[twitchyzero]

people still play overwatch? blizzturd outside of s. korea hasn't been relevant for almost 2 decades now

[SkinnyPupp]

https://www.gofundme.com/f/free-hong-kong-tshirts-on-nba-opening-night

Campaign to raise enough money to give away STAND WITH HONG KONG shirts to everyone in attendance at the opening NBA game in LA. They're at 150% of the $20K goal in one day, and I wonder if they raise enough money to do this at ALL the NBA games on opening night?

[eclipseman]

If China really has it figured out, why is no one immigrating there? Why do people from all over the world constantly immigrate to western countries? Surely, democracy is not the way of humanity...

[SkinnyPupp]

There's a conspiracy theory going around that many (if not all) of the MTR station vandalism came from police agent provocateurs and not protesters. I pretty much dismissed the notion, but man there is more and more evidence coming out all the time that at least makes it worth investigating.

The main issue is that there is proven evidence that MTR stations were cleared out for at least an hour before any vandalism could have taken place. In the age of live streaming, you really can't hide it. If a stream is showing an undamaged MTR station being cleared out by police, and then shows nobody other than police in the stations after it closed, and then that station is vandalised, you really have to consider the possibility. Of course, it's possible that they got destroyed in the middle of the night after the police left.

But then there's footage like this, of "protesters" who made their way into stations, using the same flashlights the cops always use, and carrying what appears to be pepper spray

https://twitter.com/FreedomHK6/status/1181596546585858053

https://twitter.com/WBYeats1865/status/1181607976324349952

Still not convinced, but I definitely wouldn't' dismiss it as easily as I would when the stories first started coming. Or maybe these are protesters dressed as police, dressed as protesters. Or there are some police who are actually protesters. There is SO MUCH shitty "fake news" that you have to be really careful.

[bcedhk]

https://www.gofundme.com/f/free-hong-kong-tshirts-on-nba-opening-night

Campaign to raise enough money to give away STAND WITH HONG KONG shirts to everyone in attendance at the opening NBA game in LA. They're at 150% of the $20K goal in one day, and I wonder if they raise enough money to do this at ALL the NBA games on opening night?

The staple center will probably beef up their security gates and confiscate the t-shirts before going in.

[freakshow]

I like to think of this situation like the monkey experiment. The scientists running the water are China, the banana is democracy, and the monkeys are the people. HK is the current monkey trying to climb the ladder, while all the other monkeys are trying to stop him, even though they can't explain why.

https://i.snipboard.io/kdu77.jpg
This is a dumb illustration. The scientists purposely create a negative effect on the action of taking the banana. The monkeys CORRECTLY stop each other from going to get it. They pass this on CORRECTLY, because if any of the new monkeys go up, they would still get the cold shower.

[$_$]

There's a conspiracy theory going around that many (if not all) of the MTR station vandalism came from police agent provocateurs and not protesters. I pretty much dismissed the notion, but man there is more and more evidence coming out all the time that at least makes it worth investigating.


It's really hard to dismiss when you watch the streams and see this happening on the regular.

My problem with this is, the frontliners have made it their mandate to continuously attack the MTR; so what sympathy are people supposed to have when the police dress up as protestors and wreck it themselves? Even if the police is framing the protestors (which we can see the videos, its very possible they are), why does it matter? If anything the police are just doing more of their dirty work.

Frontliners need to take a more cohesive stance on this - you are either for the wrecking of the MTR or you aren't, or else it shouldn't matter who is doing it

[$_$]

.....


Yo bro, please just stop. Now you making pro-democratic/freedom loving people look bad :rukidding::heckno:

[SkinnyPupp]

It's really hard to dismiss when you watch the streams and see this happening on the regular.

My problem with this is, the frontliners have made it their mandate to continuously attack the MTR; so what sympathy are people supposed to have when the police dress up as protestors and wreck it themselves? Even if the police is framing the protestors (which we can see the videos, its very possible they are), why does it matter? If anything the police are just doing more of their dirty work.

Frontliners need to take a more cohesive stance on this - you are either for the wrecking of the MTR or you aren't, or else it shouldn't matter who is doing it
I've seen on lihkg that the protesters seem to be really reconsidering the level of destruction they do during protest. They seem to have figured out that agent provocateurs have been very active in promoting more intense vandalism (along with being out there to commit it) and riling people up. I think they want to take a step back. This also includes attacking people when defending themselves from those morons who come at them with knives and axes (and taxis). There was an incident last night, but the guy was disarmed, and they left him alone after that (as far as I can tell).

I know for sure they wrecked some of the MTR stations - for instance they ran a hose from a fire hydrant to the Wong Tai Sin MTR and flooded it. And tossing molotovs at an elevator in Mong Kok for instance. But did they do enough to force a total shutdown of the MTR?

Also MTR has changed the wording of their signs to specifically point out "vandalism" as being the cause for issues. Oh, and some of the machines with these out of order signs are actually still totally functional, just the screens are disabled (though the video doesn't show the machine from all angles, they definitely seem to be in fine working order)

[SkinnyPupp]

HK Firefighters put out a video that is in favor of the protests. Th ey are frustrated by having police constantly blocking them from doing their jobs. Just yesterday, someone released an MRI of a protester's brain that was bashed in by cops, and there was a huge blood clot from the damage that needed surgery. Cops allegedly had kept him away from paramedics for 6 hours. Much longer and he'd be dead.

There are many horror stories that come out after the cameras are turned off, and even more that probably don't come out. I mean we see what they do when they know they are being filmed, can you imagine what they do when they're not?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ssDzt2jGwk

Anyway, this has me very worried, because we saw what beijing did to the last public service (MTR) just for being neutral, not even in favor of the public...

[$_$]

HK Firefighters put out a video that is in favor of the protests. Th ey are frustrated by having police constantly blocking them from doing their jobs. Just yesterday, someone released an MRI of a protester's brain that was bashed in by cops, and there was a huge blood clot from the damage that needed surgery. Cops allegedly had kept him away from paramedics for 6 hours. Much longer and he'd be dead.


Skinny, thoughts on all these suicides/floating dead bodies in the river? Police really that brazen nowdays to just kill people and send the bodies out as a message? That would require a huge amount of police officers to be complete psychos right?

[Indy]

This is a dumb illustration. The scientists purposely create a negative effect on the action of taking the banana. The monkeys CORRECTLY stop each other from going to get it. They pass this on CORRECTLY, because if any of the new monkeys go up, they would still get the cold shower.

here's another example of this with no negative effect...and it's with a different type of monkey too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8BkzvP19v4

[twitchyzero]

If China really has it figured out, why is no one immigrating there? Why do people from all over the world constantly immigrate to western countries? Surely, democracy is not the way of humanity...

ever had to compete with 1.4B people?

ever had your lungs choking for air that isn't filled with crap?

eat food you don't have to question?

[StylinRed]

Didn't realize that the two interviewers also had their contracts with Blizzard cut

The company also terminated contracts with the two casters conducting Sunday’s interview.

https://twitter.com/InvenGlobal/status/1180954142396710912

Skinny, thoughts on all these suicides/floating dead bodies in the river? Police really that brazen nowdays to just kill people and send the bodies out as a message? That would require a huge amount of police officers to be complete psychos right?

The suicides are in line with the typical average number of suicides, think there may be a slight uptick, but in times of distress/unrest, depressed ppl are triggered

The idiots imagining police are hiding bodies with elaborate suicides are just a bit much

[Hehe]

Are you fucking kidding me ? The hundreds and thousands of dead Chinese who fought forthe ccp and nationalists would like a word with you. The only reason Taiwan isn’t an integrated part of China today is because of the US containment doctrine and the fact that mao couldn’t row a god damn boat over. East and west Germany unification only happened because the ussr could no longer maintain itself. That’s the ideal situation to get rid of the ccp, it just happens naturally and the whole system implodes.

I love how pro hongers always end up with the argument That if you love it so much then go back home. Same be said for every ex pat or immigrant turned citizen. You guys say the same shit to all the East Indians Canadians who still love India ? Or is it possible that they can still love their home and adopted countries.

If you want to talk history, let's talk.

CCP stood put when KMT started fighting the Japanese, and after KMT lost much of its power by fighting the Japanese army, CCP then started the fight against KMT and had the audacity the claim that KMT started the civil war. KMT was the LEADING party back then while CCP was the rebels. What kind of leading party starts a Civil war? This is how CCP took over China from KMT.

East Germany's collapse was NOT because of lack of Russia's support. It was BECAUSE of the internal conflicts of strong opposition, particularly from the churches. If you are saying that because Gorbachev, which was seeking a full reform of East Germany (hence opposing sending troops to suppress East German protesters) a lack of support, then I can see where you were going with the "lack" of support.

Ultimately, it was the East Germans who began tearing down the wall and the leader of Christian Democrat, Maizière became the head of East German gov't and decided to unify with West Germany and NATO.

