[SkinnyPupp]

I order 99% of my supps from bb.com but there are some things I want that they don't carry, so I tried smartpowders this time. They offer 10% discounts too, and their prices are roughly the same. No free gift though, so I guess 10 bb.com t-shirts will be enough :fuckthatshit:

It took 3 days for them to get my order out though, so there's that.

[ShadowBun]

where you guys usually ship it to in Pt Roberts?

[thegentleman]

where you guys usually ship it to in Pt Roberts?

Tsb Shipping Plus (http://www.tsbshipping.com/)

[RacingMetro92]

If you had to buy local (lower mainland) where do you usually go? I decided to check out Reflex and the rep there cut me a deal on some stuff there, where as at Popeyes, the guy there was incompetent and used lines out of a book and didn't really try to budge on the price.

I ask this because I can't really get a Pt. Bob box

[TouringTeg]

bb.com ordrers shipped via economy come by Canada Post = cheap and no duty. I was happy. (I don't have the Pt Roberts option because I live in Victoria)

[gdoh]

i ordered on april 27 and april 30 and got my first order yesterday and second one today(delivered to my house). I am very suprised with the speedy service from bb.com

[thegentleman]

If you had to buy local (lower mainland) where do you usually go? I decided to check out Reflex and the rep there cut me a deal on some stuff there, where as at Popeyes, the guy there was incompetent and used lines out of a book and didn't really try to budge on the price.

I ask this because I can't really get a Pt. Bob box

https://www.svncanada.com/store_locations.php

If you're from Surrey, check out the one on King George and 76th inside "Platinum Fitness Gym" they usually know their shit and also give you free stuff (protein bar/shake bottle) with your order.

[RacePace]

If you had to buy local (lower mainland) where do you usually go? I decided to check out Reflex and the rep there cut me a deal on some stuff there, where as at Popeyes, the guy there was incompetent and used lines out of a book and didn't really try to budge on the price.

I ask this because I can't really get a Pt. Bob box

The Reflex in Richmond is willing to change price too (not sure where you went). The Popeye's in Richmond is also good, though I've never asked him or had them offer a discount

[SkinnyPupp]

omg Syntrax Nectar CHERRY :sweetjesus:

[Supafly]

stacking a PWO with a intra workout; good idea??...lol

I dont feel like killing myself early...lol

Currently using Bull Dose for PWO....and was thinking of using Gaspari Size-On for intra...

[hal0g0dv2]

Yeah do it
Drink the waste of money size on during and take pre workout before gym

[Supafly]

Yeah do it
Drink the waste of money size on during and take pre workout before gym

haha point taken. :ahwow:

[instantneedles]

Anyone know of a post workout protein powder that is lactose free? Cus im lactose intolerant and im reacting pretty strongly to the protein powder that i got... I heard syntha-6 is pretty good... Any help is appreciated and will get a thanks

[hal0g0dv2]

Bodybuilding.com - Low Lactose Protein Listing. Find The Best Low Or No Lactose Powders! (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/lactose.htm)

[SkinnyPupp]

Focus XT and Oxiracetam arrived. Finally I have a preworkout stack I don't feel silly for taking. Will be trying it out today

[instantneedles]

Does anyone know if syntha 6 has milk/lactose in it?

[Phozy]

Did a quick google, 5/6 of the protein in syntha 6 are derived from milk, so I guess there is a certain level of lactose in it.

If you want, I can give you a quick sample of it, I haven't opened it myself :P

[Jordanl250]

dymatize elite whey is good, no lactose and has a digestive enzyme = no mad protein farts

[instantneedles]

^how do you know there's no lactose in it?

[tubbyboi]

sitting here on bb.com and deciding which preworkout to get. I've tried craze and mp, both in which i liked. Any other suggestions?

[PK6o4*]

neurocore

[SkinnyPupp]

Neurocore is vastly underdosed. I am liking this focus xt stuff, no ED this time. I am going to up the dose of oxiracetam next time.

Most pwos are goofy, I'll help you guys figure out the best stack. So far I have narrowed down the stuff that does help

Caffeine
Choline
Oxiracetam (will also try aniracetam)
Probably 1,3 but I never tried it myself.

What doesn't work? Check your label, and if it's not listed above, probably that ;) seriously though, for the most part that's true. You get more from creatine and beta alanine than anything a pwo has to offer. Aside from that, the next option is steroids.

[instantneedles]

Anyone try out cytosport muscle milk protein? It's probably the best tasting post-workout shake I've ever had... Has all the essential vitamins in it too.. Check out the ingredients, its the full package..

[SkinnyPupp]

Yes it's fucking delicious. I switched to monster milk, it has better macros for me. Tastes almost the same

[SkinnyPupp]

So I took the time to break down a popular PWO, Assault. Here's what I came up with:

In case you are windering what the colour codes mean:

green = specified on the label
orange = educated guess, should be pretty close. Estimates based on leftover amounts in each blend, etc
red = shot in the dark guess at dosage. Estimates based on usual effective dosage in other supplements
black = who fucken knows


MP Assault

I will be talking about per SCOOP (manufacturers have been using a trick where they list a "serving" on the label that is lower than what you would actually use. This way, they can say it has "32 SERVINGS" in big bold letters for $33, but really it is 16 servings at $2 each. Another perfect example is NeuroCore, which lists a serving as 1/3rd an actual serving you would use, so your "45 serving" container is actually 15 servings, also $2 a serving (fancy that)

We'll go through each hilariously named component of the 46g prop blend. Since it's a proprietary blend, there is no need to state how much of each ingredient is used. But they do list some, so maybe we can deduce how much of the others there are.

:derp: Other Ingredients

First we can get the "other ingredients" out of the way, since they are clearly labeled. We know there are 18g of carbs in here, so that takes care of the "glucose polymers" aka sugar. The next step down that we are aware of is 500mg of calcium silicate and phosphate, and about 200mg of sodium and potassium. With flavouring somewhere between there, let's round it off to 300mg of flavoring.

That leaves 27 grams out of the 46g scoop that is "active ingredients".

Remember, each whackily named component must be listed in order from greatest to least:

:derp: Anti-Fatigue Adaption Matrix

CarnoSyn® Beta-Alanine - 4g, as claimed on the label
Citrulline Malate - 1.5g, according to the label
(DMG) Dimethylglycine - It doesn't take much of this, formerly known as vitamin B16, to take effect. So probably around 250mg if it is fully dosed, less if under-dosed.
Rhodiola Rosea (Root) Extract 3% Rosavins - Not a cheap herb, but an awesome one. I want to assume this is underdosed, but let's be kind and say they included a full 400mg dose

This is the top one, and we know that the one below is 6g total. By my estimates, this one is just over 6g itself (could be off if I overestimated their RR dosage). So that leaves around 21 g for the rest

:derp: Strength Domination & Recovery Matrix

Creapure(Creatine Monohydrate)
Con-Cret® Creatine HCL (100% Concentrated Creatine)

This is 5g total. I'm not sure why it is listed ABOVE the BCAA listing which is 6g. It is possible that it is some concentrated form that 'provides 5g creatine' but is actually more? Now we know that all the components below are 6g also (and we're down to 16g)

:derp: High Performance Energy & Intensity Amplifier

Let's use 6g approx. for now, since the ingredient below is known to be 6g.

Choline Bitartrate - The bulk of this component. Adding up most of the estimates below, and taking into account that taking above 3g of choline bitartrate would leave a very noticeable odor in the powder, and on your breath after drinking, that means around 2g of choline bitartrate.
Taurine - Probably 1g, similar to Red Bull and other PWO's that use this
L-Tyrosine - Most likely around 500mg
Medium Chain Triglycerides (MCT) - As far as I can tell, this is the only fat source in Assault. 18 calories coming from carbs and no protein yet, we can deduce that there are around 450mg of MCT (aka coconut oil)
Caffeine Anhydrous - 300mg according to a MP rep (source (http://anabolicminds.com/forum/muscle-pharm/180409-how-much-caffeine.html)). That leaves us with 750mg or so for the rest of the ingredients. Everything below here will almost certainly be under 100-200mg:
Papain 1000
Pyroglutamic Acid
L-Aspartic Acid
Camiella Sinensis (White Tea Leaf Powder)
Pyridoxine HCL (the label states 28mg per scoop)
Methylcobalamin (label states 1.7mg per scoop)

We're down to 10g now.

