body needs.

So what are the higher quality forms of magnesium? Magnesium bis-glycinate which is magnesium double bonded to the amino acid glycine. This is the most expensive form of magnesium you can buy. So what does it do? Well, it's absorbed as a food, it doesn't even need to bind to mineral receptors. This is good because if your body isn't working quite right or you have competition for mineral absorption it doesn't matter. Next, because it's bonded to glycine it goes to your liver to help detoxification and to your nervous system to help it relax. So the magnesium goes straight in with it. This is critically important in people who are fatigued because cells all over your body have to pump magnesium inside themselves. However, the pump needs magnesium to work in the first place so if you're deficient in magnesium and your pump doesn't work you can take magnesium oxide until you're blue in the face and none of it will make it to your cells because you can't get it there. So the best way to make magnesium is to chelate it with things that go into cells. We also have magnesium malate (malic acid). Malic acid is the best compound on earth for muscle fatigue. Perfect for athletes. It will delay the onset of lactic acid so great for cutting and doing cardio.

What to look out for.

Amino acid chelate. This sounds great and it does absorb better but what is it? Well usually it's hydrolysed soy protein and you still don't know what form of magnesium was bound to that soy protein. Some companies use calcium formate which is a chemical used to accelerate concrete hardening. Not good.

Forms of multivitamins.

Capsules vs tablets? Capsules break down easier and it's easier to absorb the nutrients in them. Vege caps are the best hands down because the vegetable fibre they are made of comes from a nice vegetarian source. Gelatin is fine too but there have been a few scares that they may contain mad cow disease (gelatin comes from beef). Overall though, not something to worry about. Tablets generally use a glue like substance to hold it all together. Usually this is dicalcium phosphate which sounds nice but it's essentially just a glue. Then you have to coat the tablet and companies generally use a coloured coating which is intended to mask the smell. After that you need to glaze the tablet and companies use what's called pharmaceutical glaze (shellac) which comes from a bug. Tablets also tend to just run right through people due to the fact they are basically like a tiny piece of cement all glued together.

I hope this helps a few people out.

Cliffs:

Read the thread or continue wasting your money on worthless vitamins.
How to select a multi and why yours is probably garbage! - Bodybuilding.com Forums (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=136356991)

[chin3se604]

Hey is that the old formula razor8 or new formula? What do you think of it? I don't feel the affects of stims that much so I am looking for a strong PWO supplement.

its the new formula ( doesn't have 1 3 dimethylamylamine )

I'm on the same boat... i do'nt feel the affects of stims that much.

but as for the Razor8, its alright.. i only take half a scoop, 80 servings (1/2 scoops ) suggested by bottle

gives me enough energy to lift and push my last rep .. but my mental focus feels the same

if you want something strong i suggest you take 1mr ( that stuff gave me a strong mental focus )

but unfortunately you can only get the old formula from the states

[PK6o4*]

new formula 1mr was my first pre, 1 scoop not leveled off, over an 1hr after food, 30 mins before gym, and i feel little to nothing, might try 1.5-2+scoops.. i know forsure this is my first and last preworkout
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[Alpine50]

i was told not to take a full scoop or something of 1mr but i did it anyways and it gave me a huge burst i thought, all my lifts when up for about a good week but after that i found it stopped working for me.

im debating whether i should pick up a creatine and a weight gainer such as a mono creatine and like quickmass or if i should just pick up something like this:
Ultimate Nutrition Iso Mass Xtreme Gainer at Bodybuilding.com: Lowest Prices for Iso Mass Xtreme Gainer (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/un/isomass.html)

[RRxtar]

how about pick up some heavy ass weights, and eat more real whole foods.

[Alpine50]

Why's it when u ask help about a supp ppl give the same answer lol nvm I guess made a mistake asking pretty sure big guys that lift more than us both take supps.
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[dlo]

i was told not to take a full scoop or something of 1mr but i did it anyways and it gave me a huge burst i thought, all my lifts when up for about a good week but after that i found it stopped working for me.

im debating whether i should pick up a creatine and a weight gainer such as a mono creatine and like quickmass or if i should just pick up something like this:
Ultimate Nutrition Iso Mass Xtreme Gainer at Bodybuilding.com: Lowest Prices for Iso Mass Xtreme Gainer (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/un/isomass.html)

what im planning to do it use that exact same weight gainer, add another creatine source, and BCAA, fish oil and multi vitamins, should be good to go, diet properly and boom

[RRxtar]

Why's it when u ask help about a supp ppl give the same answer lol nvm I guess made a mistake asking pretty sure big guys that lift more than us both take supps.
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maybe you keep getting the same answer to the same question because its the right fucking answer.


post up your diet. i bet you i can add 1000 calories of clean food to it without even trying.



supps definitely have their place. replacing eating right isnt their place

[MarkyMark]

Why do people even need weight gainers, seriously most of them are full of garbage anyways you can get the same results eating more shit you actually like.
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[zubairali]

everyone start taking 1MR this shit is crazy

[Alpine50]

maybe you keep getting the same answer to the same question because its the right fucking answer.




post up your diet. i bet you i can add 1000 calories of clean food to it without even trying.



supps definitely have their place. replacing eating right isnt their place

Alright will do, well see
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[areyez]

everyone start taking 1MR this shit is crazy

correction... "that shit cray" lol

[strykn]

Buy 2 assaults get 1 free BB.com

[Nvasion]

they had a deal on aug 31 for buy 3 myofusion get 4th one free! that was a good deal! 80 bucks for 4

[JSilver]

Buy 2 assaults get 1 free BB.com

Copped that deal as soon as you mentioned it bro.

[Fcukedd]

they had a deal on aug 31 for buy 3 myofusion get 4th one free! that was a good deal! 80 bucks for 4

Why bring up a deal that is already over :okay:

[BrRsn]

I've been using 25mg ephedrine + 200mg caffeine + 5g creatine as my PWO. I love it, i still get good pumps, it gets me sweating, and it is super cheap.


Anyone else take casein before bed? Recommend me a brand that doesn't taste nasty + gritty and mixes well?