But enough of history lessons as it has nothing to do with it. We were discussing about the cost of transition from authoritarian/socialism to democracy.

Many socialism or authoritarian states transitioned to a full democratic because they had a visionary, Russia had Gobarchev, Taiwan had Ching-kuo Chiang and both had a relatively little conflict for the process. Taiwan went democratic in 1988 after a series of law changes paving the way necessary for a multi-party democratic system. There was no bloodshed, civil war or anything alike. It just flowed accordingly. Civil elections started taking places and the rest is history.

So no, don't come to me with the crap that democratization cause bloodshed. or chaos. It can be done and had been done many times peacefully. The only argument is that CCP is willing to sacrifice the freedom of billions of Chinese citizens for the sake and benefit of its own.

Thus, when discussing this topic, one have to be clear whether they are pro-China or pro-CCP. They are two totally different things. I'm perfectly fine with pro-China... but Pro-CCP absolutely disgusts me because they violate so many human rights all in the sake of what? "Harmony"? Fuck no... it's the only argument CCP has to stay in power and those who are in charge can continue benefit from it.

They are not doing this for the sake of Chinese citizens benefits. China's economy can continue to grow with a democratic system, but the only thing is now they ACTUALLY have to take people's voice into consideration and not doing whatever the fuck they feel like.

What they are doing now for China is not what's people in China wants... it's what CCP wants people in China to have.

[threezero]

If China really has it figured out, why is no one immigrating there? Why do people from all over the world constantly immigrate to western countries? Surely, democracy is not the way of humanity...

China does not encourage immigration, they have issue with population control as it is.

Their immigration process make it virtually impossible for anybody that wasn't born in China to get citizenship. Hell if you are born in China and you immigrated somewhere else and renouce your PRC citizenship it is almost impossible to get it back.

There are lots of expat from all over the world that lives in China, and yes some do come from western free and democracy countries. Stroll through Shanghai Downtown on a Friday night and you will see more Caucasians walking around than a regular day in Richmond. Some stay for business, some stay because they have a family in China now. Some stay just because they like the place.

This is not any different that any other countries. When you have a stable economic condition, people will come to seek whatever future they envision.

But it is very very hard for any non native born expat to receive a Chinese citizenship.

Sidney Rittenberg come to mind. An American that stayed in China after WW2 and become a senior member of the Communist party. He was right alongside Mao from the beginning, went thru the cultural revolution and was jailed twice on suspecion of him being a spy, oh the irony lol. He held high position within the communist party but in the end he never got a chinese citizenship.

Unlike Canada, China's does not offer an encouraging immigration policies. Those have have succesful immigrated to China, did not arrive with plans to immigrate. They all start with a short term visa or somesort thatn had to jump through a millions hoops if they do want to stay. The primary reason why I think most expat do not even try to get the Chinese citizenship is that it is hard to travel with one. There is much restriction when it comes to Visa. And they is really no issue to keep their original citizenship. That and many other benefits that comes with a western passport make it hard to give it up (single citizenship rule in China is pretty hard to circuvant). Unlike country that enourage immigration, there isn't really an active task force hunting down illegal immigrate in China. It is not too hard to overstay your official welcome and be perfectly fine as a gwailo in China.

We are thinking of immigration in the traditional western perspective, most people choose to immigrate to a place because they have done all the research and decided this is the place i want to make a future in.

Most people that ended up staying in China for long term or for good happens the other way around. Started with a short temporal trip, than found whatever reason it is that made them stay.

Either way, there are not alot of immigrates in China. But there are alot of expat that thought they were only going to pass by China for work or whatever and ended up staying for good, with or without an official citizenship.


Free choice to live where you want, Imagine that.

[whitev70r]

Yo bro, please just stop. Now you making pro-democratic/freedom loving people look bad :rukidding::heckno:

Wait is $_$ or hi-revs the pro China provocateur ... or both?

[bobbinka]

This is a dumb illustration. The scientists purposely create a negative effect on the action of taking the banana. The monkeys CORRECTLY stop each other from going to get it. They pass this on CORRECTLY, because if any of the new monkeys go up, they would still get the cold shower.

FailFish obviously it's not an exact parallel. if that's your takeaway, you've missed the point.

[SkinnyPupp]

Skinny, thoughts on all these suicides/floating dead bodies in the river? Police really that brazen nowdays to just kill people and send the bodies out as a message? That would require a huge amount of police officers to be complete psychos right?
My thoughts on that, and the reason I never brought it up here, is that HK has a shockingly high suicide rate (like 80 per month) and these fall within that range. If anything, I am amazed that there aren't more suicides. HK people, especially the youths, are being very strong during this, keeping each other motivated. Maybe if things get even worse, and more people lose hope, that will happen.

[SkinnyPupp]

What it's like to simply walk down the sidewalk as a HKer these days

https://twitter.com/Will73046020/status/1181111681012785152

Sometimes I wonder if they are drugging up these cops or hypnotizing them or something. They are not acting the least bit normal most of the time.

[hi-revs]

When has HKPD ever acted this way to HK civilians, before this whole mess? Definitely makes me think that theres only china cops out on the streets now. Who knows what they did, or moved HK cops to...
Just the tone and the way they yell...

[Manic!]

Some famous? Gamer based in Hong Kong, had his accounts banned/froze/deleted by Blizzard for supporting HK during an interview


https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/1181442535962632193

He is a pro player and they took away his prize money that he one at a tournament.

Companies have to understand people in the west are not going to stand for this B.S.

[punkwax]

He is a pro player and they took away his prize money that he one at a tournament.

Companies have to understand people in the west are not going to stand for this B.S.

Dude your grammar/spelling errors are next level.. EleGiggle

[SkinnyPupp]

When has HKPD ever acted this way to HK civilians, before this whole mess? Definitely makes me think that theres only china cops out on the streets now. Who knows what they did, or moved HK cops to...
Just the tone and the way they yell...
Never never never. HKers saw it as a privilege to have an awesome police force, unlike much of the rest of the world. Little did they know, things were changing behind the scenes that they wouldn't realize until they started speaking out against the CCP.

[SkinnyPupp]

Protest planned at Blizzard HQ on Friday morning.

Someone at Blizz anonymously defaced their statue (https://kotaku.com/blizzards-company-values-dont-mean-much-today-1838891183), covering up two company values that they obviously aren't following anymore

https://twitter.com/lackofrealism/status/1181639970332659712

[threezero]

NBA and Blizzard triggering China I can kind of understand. They are big in China and well China is afraid of things getting out of hand.

But banning an unpopular cartoon show that 0.00000001% of the population watches and understands? Thats a whole new level of butt hurt lol

One interesting thing I have noticed. NBA is huge in China, since the whole fiasco there is now people openly discussing whether patriotism has to includes boycotting something they love for one small comment. Basketball is huge in China, It is overtaking table tennis as the national sport, I think NBA fiasco is a good wake up call to the whole population how out of hand censorship can get. People are feeling the internal struggle of denouncing something the genuinely love in the name of the party.

Alot of WeChat moments are questioning why they might not be able to watch NBA in the future because someone somewhere said something they pay little attention to.

Ironic isn't it that people only realize how important stuff are when it is under threat of being taken away.

[SkinnyPupp]

NBA and Blizzard triggering China I can kind of understand. They are big in China and well China is afraid of things getting out of hand.

But banning an unpopular cartoon show that 0.00000001% of the population watches and understands? Thats a whole new level of butt hurt lol
I'm amazed they weren't banned already

[Alpine]

NBA and Blizzard triggering China I can kind of understand. They are big in China and well China is afraid of things getting out of hand.

But banning an unpopular cartoon show that 0.00000001% of the population watches and understands? Thats a whole new level of butt hurt lol

This also happens to an extent in north america. We only see what mass media wants to show us.

[SkinnyPupp]

Chinese tourist in Taiwan tears down Lennon wall, gets deported and banned from country for 5 years. (https://news.ltn.com.tw/news/society/breakingnews/2940785)

Come on Canada, learn from this! Kappa

[twdm]

Sooo is badhobz self deporting himself? Do I need to start a gofundme to make it look more legit? Heck I can write a cheque that skinny can hold on to, to prove I'm serious.

[threezero]

If you want to talk history, let's talk.

CCP stood put when KMT started fighting the Japanese, and after KMT lost much of its power by fighting the Japanese army, CCP then started the fight against KMT and had the audacity the claim that KMT started the civil war. KMT was the LEADING party back then while CCP was the rebels. What kind of leading party starts a Civil war? This is how CCP took over China from KMT.

East Germany's collapse was NOT because of lack of Russia's support. It was BECAUSE of the internal conflicts of strong opposition, particularly from the churches. If you are saying that because Gorbachev, which was seeking a full reform of East Germany (hence opposing sending troops to suppress East German protesters) a lack of support, then I can see where you were going with the "lack" of support.

Ultimately, it was the East Germans who began tearing down the wall and the leader of Christian Democrat, Maizière became the head of East German gov't and decided to unify with West Germany and NATO.

