[evo08]

Hey guys.. where can I get OxiElite Pro from locally?

I know it has the 1,3 in it which is banned in Canada.. but does anyone have any idea? (Popeye, gnc, reflex - don't have it)

Thanks

[Excelsis]

why not just use ec stack?

[evo08]

Used EC (NO "A") in the past.. I want to change it up a little bit!

[AAnthony]

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[Chicane]

No more wheycheap :( the sites been down for about 2 weeks, it automatically sends you to bodybuilding.com/clearance
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Although not as great as wheycheap was back in the day, here are a few more sites like it, all in one page. Good luck on finding the deals :thumbsup:
Supplement Deals of the Day - Supplement Deals (http://www.supplementdeals.net/dailydeals)

[BlackV62K2]

Hey guys.. where can I get OxiElite Pro from locally?

I know it has the 1,3 in it which is banned in Canada.. but does anyone have any idea? (Popeye, gnc, reflex - don't have it)

Thanks

You can get it from fitnessone.

[Gh0stRider]

polished off a tub of whey.... Need MOAR!
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[BrRsn]

polished off a tub of whey.... Need MOAR!
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Costco my friend! I was a total ON whey fanboy until i tried something different.

[Recon604]

Costco my friend! I was a total ON whey fanboy until i tried something different.

costco kraizen whey!!

[01Celica]

Costco my friend! I was a total ON whey fanboy until i tried something different.



Costco is the best for cheap whey protein! As long as you dont mind the taste... :sweetjesus:

[Fcukedd]

Got hookups to GNC, so I decided to grabbed myself two tubs of Syntha-6's chocolate peanut butter and :sweetjesus:

[J.C]

hi, i just got some creatine from popeyes and the guy told me to eat a lot of carbs, follow the instructions with the loading stage, and drink alot of water?
is this true? i searched it up, but i found a lot of reading, so i decided to post here :alonehappy:

[Stealthy]

hi, i just got some creatine from popeyes and the guy told me to eat a lot of carbs, follow the instructions with the loading stage, and drink alot of water?
is this true? i searched it up, but i found a lot of reading, so i decided to post here :alonehappy:

On a cold Friday afternoon, I had come home from school. I had been thinking of the gym all day. I was hungry, didn't have any lunch. In fact, I didn't eat because I spent the money. For the past month I was saving up for something. Something special which I bought at GNC. I was surprised they didn't ask for ID; I was pretty sure the cashier noticed how nervous I was. Anyways, my mom asked my how my day was when I got home, but I ignored her. I have more important things to do. I run to the bathroom and unpack my bag. In my school bag is a white plastic bag from GNC. I open the bag, first removing the receipt and flushing it down the toilet to get rid of the evidence. My heart was racing now. I unpack the creatine monster from the bag.

I wonder what people will be asking me when they see that I will be 50lbs heavier. Should I say I was just eating a lot? I remove the label from the tub and tear it into a thousand small pieces. I flush that down the toilet, too. It is time now. I run up to my room when my mom ask me what I am holding. I panic, sweat drips down my forehead and my teeth chatter. "Mom, it's just for a school project". "What project?" "I don't know mom I just started it!". A tear runs down my cheek. I run upstairs and open the creatine, scooping upservings into a clear water bottle. What have I gotten myself into? I fill it with water and drink it. There is no turning back now. The creatine monster is inside me now, it will control me. What should I do if I die? I cant let my family know about this.

I open the creatine tub and throw it all out the window; a white cloud of mysterious dust sparkles into the wind so graciously. I feel the substance taking control of me; I am now the monster. I walk downstairs, its time to work out; time to get big. Now I worry, I don't want to get too big; people will think I use steroids. I do use steroids. No I don't. Creatine. All I see is the weights now, I am almost downstairs when I hear "Do you want a cookie I just baked". I know I do not have time for this **** now. "No mom I do not want a cookie" I walk in the basement and drop to my knees before the weights, tears running down my cheeks. I turn to the right and look at myself in the mirror. Oh god, what have I done?


You don't need a loading stage, drink at least a gallon of water a day.

[J.C]

should i also up my carb intake?

[Alpine50]

Does pop eyes or reflex sell jack3D I walked into gnc and they didn't have it
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[Gh0stRider]

Costco my friend! I was a total ON whey fanboy until i tried something different.

ive always used ON whey. i dont know about trying costco whey

[Stealthy]

should i also up my carb intake?

Yeah, increasing carb intake will help you gain. A lot may be water weight however

[sevewone]

I am in Cali for 3 more weeks. Guys got any recommendations of any supplements I should pick up that are not available in BC?

[sevewone]

Yeah, increasing carb intake will help you gain. A lot may be water weight however

Depends. If hes a fat ass who's not strong Carbs are pointless.

[BrRsn]

ive always used ON whey. i dont know about trying costco whey

ON is good but the wait time is horrible so you always have to be aware of your supply/needs ahead of time. Try Kaizen Vanilla, experiment with adding more/less water to get the taste just right. I'm hooked, if you're near me I don't mind giving you a scoop .. its $44 IIRC :toot:

[Stealthy]

Depends. If hes a fat ass who's not strong Carbs are pointless.

If you look through his posts he's 141 lbs so that's not a factor.

[J.C]

^ stalker :O

[Stealthy]

^ stalker :O

http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/175834/black-guy-rainbow-chicken-dance.gif

[XplicitLuder]

Stealthy..wtf was that essay, this isn't motherfuckin english class :accepted:




but fuck that was an awesome story bro :fuckyea:

[jack3d]

ON is good but the wait time is horrible so you always have to be aware of your supply/needs ahead of time. Try Kaizen Vanilla, experiment with adding more/less water to get the taste just right. I'm hooked, if you're near me I don't mind giving you a scoop .. its $44 IIRC :toot:

how the kaizen compared to the ON in consistency? is it thicker? thinner?

[Gh0stRider]

the costco kaizen

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/sniperslayer/photo-5.jpg

vs the regular whey

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3315/grhealthwheyproteinpowd.jpg

[hal0g0dv2]

^^ that is a pretty good deal for the last one

[Gh0stRider]

picked up the kaizen. $50 :fuuuuu:

[spideyv2]

Anyone try "Assault" by Muscle Pharm?

[gdoh]

i think almost every1 in this thread has. its good shit i like green apple

[SkinnyPupp]

Anyone try "Assault" by Muscle Pharm?
I think I like White Flood better

[SkinnyPupp]

Time to do a bb.com order!

Going to buy some more protein, more Essential Amino (will try another bbcom flavour.. but it feels like it doesn't have as much caffeine TBH) aaaaaaaaaaand that's about it I think.

[Recon604]

Anyone try "Assault" by Muscle Pharm?

i love it! it tastes soo damn good, Raspberry lemonade. I feel the boost of energy when I work out. I become awake

[PK6o4*]

orange tastes like shit

[SkinnyPupp]

Orange Mango is fucking amazing

[Recon604]

i also have trial size for the orange mango, ill try it later. I guess ppl have different taste buds. And kevin7352, your just hating now LOOL.

[Kilinim]

Has anyone tried Six Star Whey Isolate from Superstore before? Thoughts?
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[LC21]

Has anyone tried Six Star Whey Isolate from Superstore before? Thoughts?
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Doesnt mix very well.

[neggo]

Ran out of my ON double chocolate whey protein which wasn't even all that great, IMO. Tastes just like any regular chocolate.

Probably going to pick up a tub of Kaizen tomorrow.