:derp: 3:1:2 BCAA Ratio (Patent Pending)

BCAAs (L-Leucine, L-Valine, L-Isoleucine) - Label claims 6g per scoop

That leaves 4g for the rest:

:derp: Cell Volumizer

L-Glycine
L-Arginine Blend

Here is the "pump" blend. With only 4g left for the entire blend, there is almost certainly not enough of either to get any NO production (Arginine itself can sometimes increase NO in people who are deficient, but in healthy people, nothing)

:derp: Cellular Transport Amplifier

Astragin®
Cinnulin PF®

Muscle Hydration & Electrolyte Blend

L-Glutamine
Phosphorus
Sodium - 90mg according to the label
Potassium - 80mg according to the label


So what does that say about Assault?

1) You are geting a lot of caffeine. 300mg of caffeine per scoop - hey you just drank 3 Red Bulls! If you were wondering why you feel 'wired' after this, it's the high caffeine content, along with a good amount of L-Tyrosine and Taurine.

2) You do get some choline which is good, and will be what causes all of the 'focused' feeling you would get from it.

3) You can skip your creatine dose for the day

4) And you only need to take half a beta alanine dose that day

5) And that's it. This is basically three diet Red Bulls with some choline, creatine, and beta alanine. Actually it's not TOO bad for $2 a scoop, since that's about what a can of Red Bull costs anyway. Everything else listed here is either dosed way too low to be useful in a PWO, or just useless completely.

Hope this helps people out a bit! It was fun to research

[gdoh]

i switched over to glycergrow when i workout late, it doesnt keep me up all night

[TouringTeg]

Great write up on Assault Skinny. Makes sense because I am sensitve to caffeine. I have been using it for a few weeks and find it difficult to sleep even after taking it at 4pm.

With a 1/2 serving, I have less trouble sleeping and I don't get the caffeine withdrawl headaches I do with the full serving. Still very good focus and the energy to push harder with less rest between sets. (Supersets are no problem)

[instantneedles]

Skinny, review on razor 8 as well?

[SkinnyPupp]

Skinny, review on razor 8 as well?
Sure

http://www.allmaxnutrition.com/wp-content/themes/allmax/images/products/sfp/razor8_us_panel.png

EFFECTIVE INGREDIENTS AS A PRE-WORKOUT SUPPLEMENT ARE IN BOLD

CNS Stimulation / FFA Release / Beta Agonist

Caffeine - 364 mg
Geranium - 52 mg (herbal form of 1,3D but there is no evidence that the plant oil actually contains any, so this is sketchy. Label booster)
1,3 trimethylxanthine - 46 mg (this is just another word for "caffeine", they probably put it there to confuse you into thinking this is like 1,3D, so it's a label booster)
Hordenine - 44 mg (a rather strong stimulant, but quite a short half life)
Yohimbine HCl - 10mg (Another good stim, possibly underdosed if you are big. This has a high chance of making you feel anxious, especially with high doses of caffeine)

ATP Enhancer / Myofibril Acidification Buffer (wat?)

Creatine Mono - 5g (well I guess you don't have to dose it that day)
Beta Alanine - 326 mg (that's about 1/24th of one daily dose so this is there as a label booster)
Creatinol O Phosphate - 100 mg (completely unnecessary when there is already monohydrate. Another label booster)

Endothellial Expansion / Hemodynamic Volumizer (LOL these are getting worse with each one)

Arginine - 3.688 g (This is the 'pump' ingredient if you haven't figured that out from the silly name. But once it gets through the liver, very little makes it to the actual muscle. So it's not going to be useful as a pump ingredient, especially at this dose, unless you are deficient in arginine. If you were wondering why so many "PUMP" supplements can be called "DUMP" supplements, it's because arginine uptake in the gut is very poor, and therefore basically acts as a laxative)

Polymethoxylated FFA Release Extension / Hyperlytic Acceleration (They are really pushing it now, LOL)

Yerba Meta Green Tea - 20 mg (healthy in high, regular doses, but this ain't no high dose. Label booster)
Naringin (grapefruit) - 10 mg (increases absorption of caffeine)

Conclusions

400 mg of caffeine, and not much else. The inclusion of Hordenine and Yohimbine are what makes it feel stronger than caffeine, and the grapefruit helps absorption. You could easily replicate this with Caffeine HCl tabs (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/all/caf.html), Yohimbine HCl (https://www.smartpowders.com/p-5362-yohimbine-powder-10-grams.aspx), and pure Hordenine (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/live/hordenine.html). Continue to take Creatine on your own, and you will be paying $0.19 per dose instead of (I assume $2 or more).

BTW every PWO review will basically be the same. Lots of caffeine with a bunch of stuff that is either useless, or such a low dose that it is effectively useless. That is because anything that can be sold under the watchful eye of the FDA can't put in the effective ingredients like 1,3D or Oxiracetam/Aniracetam.

Until more 'nootropic' ingredients get attention from the BB scene, we won't see many effective PWOs that include neural boosting ingredients like ALCAR, Huperzine, Vincopetine, etc. Like I said before, the only one I have seen do this is Focus XT (White Flood and Neurocore both make an attempt but are so underdosed that they fail). I would bet that if Biotest ever gets into the PWO scene, they will do it this way, but it will be hilariously expensive. Because their staff actually knows how effective the neural connection is to building muscle. Others are there just to sell shit. Biotest is there to sell shit and train/educate.

As a side note, I really wish Alpha Brain didn't make me sick, because I think that would be a fucken awesome PWO.

[fetched]

I've had really bad experiences with PWO (Headaches, blurred vision, crash) with jack3d and 1MR, but I tried a sample of Assault today and surprisingly I didn't get any of the previous symptoms..... Any ideas as to why?

It was one of the best workouts I've had in awhile

[SkinnyPupp]

I've had really bad experiences with PWO (Headaches, blurred vision, crash) with jack3d and 1MR, but I tried a sample of Assault today and surprisingly I didn't get any of the previous symptoms..... Any ideas as to why?

It was one of the best workouts I've had in awhile
Because the first two had 1,3D and assault didn't

[hal0g0dv2]

1,3d is hard stuff for your first rodeo

[AAnthony]

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[Jer3]

never read the label closely enough to realize assault had choline in it. well looks like maybe ill save the extra scoop i usually throw in there to go with the piracetam.

[SkinnyPupp]

Shroom tech is mostly cordyceps, go ahead and look that up. The high grade stuff is SUPER expensive since it is hand picked in the mountains of Tibet. That makes me wary of how much is in Shroom tech. The stuff normally sells for thousands of dollars in HK and China.

It got a lot of attention when the china Olympic team claimed to be using it on their athletes. Of course they failed steroid tests too so...

[Jordanl250]

craze has Phenethylamine in it. Mild psychoactive drug lol

[Santofu]

Can anybody recommend good brands that are suitable for skinny ass motherfucker like me? :pokerface:
i'm trying to bulk up but the thing is I don't like drinking vanilla protein shakes... I think they are horrible imo.
It would be a big bonus if it is lactose-free, if not, leave that out.

[SkinnyPupp]

Can anybody recommend good brands that are suitable for skinny ass motherfucker like me? :pokerface:
i'm trying to bulk up but the thing is I don't like drinking vanilla protein shakes... I think they are horrible imo.
It would be a big bonus if it is lactose-free, if not, leave that out.

EAT MOAR

[TypeRNammer]

EAT MOAR

This

[strykn]

really wanna try neurocore.. fuck bb.com went jewish FUUUUU

[instantneedles]

Can anybody recommend good brands that are suitable for skinny ass motherfucker like me? :pokerface:
i'm trying to bulk up but the thing is I don't like drinking vanilla protein shakes... I think they are horrible imo.
It would be a big bonus if it is lactose-free, if not, leave that out.

Bro, you should really try out muscle milk by cytosport, the taste is great, and the good thing about it too is its lactose free, good for people like you and I. It's not like the taste you get from regular vanilla protein shakes... PM me if you're interested.. I know a place that's selling them for a discounted price right now..

[SkinnyPupp]

really wanna try neurocore.. fuck bb.com went jewish FUUUUU
There's nothing special about it. 360mg of caffeine, and some Theanine. The herbs (Rhodiola and Yohimbe) are non standardized, so there's no way to tell how much active ingredient you are getting. The rest of the ingredients are underdosed, even at the full 3 scoop dose.