But enough of history lessons as it has nothing to do with it. We were discussing about the cost of transition from authoritarian/socialism to democracy.

Many socialism or authoritarian states transitioned to a full democratic because they had a visionary, Russia had Gobarchev, Taiwan had Ching-kuo Chiang and both had a relatively little conflict for the process. Taiwan went democratic in 1988 after a series of law changes paving the way necessary for a multi-party democratic system. There was no bloodshed, civil war or anything alike. It just flowed accordingly. Civil elections started taking places and the rest is history.

So no, don't come to me with the crap that democratization cause bloodshed. or chaos. It can be done and had been done many times peacefully. The only argument is that CCP is willing to sacrifice the freedom of billions of Chinese citizens for the sake and benefit of its own.

Thus, when discussing this topic, one have to be clear whether they are pro-China or pro-CCP. They are two totally different things. I'm perfectly fine with pro-China... but Pro-CCP absolutely disgusts me because they violate so many human rights all in the sake of what? "Harmony"? Fuck no... it's the only argument CCP has to stay in power and those who are in charge can continue benefit from it.

They are not doing this for the sake of Chinese citizens benefits. China's economy can continue to grow with a democratic system, but the only thing is now they ACTUALLY have to take people's voice into consideration and not doing whatever the fuck they feel like.

What they are doing now for China is not what's people in China wants... it's what CCP wants people in China to have.

I too think the final progression of any advance society is democracy. That should be the end goal of all society.

But I dont think China is ready today. All of the example you provide are country withs fractions of land and people compare to China. (exception being Russia, however post-democratic Former USSR territory is also fraction the size of pre-democratic USSR)

Russia (the modern day Russia not the USSR days) is also rule by iron hands. Ironically it economy overshadows that of its former USSR comrades.

And you are also right in that a successful revolution take a true visionary. This is a key piece of the puzzle is the missing in the Hong Kong revolution. I blame all the senseless vandalized, violence and misguide view of how a negotiation should work on having a mob lead a revolution.

You need a visionary to bring everyone together. Without that visionary, nobody in China will just get up a revolt and gamble everything they have on Mob mentality. One of the common objection when it comes to democracy when you talk to a educated mainlander, even one with the privilege of studying aboard, is the worry that their voice will be drown out by the voice of the poor and uneducated who will literally vote for who ever give them a piece of meat for dinner or even a guarantee of absolutely mobility into the city (controlling the flow of population is one of the key way CCP maintains control). Alot of China is still not educated enough to see past what happening tomorrow.

If anything Hong Kong stand the most chance of producing this visionary person. Yet the revolution is lead by bunch of kids and politician that hides and pass blame.

There is only two way to path of democracy in China, a true visionary (how many year do we have to wait for this to happened within a completely control society?) or the total collapse on the current system to a point where people are willing to gamble for something better.

There is a third option, CCP willingly give up their power in due time. The visionary could come from within the system. Dont hold your breath though, its is unlikely we will see any of these happening within our life time.

[punkwax]

Chinese tourist in Taiwan tears down Lennon wall, gets deported and banned from country for 5 years. (https://news.ltn.com.tw/news/society/breakingnews/2940785)

Come on Canada, learn from this! Kappa

https://media.tenor.com/images/3bf544a13cc262d968f8180de468f100/tenor.gif

[CivicBlues]

Everyone posting here needs to get a life. Seriously.

Yes that means me too :troll:

[Badhobz]

Sooo is badhobz self deporting himself? Do I need to start a gofundme to make it look more legit? Heck I can write a cheque that skinny can hold on to, to prove I'm serious.

Big talk, not sure if your serious but buy the ticket first, since it’s your suggestion. I ain’t going to do shit until I have that ticket in hand. Also make sure that ticket is non refundable in case you try something screwy.

I got family to visit and some shopping to do.

Chinese New Year time is good for 2020. YVR to Shanghai. Business.

Make it happen tough guy.

[twitchyzero]

can we also deport hi-revs to kowloon? he'd fit right in with the freedom fighters!

[Hehe]

Big talk, not sure if your serious but buy the ticket first, since it’s your suggestion. I ain’t going to do shit until I have that ticket in hand. Also make sure that ticket is non refundable in case you try something screwy.

I got family to visit and some shopping to do.

Chinese New Year time is good for 2020. YVR to Shanghai. Business.

Make it happen tough guy.

You talk a lot of talk, let's see if you can walk the walk.

I'm willing to go to my lawyer at all of our earliest convenience and set up an escrow fund with more than enough fund to cover for a 1-way business/first class ticket assuming you sign the contract that you are renouncing your CDN citizenship in exchange for it within an acceptable time period.

Lawyer will release the fund as soon as you get the certificate of renunciation and you'd be assured that we can't withdraw our fund in the mean time.

If you can't walk the walk, STFU.

[SnK1800]

You talk a lot of talk, let's see if you can walk the walk.

I'm willing to go to my lawyer at all of our earliest convenience and set up an escrow fund with more than enough fund to cover for a 1-way business/first class ticket assuming you sign the contract that you are renouncing your CDN citizenship in exchange for it within an acceptable time period.

Lawyer will release the fund as soon as you get the certificate of renunciation and you'd be assured that we can't withdraw our fund in the mean time.

If you can't walk the walk, STFU.

Lets make this happen:fuckyea:

[RiceIntegraRS]

i got $50 on it

[StylinRed]

Oh shit tvb comedian actress got fucked up by protesters

https://www.straitstimes.com/sites/default/files/styles/x_large/public/articles/2019/10/09/nz_celinema_091019.jpg?itok=0p3D_ze8&timestamp=1570597422
https://www.straitstimes.com/lifestyle/entertainment/tvb-actress-requires-11-stitches-after-sunday-attack-by-protesters-in-hk

Supposedly she was out in mong kok, and was either filming protesters, or was just set upon because she was recognized, she's voiced her disagreement to violent protesters online before, and then...

https://youtu.be/5Lx3DQtD-UI

More footage, from the Aussie reporter that helped her

https://youtu.be/yA3iNUepdUY

[SkinnyPupp]

Another Hearthstone team stands up for Hong Kong, they cut them out and disable face cams for the rest of the day

https://twitter.com/Woppa1Woppa/status/1181808891404808193

Long time Blizzard employee quits and boycotts Blizzard

https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/1181736075775004672

[twdm]

You talk a lot of talk, let's see if you can walk the walk.

I'm willing to go to my lawyer at all of our earliest convenience and set up an escrow fund with more than enough fund to cover for a 1-way business/first class ticket assuming you sign the contract that you are renouncing your CDN citizenship in exchange for it within an acceptable time period.

Lawyer will release the fund as soon as you get the certificate of renunciation and you'd be assured that we can't withdraw our fund in the mean time.

If you can't walk the walk, STFU.
I'm down. Let me know the details and I can fund the account from my canadian bank. $3-4k cad is chump change to make history on revscene.

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/ezracheungtoto/status/1181292976993001472

These security guards have been arrested for trying to keep police off their private property, since no warrant was provided, and nobody had reported a crime (the two circumstances that allow police to enter private property)

This is just a process, I doubt the charges will stand

[SkinnyPupp]

NBA preseason

https://twitter.com/Woppa1Woppa/status/1181853655462318081

[SkinnyPupp]

Since Blizzard acted against Hong Kong in favour of fascism, they are claiming Mei as their latest spokesperson. I don't play Overwatch, but I think she's the Chinese hero. The argument being that if she was a real Chinese hero, she would fight for Hong Kong (as I think anyone with morals would). I think part of the motivation is to get her banned in China, or at least try to screw with Blizzard in some way

https://streamable.com/vbopu

There's lots of other art out there but this video was pretty good LUL

[StylinRed]

Lmao that is pretty well done

Disney has given orders that espn not talk about China's political/humanitarian/etc issues, when reporting on the NBA issue

And I was watching CNA (singapore news) and they were reporting on how much companies in China make from having the NBA aired there, and tencent makes like $4bn from NBA streams, so I don't think a ban would last

[SkinnyPupp]

If this is any indication, they'll want to start airing NBA again LUL

https://twitter.com/ho_steffie/status/1181618396690993152

BTW protesters planned to show up at MOSTown mall (in Ma On Shan) in support of the arrested security guards tonight at 7:30pm. The mall found out, and closed at 7:00 EleGiggle

Everyone scared of cops now, can't even have a peaceful mall protest anymore

[StylinRed]

lmao they'd just need to recruit ppl from the US n EU to play in their league, and it'd eventually makeup for the lack of the NBA(doubt the ban will last anyway)

Seems like this protest has gained a shitload of attention this past week, wonder how things will play out now

[Badhobz]

You talk a lot of talk, let's see if you can walk the walk.

I'm willing to go to my lawyer at all of our earliest convenience and set up an escrow fund with more than enough fund to cover for a 1-way business/first class ticket assuming you sign the contract that you are renouncing your CDN citizenship in exchange for it within an acceptable time period.