[BrRsn]

the costco kaizen

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/sniperslayer/photo-5.jpg

vs the regular whey

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3315/grhealthwheyproteinpowd.jpg



If you look at ingredients one comes from 'whey blend' and one comes from whey isolate. AFAIK whey isolate > whey blend (mostly whey concentrate which is a cheaper source of proteeenz).

Might be broscience but anything with whey blend = protein farts, indigestion, discomfort for me.

[van19]

Has anyone tried Six Star Whey Isolate from Superstore before? Thoughts?
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Taste like crap too
I would have to literally chug it down.

[insomniac]

Never taken protein before and I'm looking forward to start gaining more weight and exercising and working out on a daily routine.
What's something I should go buy? Do you guys have any tips and what am I supposed to start doing on a daily basis? I weigh 130 so I'm pretty damn skinny

Thanks in advance
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[PK6o4*]

food: chicken, beef, quick oats, brown rice, peanut butter, eggs, whole milk, brown bread, whole wheat pasta, protein powder, creatine , eat every 2 hours, protein powder post workout, creatine mono 5-10
g a day everyday

routine: starting strength/stronglifts
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[Supafly]

Ran out of my ON double chocolate whey protein which wasn't even all that great, IMO. Tastes just like any regular chocolate.

Probably going to pick up a tub of Kaizen tomorrow.

I still have half a tub of ON dc.....after i tried bio-x chocolate, the ON dc tasted like chalk.....lol

now I'm on Kaizen..tastes good when mixed properly....the GNC proformace max Cookies/Cream (free) is amazing too.

[hal0g0dv2]

Never taken protein before and I'm looking forward to start gaining more weight and exercising and working out on a daily routine.
What's something I should go buy? Do you guys have any tips and what am I supposed to start doing on a daily basis? I weigh 130 so I'm pretty damn skinny

Thanks in advance
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Yes food and lots of it
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[Recon604]

Never taken protein before and I'm looking forward to start gaining more weight and exercising and working out on a daily routine.
What's something I should go buy? Do you guys have any tips and what am I supposed to start doing on a daily basis? I weigh 130 so I'm pretty damn skinny

Thanks in advance
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I was also ur weight just weeks ago. Im 6' tall. I workout everyday and I started to make chicken breasts every mornin and night and I also cook myself two egg omelette. Drink protein after you finish working out.

I started to gain weight now. I am now 137lbs.

[spideyv2]

Tried assault yesterday. Tasted pretty good lol
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[neggo]

Assault tastes awesome. I just finished my tub of blue raspberry and will try a different flavor when I decide to pick some up.
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[kevin7352]

food: chicken, beef, quick oats, brown rice, peanut butter, eggs, whole milk, brown bread, whole wheat pasta, protein powder, creatine , eat every 2 hours, protein powder post workout, creatine mono 5-10
g a day everyday

routine: starting strength/stronglifts
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I'd personally do: chicken, beef, quick oats, peanut butter, tuna, bananas, yams, oranges, eggs, skim milk, greek yogurt, cottage cheese, wholegrain bread, protein powder, multis, fish oil, lots of dark green veggies, tons of water.
skip creatine because meh don't need it
brown rice cuz that shit's nasty
whole milk because unnecessary excess of fats

and starting strength for routine because it works, from experience muahaha

[TypeRNammer]

Tried assault yesterday. Tasted pretty good lol
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Don't you find the taste to be a bit chalky??
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[PK6o4*]

I'd personally do: chicken, beef, quick oats, peanut butter, tuna, bananas, yams, oranges, eggs, skim milk, greek yogurt, cottage cheese, wholegrain bread, protein powder, multis, fish oil, lots of dark green veggies, tons of water.
skip creatine because meh don't need it
brown rice cuz that shit's nasty
whole milk because unnecessary excess of fats

and starting strength for routine because it works, from experience muahaha

whole milk or no milk for me
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[Recon604]

Don't you find the taste to be a bit chalky??
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did you mix it well? I use a chopstick and stir around at the top of the mixture. It breaks down the powder at the top more

[hal0g0dv2]

put the water in first then powder
you will never have a problem

[Recon604]

i just tried the mp assault orange mango. I do find it chalky and doesnt mix as well as the lemonade rasberry. Im stickin with the lemonade raspberry, it tastes way better than the orange mango.

Myofusion on bb.com is on sale, comes with creatine.

[Excelsis]

it arrived :alonehappy:

package seems to have been opened before though :suspicious:

[BrRsn]

just bought two tubs of assault, back on PWO's .. time to start killing workouts again :fuckyea: ephedrine + caffeine are starting to lose their effect on me

Got the lemonade flavor because everyone raves about it

[strykn]

just bought two tubs of assault, back on PWO's .. time to start killing workouts again :fuckyea: ephedrine + caffeine are starting to lose their effect on me

Got the lemonade flavor because everyone raves about it

wow we shoulda split bb order phaggot. :alone:

[hal0g0dv2]

Yeah me also
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[BrRsn]

wow we shoulda split bb order phaggot. :alone:

Sorry bro :okay: was an impulse decision friends showed me the sale + 10% off coupon :alone:

[JD¹³]

Just picked up a new tub of QuickMass, Assault, and some JetMass creatine monohydrate. Time to kick it up another notch and push for that 8-plate DL, should be in top form for the summer.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c74/Thai555/Image%20Macros/iamready.png

[hal0g0dv2]

8 plates holly shit ^^ what can u dl now

[JD¹³]

8 plates holly shit ^^ what can u dl now
8 total so 4 a side, not 8 plates per side :lol

[hal0g0dv2]

ohhhhhhhh ok yeah i was like pretty sure you are close to 4 haha
use to plates per side

[Wenis]

I know a lot of people really like MP Assault on this forum, so here is a link. One tub for $25.99 ($10 savings compared to bb.com)
Whey2Buy.com - Supp' specials like you've only dreamed about! (http://www.whey2buy.com/)

I think the deal changes around 3am pst. So get it fast.

[Recon604]

I know a lot of people really like MP Assault on this forum, so here is a link. One tub for $25.99 ($10 savings compared to bb.com)
Whey2Buy.com - Supp' specials like you've only dreamed about! (http://www.whey2buy.com/)

I think the deal changes around 3am pst. So get it fast.

tat is not MP assault, tat is only the creatine...

[PK6o4*]

It WAS assault but the deal ended at 3am last nite if u read what he said
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[blkgsr]

anyone else experience sleep issues while taking creatine?

[red kryptonite]

I want to start taking a muti vitamin.
Orange Triad or Animal Pak?
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[hal0g0dv2]

I want to start taking a muti vitamin.
Orange Triad or Animal Pak?
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Orange. Triad if you really want one of the two

There is cheaper and just as good out there tho

[604dragon]

^ could you recommend me any good and cheap multivitamins and wheres a good place to purchase it? thanks

[beanzzz]

I think the most common one's are Orange Triad by Controlled Labs, Opti-Men by ON and Animal Pak by Universal. I usually stick to Opti-men since it comes out cheaper per serving, and since I'm an ON whore. Not a big fan of Universal products since you have to take a number of pills, I think one serving of Animal Pak is 11 pills or something like that.

[SkinnyPupp]

I like Now Adam over Optimen
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[beanzzz]

Was looking to try Adam but it was on backorder when I placed my order at BB.com, and it seems to be twice the price if I buy it locally.

[red kryptonite]

Orange. Triad if you really want one of the two

There is cheaper and just as good out there tho
not really set on the 2, i just hear alot ppl are using the 2. open to suggestion. the best bang for the buck is always good.