[strykn]

Copped that deal as soon as you mentioned it bro.

did you do ENDURANCE10 for additional 10% off? :fullofwin:

[XplicitLuder]

anyone here ordering anything off bb.com anytime soon ? my buddy who normally does it for the both of us (he's got the cc, not me =[ ) is not getting any til 2 weeks form now, and would love to get mine asap!

if anyone is buying some soon can you let me know and can you get what i need for me too ? ill pay you in advance if i have too or half/half whatever we work out. PM ME!

[Jer3]

son of a bitch. right when i order a week before, the assault deal comes up. :fuuuuu:

[areyez]

Buy 2 assaults get 1 free BB.com

can u mix and match flavours?do u guys usually ship it to point roberts? or do u guys just ship to ur house?

[Fobman]

my bb.com order just arrived
i order it to my house shipping was $75 fml lol

[Fcukedd]

^ holy hell what did you buy?

[Nvasion]

can someone here suggest a good post workout protein? also looking for a good multi vitamin.

[Fobman]

^ holy hell what did you buy?

creatine, glutamine, 4 tubs of protein, xtend, protein bars - going to last me awhile

[PUPPY]

gnc seattle was having a sale , picked up a 5 lb tub of protein
only $2 more expensive than bb.com , felt like a good deal :)

[PK6o4*]

can someone here suggest a good post workout protein? also looking for a good multi vitamin.

cant go wrong with optimum nutrition
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[JSilver]

did you do ENDURANCE10 for additional 10% off? :fullofwin:

No... :okay:

[Fcukedd]

can someone here suggest a good post workout protein? also looking for a good multi vitamin.

Look at the RRxtar's post a page back, and use it as a guideline to find one.

[chin3se604]

can someone here suggest a good post workout protein? also looking for a good multi vitamin.

any sort of whey isolate ... i use allmax isoflex mixed with water right after my workout

[chin3se604]

How do you guys take your creatine? I'm currently mixing it with my protein post workout, but the thing is, the creatine doesn't dissolve. When i consume it, its still gritty. Is this okay?

[hal0g0dv2]

^^^^^ no
Green tea or hot water
Thank me later , I know Strykn listen to me about it
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[jeffh]

^ this, ive been on the hot water program. tea is too much of a pain to put together haha

[BrRsn]

How do you guys take your creatine? I'm currently mixing it with my protein post workout, but the thing is, the creatine doesn't dissolve. When i consume it, its still gritty. Is this okay?

Does the creatine need to dissolve for it to work?

What I always do is just put the scoop in my mouth, and have a glass of water to get it down.

[PK6o4*]

^^^^^ no
Green tea or hot water
Thank me later , I know Strykn listen to me about it
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glad i saw this now gonna start taking creatine mono for 1st time on tuesday

that being said is it necessary to take mono with a sugar filled drink like gatorade or is just hot water fine
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[hal0g0dv2]

glad i saw this now gonna start taking creatine mono for 1st time on tuesday

that being said is it necessary to take mono with a sugar filled drink like gatorade or is just hot water fine
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hot water is fine, i dont see the point in sugar at all, it worked for me great with green tea no need to switch it up

[MarkyMark]

Is there any reason I should not start taking creatine? Anyone not taking it for a certain reason?

[Fcukedd]

Some people experience water retention from creatine, but it's only temporary. There's not really a reason why you shouldn't take creatine. It's cheap (200 servings for $30-40), effective, and proven to work.

[subordinate]

Anyone know of any damn good green-tea?

I've tried some from Fujiya but wasn't great - going nuts trying to find a taste similar to the one I had a while back that had bits of rice and green tea pieces/stems inside.

[Supafly]

Anyone know of any damn good green-tea?

I've tried some from Fujiya but wasn't great - going nuts trying to find a taste similar to the one I had a while back that had bits of rice and green tea pieces/stems inside.

try the brand "kirin" ??....i buy their milk tea....and although its expensive (3.75 for 500ml) shit tastes fantastic. Bought it from Izumiya in richmond

[XplicitLuder]

so im trying to make an account on bb.com so i can buy stuff and ship it to point roberts, but i dont have a valid phone # .. any suggestions ?

edit : nvm , i figured i dont put spaces

[RacePace]

Anyone know of any damn good green-tea?

I've tried some from Fujiya but wasn't great - going nuts trying to find a taste similar to the one I had a while back that had bits of rice and green tea pieces/stems inside.

There are several varieties of green tea, but the one you're probably after is gen mai cha, which has roasted rice in it

[gdoh]

^LOL

[incubus]

assaults getting reformulated and i have another 3 tubs lol

orange mango is next up :D

[dealt]

assaults getting reformulated and i have another 3 tubs lol

orange mango is next up :D

For better or for worse?

[Jer3]

assaults getting reformulated and i have another 3 tubs lol

orange mango is next up :D

tried to search up info on this but couldnt find any. any links? assault still remains on the top of my list when it comes to pwo drinks. also i remember u mentioning glycergrow awhile back. just wondering if its worth the money.

[incubus]

serving to price makes it very cheap and the tub last pretty long

only downside is the taste but its legit for pumps.

[Tegra_Devil]

okay....


so i tried getting:

UN Animal Paks
UN Animal Cuts
UN Animal Nitro
Optimum Opti-men

off of BB.com and i guess they dont ship this stuff to canada....wtf....ive seen people with this stuff, how do people get it here!?

[XplicitLuder]

okay....


so i tried getting:

UN Animal Paks
UN Animal Cuts
UN Animal Nitro
Optimum Opti-men

off of BB.com and i guess they dont ship this stuff to canada....wtf....ive seen people with this stuff, how do people get it here!?

they probably ship it to point roberts or blaine, and go and pick it up

[Tegra_Devil]

thx, i actually did some research looks like SVNcanada has it

[Fcukedd]

Yeah those supplements aren't illegal in Canada, and are on shelves of Popeyes, XFuel (SVNCanada), etc.

Anyone know why those supplements aren't allowed to be shipped to Canada? Could it be that it'll fuck up the Canadian prices?