Lawyer will release the fund as soon as you get the certificate of renunciation and you'd be assured that we can't withdraw our fund in the mean time.

If you can't walk the walk, STFU.

You can’t get a “certificate of renunciation“ until the Chinese government accepts your immigration. You can’t be nationless. I’d have to remain Canadian until Chinese immigration works out. So go the fuck ahead. Setup your lawyer make sure he does immigration too because I ain’t doing jack shit for jumping through Chinese immigration hoops. Hukuo is next to impossible to obtain so good fucking luck. Big talk from you fucking clowns, I’ll see it when you actually send funds over. And please don’t group fund this because this isn’t a joint venture. You each need to throw in a business ticket since each of you cocky ass motherfuckers say you’re willing to undertake this project. That’s 2 business tickets right now and all the legal fees for Chinese immigration. One ticket from hehe and one from twdm. Anyone else wanna join in ? I got a few more friend who would like to go too.

Go ahead arrange your lawyer. I’m free in December. You’re going to have to pay for my legal representation too since once again this is all your idea. You wanna play fuckers ? Let’s play internet tough guy.

[punkwax]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/gl0mkIZOW6Nwc/giphy.gif

[SkinnyPupp]

You can’t get a “certificate of renunciation“ until the Chinese government accepts your immigration. You can’t be nationless. I’d have to remain Canadian until Chinese immigration works out. So go the fuck ahead. Setup your lawyer make sure he does immigration too because I ain’t doing jack shit for jumping through Chinese immigration hoops. Hukuo is next to impossible to obtain so good fucking luck. Big talk from you fucking clowns, I’ll see it when you actually send funds over. And please don’t group fund this because this isn’t a joint venture. You each need to throw in a business ticket since each of you cocky ass motherfuckers say you’re willing to undertake this project. That’s 2 business tickets right now and all the legal fees for Chinese immigration. One ticket from hehe and one from twdm. Anyone else wanna join in ? I got a few more friend who would like to go too.

Go ahead arrange your lawyer. I’m free in December. You’re going to have to pay for my legal representation too since once again this is all your idea. You wanna play fuckers ? Let’s play internet tough guy.
You still have a chance to stop trying to "save face" and back out... Give up man, face it, you do NOT want to live in mainland China, and nobody here blames you.

[SkinnyPupp]

But banning an unpopular cartoon show that 0.00000001% of the population watches and understands? Thats a whole new level of butt hurt lol


Just how butt-hurt can they get?

https://twitter.com/HighlandPaddyHK/status/1181890308600025088

(Tested this and it's true. I can access the URL fine via VPN)

[Badhobz]

You still have a chance to stop trying to "save face" and back out... Give up man, face it, you do NOT want to live in mainland China, and nobody here blames you.

Why do I have to back down when they are the ones who suggests it ? I’m willing to play this game. I just wanna see if they are willing to pay the cost of running their mouths online. Set it up, pm me the dates and twdm you probably need a proxy or else you’ll need to fly in so lawyer up too. This is going to get expensive for you fucks because I sure as shit ain’t going to make it cheap for you.

[SkinnyPupp]

Why do I have to back down when they are the ones who suggests it ? I’m willing to play this game. I just wanna see if they are willing to pay the cost of running their mouths online. Set it up, pm me the dates and twdm you probably need a proxy or else you’ll need to fly in so lawyer up too. This is going to get expensive for you fucks because I sure as shit ain’t going to make it cheap for you.
You're not going to follow through in the end. The only reason you're going along with it is because you believe people won't follow through. When all is said and done, you will have to back out anyway. You're even trying to increase the expenses as it is, so make sure you end up being right.

I truly believe there are people who would be willing to put an obvious fascist shill/troll in their place by shipping them to China for good. It's just not really worth the hassle IMO.

Just give up, you take your face loss, and move on. I'm trying to help everyone get along here.

[twdm]

You can’t get a “certificate of renunciation“ until the Chinese government accepts your immigration. You can’t be nationless. I’d have to remain Canadian until Chinese immigration works out. So go the fuck ahead. Setup your lawyer make sure he does immigration too because I ain’t doing jack shit for jumping through Chinese immigration hoops. Hukuo is next to impossible to obtain so good fucking luck. Big talk from you fucking clowns, I’ll see it when you actually send funds over. And please don’t group fund this because this isn’t a joint venture. You each need to throw in a business ticket since each of you cocky ass motherfuckers say you’re willing to undertake this project. That’s 2 business tickets right now and all the legal fees for Chinese immigration. One ticket from hehe and one from twdm. Anyone else wanna join in ? I got a few more friend who would like to go too.

Go ahead arrange your lawyer. I’m free in December. You’re going to have to pay for my legal representation too since once again this is all your idea. You wanna play fuckers ? Let’s play internet tough guy.

For someone whose lifelong dream was to be a chinese citizen, you're sure making us go through a lot of hoops to help you fulfill your dream. In terms of the ticket funding, we're covered (Hehe offered to top you up to first class, which is actually more expensive than two business class tickets, but I guess logic isn't your strong suit). Also, you don't need a fucking lawyer to apply for Chinese citizenship. You just need to renounce your canadian citizenship once you're approved.

Let me go through the simple steps with you:
1. Apply for restoration of chinese nationality
2. Once chinese citizenship is obtained, apply for renunciation of canadian citizenship (as canada allows for dual nationality)
3. Business class ticket will be waiting for you. Hell I'll throw in a limousine with them chinese flags on the front for you to the airport.

I'm willing to escrow the money until this is sorted out.

[Badhobz]

Why you talking for them?

[Badhobz]

For someone whose lifelong dream was to be a chinese citizen, you're sure making us go through a lot of hoops to help you fulfill your dream. In terms of the ticket funding, we're covered (Hehe offered to top you up to first class, which is actually more expensive than two business class tickets, but I guess logic isn't your strong suit). Also, you don't need a fucking lawyer to apply for Chinese citizenship. You just need to renounce your canadian citizenship once you're approved.

Let me go through the simple steps with you:
1. Apply for chinese citizenship (link to the form: https://www.immd.gov.hk/eng/forms/forms/id878.html)
2. Once chinese citizenship is obtained, apply for renunciation of canadian citizenship (as canada allows for dual nationality)
3. Business class ticket will be waiting for you. Hell I'll throw in a limousine with them chinese flags on the front for you to the airport.

I'm willing to escrow the money until this is sorted out.
Yeah okay fucker so see you in 10 to 12 years then if ever. That’s how long immigration takes. But you wanna play so get the lawyers together and let’s draft this.

[twdm]

Yeah okay fucker so see you in 10 to 12 years then if ever. That’s how long immigration takes. But you wanna play so get the lawyers together and let’s draft this.

You're not immigrating, you're restoring your nationality. Whether it is approved or not is another problem, but all it takes is a simple application form. No lawyers required. You're making it as if most of the chinese population is rich as fuck and have access to lawyers on a whim.

Do you fucking hire a lawyer to apply for a passport?

[Badhobz]

My nationality is Canadian. There is no restoration of Chinese nationality. Hence the lawyers needed for this whole process. What you pussying out again ? Why don’t you want lawyers involved.

Yeah most of the Chinese people ain’t rich as fuck but I am. This isn’t some bullshit elementary school game where you can pinky swear on it. You wanna do this, everyone is going to have to have legal representation to make sure it’s binding.

[SkinnyPupp]

Apple will soon have a decision to make

China warns Apple against ‘unwise and reckless’ support of Hong Kong protesters (https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/10/09/china-warns-apple-unwise-reckless-support-hong-kong-protesters)

Blizzard loses one of their most important on-air personalities, Brian Kibler (http://bmkgaming.com/statement-on-blitzchung/). He quit after the heavy-handed ban.

NBA community event in Shanghai has been canceled (https://www.scmp.com/sport/basketball/article/3031957/nba-cancels-shanghai-brooklyn-nets-event-political-storm-china). No word on whether the upcoming exhibition games will go on or not.

For the small minded people who think "this is just a HK thing"... Like I said, no. China is alienating themselves from the world, little by little. They are going back to 70's style isolation from the rest of the world.

Any company that doesn't stand up to them will feel it from their western customers. If they want that sweet chinese money so bad, fine. I think the goal should be to make it so that's the only money they make. Until they get banned in China for some random reason, then they're fucked LUL

[Hehe]

You can’t get a “certificate of renunciation“ until the Chinese government accepts your immigration. You can’t be nationless. I’d have to remain Canadian until Chinese immigration works out. So go the fuck ahead. Setup your lawyer make sure he does immigration too because I ain’t doing jack shit for jumping through Chinese immigration hoops. Hukuo is next to impossible to obtain so good fucking luck. Big talk from you fucking clowns, I’ll see it when you actually send funds over. And please don’t group fund this because this isn’t a joint venture. You each need to throw in a business ticket since each of you cocky ass motherfuckers say you’re willing to undertake this project. That’s 2 business tickets right now and all the legal fees for Chinese immigration. One ticket from hehe and one from twdm. Anyone else wanna join in ? I got a few more friend who would like to go too.