[Fobman]

i got unopened sealed orange mango assault if anyone wants it ? i'll sell it for $35

[Gh0stRider]

anyone ever use Bodybuilding Supplements & Discount Supplements for Weightlifting (http://www.bestpricenutritiononline.com/) ???

[neggo]

Picked up PhD Wired today since I ran out of Assault about a month ago.

I wonder how it compares? Assault worked fairly well for me. Can't wait to try the Wired, though.

[mowontech]

so I read the whole thread here and still not quite sure..
what is better to take? ON amino energy or just BCAA?
Or the assault with BCAA? Or ON amino energy with BCAA?
I'm currently taking omega 3-6-9 which i'm planning on switching to omega 3
and ON multivitamins, ON cassein daily, ON whey as post workout..

[SkinnyPupp]

Depends on your goals. Most likely you should just take the 'basics' I posted before in this thread. Since you read the whole thread, you know where that post is ;)

[hal0g0dv2]

so I read the whole thread here and still not quite sure..
what is better to take? ON amino energy or just BCAA?
Or the assault with BCAA? Or ON amino energy with BCAA?
I'm currently taking omega 3-6-9 which i'm planning on switching to omega 3
and ON multivitamins, ON cassein daily, ON whey as post workout..

Cassein is a waste of money
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[mowontech]

I take cassein because i mix it with fruits in the morning since whey is fast absorbing... my goal is just to be fit and not bulk since i already weight quite a bit (180 pounds ish). I do workout regularly about 3 times a week with 2hrs each workout... so if i were to take something more daily, bcaa and amino energy seems to be a better option than assault? Thanks in advance
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[Verdasco]

I am thinking about taking some mass gainer, does the extra calories and other stuff they put in really help gain mass? or should i just stick to whey isolate protein and eat

5'8 140lbs here :alone:

[SkinnyPupp]

Cassein is a waste of money
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Wat
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[BrRsn]

I am thinking about taking some mass gainer, does the extra calories and other stuff they put in really help gain mass? or should i just stick to whey isolate protein

5'8 140lbs here :alone:

You should stick to real food or make your own weight gainer shake at home. If you already have whey, get some peanut butter, nutella, bananas, whole milk and combine with a scoop or two of whey. Experiment and see what you like/what tastes good. I can almost guarantee you that peanut butter, milk, any good quality chocolate whey = amazing taste.


Have 1 with breakfast and have one post workout. It's really upto you when you wanna take the shakes but deff. take one post workout, lift heavy and EAT.

[Verdasco]

good idea, just bought peanut butter 2 days ago and 2% milk today. Guess i should experiment.

[BrRsn]

good idea, just bought peanut butter 2 days ago and 2% milk today. Guess i should experiment.

If you don't like PB try it w/ nutella shits bomb :sweetjesus:

[Verdasco]

my god.. great idea on the shake :sweetjesus: first time blending it with milk and blending in two teaspoons of peanut butter. :sweetjesus :sweetjesus: had banana but not rype :okay:

I will be drinking this every morning + night; but with post workouts, should I buy some mass gainer or just use my whey isolate mixed in with water? I do not think leaving my milk in my bag and brining it to school will be a viable choice. :heckno:

[BrRsn]

my god.. great idea on the shake :sweetjesus: first time blending it with milk and blending in two teaspoons of peanut butter. :sweetjesus :sweetjesus: had banana but not rype :okay:

I will be drinking this every morning + night; but with post workouts, should I buy some mass gainer or just use my whey isolate mixed in with water? I do not think leaving my milk in my bag and brining it to school will be a viable choice. :heckno:

Post workout just have whey shake with water + some carbs

[Verdasco]

guess i will be buying more banana for shakes + post workout :awwyeah:

does it matter if i use crappy peanut butter brand cause my family might use it lol. friend siad i should use natural *adams* is it really better?

[jack3d]

just pick up whatever has more calories since thats what youre aiming for

[instantneedles]

anyone know if its ok to mix creatine and whey isolate for a pre-workout?

[SkinnyPupp]

I prefer taking creatine post workout, as it can dehydrate you a bit. Normall ythis isn't a big deal but in addition to stims, that is quite a bit of dehydration.

Nothing that says you can't do it though :)

[instantneedles]

but when you workout, won't u be drinking plenty of water anyways? Because I thought the whole point of creatine was to give you enough ATP for that extra rep or two. But how do you take your creatine skinnypupp? do you mix it in with your protein shake or do you take it individually?

Also, when exactly is the best time of the day to take creatine? I don't want the creatine to end up being secreted into my urine and end up wasting money

[jack3d]

I use to take creatine post workout with my protein shake but changed it up lately. Been taking it morning with gatorade or whatever sweet drink I can find on hand. Have felt no difference in the gym, still killing it everyday

[SkinnyPupp]

but when you workout, won't u be drinking plenty of water anyways? Because I thought the whole point of creatine was to give you enough ATP for that extra rep or two. But how do you take your creatine skinnypupp? do you mix it in with your protein shake or do you take it individually?

Also, when exactly is the best time of the day to take creatine? I don't want the creatine to end up being secreted into my urine and end up wasting money
Creatine has no acute effect - it needs to be built up in your bloodstream to have an effect. In other words, the dosage you take now is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things - it's the overall accumulation of dosages that matters.

I take mine in my post workout whey, and on off days I just throw a scoop in my morning amino drink. 5g a day

[tubbyboi]

Cassein is a waste of money
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Why is It it a waste? I take it before i go to bed as i heard it feeds me the protien as im sleeping and my bodys in recovery mode. I was just gonna buy myself another tub hahaha. Would it be better if i just drink my isolates at night as well then?

[hal0g0dv2]

Why is It it a waste? I take it before i go to bed as i heard it feeds me the protien as im sleeping and my bodys in recovery mode. I was just gonna buy myself another tub hahaha. Would it be better if i just drink my isolates at night as well then?

do u really think that cassein shake is making a huge diff when u go to bed, take a isolate its fine does not really matter. im just saying the price of cassein is crazy and im not paying that for something that is not going to do much in the long run of things that is all

[hal0g0dv2]

take creatine with green tea in the morning and before workout like hour or 2 , bingo banggo

[Supafly]

getting back into PWOs....

1mr or MP assualt or jacked3d???

unless there is better stuff that i can buy off the shelf....cannot not order anything atm.

[hal0g0dv2]

getting back into PWOs....

1mr or MP assualt or jacked3d???

unless there is better stuff that i can buy off the shelf....cannot not order anything atm.

i picked up some mutant pump, its pretty good was getting tired of assult, its cheap gets me jacked up cant complain and taste good

i also mix it with beta alanine

[wreckless]

Why is It it a waste? I take it before i go to bed as i heard it feeds me the protien as im sleeping and my bodys in recovery mode. I was just gonna buy myself another tub hahaha. Would it be better if i just drink my isolates at night as well then?

where do you buy your casein, and how much is it?


do u really think that cassein shake is making a huge diff when u go to bed, take a isolate its fine does not really matter. im just saying the price of cassein is crazy and im not paying that for something that is not going to do much in the long run of things that is all

casein (slow absorbing) vs whey (fast abosrbing) aside, do you think having a protein shake before bed is good?

[hal0g0dv2]

where do you buy your casein, and how much is it?




casein (slow absorbing) vs whey (fast abosrbing) aside, do you think having a protein shake before bed is good?

Sustained / Time Released Proteins - Supplements Canada.com (http://www.supplementscanada.com/protein_time.html)

run you about 80 bucks for 4 pounds

[wreckless]

Sustained / Time Released Proteins - Supplements Canada.com (http://www.supplementscanada.com/protein_time.html)

run you about 80 bucks for 4 pounds

whether it's whey or casein, do you believe a shake before bed is essential for muscle repair?