[Tuxedo14]

Hi I know a good one I've been trying the vi shape by Visalus it's lactose free
Has a tri sorb blend so the protein stays in your body a lot longer
Let me know if u r interested

[SkinnyPupp]

Hi I know a good one I've been trying the vi shape by Visalus it's lactose free
Has a tri sorb blend so the protein stays in your body a lot longer
Let me know if u r interested
Fuck off with your pyramid scheme bullshit (for those that don't know, Visalus is a multi level marketing scam company)

[Tuxedo14]

Sorry thought I just mention I'm just trying it i just went to Richmond gym where they had samples and tried it out not trying to sell it but thought being lactose free may help cuz that's what the trainer said

Anyways I'll stop mentioning this sorry

[SkinnyPupp]

No, they were trying to get you in on a pyramid scheme. You unwittingly fell for it.. So yeah keep that crap out of here :)

[TypeRNammer]

really wanna try neurocore.. fuck bb.com went jewish FUUUUU

I think it's a waste of money...even at buy one get one free.

Tastes like crap too, specifically the grape flavor...

[JSilver]

There's nothing special about it. 360mg of caffeine, and some Theanine. The herbs (Rhodiola and Yohimbe) are non standardized, so there's no way to tell how much active ingredient you are getting. The rest of the ingredients are underdosed, even at the full 3 scoop dose.

So what's your suggestion on a preworkout that is not underdosed.


I think it's a waste of money...even at buy one get one free.

Its a dollar serving at buy one get one free ( On single, Neurocore 3 scoops = $1.99). Cheaper than Assault (If at 1 full scoop = $2.18).

[hal0g0dv2]

sorry

[hal0g0dv2]

neuro core is pretty good, actually really good

[SkinnyPupp]

So what's your suggestion on a preworkout that is not underdosed.

Depends on what ingredients you're looking for. If caffeine and choline (2 of the most effective pwo ingredients) are all you want, then something like Assault is fine. Just know that you are paying an extra $1.50 or so per serving for lots of other stuff you don't need.

IMO the most effective PWO ingredients are the ones that stimulate your mind and increase focus. Specifically the 'mind/muscle connection'. IE you want every single rep to be effective and in good form, even when fatigued. Those are:

Caffeine (many effects, mostly as brain stimulant)
Tyrosine (synergistic with caffeine, precursor to dopamine and adrenaline)
Choline (preferably GPC or CDP form) (precursor to acetylcholine, increases focus and 'mind/muscle connection')
ALCAR (Acetyl L-Carnitine) (fuel for the cells at a mitochondrial level - increases work output, synergistic with choline, increases focus and mind/muscle connection)
Racetams (Oxiracetam or Aniracetam, Piracetam is the oldest but weakest) (basically gives choline a huge 'turbo boost'. Really, your brain is in 'turbo mode' and everything works 'better'. Incredibly synergistic with choline and all cholinergenics)
Others: Huperzine-A, Vinpocetine, Rhodiola, Yohimbine, Ephedrine (depending on goals)

IMO a good preworkout stack would be

Caffeine 200-300mg
Tyrosine 500-1000mg
Alpha GPC 600-900mg
ALCAR 750-1000mg
Oxiracetam 750mg (will try aniracetam today)

NO preworkout is going to give you this much of each dosage, so really the only way is to do it yourself. Additionally, take 5g creatine and 8g beta alanine daily.

[rageguy]

Depends on what ingredients you're looking for. If caffeine and choline (2 of the most effective pwo ingredients) are all you want, then something like Assault is fine. Just know that you are paying an extra $1.50 or so per serving for lots of other stuff you don't need.

Additionally, take 5g creatine and 8g beta alanine daily.

I'm just going through MP Assault's list and notice they have 5g Creatine and 4g BA. Would you think that this will be enough for the day if I go Assault + additional BA?

[SkinnyPupp]

I'm just going through MP Assault's list and notice they have 5g Creatine and 4g BA. Would you think that this will be enough for the day if I go Assault + additional BA?
Yes you can skip your creatine dose that day, and one of your two 4g BA doses, IF you are taking a full scoop.

[Stealthy]

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/542276_10151106321679638_510574637_13224532_721915 612_n.jpg

[JSilver]

Depends on what ingredients you're looking for. If caffeine and choline (2 of the most effective pwo ingredients) are all you want, then something like Assault is fine. Just know that you are paying an extra $1.50 or so per serving for lots of other stuff you don't need.

IMO the most effective PWO ingredients are the ones that stimulate your mind and increase focus. Specifically the 'mind/muscle connection'. IE you want every single rep to be effective and in good form, even when fatigued. Those are:

Caffeine (many effects, mostly as brain stimulant)
Tyrosine (synergistic with caffeine, precursor to dopamine and adrenaline)
Choline (preferably GPC or CDP form) (precursor to acetylcholine, increases focus and 'mind/muscle connection')
ALCAR (Acetyl L-Carnitine) (fuel for the cells at a mitochondrial level - increases work output, synergistic with choline, increases focus and mind/muscle connection)
Racetams (Oxiracetam or Aniracetam, Piracetam is the oldest but weakest) (basically gives choline a huge 'turbo boost'. Really, your brain is in 'turbo mode' and everything works 'better'. Incredibly synergistic with choline and all cholinergenics)
Others: Huperzine-A, Vinpocetine, Rhodiola, Yohimbine, Ephedrine (depending on goals)

IMO a good preworkout stack would be

Caffeine 200-300mg
Tyrosine 500-1000mg
Alpha GPC 600-900mg
ALCAR 750-1000mg
Oxiracetam 750mg (will try aniracetam today)

NO preworkout is going to give you this much of each dosage, so really the only way is to do it yourself. Additionally, take 5g creatine and 8g beta alanine daily.

Leave it to Skinny to break it down for ya. Thanks bro! Lol.

[SkinnyPupp]

The more I think of it, the more I wonder if I could make money with a PWO product... Hell if they can sell a $2 per dose supplement with $0.08 worth (retail) of ingredients, there's clearly some money to be made....

Maybe I should talk to potential investors.. build a single purpose retail site for it, nice graphics and everything

And of course you guys will be my willing lab rats :ilied:

:considered:

[hal0g0dv2]

just make it anything like bio test and i am in
call it anacobra

[SkinnyPupp]

Like Biotest in what way? Horrendously overpriced? ;)

[Excelsis]

RS PWO?

craze is fucked the more anxious you feel beforehand the more focused you are in the gym

:fulloffuck:

[SkinnyPupp]

BTW if you find that you are not very sensitive to caffeine, try taking it with milk thistle

[Excelsis]

skinny how would you compare aniracetam and oxyracetam?

and are you planning to try pramiracetam in the future too?

[kevin7352]

is ON's amiN.O considered a pre workout? it does have 160mg of caffeine in it. but it also says you can use it in the morning, pre workout, post workout :fulloffuck:

[SkinnyPupp]

skinny how would you compare aniracetam and oxyracetam?

and are you planning to try pramiracetam in the future too?
I like Ani better as an every day supplement. Will have to try it PWO a couple more times to compare directly as a PWO. I find Oxi to be stimulatory, while Ani is somewhat calming (but still increases focus).

[SkinnyPupp]

is ON's amiN.O considered a pre workout? it does have 160mg of caffeine in it. but it also says you can use it in the morning, pre workout, post workout :fulloffuck:
Anything with caffeine can be a PWO. ON Amino Energy is basically just an energy drink. Think Red Bull, but with aminos instead of sugar

[nns]

How many tsps do you guys take of fish oil? I take 1, as the bottle says (Nutrasea). I'm wondering if taking 2 would be better.

I remember when I first started taking it last April. I noticed when I woke up in the morning, I felt a lot more rested. I also felt my mood was generally a lot better. I went for vacation for 1 week and didn't take any fish oil. Coming back, I started taking it again, but I haven't experienced any of the positive effects ever since. I've always gotten about 8 hrs of sleep, if that matters.

[SkinnyPupp]

:fuckthatshit: 1 tablespoon at night, 4 caps of Super EPA in the day

[nns]

Why do you take it at night?

[SkinnyPupp]

Because it would be too much to take it all at once, so I split the dosage into 2. One with "lunch" one with dinner

[Alphamale]

Anyone take any fiber supps? Looking to up my intake of fiber for more/better frequent movements. Are these supps worth it or is there a better, cheaper, faster way to clear the pipes?