Go ahead arrange your lawyer. I’m free in December. You’re going to have to pay for my legal representation too since once again this is all your idea. You wanna play fuckers ? Let’s play internet tough guy.

Blah blah blah... all I'm hearing is more and more excuses.

You keep adding stuff to the agreement that simply show you aren't willing to do it.

twdm was willing to pay for a 1-way business ticket in exchange for your renunciation of CDN citizenship. You agreed but asked him to buy it first. I offered to up the ante to first class, twdm offered to write a check to leave with skinny, you still asked the ticket first as you were worried that we wouldn't be honoring the deal if you go ahead with the process.

I now offer to put the fund in an escrow and get everything down on the paper so both sides have no way to back it out.

You now say you weren't originally a Chinese citizen and needs legal representation to obtain Chinese residency, which you pointed out in your previous post that you came when you were 6, which I'm quite sure you had the nationality at some point in your life.

You keep deviating from the original bet when people call out your bluff. Whether we up the ante or not, you'd simply keep adding things on top. Where does it stop?

I will tell you what, I'd give you one last chance to back down, even going as far as taking the excuse of China immigration being difficult.

Because I'd just let you know... I'm not rich as fuck as you are. But I am certainly in the position to be comfortable spending tens of thousands at will which I think both twdm and Manic are in the same position too for the cause of fulfilling the life-long dream of a fellow RSer.

I'd suggest you to think twice before I agree to call on your latest request.

[Badhobz]

Details of how this agreement will ultimately work out will be decided in a joint party by the lawyers. I aint doing shit without legal representation and since this is your idea, you're going to have to pay for all of it. All i need to do is renounce my Canadian citizenship when and if get my Chinese one.

now manic is involved? so thats 3 business class tickets please. This aint no crowd funding bullshit.

[Mr.HappySilp]

Apple will soon have a decision to make

China warns Apple against ‘unwise and reckless’ support of Hong Kong protesters (https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/10/09/china-warns-apple-unwise-reckless-support-hong-kong-protesters)

Blizzard loses one of their most important on-air personalities, Brian Kibler (http://bmkgaming.com/statement-on-blitzchung/). He quit after the heavy-handed ban.

NBA community event in Shanghai has been canceled (https://www.scmp.com/sport/basketball/article/3031957/nba-cancels-shanghai-brooklyn-nets-event-political-storm-china). No word on whether the upcoming exhibition games will go on or not.

For the small minded people who think "this is just a HK thing"... Like I said, no. China is alienating themselves from the world, little by little. They are going back to 70's style isolation from the rest of the world.

Any company that doesn't stand up to them will feel it from their western customers. If they want that sweet chinese money so bad, fine. I think the goal should be to make it so that's the only money they make. Until they get banned in China for some random reason, then they're fucked LUL

The US have done the same thing too. Just recently they pull out of the Paris climate change because the other countries aren't doing as much as US did, complain and threaten to leave NATO since the other member didn't contribute as much as they did, complain about trade deals with Canada Europe and pretty much everyone in the world. There are more but that's just recently. It might not be as obvious as China but US did a lot of these bullying too. We just kinda of accept it coz it was the US.

[whitev70r]

^^ this is how on the streets of HK, shouting matches become physical fights and beat downs. It just escalates and escalates. This is how HK got to where it is today, no one willing to compromise or back down, everyone putting on their tough face.

Everyone just take a valium ... nothing is going to happen, no lawyers, no escrow, no one is going to buy any 1st class ticket, and no one is going to renounce sh*t. No one will come up with a list of 5 demands. Go back to work, stay off RS for a few days, hug your kids, and enjoy the nice sunny fall weather if you're in 604.

[Hehe]

enough trash talk, organize lawyers and lets do this. tell them to PM me the dates. time for you guys to eat your fucking words. Details of how this agreement will ultimately work out will be decided in a joint party by the lawyers. I aint doing shit without legal representation and since this is your idea, you're going to have to pay for all of it. All i need to do is renounce my Canadian citizenship when and if get my Chinese one.

now manic is involved? so thats 3 business class tickets please. This aint no crowd funding bullshit. I suggest everyone gets lawyers.

PM'd you my number. Find me on Whatsapp. Let's make a RSer dream come true!

It's only a few thousand dollars... no need for everyone to lawyer up. Just one lawyer to set up the agreement and escrow.

I checked the price of business class from YVR-PVG... and it's anywhere between 1900 to 4000 with the median pricec around 3000. 3x3000, I'd offer to round it up to 10k so we make sure we aren't cutting any corners.

[welfare]

So what's a guy gotta do to get a first class ticket to Belize around here? :badpokerface:

[Badhobz]

its done. you guys better all get in touch with HEHE. his lawyer will contact me once all the arrangements are made.

Looks like he's trying to weasel out of the deal now.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/z3uwwapu/

yeah, so fucking hard all of you.

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[buhdeh]

Damn, only $3k to get a dumbass to renounce his Canadian citizenship? That’s pretty hilarious. At least ask for the ugliest balenciaga’s in the catalogue and an anti social social club shirt on top dude.

[Badhobz]

https://i.postimg.cc/DybNC8z4/IMG-0871.png
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[Tim Budong]

The NBA are playing two preseason games in China

The lakers and nets are playing tomorrow in Shanghai and Saturday in Shenzhen

The hype is off the charts for this... If i recall, tis is the first time LBJ is playing a game here

will be interesting because the real losers of all this are the Chinese basketball fans

[Manic!]

So what's a guy gotta do to get a first class ticket to Belize around here? :badpokerface:

One way and you agree not to come back to Canada?

[welfare]

One way and you agree not to come back to Canada?

Oh now I'm definitely staying :lol

[EmperorIS]

Include in the contract that if he doesn't follow through or don't comply to what's needed, he has to pay back 4x the amount of the money. So we either get to deport him or we get some good return if he backs out.

[buhdeh]

Lol you could tell this guy was just going to keep adding conditions until he could back out while pretending he won

[SpeedStars]

Apple will soon have a decision to make

China warns Apple against ‘unwise and reckless’ support of Hong Kong protesters (https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/10/09/china-warns-apple-unwise-reckless-support-hong-kong-protesters)

Blizzard loses one of their most important on-air personalities, Brian Kibler (http://bmkgaming.com/statement-on-blitzchung/). He quit after the heavy-handed ban.

NBA community event in Shanghai has been canceled (https://www.scmp.com/sport/basketball/article/3031957/nba-cancels-shanghai-brooklyn-nets-event-political-storm-china). No word on whether the upcoming exhibition games will go on or not.

For the small minded people who think "this is just a HK thing"... Like I said, no. China is alienating themselves from the world, little by little. They are going back to 70's style isolation from the rest of the world.

Any company that doesn't stand up to them will feel it from their western customers. If they want that sweet chinese money so bad, fine. I think the goal should be to make it so that's the only money they make. Until they get banned in China for some random reason, then they're fucked LUL

I'm actually glad this is happening especially with the potential ban of NBA in China which would make those in China sympathize with the situation in HK. I feel like the protestors should've put more emphasis on how China affects the world as a whole (this would make people think it's less of an HK only thing). Not sure if others have noticed, but the south park episode while exaggerated is pretty correct. Almost all media now has to make adjustments for China in some way if they want a piece of the pie.

[Badhobz]

terms arent even set. im just asking for legal involvement and hes already trying to cop out.

[Hehe]

Include in the contract that if he doesn't follow through or don't comply to what's needed, he has to pay back 4x the amount of the money. So we either get to deport him or we get some good return if he backs out.

That's what I put, about compensation if he doesn't go through in good faith but he ain't buying that.

At this point, I'm not sure how to continue with this. I just don't think he's doing this in a good faith.

Badhobz is making the deal harder and harder for us (he started right off the bat with a "rejection" clause, I guess that's his new ante for us to call).

The potential outcome for us is still the same, he renouncing his citizenship and goes back to China, while his outcome went from business tix for renouncing citizenship to that and plus the entire escrow if he gets "rejected".

And he's only willing to discuss the full detail if we all lawyer up (another expense for us) and isn't willing to lawyer up himself first, but rather only lawyering up once he's contacted by mine. (0 cost for him upfront again).

He keeps adding and adding, just waiting for us to call quits so he can say "oh, it's you guys who didn't follow through with the deal".

But at this point, why would I keep adding potential benefits for him if he isn't willing to offer us any potential rewards in return?

I wanted to keep it simple... we go to a lawyer (any lawyer really... doesn't have to be mine), draft a simple contract of his citizenship renunciation for x amount of money that he'd use for a luxury flight back. And even offered him that if his application gets rejected, we cancel the deal and no hard feelings. But nop... he just keeps making it more and more difficult so he can brag that we aren't willing to call his bluff.