[hal0g0dv2]

whether it's whey or casein, do you believe a shake before bed is essential for muscle repair?

No

[Jas29]

hey i didn't go through the whole thread so sorry if the question has been answered but are there any cons to taking a multivitamin like opti-men?

only other supp i'm taking is isoflex

and whats a good store to buy supplements from locally

[Stealthy]

hey i didn't go through the whole thread so sorry if the question has been answered but are there any cons to taking a multivitamin like opti-men?

only other supp i'm taking is isoflex

and whats a good store to buy supplements from locally

Since you're from Surrey as well, I go to Reflex (along 76 and King George). The store owner is a chill guy, will help you out if you have questions.

[jameskore]

I take "abs" from natural ingredients. It is proven to strengthen your abs while burning those excess fat on top. Amazing product. Give it a try guys.

[gdoh]

is CLA any good or is it a waste of money??

do any of you drink green tea? where and which brand do you get?

[SkinnyPupp]

CLA is a waste of money in terms of fat loss IMO

Been hearing good things from trustworthy sources about raspberry ketones, another non stim. Haven't tried it myself though

Raspberry ketone increases both lipolysis and fat... [Planta Med. 2010] - PubMed - NCBI (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20425690)

Anti-obese action of raspberry ketone. [Life Sci. 2005] - PubMed - NCBI (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15862604)

[wreckless]

i'm currently using Kazein whey protien post workout, and each scoop contains 35g protien, 1g carbs, 150 cals.

post workout i've been taking 2 scoops in my shake, which is 70g of protein.

is that too much? i've been reading the body can only absorb so much protein in one sitting, etc.

[Supafly]

i'm currently using Kazein whey protien post workout, and each scoop contains 35g protien, 1g carbs, 150 cals.

post workout i've been taking 2 scoops in my shake, which is 70g of protein.

is that too much? i've been reading the body can only absorb so much protein in one sitting, etc.

your body can only absorb aprox. 25gr of protein a serving.....IIRC.

[SkinnyPupp]

Did another bb.com order today. All the basics - Essential Amino, Universal Atomic 7, 5-HTP, some Monster Milk (buy 2 get 1 free whoo!). Also going to give Raspberry Ketones a try since it's cheap.

[dyan]

Looking for a place to get some protein powder. Whey gold standard. I dont really know the prices but would $128 be a reasonable price for 10lb?

[dlo]

I paid 80$ for 10lb of isomax weight gainer lol 130$ is too expensive

[hal0g0dv2]

I paid 80$ for 10lb of isomax weight gainer lol 130$ is too expensive

he is looking for whey not a weight gainer

[Stealthy]

Looking for a place to get some protein powder. Whey gold standard. I dont really know the prices but would $128 be a reasonable price for 10lb?

If you're talking about Optimum Nutrition I suggest you find a different brand. There's so many other great options on the market and cheaper than what you would pay for ON.

[wreckless]

looking for a good weight gainer that wont cause too much bloating/fat etc.

i've been told to get this Popeye's® Supplements Canada ~ Nutrabolics IsoGainer (http://www.popeyescanada.com/inf_nutrabolics_isogainer.php)

any thoughts? someone else recommended mutant mass but i'm not sure whats in it..

Let me know, thanks.

[hal0g0dv2]

YOur not going to get much a reply on weight Gainers from us
Most are garbage and ya
Oats fruit peanuts butter and whey there u go

[dyan]

he is looking for whey not a weight gainer

So what are your insights? Since you know so much :p

I really don't know since I'm new to this

[The_Situation]

So what are your insights? Since you know so much :p

I really don't know since I'm new to this

$128 for 10lbs is expensive.

[Stealthy]

So what are your insights? Since you know so much :p

I really don't know since I'm new to this

The "standard" price for whey should be $10/lb

[wreckless]

YOur not going to get much a reply on weight Gainers from us
Most are garbage and ya
Oats fruit peanuts butter and whey there u go

i guess i was just looking for extra calrois and carbs.

right now i eat little to no carbs, and take a low cal/low carb whey protein (kazein from costco).

i eat a lot of veggies/chicken/eggs/fish, but am having trouble gaining mass.

i figured a weight gainer before and after my workout would give me the carbs i dont get from my low carb eating habits.

[Excelsis]

i guess i was just looking for extra calrois and carbs.

right now i eat little to no carbs



how are you expecting to bulk

[hal0g0dv2]

So what are your insights? Since you know so much :p

I really don't know since I'm new to this

On what ?
He is looking for whey not a garbage weight gainer that does nothing
Go on any supps site and any 10 pound whey will be cheaper the ON

[gdoh]

Did another bb.com order today. All the basics - Essential Amino, Universal Atomic 7, 5-HTP, some Monster Milk (buy 2 get 1 free whoo!). Also going to give Raspberry Ketones a try since it's cheap.

which ones did you buy???

i was looking at this one AI Sports Nutrition Raspberry Ketones at Bodybuilding.com: Lowest Prices for Raspberry Ketones! (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ai/raspberry-ketones.html)

[wreckless]

how are you expecting to bulk

true.

i'm just not sure which carbs to eat throughout the day without putting on fat.

thats why i figured a carb shake would help.

[hal0g0dv2]

true.

i'm just not sure which carbs to eat throughout the day without putting on fat.

thats why i figured a carb shake would help.

the one you posted is only close to 700 calories.
trying eating oat meal with peanut butter on top that will be close to 700 calories right there, or eat whole wheat pasta, gainers are pointless when food is right beside you

maybe if u are already eating 5000 calories and want 1000 liquid calories then yeah but start with food

[Supafly]

So I went and bought an out of the ordinary PreWO....
"Bull Dose Extreme"

Heres my review on it....coming from a late 1MR user.

The Pumps: I like it....I was lifting heavier and for a longer duration....deff noticed the change when not on pwo...did chest yesterday, and up'd the weights by 10lbs on the dumbells and up'd my machine bench by 45lbs...lol

The Buzz: Wasn't really buzzing....just meh...but had energy to work the heavy bag for 20mins after my chest/back workout.

Taste: Grape. I liked it...kinda tasted like those fizz candy thingys.

Mixability: Hrmm.....25gr in 8oz of water, there was a little bit of floaties but nothing an extra oz of water swished around couldnt clean up.

----
After effects: Didnt get a crash after; so that was a bonus. Took at 300pm, was still up at 1130pm....might tone down the dosage by a couple of grams.

Will comeback for a results review in 3 weeks.

[infin8]

My Current stack:

Fish Oil
Multi Vitamin
EGCg (Green tea extract)
Creatine Mono
Jack3d/MP Assault
FOOD

[RacingMetro92]

Anyone have any suggestions for supplements for someone trying to start cutting? Also, would it be a good idea to replace meals with protein shakes? If so, what brand works, there are a ton out there and I don't want to burn money on something that isn't good.

[gdoh]

for cutting id have to say:
multi vitamin
greens
protein
bcaa

i dont think replacing meals with protein would a very good idea, food > shakes

[hal0g0dv2]

Yeah don't live off shakes u will be a skinny faggot and not the good one

[RacingMetro92]

Alright. Any good multivitamins/supplements you guys recommend? I've been looking into optimen but other Han that for stuff like greens, proteins and bcaa I'm ignorant and just going off ratings from bodybuilding.com. I'm 255 right now and I'm looking to go down to 225 before going up again (training for rugby to get fit and change positions)

[BlackV62K2]

I like Orange Triad for a multi.