[Tegra_Devil]

i dunno, but it woulda been a fuck load cheaper to order from the states EVEN with priority shipping lol

[XplicitLuder]

i dunno, but it woulda been a fuck load cheaper to order from the states EVEN with priority shipping lol

why not do it then ? :P

[Fcukedd]

Because they don't allow certain items to be shipped to Canada... :seriously:

[Honyoung]

they ship orange triad if your looking for a good multivitamin

[XplicitLuder]

Because they don't allow certain items to be shipped to Canada... :seriously:

i meant why doesn't he ship it to PR/Blaine , i guess i read his sentence wrong. haha

[Tegra_Devil]

ya, i heard orange triad and opti-men were both good.......the opti-men was on sale, so that one got the win!

dont really feel like sending it to PR/blaine and having to go pick it up....im a little lazy, so if i can ship it directly to my door for another $30, then ill do it :P

[Alpha Kappa]

Does anyone else here use T-Rexx? Apart from that i use protein powder shakes and hemp seeds :thumbsup:

[areyez]

does anyone taking a preworkout that contains creatine in it...as well as creatine post workout?is that fine?or is it too much that ur body wont absorb it?

[dlo]

^ my friend is taking c4 as a preworkout that contains creatine

[SkinnyPupp]

So what is everyone here doing for post workout? I used to think you needed to take those 'insulin spiking' drinks PWO, with aminos or whey hydrolysate, but I no longer think that way. Although I do think it helps recover faster, based on my experience when NOT taking them, I also think they make you fat (if you have a body type like mine)

Right now I am using the free bottle of ON "Hydro Builder" which is marketed as a PWO. Basically it's just a protein blend (whey, casein, egg) with a bunch of crap added to it (creatine, betaine for some reason, aminos, enzymes)

Since I am cutting weight, I don't want to do that 'insulin spike'. But it definitely feels like I recover slower. Maybe I'll get used to it.

What is everyone else doing for PWO?

[Tegra_Devil]

PWO....protein shake, Purple-k, animal nitro.

[Supafly]

postWO...i have a protein shake and a shitload of food....flaxseed bread, eggs, chicken, cheese ...whatever is infront of me; I'll eat.

[evo08]

Post Workout:
- Protein Shake
- BCAA's
- Food

[Stealthy]

Anyone here tried nutrabolic's isogainer?

is it any good?

[SkinnyPupp]

Anyone know of a good BLEND protein powder? Aside from that protein custom mix store. Something like Casein > Egg > Milk > Whey in that order (or at least with Whey at the end).

Muscle Milk possibly qualifies, but while it tastes damn good, it is crap for ingredients (lots of sugar, maltodextrin, garbage plant oils)

[RacePace]

Atlarge Nutrition, probably one of the original blended protein powders. They taste fantastic, trust me
AtLarge Nutrition - Bodybuilding & Fitness Supplements (http://www.atlargenutrition.com/)

Seem to have a sale going on right now too, input "fallcoming" for 15% off

[SkinnyPupp]

If mean mean their "Nitrean" that's way too much whey

Thx tho

Gotta watch for 'ingredient splitting'. It's a common thing in pet food, but you actually see it in protein supplements a lot.

By taking basic "whey" and splitting it into three different types (isolate, concentrate, hydrolysate) what they are doing is making it look like there is more other ingredients than there really are. But really, it's probably 80-90% whey, with a bit of casein, and a tiny bit of egg.

An even stronger example of this is ON "Hydro Builder" which splits it TWICE

[SkinnyPupp]

This one looks good, you can see what an un-split protein blend looks like, where they specifically say it is 80/20 casein/whey

Beverly Int. Ultimate Muscle Protein at Bodybuilding.com: Lowest Prices for Ultimate Muscle Protein (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bev/ult.html)

It still has the issue of containing more sunflower oil than MCT oil (they never specify what kind of oil this is, but I presume it's coconut oil or palm oil). It has some maltodextrin, but only 3g per scoop, so nothing to freak out over.

[Jer3]

was browsing bb.com earlier and found out that they are almost cleared out of the old formula of assault. the new one has 3000mg more of the proprietary blend. also, the serving size is down from 40 to 32 :okay:

[incubus]

its always been around 20-30 for full scoop and a lil under

[Excelsis]

quick question.. How much protein do i need to take so i could maintain my weight? Not looking to increase muscle mass but tone myself

[Fcukedd]

You don't eat a "certain amount" of protein to maintain your weight. It's meeting your caloric maintenance that will prevent you from losing weight.

quick question.. How much protein do i need to take so i could maintain my weight? Not looking to increase muscle mass but tone myself

tone myself

tone myself

tone myself

http://troll.me/images/next-zyzz/i-dont-want-to-get-big-just-toned-thumb.jpg

[Excelsis]

:fuckthatshit:
I'm working on muscle endurance at the moment .. and I usually take 1g of protein per lb I have
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[asahai69]

Yeah. I think its .8-1 gram per pound of body weight.
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[SkinnyPupp]

No it's 0.7619464637613191
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[asahai69]

awesome. i knew someone would know the exact amount

[spideyv2]

thinking about ordering some white flood off BB, anyone have any reviews?

[Phozy]

200ml of 2% chocolate milk + 100ml of 4% homo milk + scoop of unflavoured protein = :megusta:

[SkinnyPupp]

thinking about ordering some white flood off BB, anyone have any reviews?
hope you like caffeine

[spideyv2]

hope you like caffeine

i actually don't like coffee much lol..from what i read, the dosage isn't too bad

[SkinnyPupp]

You're looking at 250mg minimum per serving

[MarkyMark]

I don't think bb ships white flood to Canada, unless your grabbing it across the border
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[spideyv2]

^grabbing at PR

[Jer3]

i dont like white flood. it doesnt really give u a big burst of energy or pump like razor8 or assault. it also tastes like shit (well the raspberry lemonade flavor at least). it just made me sweat a lot more than usual

[incubus]

watermelon white flood but assault is better imo

[spideyv2]

This will be my first time using PWO tings. From what i read, jack3d, razor 8, etc can really fuck a noob up
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[chin3se604]

been taking creatine for a month now.... when should i cycle off this? and for how long?

thanks

[Fobman]

been taking creatine for a month now.... when should i cycle off this? and for how long?

thanks

you can take 3-5g everyday if you wanna keep ur gains. it's not steroids you don't need to cycle off and on.