[kevin7352]

ground flax seeds. dirt cheap and so easy to consume. put a table spoon in your water and just down it once a day

[Excelsis]

Fiber Supplement, Psyllium Fiber Supplement | Konsyl Natural Fiber Supplement (http://www.konsyl.com/)

[Benefit6o4]

Thoughts on 100% Gold Compared to GNC Pro Performance® AMP Amplified Wheybolic Extreme 60™

[Recon604]

Thoughts on 100% Gold Compared to GNC Pro Performance® AMP Amplified Wheybolic Extreme 60™

cant really tell if ur trolling... GNC products are POS but then all whey protein is all the same

[Stealthy]

Thoughts on 100% Gold Compared to GNC Pro Performance® AMP Amplified Wheybolic Extreme 60™

Both are overpriced for what you pay :fuckthatshit:

[Excelsis]

costco kaizen protein.. cheapest and best way to go

[TMT]

http://oi45.tinypic.com/akwje9.jpg

May 25th and 26th @ Popeyes

Enjoy

[Jer3]

Anyone take any fiber supps? Looking to up my intake of fiber for more/better frequent movements. Are these supps worth it or is there a better, cheaper, faster way to clear the pipes?

i use to use fibersure by metamucil. worked pretty well in keeping my dumps regular.

[gabi]

Anyone take any fiber supps? Looking to up my intake of fiber for more/better frequent movements. Are these supps worth it or is there a better, cheaper, faster way to clear the pipes?

psyllium husk works great... can get it anywhere

i buy the kirkland signature from down in the states

also chia works good too... i add a couple spoonfulls of chia to a protein shake right before bed

[A$AProcky]

Just picked up some "MRM All Natural Whey Protein" I've used over 15 different powders but this one is my favorite. It is GMO & sugar free and the cattle used have never been given hormones or antibiotics and it has a high biological value plus its priced fairly compared to other "organic" protein powders & is actually cheaper than some of those crap protein powders people use like ON its around $22 for 38 servings I bought 6 containers to save some money.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mrm/pumped.html

[Alphamale]

i use to use fibersure by metamucil. worked pretty well in keeping my dumps regular.

Thanks for the replies.

There's something in metamucil that I'm allergic to. I get super bloaty and I turn red and itchy.

[PK6o4*]

great deal on myofusion 6 lbs may 21 - 27

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/555395_417679304920975_216865838335657_1392453_442 546918_n.jpg

bb.com is $53 for 5 lbs plus shipping

[hal0g0dv2]

That mutant whey is pretty cheap
Might have to grab some

[PK6o4*]

oops

[Jordanl250]

I got a 10lb bag of mutant whey for 80 bucks its pretty good. hella cheap

[LC21]

I got a 10lb bag of mutant whey for 80 bucks its pretty good. hella cheap
This shit is pretty tasty especially for the price.

Anyone here taking Allmax AllWhey? I just ordered some from svncanada, hope its good

[kevin7352]

i got a 1kg tub of GNC creatine mono
i've used about 10 teaspoons
if anyone wants it just let me know

http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2133642

http://gnc.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pGNC1-2331604dt.jpg

[LC21]

Wow SVNCANADA shipment got here within 2 days. So fast. AllWhey tastes pretty good

[Excelsis]

anyone ever try DAA before? any use?

[hal0g0dv2]

anyone ever try DAA before? any use?

just read about it
tons of mixed reviews, mainly its good for older people

[Stealthy]

Mutant mass 15 lbs for 60 at popeyes...

Any tried it? Is it good/dissolvable?

[hal0g0dv2]

Mutant mass 15 lbs for 60 at popeyes...

Any tried it? Is it good/dissolvable?

rather buy 60 bucks of oats

[Recon604]

Mutant mass 15 lbs for 60 at popeyes...

Any tried it? Is it good/dissolvable?

Its alright. Tastes really sweet cuz of sugar content. It was really hard on my stomach, had so much runs...

Try it before you buy at popeyes.

[Jordanl250]

Mutant mass 15 lbs for 60 at popeyes...

Any tried it? Is it good/dissolvable?

holy shit, must buy more lol you gotta shake it well before it dissolves

[Stealthy]

Blah, think I'm just gonna go to costco and pick up $60 worth of steaks.

Not really a fan of the ingredient profile :suspicious:

http://www.popeyescanada.com/images/InfoPages/PVL/pvl-mutant-mass-info.gif

[SkinnyPupp]

I'd buy a 15 lb bag of dog shit before I'd buy that stuff

[Kilinim]

I'm trying to decide which greens supp is better: Progressive vege greens or Controlled Labs orange oximega greens. Any thoughts?

[SkinnyPupp]

Post the ingredients

[Kilinim]

Controlled Labs: Controlled Labs Orange OxiMega Greens at Bodybuilding.com: Lowest Prices for Orange OxiMega Greens (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/orange-oximega-greens.html)

Progressive:Progressive Vege Greens - 255g (English (Canada)) (http://www.vitashop.ca/greens/294-vegegreens-255g.html)

[PK6o4*]

yes its fine

[GGnoRE]

hmmm 16 and 1mr?

[PK6o4*]

i took that stuff when i was 15

[Jordanl250]

hmmm 16 and 1mr?

The new stuff doesn't even have 1-3 Dimeth anymore

[BrRsn]

Someone posted a test booster awhile back that was backed up by blood tests, anyone recall the name? Wanna try it out with a new preworkout for the summer

[SkinnyPupp]

D-Aspartic Acid is one that is shown to increase test

The role and molecular mechanism of D... [Reprod Biol Endocrinol. 2009] - PubMed - NCBI (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19860889)

Remember to take an aromatase inhibitor, just like if you were taking actual test. And cycle - 12 days on, 1 week off, repeat if necessary. 3g per day was the effective dose

[hal0g0dv2]

Someone posted a test booster awhile back that was backed up by blood tests, anyone recall the name? Wanna try it out with a new preworkout for the summer

Triazole® | Products (http://getds.com/Products/triazole)

[Excelsis]

i think the old formula for activate xtreme made some kid's test level rise higher than pro bodybuilders

Activate Xtreme (http://getds.com/Products/activate-xtreme)

[Jordanl250]

i think the old formula for activate xtreme made some kid's test level rise higher than pro bodybuilders

Activate Xtreme (http://getds.com/Products/activate-xtreme)

lol srs? is this legit? :suspicious:

[hal0g0dv2]

lol srs? is this legit? :suspicious:

well they do make crze dude and that shit is pretty nutty

[Excelsis]

lol srs? is this legit? :suspicious:

yea i forgot who was the kid but it didn't happen to everyone, some ingredient in old formula made him react differently lol

[SkinnyPupp]

Considering they add strong ingredients that aren't listed on the label, it may actually work but who the fuck knows what's in it :fuckthatshit:

[Supafly]

hey Skinny, can you review the " revolution-nutrition - Bull Dose Extreme" PreWO.

Thanks man.

[SkinnyPupp]

http://www.revolution-nutrition.com/images/img-nutrition-facts-bulldose-extreme.jpg

Not much to go off there.. The only thing we know for sure is that there is 10g of sugar, which is listed at the bottom of the "EXTREME PUMP" section. Which means there must be more than 10g each of the ingredients above it, which of course is impossible with only 14g left. So the label is sketchy as fuck

One thing you can be sure of, 14g of all those ingredients means, there isn't much of anything useful. Probably 300mg of caffeine.

[XplicitLuder]

came upon this article and was wondering if anyone has tried it ?

Shocking Discovery for Joint Relief (http://www.everydaylifestyles.com/articlesc.php?t202id=47606&t202kw=h3)

its called "Instaflex Joint Support" and apparently it hit GNC Canada couple months ago and became #1 joint supplement

[JSilver]

Any thoughts on CLA?

[hal0g0dv2]

Waste of coin

[JSilver]

Noted.

[kevin7352]

Thoughts on green tea extract?

green tea extract + caffeine?

[evo08]

Can you guys recommend a good supplement to reduce body fat.. I am at the last 2-3 pounds and it's getting tough. Diet is solid.

Other then the EC or ECA stack because already taking preworkout stuff loaded with caffiene. I do have ephedrine pills but have not taken them.

[kevin7352]

Green tea extract paired with caffeine supposedly increases metabolism, suppresses apetite, burns calories just like EC but much safer.