[gdoh]

^ +1 for orange triad

greens - controlled labs

bcaa - scivation

[hal0g0dv2]

https://www.svncanada.com/product/765/maxx-essentials-whey-maxx-10lbs

10 pounds 76

[RacingMetro92]

^looks like good value. Would I still need to pick up a separate bcaa? Description of it says it already has them.

[hal0g0dv2]

^looks like good value. Would I still need to pick up a separate bcaa? Description of it says it already has them.

yeah i would
pills works good

[gdoh]

^looks like good value. Would I still need to pick up a separate bcaa? Description of it says it already has them.

correct me if im wrong but it says aminos per 100g of protein and 1 scoop = 34g so wouldnt all those values be divided by about 3 per scoop?

and i think quite a few proteins have aminos but not very much for anything

just get scivation bcaa =]

[RacingMetro92]

correct me if im wrong but it says aminos per 100g of protein and 1 scoop = 34g so wouldnt all those values be divided by about 3 per scoop?

and i think quite a few proteins have aminos but not very much for anything

just get scivation bcaa =]

Thanks for the advice.

And by bcaa you mean this stuff right? SciVation Xtend at Bodybuilding.com: Lowest Prices for Xtend (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sv/xtend.html)

[Excelsis]

I don't think bcaa's are not useful whatsoever, if you have pwo to last you through the workout, why the fuck do you need bcaa's...

also switching to now multi's NOW ADAM at Bodybuilding.com: Lowest Prices for ADAM (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/adam.html)

[red kryptonite]

Can I mix 2 different brands of fish oil?
Is it ok/beneficial exceed the recommended amount?

I just started taking Controlled Lab's Orange Oximega fish oil, at $20 a month. My friend told me, since I'm working out hard, I should be taking more than 4caps a day. I should up it to 6caps. So what was $20 a month has turned to $30. He said if I wanna save a few extra bucks, and I do (protein, pwo, multivits, fish oil, green tea extract plus a gym pass all adds up to be pretty expensive) I can just go buy those no name brand at Costco or Walmart $500 caps for $20 and mix the 2. So 3caps of the Controlled Lab and 3caps of no name.$

Any truth to this, or is it just bro-science?

[Excelsis]

Driven Sports Craze Supplement Class Action Lawsuit (http://www.topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/1715-driven-sports-craze-supplement-class-action-lawsuit)

lol, but i doubt that it really has them in it, prolly some other company wants to put them down

[Recon604]

Can I mix 2 different brands of fish oil?
Is it ok/beneficial exceed the recommended amount?

I just started taking Controlled Lab's Orange Oximega fish oil, at $20 a month. My friend told me, since I'm working out hard, I should be taking more than 4caps a day. I should up it to 6caps. So what was $20 a month has turned to $30. He said if I wanna save a few extra bucks, and I do (protein, pwo, multivits, fish oil, green tea extract plus a gym pass all adds up to be pretty expensive) I can just go buy those no name brand at Costco or Walmart $500 caps for $20 and mix the 2. So 3caps of the Controlled Lab and 3caps of no name.$

Any truth to this, or is it just bro-science?

increasin ur caps of fish oil will do no dmg to u. omega 3 is fatty acid and it helps repair muscles. So if you have a good and hard workout, it will help you lots. Doesnt matter where you get fish oil, its just controlled lab's fish oil has more omega 3 in them than any brand names u get at Costco or any drugstores. Tats why controlled labs costs lil more.

If you want to save money, I say go buy no name brands. At very least your still intakin omega 3.

[SkinnyPupp]

Don't buy cheap fish oil :rukidding:

[Recon604]

jamieson fish oil compared to controlled labs is a cheap brand too, the fish oil is g2g.

read : http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=143489813&page=1
Costco fish oil is alright to use and is cheap. He wants to save money so tbh you can buy cheaper fish oils for yourself.

[gdoh]

Thanks for the advice.

And by bcaa you mean this stuff right? SciVation Xtend at Bodybuilding.com: Lowest Prices for Xtend (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sv/xtend.html)

thats the one

[Recon604]

thats the one

dont waste your money on that... its a intraworkout drink so your suppose to drink it while you are working out and it pumps you up by givin u more energy and focus.

I personally think intraworkout is just a way for supplement companys to earn more money. If you need more energy, get preworkout drink. Now if your buyin tat for jus bcaa, I recommend tat you dont. BCAA is over hyped, you dont need more of it (most of them are uselesss). Whey protein already contains the essential amino acids.

[SkinnyPupp]

One thing about ordering from t-nation is that the bottles look so much bigger on the site than they actually are :fuckthatshit:

[gdoh]

i drink it when i train jiu jitsu and it works god for me. i dont want to have a pre work out for training only if im super tired i might. but imo it works great keeps me hydrated and now it has electrolytes so even better

and whey protein doesnt have much aminos in them

[SkinnyPupp]

and whey protein doesnt have much aminos in them

:rukidding:

[Recon604]

i drink it when i train jiu jitsu and it works god for me. i dont want to have a pre work out for training only if im super tired i might. but imo it works great keeps me hydrated and now it has electrolytes so even better

and whey protein doesnt have much aminos in them

whey protein contains the essential aminos, you dont need all of it.
And I see, you use it to train jiu jitsu. Tat would definately benefit you in your case. Your doing a lot more work.

If you're doing workout, just stick with preworkout and drink water while working out.

Just my opinion tho

[Recon604]

One thing about ordering from t-nation is that the bottles look so much bigger on the site than they actually are :fuckthatshit:

true that LOL, where do you guys order your supplements? Just wondering. I still think bb has the best prices especially if you ship them to point roberts, Im actually goin there to pick up my order today!

[hal0g0dv2]

^^ bb is pretty solid with prices
one of the cheapest for sure, and if u go to point Roberts even better

[SkinnyPupp]

Yeah I order from bb.com direct. This t-nation I had sent to a friend in the states and he forwarded to me. That way shipping was $16 instead of $70 :fuckthatshit:

[gdoh]

If you're doing workout, just stick with preworkout. Drink water while working out.


ill drink water while working out and see if i notice a difference

[hal0g0dv2]

Yeah I order from bb.com direct. This t-nation I had sent to a friend in the states and he forwarded to me. That way shipping was $16 instead of $70 :fuckthatshit:

shit
i really need a friend in the states
:alone:

[kevin7352]

I got a 10lb bag of ON double rich chocolate a while ago. Getting tired of the taste.
I'll weight out and sell however much left i have for $12/lb
pm me

[SkinnyPupp]

One thing that pissed me off about my last order is the mocha flavoured milk protein I got is caffeinated.. 200 mg per 2 scoops! That means I can't take it at night, so I have 6 lbs of the stuff that is going to take a long time to go through

[hal0g0dv2]

One thing that pissed me off about my last order is the mocha flavoured milk protein I got is caffeinated.. 200 mg per 2 scoops! That means I can't take it at night, so I have 6 lbs of the stuff that is going to take a long time to go through

Wow I've never heard of that, that is kinda weak

[Supafly]

One thing that pissed me off about my last order is the mocha flavoured milk protein I got is caffeinated.. 200 mg per 2 scoops! That means I can't take it at night, so I have 6 lbs of the stuff that is going to take a long time to go through

wtf...thats messed up shit. add a 100mg to that and you got a new PreWO :troll:

[red kryptonite]

Thanks for the info on the fish oils

I guess I'll just stick with CL

[LC21]

Who here has taken aminocore? Shit taste hella yummy.

[SkinnyPupp]

After having 2 scoops of this protein this morning.. I don't think it has 200mg caffeine. Sure doesn't feel like it.