[Wilso09]

I personally like white flood. Small scoop per serving (compared to assult). The added "pump" isn't that noticeable, but the energy seems very clean. I've tried other pre-workouts that just got me way to jittery and eventually crash. White flood gave me the boost of energy w/ out making me feel like I was going to have a heart attack!

Also, like someone stated before, for some reason I sweat like crazy on WF though.
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[kevin7352]

Thinking of taking creatine. specifically monohydrate.
But i was looking at assault and it says it includes 5g of creatine per serving. so if i took this, would it mean that my creatine is taken care of?

[SkinnyPupp]

On the days you take assault, yes. You'll want to take 5g of normal creatine on off days

[spideyv2]

Can anyone aware me on dat dere celltech
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[SkinnyPupp]

It is like steroids, only legal
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[incubus]

I personally like white flood. Small scoop per serving (compared to assult). The added "pump" isn't that noticeable, but the energy seems very clean. I've tried other pre-workouts that just got me way to jittery and eventually crash. White flood gave me the boost of energy w/ out making me feel like I was going to have a heart attack!

Also, like someone stated before, for some reason I sweat like crazy on WF though.
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Yeah white flood watermelon is a must try but better than assault that's a toss up but it is better bang for buck

the new promo is free multi wit assault new flavor is orange mango told u so :p

New formula has bcaas but I don't really mind since I use bcaa mixes like xtend and atomic 7

I'll keep you guys posted wen I use the new formula
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[SkinnyPupp]

Oh cool I didn't know Universal had a basic amino supp like that. Might give that a try once I run out of Xtend. I have used Xtend twice now - orange and grape. Orange was horrible. "Black Cherry Bomb" sounds pretty awesome :)

[incubus]

Xtend you gotta go watermelon the new one is really good

Yeah atomic 7 cherrybomb is pretty addicting
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[strykn]

got a tub of PHD wired for sale, 25$..... tempted to buy this orange mango + armor deal... :O

[spideyv2]

Tried the white flood today
Makes you sweat like crazy. Pretty burnt atm, i guess its the caffeine
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[KingDeeCee]

Fish Oils? What's the best brand for it? And does BB.com do free shipping over a certain amount?

[beanzzz]

Fish Oils? What's the best brand for it? And does BB.com do free shipping over a certain amount?

I usually buy ON since its the cheapest at 6 cents per serving. BB.com doesn't do free shipping but they usually have a 10% off coupon, I have my things shipped to Point Roberts so shipping usually isn't that expensive even after adding the cost of gas and my time.

[RacePace]

Fish Oils? What's the best brand for it? And does BB.com do free shipping over a certain amount?

Omega 3 Products | at Puritan's Pride (http://www.puritan.com/omega-3-products-128?Mcat=1&left&cm_sp=leftnav-_-homepage-_-omega_3_products&cm_re=HomePage-_-LeftNav-_-omega_3_products)

[kevin7352]

got a tub of PHD wired for sale, 25$..... tempted to buy this orange mango + armor deal... :O

got it! green apple:)

[KingDeeCee]

I usually buy ON since its the cheapest at 6 cents per serving. BB.com doesn't do free shipping but they usually have a 10% off coupon, I have my things shipped to Point Roberts so shipping usually isn't that expensive even after adding the cost of gas and my time.

Yeah I was going to order the 200 from ON, but found out shipping to Canada was exactly the same price for the item itself. Not looking to order anything else so running down to Pt Roberts would be useless.

Omega 3 Products | at Puritan's Pride (http://www.puritan.com/omega-3-products-128?Mcat=1&left&cm_sp=leftnav-_-homepage-_-omega_3_products&cm_re=HomePage-_-LeftNav-_-omega_3_products)

Thanks a lot. I hate how most fish oils don't show the actually amount of EPA and DHA tho. Looks cheap and good.

[penner2k]

Just placed an order for BPS Endosurge, PES Erase, Testoforce2 (I know normal DAA works for most people but if it dont work I'm stuck for 2 weeks with no option to be able to grab anything), ON ZMA, and 5 lbs of protein...
With shipping came to $180. Would rather just juice but I work in remote locations where they fly me in... They have the right to search my bags before I get on the plane and dont want to risk them finding needles and roids in my bag. Heard good things about this stack.

[SkinnyPupp]

Holy shit Penner is back!

[v850]

I'm looking for a weight gainer that will give me real results
i go to gym 4-5 times a week and i just finished my 5lb container of MHP Up Your Mass
and only gained around 7 pounds.
looking to spend under $70

[Fcukedd]

No gainer is going to give you "real results"
To gain weight, you have to TAKE IN AN EXCESS OF CALORIES (500 above caloric maintenance).

Most beginners/ectomorphs make the mistake of thinking mass gainers is the key to weight gain, when their diet isn't even in check.

I personally think mass gainers are a waste of money (speaking from experience).

You can easily make a homemade gainer (oats, banana, peanut butter, milk, chocolate protein powder) and it won't cost you half as much as a serving of MM or Quickmass for example.

[strykn]

your sitting here complaining that you ONLY GAINED 7LBS WITHOUT CELLTECH?

:fulloffuck:

But to help you out, best weight gainer:

http://www.spicygoliath.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Mojito-Chicken-Recipes.jpg http://thumbs.ifood.tv/files/Grilled%20Pepper%20Steak.jpg http://cookbrownrice.com/Uploads/brown-rice.jpg

fuck im hungry now

[hal0g0dv2]

I'm looking for a weight gainer that will give me real results
i go to gym 4-5 times a week and i just finished my 5lb container of MHP Up Your Mass
and only gained around 7 pounds.
looking to spend under $70
Are you serious
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[supershopper]

So I was at popeye's the other day, looking to buy some whey. I told him I previously used whey by leanfit (from costco) and he says "you should buy some better quality protein, there's a reason why it's so cheap" Is this true?

So far, I've gone from leanfit (5 lbs.) -> Allwhey (4 lbs.) -> Myofusion (current)

pretty much what Im asking is, does brand/quality matter? after all, protein is protein.