The offer is still on the table for a simple citizenship renunciation for business tix. But if you want to make it more complicated than what's needed, bring something else to the table. My money is burning in my bank account. Let me know.

[twitchyzero]

itt: people with too much fuck you money

what do you prove even if badhobz forfeits his canadian citizenship?

it appears he has the means to leave a day job and simply waltz around on a tourist visa...he only has to visit blaine for gas/parcel run or shanghai for a weekend every 90 days and everything will still be gravvy

[Badhobz]

Umm if you clowns were serious about this (and why wouldnt you be?) then of course there are legal issues we need to address in order for all this to work out.

Ive said before to HEHE, there is no trust on either side of the table. this aint something im going to do just because some internet fucker said so. If you want this to be realty then come prepared to pay something up front. I didn't initiate this deal, i just agreed to the overall concept but the details are not solidified. THATS WHY YOU NEED LAWYERS.

There are tons of what if's

What if i get rejected by China? Im arguing i should still keep the money because I applied in good faith. You say no, so that a point we havent even clarified on just yet.
What if you pull out? maybe you need cop out immediately, is there penalties involved?
Who's paying the legal fees here? your idea (technically its that twdm fucker's idea) but whatever, you went along with it so i think the initiator should pay.
Which lawyer is going to hold the funds in trust?

Its your deal, the onus is on you to initiate. Im under no obligation to start since you guys keep goading me on renounce my citizenship.

you cant just throw a half ass bullshit offer without some real financial backing and actual planning.

[twitchyzero]

would make a lot more sense if this is a HK forum and he's in HK hoarding all your baby formulas

dude already says he grew up in Vancouver and didn't have a say moving here...whoever started this wager is a fucking retard that should just stay off a Canadian forum and join the destructive protests instead of bitching to us foreigners

[320icar]

Dibs on the ‘rati

[Ferra]

wtf is this e-penis contest shit shows

you guys must be bored in life to play around with citizen renunciation and willing to pay tens of thousand of dollars to get some random dude you've never met, and will probably never meet or interact with in person to move away from this country.

If you have too much money donate it to a good cause

[SpeedStars]

You guys should probably meet Badhobz irl at a meet or smth, he's honestly not bad of a person :fulloffuck:. Just shows how the situation in HK is tearing people apart

[xilent]

wtf is this e-penis contest shit shows

you guys must be bored in life to play around with citizen renunciation and willing to pay tens of thousand of dollars to get some random dude you've never met, and will probably never meet or interact with in person to move away from this country.

If you have too much money donate it to a good cause

like me, i need money pls

[welfare]

Not sure if others have noticed, but the south park episode while exaggerated is pretty correct. Almost all media now has to make adjustments for China in some way if they want a piece of the pie.

Man south park is ALWAYS on point with their political episodes.
Stone and Parker are true geniuses :smug:

[bcedhk]

those NBA fans in the background are probably going to be in prison now

[whitev70r]

Told you it wouldn't happen. Both of you are winners of the 2019 RS dumbasses award. And that's pretty hard to do with welfare and Manic! in the running over at the Canadian politics thread.

You both look like friggin idiots.

[EmperorIS]

Would've been funny if it did happen :(

[threezero]

Banning NBA would be a major wake up call the millions of Chinese fan.

I dont think they will suddenly be sympathic to Hong Kong. Like I said before there is alot of underlying tension and misunderstanding between mainlander. Honger is not going to suddenly embrace mainlanders, mainlander will not suddenly forgive all lynching that happened.

But it will start to make them question the whether one should blindly support every single decision from the party. And just general internal struggle between nationalism and personal love for something as harmless as sports.

[Badhobz]

Im still open to it, im just waiting for an actual adult to draft a mutually agreed upon contract so this may proceed with me worrying about HEHEHAHA pulling the rug and saying FOOOLLL YOOUUUUUU trololololol. you have my number, get in touch with twdm and manic and you guys can call me once you have lawyers. Ill lawyer up and then and we can play.

[Hehe]

It's not an e-penis competition, it's about thinking it through with shits you post online.

When twdm posted about the ticket offering, he could have just laughed it off and say something else.

Instead, to show his China supremacy of face, he had to go on with another bluff. We called on him, and he's just trying to keep the bluff going to make things harder and harder.

If he was to really live up to his words (which he originally asked twdm to buy him the ticket first and he'd go to do the renunciation), he'd just take my escrow offer and do it, enough of ifs and buts. Why make things more complicated that it has to? We wanted to offer the proof that we can honor our words by offering a guarantee (an escrow for the fund) that he's going to get what we promised after he did his part.

Instead, he just kept adding and adding conditions... so that we'd be the one to back down first and he can save his face. However, the truth is that it has a totally different bet with the original.

Okok... I think it's enough to talk like a 5yrs old. I'd propose an easy way out for all of us.

@Badhobz
Either you apologize, I make a donation of $500 to a charity of your choice (as long as it's not involved in this China HK thing), or I apologize, and you make a $500 donation to a charity of my choice (again, not involved in the China-HK thing).

I think it's fair since you are rich as fuck and I've got money burning in my account. And face is worth some dough right?

[bcedhk]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/hkincident/permalink/2313650395428826/

Another reason why people are hating on the HKPF.

TL;DR since the video is 28 minutes long.

-Dude gives the one-finger salute to a cop as they are patrolling the streets;
-rustled jimmy cop goes up to the guy and shoulder checks the dude;
-Cop proceeds to swear and yell at the guy saying he doesn't care or protect cockroaches;
-Dude gives his ID to the cop and then another cop walks away with it. the cop now accuses the guy of not showing his ID;
-Lots of back and forth talk and then the cop decides to call backup (noteworthy, there were already 4 cops vs one guy);
-Around a dozen cop shows up with two vans and tackles the guy to the ground.

[Badhobz]

It's not an e-penis competition, it's about thinking it through with shits you post online.

When twdm posted about the ticket offering, he could have just laughed it off and say something else.

Instead, to show his China supremacy of face, he had to go on with another bluff. We called on him, and he's just trying to keep the bluff going to make things harder and harder.

If he was to really live up to his words (which he originally asked twdm to buy him the ticket first and he'd go to do the renunciation), he'd just take my escrow offer and do it, enough of ifs and buts. Why make things more complicated that it has to? We wanted to offer the proof that we can honor our words by offering a guarantee (an escrow for the fund) that he's going to get what we promised after he did his part.

Instead, he just kept adding and adding conditions... so that we'd be the one to back down first and he can save his face. However, the truth is that it has a totally different bet with the original.

Okok... I think it's enough to talk like a 5yrs old. I'd propose an easy way out for all of us.

@Badhobz
Either you apologize, I make a donation of $500 to a charity of your choice (as long as it's not involved in this China HK thing), or I apologize, and you make a $500 donation to a charity of my choice (again, not involved in the China-HK thing).

I think it's fair since you are rich as fuck and I've got money burning in my account. And face is worth some dough right?

i told you, put your money where your mouth is and start phoning lawyers. im still ready to play. Either way you're going to have to pay some money before anyone is going to let you off the hook for your bullshit. TRY ME.
im calling your fucking bluff you asshole. You want this? you bring it. CALL THE FUCKING LAWYERS. Why you giving yourself exit strategies? I dont need them. I rather you spend the first 500 bucks on lawyer fees.

Once again, i didnt start this horseshit. you idiots started this when Twdm made the offer saying that he's willing to pay me a business class ticket if i give up my Canadian citizenship and take on Chinese citizenship. i agreed to this. Im still agreed to this. Those terms have not changed. The crux of this deal is still there, i just want the details sorted. Im asking you to have your council call me so that we can have a transparent legally binding document with agreed upon terms. You wont even do that, so who's bluffing who right now?

Pussy.

Here's my terms for this agreement

- Legal representation by all parties involved. So far thats you, twdm, manic
- Location and time for the meeting of earliest convenience to all parties
- For each of you (hehe/twdm/manic) deposit the equivalent sum of 1 business class ticket from YVR to Shanghai (so that means there should be something like 10-15g's in that account) to be released when immigration lawyer receives word that its a green light for me to move back.
- Have a designated lawyer put that fund in escrow not allowing any of the parties to touch said amount until released contractually
- Figure out exactly what the fuck is involved in immigrating to China and legal fees involved. Since this is your fucking idea, im thinking you guys are going to have to pay for this shit. I dont see why I have to pay for something im not actually interested in doing, but only doing out of obligation to fulfill my part of the contract (which is to give up my Canadian citizenship)
- Figure out a contingency as to what we are going to do if my application for citizenship is rejected. Im saying since im participating in good faith i should keep the money, but whatever that up for negotiation when we all sit down.
- Figure out who's going to pay for all these legal fees involved in this shit. Just to make sure everyone is honest here.

Anything else? the first step to all of this begins with one of you clowns start calling a lawyer and having them contact me.