[Recon604]

i just picked up MP combat, cookies n cream. God it tastes bad... maybe bcz its my first time tryin cookies n cream and the after taste is awful! but ill manage

[SkinnyPupp]

First Alpha GPC workout today.. downing a capful now (900mg GPC)

I have taken it twice - once after my last workout, and 2 caps yesterday. No acute effects that I noticed (except maybe it made me a bit sluggish yesterday) but we'll see how it goes today

Really need to get my hands on some 'racetam to make full use of all this choline

[Slifer]

Are Creatine X3 Six Star any good? Got some for cheap.

http://astronutrition.com/media/catalog/product/cache/6/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/i/o/iovate_six_star_pro_nutrition_-_professional_strength_creatine_x3_elite_series_60 _cplts/astronutrition.com-Iovate-Six-Star-Pro-Nutrition---Creatine-X3-Elite-Series---60-caps-31.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

You trolling? :suspicious:

[Slifer]

No, sorry I'm kinda new at this..

[Phozy]

If youre new at this, you shouldnt be investing in creatine for now imo.

Hey Skinny, Dr. Oz hails raspberry ketone as a weight-loss miracle | Shine On - Shine from Yahoo! Canada (http://ca.shine.yahoo.com/blogs/shine-on/dr-oz-hails-raspberry-ketone-weight-loss-miracle-181651445.html)

Raspberry Ketone :)

[hal0g0dv2]

If youre new at this, you shouldnt be investing in creatine for now imo.

Hey Skinny, Dr. Oz hails raspberry ketone as a weight-loss miracle | Shine On - Shine from Yahoo! Canada (http://ca.shine.yahoo.com/blogs/shine-on/dr-oz-hails-raspberry-ketone-weight-loss-miracle-181651445.html)

Raspberry Ketone :)

old news, everyone will be on that
then next year, horse piss will be the next best thing

[SkinnyPupp]

Yup stick to clen if you want real results

[hal0g0dv2]

I think raspberry keytones were in hot rox skinny

[SkinnyPupp]

Yup, along with guggul, yohimbine, and caffeine. All proven supplements, but nothing like clen or eca . If you have anxiety, the yohimbine will fuck you up

[Slifer]

No answer to my question? :alone::okay:

[SkinnyPupp]

Slifer the answer is no. It is garbage. Even if you got it cheap (like under $5) it still isn't worth taking.

My advice is, if you have the body type that allows you to take a TON of sugar every day with no consequences, then go ahead and finish the bottle quick. If you are overweight at all, or watching your diet, throw it away or give it to some pinner you know

[jack3d]

slifer, whats the ingred list? As long as it have creatine monohydrate.. take it. also, doesnt matter if your old or new to working out, taking creatine will help

[SkinnyPupp]

slifer, whats the ingred list? As long as it have creatine monohydrate.. take it. also, doesnt matter if your old or new to working out, taking creatine will help

It's pure sugar with some creatine and other random nonsense added to it.

[Slifer]

Yeah its got creatine monohydrate/phosphate. 2510mg per serving apparantly.

[mnash]

Can anyone recommend me a good gainer I can buy locally?

[hal0g0dv2]

Gainers are not the best ^^^^
Most ppl are going to tell u they suck, and they do

[mnash]

What would you recommend?

[SkinnyPupp]

Food

[hal0g0dv2]

Food

X132131foreveryone

[Recon604]

Can anyone recommend me a good gainer I can buy locally?

dont waste ur money on weight gainers, they are expensive as fck. Like everyone said eat more food. Eat oakmeal and cashews or anythin tat is a type of nut, if your lookin to bulk,

[jack3d]

drink milk, easy way to get your calories in. eat mcdonalds if you are thin as shit (srs). a double cheese perfect macros for bulking

[thegentleman]

Hey guys, I've been cycling the EC Stack since January and have gotten extraordinary results. Lost approx 25 lbs since the beginning of the year. (I was at 165lbs at 5'5", now I'm at 140ish) I still have a bit of flab I'd like to get rid of and have the abs poke out a bit more. Looking to get more lean by summer as well as continue to live a healthier lifestyle. Any other supplements I can take to help me reach my goal?

Currently taking:

ON Multivitamins
EC Stack (Cycled of course)
NOW Green Tea Extract
Allmax Omega-3
ON Whey Protein Isolate

I'm looking into BCAA's & ZMA's. Any input on adding these two supplements to what I'm already taking?

[SkinnyPupp]

Trolling? :suspicious:

[hal0g0dv2]

Hey guys, I've been cycling the EC Stack since January and have gotten extraordinary results. Lost approx 25 lbs since the beginning of the year. (I was at 165lbs at 5'5", now I'm at 140ish) I still have a bit of flab I'd like to get rid of and have the abs poke out a bit more. Looking to get more lean by summer as well as continue to live a healthier lifestyle. Any other supplements I can take to help me reach my goal?

Currently taking:

ON Multivitamins
EC Stack (Cycled of course)
NOW Green Tea Extract
Allmax Omega-3
ON Whey Protein Isolate

I'm looking into BCAA's & ZMA's. Any input on adding these two supplements to what I'm already taking?


4months of ec stack that is a while man

[Excelsis]

Hey guys, I've been cycling the EC Stack since January and have gotten extraordinary results. Lost approx 25 lbs since the beginning of the year. (I was at 165lbs at 5'5", now I'm at 140ish) I still have a bit of flab I'd like to get rid of and have the abs poke out a bit more. Looking to get more lean by summer as well as continue to live a healthier lifestyle. Any other supplements I can take to help me reach my goal?

Currently taking:

ON Multivitamins
EC Stack (Cycled of course)
NOW Green Tea Extract
Allmax Omega-3
ON Whey Protein Isolate

I'm looking into BCAA's & ZMA's. Any input on adding these two supplements to what I'm already taking?

if you aren't getting enough zinc or magnesium from your diet go ahead, and buying separate zinc/mag caps are cheaper too

don't know much about bcaa's

[thegentleman]

4months of ec stack that is a while man

Not consecutively. I just finished my 2nd cycle this week. I break for 3 weeks in between.

if you aren't getting enough zinc or magnesium from your diet go ahead, and buying separate zinc/mag caps are cheaper too

don't know much about bcaa's

I've just read BCAA's help speed up the process of healing and giving you a boost in gains.

[hal0g0dv2]

what is your current diet like ^^^^
plays a big role in dieting and getting lean

[thegentleman]

Trying to shred the last 5 lbs seems to be the hardest. I have a daily eating routine Mon-fri due to work.
Breakfast is usually a bowl cereal w/milk.
First coffee break would be a granola bar or a fruit (banana/apple)
Lunch, I usually pack whatever my mom makes the night before but with careful portioning. Usually consists of a meat dish w/ brown rice and the occasional green veggies.
After work: Another small snack just to fill the stomach up a bit
Preworkout protein shake then go workout. Postworkout protein shake.
Dinner, like I said usually what my mother makes. She understands I'm trying to be healthy so she doesn't really load on the greasy stuff.

Due to late nights and late mornings I probably eat only twice a day. And usually one of them is eating out..

I avoid anything white. (Potatoes, bread, white rice) Only thing I drink is water & lots of it. And milk in the morning/night.

I never had a sweet tooth before, but lately I've had huge cravings for chocolate/candy. I was a snack fiend before. Chips, fried snacks, anything salty I would munch before bed, which gave me my gut. I just want to get rid of that extra 2 inch flab!!