Green Tea Extract by NOW: Lowest Prices At Bodybuilding.com (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/gtea.htm)

"A randomized double-blind, controlled parallel multicenter trial consisting of a 2-week run-in period and a 12-week treatment period tested Green Tea Extract's mechanisms of action. Healthy young men who took green tea containing a total of 150 mg caffeine and 270 mg EGCg per day in divided doses burned more calories and fat than those who took only 150 mg caffeine daily.* A placebo containing no caffeine or EGCg did not improve metabolism. Although caffeine does stimulate metabolism, obviously other substances in the Green Tea Extract were responsible for some of that metabolism-boosting effect.*"

[hal0g0dv2]

Can you guys recommend a good supplement to reduce body fat.. I am at the last 2-3 pounds and it's getting tough. Diet is solid.

Other then the EC or ECA stack because already taking preworkout stuff loaded with caffiene. I do have ephedrine pills but have not taken them.

Cardio and Clen ?

[hal0g0dv2]

Can you guys recommend a good supplement to reduce body fat.. I am at the last 2-3 pounds and it's getting tough. Diet is solid.

Other then the EC or ECA stack because already taking preworkout stuff loaded with caffiene. I do have ephedrine pills but have not taken them.

if your diet is fine, there should be no problem

[Stealthy]

I thought it would be interesting to let you guys know about this, redditor tested protein powders for actual protein content submitted by users in closed packets.

Guys! A Redditor just finished lab tests on a bunch of protein powder brands! - Bodybuilding.com Forums (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=145586421)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0Ag9uT-E4EIL7dFZPZnR0WVZybGtFWnRKNzdKNm9XOVE&toomany=true#gid=0

Original reddit topic: Offering broscience service: I'll test your protein powders : Fitness (http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/te1rk/offering_broscience_service_ill_test_your_protein/)

Raging @ Myofusion...

http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/fuck.gif

[beanzzz]

^^^

http://members.shaw.ca/baybeejay/supplements.jpg



Wow, 91%. Only thing I buy is ON! jk. Only take half the amount of supplements now compared to a year ago when I took that picture, now I get most of it from eating like a mofo.

[SkinnyPupp]

As expected, ON makes solid protein, idiot vegan alternatives are shit, and cheap whey is crap whey.

Cheap = bad

But expensive doesn't necessarily mean good.

Too bad I found out about this too late, I would have sent him some Nectar... Love that shit so much, but I really hope it's legit. Considering the price, and the fact that it is also available as a medicinal supplement, I would bet that it is.

[Excelsis]

kaizen :alonehappy:

[Stealthy]

Still disappointed about Myofusion 53%... Guess ill be switching to ON. What are some good flavors?

[hal0g0dv2]

Still disappointed about Myofusion 53%... Guess ill be switching to ON. What are some good flavors?

Every flavor they have is pretty legit

[SkinnyPupp]

I thought it would be interesting to let you guys know about this, redditor tested protein powders for actual protein content submitted by users in closed packets.

Guys! A Redditor just finished lab tests on a bunch of protein powder brands! - Bodybuilding.com Forums (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=145586421)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0Ag9uT-E4EIL7dFZPZnR0WVZybGtFWnRKNzdKNm9XOVE&toomany=true#gid=0

Original reddit topic: Offering broscience service: I'll test your protein powders : Fitness (http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/te1rk/offering_broscience_service_ill_test_your_protein/)

This deserves a bump, it's pretty important. If a protein is cheaper than it should be, like the shit at costco for instance, it is garbage.

And the plot thickens... The worst brand on the tests claimed that these tests are baseless (http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/tcpmt/american_pure_whey_is_american_pure_shit/), and submitted a lab test of their own... but the lab they used is either not real, or owned by themselves, because the website and domains are hosted by the same people :facepalm:

Anything over 70% in this guy's tests is fine, because the protein he used is not always 100% soluble. If the powder didn't dissolve 100%, some of it would have been left out of the test.

[PK6o4*]

Still disappointed about Myofusion 53%... Guess ill be switching to ON. What are some good flavors?

mocha tastes like starbucks

[LC21]

This deserves a bump, it's pretty important. If a protein is cheaper than it should be, like the shit at costco for instance, it is garbage.

And the plot thickens... The worst brand on the tests claimed that these tests are baseless (http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/tcpmt/american_pure_whey_is_american_pure_shit/), and submitted a lab test of their own... but the lab they used is either not real, or owned by themselves, because the website and domains are hosted by the same people :facepalm:

Anything over 70% in this guy's tests is fine, because the protein he used is not always 100% soluble. If the powder didn't dissolve 100%, some of it would have been left out of the test.

Thats pretty sketchy.

No supplement crew. Fuckyeah

[GGnoRE]

American Pure Whey, major WTF

I seriously hope they start to regulate the quality of fitness supps.

[Verdasco]

sorry but i am unable to check the document because i am currently in beijing..... :facepalm: can anyone give an insight if the grid has isoflex and this other protein company that has a picture of an ice cream on the label? :concentrate:

[SkinnyPupp]

They didn't test that one. But only four of them were really bad, and only one of those was an actual brand you'd think would be good. The lesson here isn't "ON is better than Isopure" the lesson is "don't buy cheap crap or store brand stuff you have never heard about before"

[originalhypa]

When my brother get's home tomorrow I'm going to see what recovery drink he gave me last week. It tasted like watermelon, and felt pretty good. I'm usually sore the day after hockey, but that stuff toned it down to the point where I was ready to play again. I'm amazed as to how some of these sports supplements actually work.

I started taking the Activ-X multivitamin recently, along with 2400mg of fish oil daily, and a night time dose of Serapeptase. The first few days of the multi made me jittery, probably because of the high B12 levels. It has Ginseng and cordiceps too. But an odd side effect is that my body now quits on me. I'm putting in so much time working, playing, and/or working out in order to work and play harder, and the body shuts down. Yesterday I was a fatigued mess, and was in bed at 9pm. Today I'm feeling better, but shit, I could have used another hour or two of sleep. I'm finding now that sleep is better for recovery than any pill.

Is it common to feel good enough to really push your body for days on end, then crash hard?

[XplicitLuder]

will report back today on how craze went. picked it up today and pretty stoked to try it :concentrate:

[SkinnyPupp]

When my brother get's home tomorrow I'm going to see what recovery drink he gave me last week. It tasted like watermelon, and felt pretty good. I'm usually sore the day after hockey, but that stuff toned it down to the point where I was ready to play again. I'm amazed as to how some of these sports supplements actually work.

I started taking the Activ-X multivitamin recently, along with 2400mg of fish oil daily, and a night time dose of Serapeptase. The first few days of the multi made me jittery, probably because of the high B12 levels. It has Ginseng and cordiceps too. But an odd side effect is that my body now quits on me. I'm putting in so much time working, playing, and/or working out in order to work and play harder, and the body shuts down. Yesterday I was a fatigued mess, and was in bed at 9pm. Today I'm feeling better, but shit, I could have used another hour or two of sleep. I'm finding now that sleep is better for recovery than any pill.

Is it common to feel good enough to really push your body for days on end, then crash hard?
Totally normal. The harder you push yourself, the more you will burn out. The way to get around it is to eat more.

[XplicitLuder]

took first scoop..oh gawd it taste bleh :heckno: assault tasted a bit sweeter but there was something about it that i could at least stand. This one too but..iuno =/ haha anyways it reminds me a lot like jack3d haha but i guess ill know once i go workout. Just waiting another 10mins before heading out

[Excelsis]

good night sweet prince

[vafanculo]

Can someone pls school me on what supps I should look at?

Main goal is to lose body fat, and build muscle. I'm hearing a lot about test supplements?

Kind of a new world for me.. Hearing a lot about ZMA? What exactly is this and what does it do? Should I even bother if my main goal is to shed the fat away first?

[GGnoRE]

If your new to the Supp world, I suggest you start with the following:

Whey protein, creatine, BCAA and multi-vitamin.

I wouldn't get into the fat burners or the test boosters until you really know what you are spending your money on.

[hal0g0dv2]

Can someone pls school me on what supps I should look at?

Main goal is to lose body fat, and build muscle. I'm hearing a lot about test supplements?

Kind of a new world for me.. Hearing a lot about ZMA? What exactly is this and what does it do? Should I even bother if my main goal is to shed the fat away first?

First things first if u r wanting to lose fat look at diet

[vafanculo]

Thanks guys.. My diet has been in check lately. I'm happy with my weight loss.. But I want thicker back, fuller arms, etc.. I guess you can't really cut weight and bulk up at same time?