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Should we change the thread title to "Badhobz extradition protests?" :troll:

[buhdeh]

Classic thread in the making

[HonestTea]

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[punkwax]

Dibs on the ‘rati

Dibs on his place. Or both if he buys in Burnaby too :high:

[eclipseman]

Why don't you guys just scrap it out and be done with it? I'm down to watch a sanctioned amateur MMA fight.

[Hehe]

i told you, put your money where your mouth is and start phoning lawyers. im still ready to play. Either way you're going to have to pay some money before anyone is going to let you off the hook for your bullshit. TRY ME.
im calling your fucking bluff you asshole. You want this? you bring it. CALL THE FUCKING LAWYERS. Why you giving yourself exit strategies? I dont need them. I rather you spend the first 500 bucks on lawyer fees.

Once again, i didnt start this horseshit. you idiots started this when Twdm made the offer saying that he's willing to pay me a business class ticket if i give up my Canadian citizenship and take on Chinese citizenship. i agreed to this. Im still agreed to this. Those terms have not changed. The crux of this deal is still there, i just want the details sorted. Im asking you to have your council call me so that we can have a transparent legally binding document with agreed upon terms. You wont even do that, so who's bluffing who right now?

Pussy.

Here's my terms for this agreement

- Legal representation by all parties involved. So far thats you, twdm, manic
- Location and time for the meeting of earliest convenience to all parties
- For each of you (hehe/twdm/manic) deposit the equivalent sum of 1 business class ticket from YVR to Shanghai (so that means there should be something like 10-15g's in that account) to be released when immigration lawyer receives word that its a green light for me to move back.
- Have a designated lawyer put that fund in escrow not allowing any of the parties to touch said amount until released contractually
- Figure out exactly what the fuck is involved in immigrating to China and legal fees involved. Since this is your fucking idea, im thinking you guys are going to have to pay for this shit. I dont see why I have to pay for something im not actually interested in doing, but only doing out of obligation to fulfill my part of the contract (which is to give up my Canadian citizenship)
- Figure out a contingency as to what we are going to do if my application for citizenship is rejected. Im saying since im participating in good faith i should keep the money, but whatever that up for negotiation when we all sit down.
- Figure out who's going to pay for all these legal fees involved in this shit. Just to make sure everyone is honest here.

Anything else? the first step to all of this begins with one of you clowns start calling a lawyer and having them contact me.

Wanna play hardball huh? Ok. I think I gave you enough chance.

A few things we have to get clear here.

Were you or were you not a Chinese citizen at any point in your life? From your previous post, you came here at age of 6. Thus, you should have been a Chinese citizen at a certain point in life until you obtained your Canadian citizenship and applied visa to enter China (hence for them to cut your passport as a proof and record of revocation of citizenship).

Because the application of resuming citizenship is different than immigrating. We'd have to get it clear there.

What is your offering in the case of any point in the process, you decide to not go ahead with the process? I'd think it's only fair for us to get some compensation for our trouble if you decide to pull out last minute. Would you agree to escrow whatever amount we put up for the ticket escrow as collateral, thus in case that you decide not to go forward, we'd be fairly compensated (get our money back, and 1x as a reward)

Regarding the cost involved, I don't know about the China portion, but to renounce CDN citizenship, it's $100. I'm ok to cover it too, along with any potential cost on the Chinese aside, again, assuming you are willing to put up the twice the amount of money for collateral (1x to cover the expenses I paid, another 1x as penalty) to pay us back in case you decide to not go forward.

As far as contingency goes, we don't need anything really. Just let me pick a lawyer so I can be sure the whole process goes as smooth as possible. And again, whatever they quote to have the process done, I'd cover it and you put whatever that amount x2 as collateral in case you decide to not cooperate while the lawyer is trying to do his/her job.

Last, but not least, you have to be doing this willingly and knowingly of full of its consequences and that you, and anyone related to you to forfeit any right to pursue us in court should anything not go as you "thought". Because you keep saying "i'm not doing this because I want to"... and I don't want some crazy dude/bitch to come after me saying that we pushed you into taking this deal.

So, let me know... and I'd suggest you to start looking for a good lawyer to finalize our deal. This is your cost though... I have mine and going to pay my own legal cost. And you really wouldn't want someone on my payroll to be your rep anyway.

Don't come to me with excuses that why you should put money as collateral... blah blah blah... you are rich as fuck remember? 15-20k should be peanuts to you. We peasants are fighting the goliath here.

Don't pussy out on me ok? Look forward to meeting you.

[Badhobz]

big talk, you have my number. call it.

no point in agreeing to terms on here. let the lawyers figure it out. Once everything is agreed upon, we can publish it jointly. Dont forget to get twdm and manic too.

[Hehe]

big talk, you have my number. call it.

no point in agreeing to terms on here. let the lawyers figure it out.

You clearly never done any work with a lawyer have you?

Before you go to the lawyers, you need to have a clear list of things.

I'm just trying to clarify everything before submitting my request to him and he'd know what to do. These are going to be questions that he's going to ask me. I'm just saving us time here.

And I'd appreciate some answer before any more trash talk.

[Badhobz]

he just needs to call me with a simple phrase

my client is seeking your agreement to meet in a bi party meeting regarding the terms and conditions of the purposed agreement. When are you free?

got it? stop making excuses you lame fuck.

[SkunkWorks]

See ya. Don't let the door hit you on the way out :)

[StylinRed]

You've got to remember you're dealing with racists, so if they can get that foreigner out of here they'll do it, even if it hurts their pocketbook

Anyone who's fine with the old angry racist white guy motto of "go back where you came from" isn't going to be reasonable, you cunts aren't Canadian at all

[Hehe]

he just needs to call me with a simple phrase

my client is seeking your agreement to meet in a bi party meeting regarding the terms and conditions of the purposed agreement. When are you free?

got it? stop making excuses you lame fuck.

You keep avoiding answering my questions that I need answers before I can give my lawyer a call to tell him what to do in all the details.

And no, that's not how it works. He's going to send you a certified letter detailing everything and asking you for your reply and the time that he can expect a reply, but I'd have to pay him $$$ for his trouble. And if you just hang up/turn down on him, that's still $$$ that I have to pay.

I'm not trying to cheapen out on the deal, but I want to get my $$$ worth. I know EXACTLY how lawyers work. Used to work in an office and dealt with legal stuff daily. You can call your lawyer and see if what I'm saying is true but ultimately, you'd have to answer those questions anyway in order for us to process this whole ordeal.

And if you are already trying to waste as much time now without a lawyer, I can't imagine what it would be once I lawyer up. Just trying to avoid my lawyer to charge me for unnecessary time.

[Badhobz]

You keep avoiding answering my questions that I need answers before I can give my lawyer a call to tell him what to do in all the details.

And no, that's not how it works. He's going to send you a certified letter detailing everything and asking you for your reply and the time that he can expect a reply, but I'd have to pay him $$$ for his trouble. And if you just hang up/turn down on him, that's still $$$ that I have to pay.

I'm not trying to cheapen out on the deal, but I want to get my $$$ worth. I know EXACTLY how lawyers work. Used to work in an office and dealt with legal stuff daily. You can call your lawyer and see if what I'm saying is true but ultimately, you'd have to answer those questions anyway in order for us to process this whole ordeal.

And if you are already trying to waste as much time now without a lawyer, I can't imagine what it would be once I lawyer up. Just trying to avoid my lawyer to charge me for unnecessary time.

FailFishFailFishFailFish
Seriously? this is the worse weaseling i've ever seen. HAVE YOUR LAWYER CALL ME TO ARRANGE A MEETING. i dont know how i can make it simpler for you. I temporarily agree to whatever terms you purposed until we have a formal legal sit down with council to review said terms and standards.

Happy? tell him/her to give me a call. You better go get your bum buddies twdm and manic too

[GGnoRE]

chill out bros... i don't even think its that simple to acquire chinese citizenship anyway

"Foreign nationals who once held Chinese nationality may apply for restoration of Chinese nationality if they have legitimate reasons; those whose applications for restoration of Chinese nationality have been approved shall not retain foreign nationality. (China 1980, Art. 13)"

and i don't think settling an argument over an internet forum counts as a legitimate reason lmao

[highfive]

crazy how HK talk went to this? lol

You guys need to grow the fuck up and not throw money around like that. Just because your online ego got hurt, it doesn't justify throwing away good money like that.

Pick a place, fight each other or fuck each other or blow each other. Donate the money and call it a day.

[Badhobz]

hence immigration lawyer needed.

[Hehe]

Ok. I’m done. They were a few yes/no questions.

You could have replied me with less time you spent typing all that out.

You have my number. Have your lawyer call me. I’d be glad to set everything up accordingly.

[Badhobz]

so you pussying out? you want me to call you to initiate something that you guys are asking me to do?

GG pansy ass fucker. Retract your statements immediately.