[RacePace]

I'm looking for a weight gainer that will give me real results
i go to gym 4-5 times a week and i just finished my 5lb container of MHP Up Your Mass
and only gained around 7 pounds.
looking to spend under $70

What do you currently weigh?

[Fobman]

So I was at popeye's the other day, looking to buy some whey. I told him I previously used whey by leanfit (from costco) and he says "you should buy some better quality protein, there's a reason why it's so cheap" Is this true?

So far, I've gone from leanfit (5 lbs.) -> Allwhey (4 lbs.) -> Myofusion (current)

pretty much what Im asking is, does brand/quality matter? after all, protein is protein.

same shit
some has more bcaa and glutamines some are aspartame free some has higher gram of protein per serving some are just name brands
also depends if it is whey prrotein or whey isolate or casein protein
some mixes better some mixes worse lol
some taste better some taste worse i guess when they say better protein meaning that

i read some article also OPTIMUM and DYMATIZE whey protein was 98% pure protein.. other brands not sure lol

[TripleXXX]

My current stacks are On gold's whey, Orange triad multi, Purple wrath and jack3d. Next month's stacks will be On whey, Orange triad, Assault MP, Bioforge V3 and Purple wrath.

[BlackV62K2]

Anyone have the latest bb.com coupon code? Going to be ordering soon.

[v1nce]

triceps10

[SkinnyPupp]

New flavour of Essential AmiNO :fullofwin:

http://assets.bodybuilding.com/store/prodimage/prod_35030/image_35030_450_white.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

I'm such a sucker, I ordered some of this

http://www.onnit.com/wp-content/themes/onnit/images/products/zoom/alphabrain_lightbox.jpg

AlphaBRAIN (http://www.onnit.com/alphabrain/)

:okay:

I'll let you know how it goes

[penner2k]

So I got my order from Orbit Nutrition today (was here on Friday but I just got home last night).. They actually marked down the value as $75 to save on taxes/duties....

$196 total for

5 lbs on protein
Testforce2 DAA
PES Erase
BPS Endosurge
ON ZMA

they also sent a sample packet of NOXplode

[Jer3]

I'm such a sucker, I ordered some of this

http://www.onnit.com/wp-content/themes/onnit/images/products/zoom/alphabrain_lightbox.jpg

AlphaBRAIN (http://www.onnit.com/alphabrain/)

:okay:

I'll let you know how it goes

let me know how it goes. dont think there are any others on the board that use nootropics other than me, u and strykn lol

[SkinnyPupp]

I don't use them nearly as much as I used to. I found the increased anxiety to be an issue. One thing is for sure, I will never forget the day I took an 'attack dose' of piracetam :eek:

[Jer3]

I don't use them nearly as much as I used to. I found the increased anxiety to be an issue. One thing is for sure, I will never forget the day I took an 'attack dose' of piracetam :eek:

explain. i took an attack dose of piracetam and choline citrate for a week. i was beamed most of the day and mellow as hell. it did the opposite and kept me calm and stress-free throughout the day lol. driving was kind of an issue though since it feels kind of like a mild high from mdma. it also prevented me from napping in the day.

[Stealthy]

Since I know supplemt protein doesn't affect too much for gains but I'm looking to pick up a new tub since my weight gainer is running out

Which should I go for Gaspari's Myofusion or ON 100% Whey?
Looking in terms of:

-Taste
-Mixability
-Whether or not it's okay to drink before bed

[RRxtar]

so whos riding a bicycle of celltech? i know a couple are.

[hal0g0dv2]

so whos riding a bicycle of celltech? i know a couple are.

I wish
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[SkinnyPupp]

New flavour of Essential AmiNO :fullofwin:

http://assets.bodybuilding.com/store/prodimage/prod_35030/image_35030_450_white.jpg
:sweetjesus:

[dn53]

any opinions on casein? did a search nothing comes up

[SkinnyPupp]

Unlike whey, it's not candy
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[604dragon]

could anyone help recommend where I could pick up a few good brands of multivitamins as well as fish oil and also list prices please.

[hal0g0dv2]

could anyone help recommend where I could pick up a few good brands of multivitamins as well as fish oil and also list prices please.

Popeyes, fuel
Call and ask, do some homework
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[strykn]

so whos riding a bicycle of celltech? i know a couple are.

starting febuary-ish, planning to ride to 250 :smug:

[Fobman]

could anyone help recommend where I could pick up a few good brands of multivitamins as well as fish oil and also list prices please.

optimum vitmains and fishoils not bad

[Fobman]

any opinions on casein? did a search nothing comes up

casein is good b4 going to bed that's it =)

[Fobman]

Since I know supplemt protein doesn't affect too much for gains but I'm looking to pick up a new tub since my weight gainer is running out

Which should I go for Gaspari's Myofusion or ON 100% Whey?
Looking in terms of:

-Taste
-Mixability
-Whether or not it's okay to drink before bed

i say go with ON100% mixes better and tastes better =)

[SkinnyPupp]

casein is good b4 going to bed that's it =)

Not to be rude but NO
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[Fobman]

Not to be rude but NO
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well i meant best b4 taking before going to sleep lol
i wouldn't take it in the morning and after workout

[SkinnyPupp]

Then you're buying in on the marketing of whey, rather than actual science
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[hal0g0dv2]

Bought casein once 4 years later not missing much
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[SkinnyPupp]

Well there you go then :thumbsup:

[spideyv2]

Cup of cottage cheese mixed with tuna before bed
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[asahai69]

uggh casein. you need to blend that shit. or your gonna be chewing......