[PK6o4*]

i think when cutting you should have low cal low carb high protein foods, rather than cereal, granola bars etc, correct me if I'm wrong

tuna, cottage cheese, greek yogourt, are great

[Excelsis]

Beta alanine and craze arrived today

Should i start taking 4g of beta alanine twice daily?

[Expresso]

Trying to shred the last 5 lbs seems to be the hardest. I have a daily eating routine Mon-fri due to work.
Breakfast is usually a bowl cereal w/milk.
First coffee break would be a granola bar or a fruit (banana/apple)
Lunch, I usually pack whatever my mom makes the night before but with careful portioning. Usually consists of a meat dish w/ brown rice and the occasional green veggies.
After work: Another small snack just to fill the stomach up a bit
Preworkout protein shake then go workout. Postworkout protein shake.
Dinner, like I said usually what my mother makes. She understands I'm trying to be healthy so she doesn't really load on the greasy stuff.

Due to late nights and late mornings I probably eat only twice a day. And usually one of them is eating out..

I avoid anything white. (Potatoes, bread, white rice) Only thing I drink is water & lots of it. And milk in the morning/night.

I never had a sweet tooth before, but lately I've had huge cravings for chocolate/candy. I was a snack fiend before. Chips, fried snacks, anything salty I would munch before bed, which gave me my gut. I just want to get rid of that extra 2 inch flab!!

Maybe try those calorie calculators and base your diet off that.

[bcrdukes]

o1flipkid - How long have you been working to cut the 5 lbs? And what does your workout consist of?

[thegentleman]

i think when cutting you should have low cal low carb high protein foods, rather than cereal, granola bars etc, correct me if I'm wrong

tuna, cottage cheese, greek yogourt, are great

I've been planning to get at these for a while now. But I've been making excuses not to get them. Will definitely buy some this weekend.

o1flipkid - How long have you been working to cut the 5 lbs? And what does your workout consist of?

Just about a month. Maybe I'm not giving it enough time and I'm just trying to rush it. I know that it does take time.

I aim to workout 6 days a week. But since you know, "shit happens" it usually gets cut down to 4-5 a week.
Currently doing The Spartacus workout found on menshealth 3 times a week.
Then on days in between I have an arms/chest/abs routine.

[SkinnyPupp]

Someone take flipkid under their wing :)

[Excelsis]

1 scoop of craze..

wow you're out of this world, you don't worry about anything, and you have a complete tunnel vision

noticed heart beating way faster and time seems to tick away very slowly


wonder what this + piracetam will do to me

hope i don't die

[hal0g0dv2]

cant wait to get mine soon

[SkinnyPupp]

My next PWO stack is going to be

1/2 scoop Assault
1 cap Alpha GPC
750mg Oxyracetam
100 mcg hyperzune A

Just need to do some ordering... bb doesn't carry any racetams

[Recon604]

i get fckin horrible diarrhea from MP combat and Dymatize Elite, but I dont get any from Myofusion. Anyone know?

[SkinnyPupp]

i get fckin horrible diarrhea from MP combat and Dymatize Elite, but I dont get any from Myofusion. Anyone know?
Doesn't matter, just use what works

[butters]

Noob question, is it ok to mix assault with half a scoop of concret or is it just too much?

[hal0g0dv2]

^^ don't mix per workouts
I mean you could , do it then give us a review

[Excelsis]

1.5 scoop of craze plus 3g of piracetam..

weird I think I focused myself more with 1 scoop alone

[Berzerker]

French Vanilla Coffee and Vanilla weight gain powder.... :megusta:

Berz out.

[spideyv2]

1 scoop of craze..

wow you're out of this world, you don't worry about anything, and you have a complete tunnel vision

noticed heart beating way faster and time seems to tick away very slowly


wonder what this + piracetam will do to me

hope i don't die

Lol this. I seem to sweat like crazy even after im done lifting and showering

[ShadowBun]

do you guys have your BB orders shipped to Canada or one of these border receiver places?

dunno which one of them are good (the receiving places)

[hal0g0dv2]

Always Canada to lazy to go to states and it's not 2 bad shipping

[JSilver]

do you guys have your BB orders shipped to Canada or one of these border receiver places?

dunno which one of them are good (the receiving places)

Point to Point Parcel. 5 second over the Point Roberts Border. I live near the Knight St Bridge and it takes me roughly 15-20mins to get there. Doesn't hurt to save $30+ on shipping.

It really depends on HOW much and HOW heavy the items you are ordering to decide whether or not you believe shipping direct to your address is worth it or not.

Be prepared to get taxed though. I got away with an order over $500+ twice before. After purchasing on a bi-weekly bases they caught on and taxed me every time of course. Bastards.

[instantneedles]

How exactly is craze different than caffeine or any other stimulant for that matter? If craze is a stimulant itself, is it also a diuretic?

[SkinnyPupp]

How exactly is craze different than caffeine or any other stimulant for that matter? If craze is a stimulant itself, is it also a diuretic?
It is caffeine and orchid extract. Not sure what the big deal of orchid extract is, but I've never tried it myself, so...

[MarkyMark]

So I tried craze and I felt it the first time but the second day even with one and a half scoops I felt normal...will see how it goes next time I guess. Definitely not feeling the "i feel like im on E or cocaine" like some people have reported.

[Excelsis]

i think first day you combine the hype of craze everyone's talking about as a placebo effect and use it in synergy with the stimulant

then after you rely on the stimulant to do the job for you, but then it doesn't work that way lol

[DC5-S]

I stopped using pre workouts last year and I notice no difference in training aside from stupid tingling sensation in my neck

[Jer3]

My next PWO stack is going to be

1/2 scoop Assault
1 cap Alpha GPC
750mg Oxyracetam
100 mcg hyperzune A

Just need to do some ordering... bb doesn't carry any racetams

never knew u used nootropics with preworkouts skinny. hows it working out for u? i find it adds a lot of focus and endurance to my workouts.

[SkinnyPupp]

I'll report in when I finally try it :)

Been using Alpha GPC in addition to Assault and it doesn't feel any different. I do like the effects it has on my sleep later that night though

[kevin7352]

I stopped using pre workouts last year and I notice no difference in training aside from stupid tingling sensation in my neck

Same. I stopped after a tub of Assault. It took a while to get use to, but training eventually goes back to normal

[hal0g0dv2]

I'll report in when I finally try it :)

Been using Alpha GPC in addition to Assault and it doesn't feel any different. I do like the effects it has on my sleep later that night though

From the alpha gpc??

[SkinnyPupp]

Yeah dude it gives you crazy dreams, and easy to remember

[originalhypa]

AlphaBRAIN (http://www.onnit.com/alphabrain/)

:okay:

I'll let you know how it goes

Hi Pupp.
What were your thoughts on the Alpha Brain?
After having some experience with the nootropics, will you be continuing to take them? Are you willing to recommend them to friends?

Thanks man.
:woot2:



I guess what I'm looking for is that extra edge while playing sports. I'm 35, and playing hockey against dudes who are 10-15 years younger, and while I can compete with them, it would be nice to have that extra little bit. Working out, running, eating right, and fish oil/multivitamin/B12 have been keeping me going. But I need more to compete hard in the last 10 minutes where it seems that I am falling flat.

[SkinnyPupp]

Hi Pupp.
What were your thoughts on the Alpha Brain?
After having some experience with the nootropics, will you be continuing to take them? Are you willing to recommend them to friends?