Won't creatine make me fatter?

[Recon604]

Thanks guys.. My diet has been in check lately. I'm happy with my weight loss.. But I want thicker back, fuller arms, etc.. I guess you can't really cut weight and bulk up at same time?

Won't creatine make me fatter?

creatine gives u water weight, allows u to lift more. It doesnt make u fatter, cuz it makes u work out harder and pushs u more so u will be losing fat instead.

[XplicitLuder]

anyways..what can i say about craze. i'd give it a 8/10 just for the lack of better taste LOL apart from that, felt more concentrated and defintely had more power to lift more. At the beginning while stretching i got REALLY warm, so i guess it makes you sweat more :ilied: right nowtho im EXHAUSTED...dunno if its the lack of sleep the last 2 days (gf issues been keeping me up) and cus i felt so energized today i pushed even harder. so maybe its a crash effect..or maybe its other things i noticed. Id pretty much compared this to jack3d lol and i loved jack3d<3

[Excelsis]

If your new to the Supp world, I suggest you start with the following:

Whey protein, creatine, BCAA and multi-vitamin.

I wouldn't get into the fat burners or the test boosters until you really know what you are spending your money on.

whey protein isn't needed if you have other protein sources, BCAA's either, and multi's in summer are pointless if you're getting enough vegetables

[Stealthy]

whey protein isn't needed if you have other protein sources, BCAA's either, and multi's in summer are pointless if you're getting enough vegetables

In reality none of those are needed because they're just supplements but imo whey, creatine, multi-vitamins are on the top of the list

[SkinnyPupp]

I don't consider whey a supplement, it's a food.

[RacePace]

Gaspari hits back over with their own testing

Gaspari Nutrition (http://www.gasparinutrition.com/news/viewnews.aspx?id=276)

[hal0g0dv2]

Gaspari hits back over with their own testing

Gaspari Nutrition (http://www.gasparinutrition.com/news/viewnews.aspx?id=276)

Saw that coming

[604dragon]

ive been looking at a few supplements for my own health benefits. today i went to the supplement store and was taking a look at many varieties of fish oil and the worker suggested i try seal oil. any suggestions or more info about which is a good choice?

[SkinnyPupp]

ive been looking at a few supplements for my own health benefits. today i went to the supplement store and was taking a look at many varieties of fish oil and the worker suggested i try seal oil. any suggestions or more info about which is a good choice?
With Omega 3s you want to go as far DOWN the food chain as possible. So it goes

Krill Oil > Fish Oil > Salmon Oil > Seal Oil > Whale Oil, etc

Krill oil is good shit, but expensive. Salmon oil is good, but the omega 3 concentration is very low already. Fish oil is the sweet spot. for a high dose of DHA a day, with a good concentrate you are looking at 4-6 caps a day (with non concentrate, more like 12-13). With salmon oil it's up in the 20 cap a day range to reach the theraputic dose.

[SkinnyPupp]

Gaspari hits back over with their own testing

Gaspari Nutrition (http://www.gasparinutrition.com/news/viewnews.aspx?id=276)
Those tests were done last year though, it says nothing about the batch that was tested on reddit.

I do think the tests he did were "slightly better than useless" but where most were in the 70% range which I guess is good enough considering not all wheys have the same ratios of aminos in them, when yours scores 50% I am wary.

[penner2k]

Those tests were done last year though, it says nothing about the batch that was tested on reddit.

I do think the tests he did were "slightly better than useless" but where most were in the 70% range which I guess is good enough considering not all wheys have the same ratios of aminos in them, when yours scores 50% I am wary.

That would most likely be the same batch. One of the reps on bb.com said that the latest test they would have done wouldnt even be getting sold yet.

They just buy the protein in containers and then throw their own labels on. By the time it gets shipped out and makes it from distributors to stores and then sold its a good 6 months.

[instantneedles]

Thoughts on testosterone boosters? How effective are they really?

[SkinnyPupp]

Thoughts on testosterone boosters? How effective are they really?

Hardly any have proven to increase test in normal healthy people.

[spideyv2]

That 1,3 shit is killing me. I have half a tub of craze left, first $15 takes it.

Edit- pretty sure theres more than half left

[Stealthy]

That 1,3 shit is killing me. I have half a tub of craze left, first $15 takes it.

Edit- pretty sure theres more than half left

Craze doesnt have 1,3 dmaa

[Excelsis]

dat der amphetamines :troll:

i lowered dosage to half a scoop after taking a week off it, 1 scoop now makes me feel like my heart is going to explode

[spideyv2]

Craze doesnt have 1,3 dmaa

Wow, really? I dunno why the shit keeps giving me stim dick, horrible crashes, and no appetite then. I swear, after a workout i'll be sweating for another 4 hours, and be in a shitty mood for just as long.

[SkinnyPupp]

It's very closely related to 1,3d. Basically they are all "pre" amphetamines. They break down in your body into amphetamines - usually they get 'eaten' too fast to be effective, but the one used in Craze is broken down slowly enough that it gives an amphetamine like effect.

[spideyv2]

It's very closely related to 1,3d. Basically they are all "pre" amphetamines. They break down in your body into amphetamines - usually they get 'eaten' too fast to be effective, but the one used in Craze is broken down slowly enough that it gives an amphetamine like effect.

Donotwant.jpg

How is it compared to neurocore?

[Excelsis]

thing is though, if it was amphetamines i'd probably have trouble sleeping which i don't, when i took 2 scoops i felt fine except heart rate is way higher

[spideyv2]

if I take a scoop after 2, im not sleeping till 3 or 4

[Jordanl250]

It's very closely related to 1,3d. Basically they are all "pre" amphetamines. They break down in your body into amphetamines - usually they get 'eaten' too fast to be effective, but the one used in Craze is broken down slowly enough that it gives an amphetamine like effect.

hey skinny is razor 8 the one with the most, 1-3 Dimeth per serving?

[hal0g0dv2]

shit i never new razor 8 had 1,3 i just thought it had ton of caff

[Jordanl250]

shit i never new razor 8 had 1,3 i just thought it had ton of caff

haha yeah 400mg caff and 50mg DMAA

[strykn]

The old razor8 was fucking scary lol

[Excelsis]

So I picked up the remaining CRAZE bottle from jayare604 today..

Right away took 2 good sized scoops before the workout.. Not a single fuck was given! I FELT NOTHING. Maybe a little focus, but thats it. My heartrate increased for sure, but I expected a lot more because of the hype. I will not increase dosage.

I have tried a number of PWO (Jack3d, craze, white flood, razor8, superpump, 1MR, neurocore, assualt, C4 etc..) Some were samples of course.

In my opinion nothing comes close except for JACK3D or NEUROCORE. Maybe the old razor 8 and 1MR formula's with the 1,3 in it.

This is all subjective though. Everyone has a different body type and how they handle PWO's. Don't forget to cycle when using this stuff otherwise your tolerance will increase big time!

Just my opinion guys :)

lower dosage and you may feel it more.. more isn't necessarily better with craze

[evo08]

Really? I read some reviews on BB.com from product testers and the conclusion was 2 scoops to be ideal. When they lowered it back down (as one guy did from 2 scoops to 1 1/2) the focus and energy went down a bit.. hmm.. I will finish the bottle though and try it out!

[Stealthy]

Really? I read some reviews on BB.com from product testers and the conclusion was 2 scoops to be ideal. When they lowered it back down (as one guy did from 2 scoops to 1 1/2) the focus and energy went down a bit.. hmm.. I will finish the bottle though and try it out!

are you taking it on an empty stomach

[evo08]

are you taking it on an empty stomach

Yep!

[vafanculo]

I love craze. I don't get a hyper feeling like with 1MR, or razor, but the focus is intense. One scoop only.

With other pwo, once the jittery feeling is gone after 30 min or so, that's it, gg. Craze, however, keeps me focused till I run out of time for my workout.

[hal0g0dv2]

https://www.svncanada.com/product/2961/hyper-strength

not a bad deal

[SkinnyPupp]

Donotwant.jpg

How is it compared to neurocore?
Never tried neurocore but IIRC it has 1,3d as well.

[spideyv2]

@evo08 - I guess my body cant handle PWOs. That's crazy that 2 scoops didn't do much. My angus would've been peppered for a strong crash.