[kevin7352]

Then you're buying in on the marketing of whey, rather than actual science
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:considered:

do tell

[hal0g0dv2]

protein powder is slowly getting pushed off the pwo market and you will be seeing lots of bcaa's products being used, i have not had a protein powder shake after a workout in a while. I still have them during the day here and there but slowly i am taking less and buying less as the months go on. I find bcca drinks heading in to half way threw the workout and after is much better. Surge recovery i have been rocking for years and its a great product.
Dont get me wrong protein has its place but i get most of it from food

[PK6o4*]

protein powder is slowly getting pushed off the pwo market and you will be seeing lots of bcaa's products being used, i have not had a protein powder shake after a workout in a while. I still have them during the day here and there but slowly i am taking less and buying less as the months go on. I find bcca drinks heading in to half way threw the workout and after is much better. Surge recovery i have been rocking for years and its a great product.
Dont get me wrong protein has its place but i get most of it from food

is there any place to get it locally? i heard you could only get biotest surge from tnation
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[JSilver]

well i meant best b4 taking before going to sleep lol
i wouldn't take it in the morning and after workout

You can take Casein any part of the day. It just breaks down a lot slower. I've had a tub on Casein for awhile but I do usually take it at night.

I started eating Cottage cheese, peanut butter an apple before bed time instead lately. Disliking the fact that Casein is super thick to drink.

[SkinnyPupp]

Want to fucking kick ass at HIIT? load up on beta alanine. That shit is for reals yo.

Take 5g 2-3 times a day. I put 1 scoop in my morning amino caffeine drink, and 5 get in my workout amino drink.
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[penner2k]

So update on my "stack" that I'm taking..

So far up 4 lbs in 3 weeks. My chest has dropped fat... my shoulders are getting noticeably more vascular. Lifts have started jumping in the last couple of days.
Sex drive is just stupid. Got a boner watching The Office last week........ from pregnant Pam :|
I also get "tunnel vision" when I see a girl.

I'm thinking blood work is gonna be needed in a couple of months after I finish these products to see what is low. With my stack I'm lowering prolacin, estrogen and raising test. Obviously something was out of wack before and this is bringing it back to "normal"

[hal0g0dv2]

So update on my "stack" that I'm taking..

So far up 4 lbs in 3 weeks. My chest has dropped fat... my shoulders are getting noticeably more vascular. Lifts have started jumping in the last couple of days.
Sex drive is just stupid. Got a boner watching The Office last week........ from pregnant Pam :|
I also get "tunnel vision" when I see a girl.

I'm thinking blood work is gonna be needed in a couple of months after I finish these products to see what is low. With my stack I'm lowering prolacin, estrogen and raising test. Obviously something was out of wack before and this is bringing it back to "normal"
What r u on ???
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[SkinnyPupp]

Horny Goat Weed

[mc25]

So update on my "stack" that I'm taking..

So far up 4 lbs in 3 weeks. My chest has dropped fat... my shoulders are getting noticeably more vascular. Lifts have started jumping in the last couple of days.
Sex drive is just stupid. Got a boner watching The Office last week........ from pregnant Pam :|
I also get "tunnel vision" when I see a girl.

I'm thinking blood work is gonna be needed in a couple of months after I finish these products to see what is low. With my stack I'm lowering prolacin, estrogen and raising test. Obviously something was out of wack before and this is bringing it back to "normal"

ughhh…waiter, ill have what hes having...

[kevin7352]

How's ON 100% Whey?
I don't wanna be an ON whore but i was planning on getting that, optimen, ON's fish oil, and ON's creatine mono

[Ch28]

Want to fucking kick ass at HIIT? load up on beta alanine. That shit is for reals yo.

Take 5g 2-3 times a day. I put 1 scoop in my morning amino caffeine drink, and 5 get in my workout amino drink.
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I remember the first time I took BA and I was like :ahwow: tingles like whoa :fullofwin:
Took a little too much once and threw up half way through my workout. :fuuuuu:

[penner2k]

Testforce2 (DAA)
BPS Endosurge
PES Erase

Testforce2 boosts test by up to 40%... BPS Endosurge lowers prolactin and frees up test, PES Erase lowers cortisol and estrogen...
Like I said I am starting to believe that maybe something was out of wack before and this has just sorta fixed it.

[hal0g0dv2]

do u like the test force
i have never tried a test booster maybe try one for fun

[RRxtar]

speaking of bloodwork. anyone get bloodwork and a physical from your doctor specifically in regards to training?

and to go a step further, anyone whos on dat der cycle do the same and talk to your doctor about it / get regular checks done while on? (pm if you want)

[penner2k]

do u like the test force
i have never tried a test booster maybe try one for fun

Its really hard to say if its working or not. One problem is I took 3 different products all at once. In theory they all complement each other well. I am planning on taking it again though. I might just try bulk daa next time though.

[strykn]

test boosters only work on getting ur test levels back to normal levels but you won't be passing ur natural levels with OTC test booster, there mainly used in PCTs ... although they do increase quality of sleep ( with all the zma in them) lol

( from a lot of wasted money + research)

[hal0g0dv2]

^^ thanks
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[JSilver]

Any promos for BB.com?

Thanks in advance!

[Nvasion]

try LIFTLIFE10

[SkinnyPupp]

http://www.revscene.net/forums/641793-latest-bodybuilding-com-coupon-code.html

[SkinnyPupp]

So I got my Alpha Brain yesterday, and took 2 around 7pm. They say to take 2 in the morning for mental alertness, and 1 more 6 hours before sleepytime for lucid dreaming. I didn't take any in the morning so I just took 2 in the evening.

I couldn't fall asleep at all until about 6am, even though I was dead tired. My mind was racing, and while I know I wasn't sleeping, I definitely had very lucid and vivid thoughts. Eventually I did fall asleep, and for a while had absolutely mind blowingly lucid dreams. Like I was drifting in and out of a dream state, totally conscious... It was weird because I felt like I know I was going in and out of a dream, and there was a sort of 'effect' as I drifted into a dream state. My thoughts became my dreams, and it was pretty cool.

Anyway, I had a pretty crazy dream based on Skyrim. But then I woke up at 9am and couldn't fall asleep again. So only 3 hours of sleep, although I have been having trouble sleeping in lately anyway.

Going to try a proper dose tonight. But I am amazed that it took effect so quickly. I have tried other 'dream support' supplements like DMAE, but they take a while to build up. This one works right away.

BTW when you order you get like 12 free samples to give out, which is half a bottle's worth almost, so it's a nice bonus. They want you to use them to join the affiliate program. I think it's a fantastic idea

[Excelsis]

order them online lol?