Thanks man.
:woot2:



I guess what I'm looking for is that extra edge while playing sports. I'm 35, and playing hockey against dudes who are 10-15 years younger, and while I can compete with them, it would be nice to have that extra little bit. Working out, running, eating right, and fish oil/multivitamin/B12 have been keeping me going. But I need more to compete hard in the last 10 minutes where it seems that I am falling flat.
For me the side effects of the high dose of Huperzine A were too strong, and I had to stop taking it. I got a refund on my bottle... Basically it's a choline overload which causes dizziness and nausea for a couple days. I didn't know at the time, but I could have taken an anticholinergenic to counter this effect (some antihistamines have this effect).

If you are interested in nootropics for working out, try the stack I mentioned before in the pre-workout supplement thread:

750 mg oxiracetam
900 mg Alpha GPC
200-300 mg caffeine (depending on tolerance)
100-200 mcg Huperzine A (depending on tolerance)

That will keep you going for your whole game :) I am waiting on my order to try this myself, but I have heard good things about this stack.

2 of those are ingredients of Alpha Brain. Oxiracetam would be in there if they could, but it would limit their market due to regulation.

Take it with a meal, as oxiracetam is fat soluble.

Otherwise, Alpha Brain might be good for you. It actually has some quality ingredients, but also a lot of unnecessary filler (plus it's expensive).

You can buy oxiracetam at places like smartpowders.com

[originalhypa]

(some antihistamines have this effect).


Awesome info man. But this really jumped out at me. I'm sensitive to "pills" including antihistamines, acetaminophen, codeine, and even Ibuprofen have a negative effect on me in the form of shakes, cold sweats, and a negative mental state.

Thus my concern about adding supplements outside of the basic vitamins, and fish oils.

You have given me much food for thought. Time to google!

[SkinnyPupp]

I just brought that up because my wife had a cold, and I was looking into all the drugs they gave her. One was an antihistamine, but also classified as an anticholinergenic. I looked at the effects of this type of drugs, and the side effects I was having, and was almost certain it would have helped. As for side effects from things like codeine, expect it to be totally different from the supplements I mentioned. But give it a try with a low dose first just in case you don't like the effects. It will put you 'in the zone' and if you aren't ready or comfortable with it, it might not be very fun

[gdoh]

hey skinny did you ever try out the raspberry ketones?? if you did, what do you think of them??

[SkinnyPupp]

Haven't tried it

Just bought some Syntrax Nectar whey, peach flavour.. holy SHIT that is some good tasting whey :sweetjesus:

[hal0g0dv2]

peach whey yumyyyyyyyy

[SkinnyPupp]

Just did my first order at smartpowders. I usually use bb.com (actually ONLY until now) but sp.com has some things bb doesn't, and they offer a 10% discount as well.

Oxiracetam (to add to PWO)
Xtend - Orange Dream (intra workout drink, good for fasted training imo)
Nectar - Fruit Protein Isolate (best tasting protein EVAR, using it post workout)
L-Leucine powder - Add to post workout protein to make it 1337
Focus XT- Blue Raspberry - most legit PWO I've seen.
Phenibut - to make sure I get good sleep on nights before workouts

Total was about $100, shipping was $50 :heckno:

[SkinnyPupp]

Peach nectar after a fasted workout = :sweetjesus:

[AAnthony]

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[SkinnyPupp]

actually rogan has specified many times that it's nothing like limitless.

There obviously aren't any drugs like that, but as far as nootropics go, ab is a good formulation, just overpriced due to having slightly too many ingredients.

IMO a good stack is choline, a racetam, and occasionally some huperzine.

[AAnthony]

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[SkinnyPupp]

Do NOT take it within 4 hours of bed. Maybe 6,depending on tolerance. Huperzine fucks you up yo

[Excelsis]

i think piracetam has been a let down for me

really what matters is how hard you push yourself with just your own thoughts, don't expect to pop a pill and your activity will all of a sudden be enhanced

[RacingMetro92]

Just a question with whey protein; are you supposed to cycle on/off with them over periods of time?

[Excelsis]

if it has caffeine probably should cycle off otherwise not really

[RacingMetro92]

if it has caffeine probably should cycle off otherwise not really

Also starting with Musclepharm Shred (got a 120 pack for only 20 bucks off a canadian website) so should I cycle that? If so, is it 1 month on, one month off?

[hal0g0dv2]

Also starting with Musclepharm Shred (got a 120 pack for only 20 bucks off a canadian website) so should I cycle that? If so, is it 1 month on, one month off?

protein no
m/pharm shred yes

[SkinnyPupp]

i think piracetam has been a let down for me

really what matters is how hard you push yourself with just your own thoughts, don't expect to pop a pill and your activity will all of a sudden be enhanced
Different racetams have different effects, at different dosages. If you are looking for something to turn you 'on' then oxyracetam is the way to go. If you want something more 'mellow' then aniracetam is a better bet. Piracetam is the original, and more of an 'overall' supplement - you must take a relatively high dosage for a very long time to get a benefit from it.

[Excelsis]

ye took it for like 3-4 weeks 5g around 3x a day but nothing really happened

if i experiment with others i don't want to pay a lot,

piracetam price is 85 bucks used to be like 50

[SkinnyPupp]

That's why I chose oxy, it only lasts 2-3 hours, and is the 'wired' one so I think it will work great as a pwo

[Jer3]

still think piracetam is good stuff. got me through countless studying and finals as well as some hard lifting sessions.

[SkinnyPupp]

So for the peoples who started taking beta alanine, how are you liking it?

I started taking it again since I am on a program that only gives around 1 minute of rest between sets

[Ch28]

So for the peoples who started taking beta alanine, how are you liking it?

I started taking it again since I am on a program that only gives around 1 minute of rest between sets

I took it before and got crazy tingles in my fingers. It actually felt kinda good when you're working out :ahwow:

I stopped taking it though cause sometimes I'd feel like throwing up after taking it so I couldn't push too hard or I'd puke :(

[SkinnyPupp]

I took it before and got crazy tingles in my fingers. It actually felt kinda good when you're working out :ahwow:

I stopped taking it though cause sometimes I'd feel like throwing up after taking it so I couldn't push too hard or I'd puke :(

Yeah I used to get that after a big dose, so taper up. Instead of 2 doses of 4g, do 4 doses of 2g

[Verdasco]

never bought protein online before at bb.com (or anywhere else online) but anyone here want to insight me with some suggestions??

edit: i heard it's cheaper but i do not know if that is the case

[beanzzz]

bb.com is usually my go to place for all my supplements since its alot cheaper then buying locally, if I can't find something on bb.com I'll usually check fitnessone.com since pricing is similar. Nutraplanet.com usually has pretty good sales, especially on Black Friday.

Whenever I place an order I'll usually buy enough to last me a month or two, and have it shipped to Point Roberts since S&H is alot cheaper and faster. If your just looking to place a small order you might as well just buy locally and save yourself the hassle of driving across the border, waiting in line and maybe even end up having to pay taxes and duties.

If you want to check the difference in pricing check some of the Canadian supplement stores like Supplements Canada (Popeye's Supplements), SVN Canada (Fuel Supplements, Vitamins, Nutrition). Some of these stores will offer a discount but it usually isn't much more then the HST.

*If you do plan on buying from bb.com don't forget to use one of their 10% off coupons.

[thegentleman]

Just picked up my order from bb.com earlier today in Blaine. Saved about 40 bucks and used that towards gas. Definitely worth it if you're close to the border. But like beanzzz said, if you're going to order, order a couple of months worth of supplements.

I ended up in the longest line up heading into the US though, border officer made thorough checks to those of ethnic background. I was watching the vehicles in front of me being checked/passed through and it seemed every Caucasian was able to get through in 15 seconds.