[Jer3]

i have the razor8 post 1,3d and even so, it still fucks me up afterwards. i get so irritable and rage really easily at the smallest shit

[instantneedles]

u get rage from razor8? seriously? I don't get rage, but i get insomnia... its why i never really take it nemore

[Jer3]

u get rage from razor8? seriously? I don't get rage, but i get insomnia... its why i never really take it nemore

yeah ive taken my fair share of pwo's (white flood, assault, no explode v2, 1mr, superpump 250/max) but razor8 is the only one that causes me to rage like no other.

[Excelsis]

nutraplanet shipping is 26 bucks... w0w and i thought i'd get neurocore for like 15 bucks lol

[SkinnyPupp]

Nice little free sample found in my Smartpowders order today :megusta:

http://i.imgur.com/dhvfk.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

http://www.extremefitnutrition.com/content/184894/productimages/851122000191.jpg

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It actually tastes like lemon + cream + even the graham pie crust :sweetjesus:

Not the greatest ingredients, so consider it more of a high protein dessert than a utilitarian "protein shake"

[evo08]

nutraplanet shipping is 26 bucks... w0w and i thought i'd get neurocore for like 15 bucks lol

Better to order a few items from nutraplanet.. so the shipping costs are spread across more items! You can get pretty close to the $15 depending on your order!

[gdoh]

goldfeist by controlled labs is pretty good too skinny

[strykn]

nutraplanet shipping is 26 bucks... w0w and i thought i'd get neurocore for like 15 bucks lol

thats why you split with 4 ppl and grab a shit load ;)

[beanzzz]

nutraplanet shipping is 26 bucks... w0w and i thought i'd get neurocore for like 15 bucks lol

Your best bet would be to have it shipped to Point Roberts/Blaine for $6.95 fixed, there's also a better chance that it won't be confiscated by customs if your bring it across yourself. They also have a pretty good deal on Jack3D as well.

[JSilver]

If anyone is interested:

http://www.revscene.net/forums/670019-fs-zma-mp-creatine.html#post7957265

[instantneedles]

Yeah, I also got a razor 8 that I barely used, i'd say 5 or 6 scoops...

I'll be selling it for pretty cheap, so now's the chance to get it if you've been wanting to try out razor 8... the stuff really works I just find that personally, I'm energized enough with a creatine mono

[Excelsis]

o razor wonder how it would compare to dat der amphetamines

[instantneedles]

^if u want i could sell it to u for cheaper

[instantneedles]

what's the best priced creatine mono for sale out there right now?

[evo08]

Yeah, I also got a razor 8 that I barely used, i'd say 5 or 6 scoops...

I'll be selling it for pretty cheap, so now's the chance to get it if you've been wanting to try out razor 8... the stuff really works I just find that personally, I'm energized enough with a creatine mono

old razor or new..

[Stealthy]

what's the best priced creatine mono for sale out there right now?

I've got AllMax Creapure, $30 for 1000 g

[Excelsis]

i bought on creatine 2kg for $40

what's the price of razor at gnc/popeyes now?

[fetched]

Anyone on HCL pills to aid digestion? For the ones that have low stomach acid

[XplicitLuder]

selling my sealed tub of craze for 40$ , lemme know if want :accepted: pretty firm on price..if it doesnt sell i dont mind, ill just save it for couple months so im back on it after i cycle off my current one

[vafanculo]

selling my sealed tub of craze for 40$ , lemme know if want :accepted: pretty firm on price..if it doesnt sell i dont mind, ill just save it for couple months so im back on it after i cycle off my current one

I'd keep it if I were you in case it gets banned, lol. I'm stocking up. 40 is a good price.. I'd buy yours, but I just bought another yesterday.

[XplicitLuder]

ya like i said if i dontg et price then ill keep :P iuno im still torn between jack3d and craze tho..some days i feel jack3d did better..some days craze

[XplicitLuder]

got couple of pm's..if strykn phaggot doesnt buy it tmrrow ill go tot he next guy and so on

[sonick]

Anybody ever order from redtagnutrition.com? Are they legit?

Prices are good but seems like a new site and can't find much info on them.

[ek1]

what are the top 3 stores to buy supplements from?

[spideyv2]

is anyone on dat dere N.O. Xplode?

please aware me on how it is

[Excelsis]

damn how hard is it for craze to test for amphetamines

just do a regular doping test on a couple of users and see if they have it in their system...

[evo08]

what are the top 3 stores to buy supplements from?

online or local?

[ek1]

online or local?

local

[cc604]

xfuel, reflex, popeyes

[XplicitLuder]

^ you forgot the other one, other members :troll:

[evo08]

Above yes. Popeyes has a 2 day sale this sat and sun (got email)

I like enhanced nutrition in burnaby.

Better to order online!

[spideyv2]

^post the e-flyer!

[evo08]

^post the e-flyer!

No e-flyer this time but here you go.. sales are alright..

Popeye's 2 Day Blow out sale! No frills .. no gimmicks just Amazing Deals!

Saturday July 7th and Sunday July 8th 2012!

First 10 customers each day get a FREE* 100g Allmax or Gaspari Creatine Valued at up to $14.99

FREE Personal training tips between 2 and 4pm in Coquitlam with Jenny Arnold *see below

Prize Draws for Free training sessions and Free Supplements!

Free Popeye's workout t-shirt* Free Sample pack with any purchase

Triple value on ALL popeyescanada.com coupons *see below

Ascenta Nutra Sea Fish Oil 500ml original - $32.99
UN CLA 90 Gel Caps - $9.99 - 1 per Customer limited Quantities
UN Creatine Monohydrate 300g - $9.99 limit 3 per customer
Gaspari Anavite 180 caps - $39.99
HydroxyStim 110 caps- $49.99
PHD Fat Catalyst 60 Caps - $39.99
PHD Wired pre workout 60 serving - $39.99
5lb Mutant Mass - $24.99 with Free 100g Creatine - 1 mutantmass/creatine offer per customer per day
Allmax New Muscle Prime - $44.99
4 EverWhey 5lb whey protein - $42.99
Pharma Freak Vita Freak - $49.99
Ihealth Green Coffee Bean Extract 60 cap - $24.99

Popeye's Supplements Canada (http://www.popeyescanada.com/couponsheet.php)
This Weekend Only click on link above (or copy and paste in browser) print off and bring in for Triple coupon Value save on The following with printed coupons;
$9 off Gaspari SuperPump
$9 off Progressive VegeGreens Exclusive 20% more Popeye's Bonus Size 635g
$15 off Hydroxycut Hardcore 120 cap
$15 off Magnum Heat
$9 off Progressive Phytoberry Exclusive 20% more Popeye's Bonus Size 1080g
$15 off Gaspari Spirodex
$6 off Myofusion 5lb
$9 off Cytosport Muscle Milk 2.48lb
$12 off Scivation Xtend 1080g

Free Training Tips with Jenny Arnold Coquitlam location 2 to 4pm Saturday
Jenny Arnold Movement :: Home Page (http://www.jennyarnoldmovement.com/)
Enter to win a Free training session with Jenny Arnold. One male session and one female session.
Also bring her a Popeye's Coquitlam or Burnaby receipt of $50 or more and save 20% off your training session!

More blow outs, overstocks, and short dates!
Limited quantities short dates and damaged stock. While supplies last. No rain checks.
Green Bulge Creatine Caps $19.99
BSN Cellmass $19.99 1 per customer
Allmax CLA Femme - $4.99
Bio-X Nitroshock - $29.99
UN CLA - $9.99
ON Fitness Fibre $4.99

*Free Creatine and t-shirt with $50 minimum purchase
Popeye's Coquitlam reserves the right to limit all and any specials, coupons, discounts, or promotions.
Please see store for details!

[spideyv2]

aww weaak, only for the coquitlam location?

[evo08]

aww weaak, only for the coquitlam location?

I assume both Burnaby and Coquitlam like usual :)

[Araaadi]

hey guys, just finished up my bottle of megamen gnc vitamins. I am looking to get opti men multivitamins, any better ones you prefer?

[strykn]

^stick to only Optimen and Orange Triad :)

[SkinnyPupp]

ORange Triad is good, Optimum not so much. NOW Adam is best bang for buck

[Mr.Money]

With Omega 3s you want to go as far DOWN the food chain as possible. So it goes

Krill Oil > Fish Oil > Salmon Oil > Seal Oil > Whale Oil, etc

Krill oil is good shit, but expensive. Salmon oil is good, but the omega 3 concentration is very low already. Fish oil is the sweet spot. for a high dose of DHA a day, with a good concentrate you are looking at 4-6 caps a day (with non concentrate, more like 12-13). With salmon oil it's up in the 20 cap a day range to reach the theraputic dose.