Combine these with with piracetam...








































Limitless? :troll:

[SkinnyPupp]

Yeah Alpha BRAIN (http://www.onnit.com/alphabrain/)

Free shipping worldwide too, and they'll give a full refund if you don't like it

[XplicitLuder]

Lately i've been taking double x as my multivitamin , you can youtube it if you need info. And man by far will never change to another one! lol normally i'd be sick twice by now, and specially since the whole fam came down with the flu but i've been healthy as a pickle :pokerface:

[Excelsis]

go out and condition yourself to run in the rain, feelsgoodman :sweetjesus:

[beanzzz]

Nutraplanet (http://www.nutraplanet.com) just started their Black Friday Sale! Picked up Focus XT, Xtend, Orange Triad, Orange OxiMega and White Flood. Was going to wait to see if Bodybuilding.com has a sale but the prices are just to good.

[incubus]

+1 for nutra plannet if you got a box in the states. Haven't dealt with them in awhile

Ps focus xt isn't that great
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[penner2k]

I prefer Orbit Nutrition over Nutra Planet... Same prices but cheaper/faster shipping

[PK6o4*]

my current stack:

trueprotein isolate banana - 3lbs
cytosport whey chocolate - 6lbs x 2
mutant mass triple chocolate - 15lbs
UN creatine mono - 1000g
EAS phosphate creatine 4.4lbs? unopened
BPI 1mr 48 servings? almost out
muscletech neurocore 40 servings
nutrabolics growth factor bcaas x 2
cod liver oil

i take the mutant mass morning and b4 bed, creatine with green tea after 7pm, 1mr and neurocore sometimes pre workout, nutrabolic bcaas during and after workout got 1 tub for free from reflex dunno why, switch it up between the trueprotein and cytosport whey for post workout trueprotein 3lbs i bought off a buddy for $15, cytosport whey i buy from usa costco $36-40 usd for 78 servings (6lbs) each scoop has 27g protein 3g carbs and 7g bcaas, EAS creatine i do not use got for free from reflex but might use it later not sure if its any good
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[Excelsis]

lol the only supplement which will help you the most is whey protein with the mass gainer if you have a high metabolism

preworkouts and creatine should be used once you've been lifting for like 2 years, results will be more drastic
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[Fcukedd]

Why do you take more than one preworkout and whey protein (besides MM)?
I don't even take protein anymore. I rather eat a good meal than down some powder.
Just taking a good creatine, preworkout, and a multivitamin. :fullofwin:

[kevin7352]

Pk6o4 that's a lot LOL

I'm on:
Myofusion Milk Chocolate (1 scoop post-workout)

Armour V (3 in the morning, 3 in the evening. IMO a daily serving of 6 capsules is ridiculous)

Assault Green Apple (once in a while I take half a scoop 30 min pre-workout)

Wild Alaskan Salmon Oil from Costco (recently started taking it. 2 in the morning, 1 at night. friend claims that fish oil does magic so i will see)

[Excelsis]

since i've never taken preworkouts and maybe never will, how does it feel?

High concentration of caffeine is banned from tkd competitions as well, unless i have a long period to get it out of my body.. and how does it feel when you cycle off?

[kevin7352]

I don't really see it working. This will probably be my one and only tub. I think sleep and food are much more important. Get your sleep and eat a high protein + carb meal before workout and you're good. If you have that covered though, throw pre-workout in and you'll be super sayan

[Excelsis]

which one are you taking?

[kevin7352]

Assault

But ya, moral of the story is don't rely your workout energy level on pre-workout

Edit: Speaking of Assault, Buy 2 get 1 free deal going on right now on bb.com
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/musclepharm/assault.html

[hal0g0dv2]

Fuck sick
Thanks
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[Nvasion]

buy 2 get 1 free assault is wicked. gonna buy it tonight!

[Excelsis]

where does assault place in pre workouts among jack3d and 1mr, razor etc..?

[incubus]

assault orange mango ftw

sorry skinny but whiteflood watermelon has nothing on orange mango taste like frutopia

il probly pick up some assault can never have too much but i do wanna try craze

assault is more clean focs energy as of 1mr razor 8 etc is a stimulant junkies thing its good but really too much caffeine i dont mind it but felt assault was just better

[SkinnyPupp]

I can only imagine how good that tastes. Might try it after white flood
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[Nvasion]

just ordered 3 assault orange mango!:fuckyea:

[kevin7352]

I'm selling my tub of Assault Green Apple if anyone is interested.
It's the new formula.
I've used about 5 half scoops.

[RRxtar]

just a heads up. Greens+ is 20% off at london drugs

[The_Situation]

What do you guys think bout apple cider vinegar? does it really work as magically as people say

[SkinnyPupp]

What do people say it does?

[Berzerker]

Why's it when u ask help about a supp ppl give the same answer lol nvm I guess made a mistake asking pretty sure big guys that lift more than us both take supps.
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And I'm pretty sure I lift more than most people and I don't take any supps at all.

Berz out.

[Berzerker]

That vinegar is supposed to be hard on the digestive system as it's very acidic.

Berz out.

[Phozy]

Cheap deals on protein anyone?
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[Ride]

Pretty cheap for 10lbs but only free shipping in the us
Optimum Nutrition Whey Protein 10 lbs CHOCOLATE NEW BAG | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Optimum-Nutrition-Whey-Protein-10-lbs-CHOCOLATE-NEW-BAG-/220892210520?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336e33a558#ht_1951wt_1141)

[G-spec]

hey do you guys know that little supplement store that used to be inside metrotown right by Sport Chek, by the 2 escalators there...

it's where i got my stuff like once every 6 months, i just went today and it's fckin gone, not even information could tell me anything about it...

what's the name ?? where did it go ??

[penner2k]

That vinegar is supposed to be hard on the digestive system as it's very acidic.

Berz out.

Actually its supposed to help with digestion. Also helps with clearing up your skin and helps a bit with fat loss.