Krill is good,but you're right,pricy...get it here for cheap,lot less like 10-20 dollars cheaper then local stores.

Now NEPTUNE KRILL OIL 1000MG ENTERIC COATED - 60 SOFTGELS (PLUS BONUS ORGANIKA COQ10 60MG 40CAPS) - BOGO Deals - OMEGA OILS + ESSENTIAL FATS - OMEGA OILS + ESSENTIAL FATS - National Nutrition (http://www.nationalnutrition.ca/detail.aspx?ID=4144)

or you can just eat a shitload of wild salmon.

[SkinnyPupp]

You'd have to eat 5x as much salmon oil to get the same amount of omega 3 as fish oil.

[Excelsis]

money and his krill oil....


























:lawl:

[DC5-S]

Hey guys, anyone else order that pure BCAA powder off smartpowders website? It came in the mail, its really gross tasting and doesn't mix well.. but obviously I knew that before I bought it.. how do you guys take it? In a certain drink or any special way?

[hal0g0dv2]

Could add crystal light to it
Blender bottle helps, shake then wait 2 min and shake again

[SkinnyPupp]

Hey guys, anyone else order that pure BCAA powder off smartpowders website? It came in the mail, its really gross tasting and doesn't mix well.. but obviously I knew that before I bought it.. how do you guys take it? In a certain drink or any special way?
I was going to answer your PM but forgot.

Add it to a pre-existing BCAA drink, like Xtend. Because the typical 5-7g dosage these drinks give is useless anyway, what you are doing is turning it into a good 10-14g dosage instead, for a fraction of the price of using 2-3 scoops of pure product.

Xtend works well with 1 scoop and an added 6-8g of bcaa. There is enough flavour to mask it.

Universal Atomic 7 isn't strong enough to mask a big scoop of pure BCAA.

The key ingredients that cut bitter flavours are citric and malic acid. Look for something that contains one of those.

To mix it, use a blender bottle. I fill it almost to the brim for 1 scoop of xtend + bcaa

I got a sample pack of xtend with my last order, so IMO:

Good flavours:

Grape
Orange
Green Apple

Okay flavours:

Raspberry blue
Lemon Lime

Not so good:

Watermelon

[TouringTeg]

FYI latest bb.com coupon as of Aug 6 2012 is: 10GREETEMAIL 10% off

[Supafly]

So I stopped the preworkouts and creatine for awhile...2 weeks now...has anyone felt angrier and short fused?...I feel as if im just a total asshole now.. withdrawl symptoms??
srs question.

[hal0g0dv2]

So I stopped the preworkouts and creatine for awhile...2 weeks now...has anyone felt angrier and short fused?...I feel as if im just a total asshole now.. withdrawl symptoms??
srs question.

never had that before
sounds little strange

[Meowjin]

hmm, I need a new protein. The one I have does not mix well at all (mutant whey) but it was dirtttttttt cheap.

I wouldn't mind getting some more syntha6 but it has to be local since I operate cash only till I pay off my visa.

[Supafly]

never had that before
sounds little strange

yeah...I think its more of a personal stress level hitting a all new high (work/family/life)....:considered:

[JSilver]

hmm, I need a new protein. The one I have does not mix well at all (mutant whey) but it was dirtttttttt cheap.

I wouldn't mind getting some more syntha6 but it has to be local since I operate cash only till I pay off my visa.

ON? Same price as Syntha6 on XFuel but more servings. Mixes well and tastes good.

[Stealthy]

Curious how many people take the full serving of Orange Triad here? (6 tablets per day)

[Excelsis]

i took that when i first got it, piss was neon lol

then just resorted to 2-3 a day

[Recon604]

i jsut take one in the morning each day with fish oil

[SkinnyPupp]

I think for MVs, a 1/3 dose is plenty. If you really needed 100% RDI from vitamins, you aren't eating properly. If you were a vegan, then you'd definitely need a full dose, but everyone else, 1/3 or even 1/4 should be enough to "top things off"

[DC5-S]

I seem to get the runs every single day now.. fark.. what do u guys do to combat it?

[kevin7352]

anyone got a sealed tub of assault for sale?

[Meowjin]

ON? Same price as Syntha6 on XFuel but more servings. Mixes well and tastes good.

Where is the best place to buy protein?

The popeyes in richmond went downhill ever since carl sold it to someone else.

[JSilver]

Where is the best place to buy protein?

The popeyes in richmond went downhill ever since carl sold it to someone else.

I don't even buy locally any more bro, but I would do XFuel on Boundary. Buddy there gives you $10 back towards any supplement for every $100 you spend. Not bad as it does add up if you purchase quite a bit over time.

Online is the cheapest my friend if possible for you.

[hal0g0dv2]

protein locally so pricey gave up years ago

[Stealthy]

Any sites with free/really cheap shipping for Canada? Bb shipping is expensive as fuck

[TouringTeg]

I swear the cost of shipping to Canada from BB has gone way up. Still cheaper than Popeyes

Costco Kaizen on sale is still cheapest. Been awaile since the last sale.

[hal0g0dv2]

Your not going to find free shipping unless in Canada

[!Yaminashi]

What are some decent Preworkouts to consider? I'm out :(
Preferably something easy on the wallet

[kevin7352]

Unleashed Complex PRE - ORDER (http://www.shop.barthelfitness.com/Unleashed-Pre-Workout-MUSCLE-PUNCH-unleashed.htm)

JR Barthel from youtube made his own company and is selling this one. $35 for 60 servings...it has really awesome reviews too. i'm thinking about trying it out

[Recon604]

Any sites with free/really cheap shipping for Canada? Bb shipping is expensive as fuck

go ship it to Point roberts

[evo08]

What are some decent Preworkouts to consider? I'm out :(
Preferably something easy on the wallet

Assault
Hermavol
Craze
Superpump max

I take none of the above.. but its what works. I stick to neurocore or jack3d (old formulas)

[sonick]

I just ordered some Assault, Creatine and Beta Alanine from RedTagNutrition, the prices were way better than SVN or SupplementsCanada (Popeyes), shipping was a bit expensive at $15, not sure if they ship free after $99.

NationalProtein.ca does for sure, and prices were similar.

[evo08]

I just ordered some Assault, Creatine and Beta Alanine from RedTagNutrition, the prices were way better than SVN or SupplementsCanada (Popeyes), shipping was a bit expensive at $15, not sure if they ship free after $99.

NationalProtein.ca does for sure, and prices were similar.

Pretty sure after $99 it's free.

I ordered recently and it was!

Edit: Actually not sure about redtag. Was referring to the other two. I just stick with bb.com large orders for the win!

[rageguy]

Redtag has a coupon right now. 5% off. august5
BB has a coupon right now. 10OFFSUPPAWARDS for 10% off.

[sonick]

fuck, I Googled and couldn't find a coupon for red tag. Too late, oh well.

[sonick]

Quick review; been on MP Assault for a week now, and I must say, it seems to work. You don't get the wired/jitters of Superpump or 1MR, but the greater endurance and stamina is clearly and definitely noticeable.

However, because it doesn't feel as 'stimulating' as Superpump and 1MR (only other two PreWO I've tried), I don't get the same feeling of focus as I've had with the other two. I don't have that crazy "I'M GONNA RIP THIS SET UP" feeling with Assault.

A caveat, I did also start dosing Beta Alanine at the same time, so my anecdotal evidence may be confounded, but from what I've read I don't think BA would have such an effect so soon.

[Verdasco]

hmm just found out my step bro had a nice tub of beta alaline in the kitchen... should i steal it and use it? haha

with the free shipping, bought some MP assualt and creatine, any other stuff a regular should need? :joy: free shipping FTW

[Stealthy]

hmm just found out my step bro had a nice tub of beta alaline in the kitchen... should i steal it and use it? haha

with the free shipping, bought some MP assualt and creatine, any other stuff a regular should need? :joy: free shipping FTW

Ridiculous how bodybuilding doesn't just have free shipping above $50...

[dyan]

There was a free shipping code for bodybuildling yesterday.. only for a short period of time though. I think I got my order in the final 10 minutes.