[Excelsis]

can anyone compare between something like 1mr/jack3d/razor to assault? Doesn't have caffeine and any 1,3 DMA which is not supposed to be in my body during competitions

[hal0g0dv2]

assault is great, i use it a fair bit and i love it

[strykn]

will never go to anything else after assault. its da besttt

[SkinnyPupp]

Assault has no caffeine? ORLY
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[MarkyMark]

When you guys take assault are you still taking creatine on top of what's already in it?
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[JSilver]

Assault got me addicted

[chin3se604]

for assault... do most of you guys take 1 or 1/2 scoop?

dollar wise its quite pricey for 1 scoop :(

[PK6o4*]

any1 know if this is sold n e where locally

http://www.biotestedge.com.au/img/product_graphics/surgeRecovery_new.jpg

[Excelsis]

^ lol isn't that a piece of shit supplement?
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[hal0g0dv2]

surge recovery best everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
you can get in barley on supp sites but it is over priced. you have to get it off biotest website for the cheap price
i have used that stuff for ever as my post workout and i love it, i dont hype to much about supps but some of the bio test supps are really good

[hal0g0dv2]

old pic but yeah

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/903/065tw.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/065tw.jpg/)

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[hotong]

Here is mine

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8181/img0051uw.jpg

[hal0g0dv2]

fini bars
:sweetjesus:

[Phozy]

old pic but yeah

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/903/065tw.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/065tw.jpg/)

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I understand "bitotest whore " now... damn LOL

[strykn]

i gotta try this surge stuff... must be the secret elixir.. :fullofwin:

[incubus]

assault 1 full scoop is awesome and wit glycergrow is epic

orange triad is on sale too :fuckyea:

[PK6o4*]

for those of u taking zma
does it help make u feel and look less tired during the day? on top of giving you better sleep

i often get ppl telling me i look tired & prob cuz of dark lines under eyes & yawning a lot

i usually wake up @7am for school til 3 go home eat then go gym get back home 7pm eat do hmwk sleep around 12-2 :/
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[SkinnyPupp]

If you are sleeping from 2am to 7am then of course you are going to be tired and yawn all the time. No supplement is going to replace actual sleep. If you have to get up at 7am try to get to bed before 10-11pm.

[hal0g0dv2]

yeah i use to take zma back in the day but i was getting short sleeps now i just sleep for 8 hours and feel fine

[kevin7352]

If you are sleeping from 2am to 7am then of course you are going to be tired and yawn all the time. No supplement is going to replace actual sleep. If you have to get up at 7am try to get to bed before 10-11pm.

What if there's no way around that? Because my sleeping schedule is pretty much the same as his. workout wise, how much will performance and gains be effected cuz of this?

[SkinnyPupp]

What if there's no way around that? Because my sleeping schedule is pretty much the same as his. workout wise, how much will performance and gains be effected cuz of this?
For me the difference between a workout after 8 hours of sleep and 6 hours is night and day. And they say sleep is one of the most important things in training.

So you are doing homework from 7pm to 2am? That's a lot of homework :heckno:

[Phozy]

Sleep is a must, why not workout at 6am at your school gym? That way you have all afternoom and can sleep earlym the gym might suck but at least you get sleep. that's what I do at least, and I have work too.

Yeah, try getting in bed beforee 11, use lunch to do hw, etc, time management
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[XplicitLuder]

so seller decided to keep his tub of assault, anyone got one they want to sell ? preferably closed

[kevin7352]

wonder if this guy still has his http://www.revscene.net/forums/656477-fs-assault-pre-workout-sealed.html

[Gerbs]

Sleep is a must, why not workout at 6am at your school gym? That way you have all afternoom and can sleep earlym the gym might suck but at least you get sleep. that's what I do at least, and I have work too.

Yeah, try getting in bed beforee 11, use lunch to do hw, etc, time management
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:heckno: I have a hard enough time getting up at 8 LOL

[Excelsis]

Highschool, homework from 4-6? do whatever you want until 10 then go to sleep and get up at 7.. 9 hours of sleep is plenty, and pretty sure homework doesn't take more than 2 hours unless you're in an ib programme or ap classes. The only reason you'd lack sleep is procrastinating, gotta watch your time management lol

[penner2k]

I get up at 5.. Get back from work at 6:30... By 6:45 in the gym... in bed by 9.

[G-spec]

where can i get Therma Lean locally? it's illegal in Canada but I used to get it at supplement store in Metrotown but it's closed and nobody knows where it went...

West Pharm Therma Lean, looks like this... thanks


http://astronutrition.com/media/catalog/product/cache/6/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/T/L/TL/astronutrition.com-ThermaLean-Ephedrine-ECA-Stack---100-capsules-34.jpg

[Excelsis]

why would you use a fat burner...

Just take a preworkout or simply eat more frequently and drink a lot of water..

[SkinnyPupp]

It's like asking "why would you use steroids"? Because it works! It's just a matter of how far you want to fuck around with your body.

[strykn]

assault came today :fuckyea:

[JD¹³]

Best legal test booster I can buy in Canada? I've decided I want to go on something plus creatine for the next 3 months.

[strykn]

A-50 but have fun wasting your money lol... just get zma.

[JD¹³]

zma? I have to pass urin and blood tests so I can't have anything not over the counter / legal. Or are you saying a non-steroid test booster is essentially a waste of time?

[AAnthony]

ZMA is pretty solid. I take it before bed, and I get some craaazy dreams. The only issue, is that if you have Calcium within a few hours of having ZMA it wont be absorbed by your body. I've gotten into this habit of drinking a shit ton of milk at all hours of the day, I usually have a few huge glasses before bed. It's my routine.

So Halo/Strykn/and other GOMAD's ... how do you do milk and zma. I don't wanna have to chose 1 or the other, I want both!

[Jer3]

assault came today :fuckyea:

mine too :fullofwin: tradeeee. i love zma but whenever i take it, i start to get acne. when i stop for a week or 2 it clears up.

[hotong]

^ shit my assault should be arriving next week.

[strykn]

found out new assault doesn't have suma root..... http://pichour.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/what-the-fuck-man.jpg

[RRxtar]

i am still loving my superdumpMAX. like. alot. went from 2 scoops of twofiddy not doing anything anymore to 1 scoop of max making me ready to rock and roll.