[GGnoRE]

man why the hell you guys get so upset over each other's opinions anyway... living in a democratic society i fully accept that there are going to be people who prefer to live under sharia or communism or fascism or whatever the fuck in between. Thats the beauty of where we live, you voice for what you like and i voice for mine. No need for thought police

[Badhobz]

i didnt throw the first punch here. They (twdm) offered a proposition. I took them up on it. Now it looks like hehe is out, so that just leaves the twdm guy and manic.

This is a great analogy for the whole HK movement. Most of these "kids" are just a bunch of fucking blow hard's. when push comes to shove, they wont do anything. when you actually want them to sacrifice their own financial securities and physical safety they'll disappear like a fart in the wind. Say what you will about us mainlanders, we are FUCKING CRAZY and will take it to the ends of the earth. Very much like the Japanese in that sense.

[EmperorIS]

When keeping it real goes wrong

[jasonturbo]

Say what you will about us mainlanders, we are FUCKING CRAZY

http://www.angryasianman.com/images/angry/pee01.jpg

Edit: This thread attracting some outside attention, number of guests (27) > number of members (23) when I posted this.

[hi-revs]

This is a great analogy for the whole HK movement. Most of these "kids" are just a bunch of fucking blow hard's. when push comes to shove, they wont do anything. when you actually want them to sacrifice their own financial securities and physical safety they'll disappear like a fart in the wind. Say what you will about us mainlanders, we are FUCKING CRAZY and will take it to the ends of the earth. Very much like the Japanese in that sense.


You're doing what CCP is doing too aren't u? Playing the role of a hard ass, trying to stand your ground, hoping for the other party to back down?
Mainlanders are "crazy" because they think they can bring the Xi Jinping dictatorship mentality here. Sorta what you're doing hobz.

[SnK1800]

a few moments later.... is Badhobz in China yet?

[BIC_BAWS]

@Badhobz
Either you apologize, I make a donation of $500 to a charity of your choice (as long as it's not involved in this China HK thing), or I apologize, and you make a $500 donation to a charity of my choice (again, not involved in the China-HK thing).

Guess you should start drafting up an apology, @Badhobz could probably use a tax write-off.



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[Mikoyan]

Too early for Thread of the Year?

[Hehe]

Guess you should start drafting up an apology, @Badhobz could probably use a tax write-off.



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My apology is cheap. All I’m asking is $500 in donations and he can shut my peasant mouth.

I offered $500 in donations for his. But he cares his face more than $500 or even his cdn citizenship.

[SkinnyPupp]

You've got to remember you're dealing with racists, so if they can get that foreigner out of here they'll do it, even if it hurts their pocketbook

Anyone who's fine with the old angry racist white guy motto of "go back where you came from" isn't going to be reasonable, you cunts aren't Canadian at all
The way I see it, they are just calling out someone who hasn't made a single good faith post in this thread since it started. Like I said at the very beginning, I was pretty sure he was simply a troll. I expect most intelligent "non pro-HK" Canadians to be more like threezero or ulic. Maybe they lack sympathy and some perspective, but mostly they are just pragmatic about the whole thing, and that's how they come across when they state their opinions.

This clown though... Come on. Just pure trash posts. There's no way in a million years a Canadian would renounce their citizenship to become a mainlander. Fuck right off with that. You're not fooling anyone badhobz. You lost from the beginning with this little stunt. Just apologize, donate the $500 to a good cause, and let's all move on.

[Obsideon]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/T9TWQiHtuzWSs/source.gif

[Hehe]

so you pussying out? you want me to call you to initiate something that you guys are asking me to do?

GG pansy ass fucker. Retract your statements immediately.

No, I’m not pussying out. I’m just tired.

Twmd offered you a tix, you ask for a proof. When he agreed to send skinny a check, you ask for more valid proof. I offered you an escrow guarantee, you ask for a whole lawyer thing. I offered you to start working on the draft with a few questions, you ask to speak with my lawyer first.

Where does it end? Whenever we give you what you ask for, you don’t simply agree, just a promise of a conditional ok by keep asking more stuff.

Seriously, stop and grow the fuck up. There are people who you can’t mess with your way of doing things. We aren’t better or worse than you. Just your way doesn’t work on us.

[Badhobz]

Pussy.

[bobbinka]

Failure to complete the terms of the agreement should just result in the termination of the contract and the funds returned to the original parties. The funds are meant for the ticket, which is conditional on him getting his Chinese citizenship. It makes no sense that he be entitled to anything when he can sabotage his own application (or the subsequent process).

Badhobz is just trying to waste people's time and money. Even if he goes so far to make the application, there is no guarantee he will act in good faith later on, or for anyone to ensure he does so.

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Too early for Thread of the Year?

Depends on the outcome?

[Badhobz]

You're doing what CCP is doing too aren't u? Playing the role of a hard ass, trying to stand your ground, hoping for the other party to back down?
Mainlanders are "crazy" because they think they can bring the Xi Jinping dictatorship mentality here. Sorta what you're doing hobz.

I’m just standing my ground and calling out the bullshit. This has nothing to do with my love for China or the shit happening in HK. It’s literally between these 3 fuckers who are calling me out but now too pussy to continue while throwing every excuse in the book as to why they aren’t committing.

[320icar]

Will everyone in this thread STFU. I come in here for actual updates (both sides)

[Badhobz]

Hong Kong still a shit hole thanks to protestors. That is all.

[SkinnyPupp]

Hong Kong still a shit hole thanks to protestors. That is all.
Thanked for finally giving up, failed for the idiotic remark SeemsGood

[Badhobz]

Giving up what ?

[SkinnyPupp]

OK SeemsGood

[Bouncing Bettys]

The NBA are playing two preseason games in China

The lakers and nets are playing tomorrow in Shanghai and Saturday in Shenzhen

The hype is off the charts for this... If i recall, tis is the first time LBJ is playing a game here

will be interesting because the real losers of all this are the Chinese basketball fans
https://twitter.com/JonSchweppe/status/1182076217123586048

[SkinnyPupp]

Mainland protester holds lighter up to China flag while wearing a Rockets jersey, gets disappear'd (https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3032044/chinese-houston-rockets-fan-who-taunted-police-threat-burn)

https://i.imgur.com/p6FJznl.png

[BIC_BAWS]

The funds are meant for the ticket, which is conditional on him getting his Chinese citizenship. It makes no sense that he be entitled to anything when he can sabotage his own application (or the subsequent process).


I mean this is what the immigration lawyer is for...

[bobbinka]

I mean this is what the immigration lawyer is for...

FailFish

A lawyer only does what is requested and based on the information provided. Having a lawyer does not mean someone will answer questions honestly or provide the appropriate documentation. Anyone, good or bad, honest or liars, can have a lawyer.

How exactly would you even know (and then prove) if he deliberately answered a question unfavorably or falsified a statement that would result in his application being rejected?

[Hehe]

I’m just standing my ground and calling out the bullshit. This has nothing to do with my love for China or the shit happening in HK. It’s literally between these 3 fuckers who are calling me out but now too pussy to continue while throwing every excuse in the book as to why they aren’t committing.

I'm not sure this all out to win a face thing.

You have to understand... our reward vs. your reward and our cost vs. your cost. Our reward is to see you renounce your citizenship to prove a point. Your CDN citizenship, if we were to put a value on it, let's say 100G since that's probably the cheapest way for one to get a PR by investing in the middle of nowhere.

Our cost is what? 3-7k depending on person? WTF is that? Manic IIRC drives a fucking Audi R8, he probably spends that much on booze/smoke/gas a week. Twmd, I don't know, but really, if he's at least over 30yrs old, a few grand shouldn't make his life difficult in any way. As for me? On any given day, that's the swing of my stock portfolio and if I don't feel a thing seeing 3-7k up and down every day, wtf am I going to feel about spending that to prove a good point.

So, there's no way you coming out of this ahead. Assuming we both follow through, our costs is 10-15k in total for a satisfaction that's worth more than 100k. While you spent something that costs 100k+all the associated cost by moving back for what? business class tix?

You won't be able to intimidate us down. Our reward is so much greater than our cost, and we'd do everything within our power to ensure this goes through.

Think about it... really... what would be a reason for us to back out now? I can't think of any.

[Hehe]

Giving up what ? I won asshole. I’m going to force him to apologize on top of winning this bullshit game.

You can’t win. My pocket might not be as deep as yours. But it’s enough for me to follow through. Blowing a few grand for a fuck yeah is something I can afford.

Enough of conditions. Do it like a man or go cry like a pussy.

[Badhobz]

you have my number, call it.

Resume regularly scheduled programming from skinny.

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[radioman]

I've never seen someone move goal posts so many times in the span of 24 hrs. Thread of the year.

[twdm]

Giving up what ? I won asshole. I’m going to force him to apologize on top of winning this bullshit game.

I'm just glad I was able to provide entertainment for the cost of $4k cad. But seriously, am I supposed to find you a wife, buy you a house in China and find you a job?

All I offered was to buy you a business class ticket back if you renounced for Canadian citizenship for Chinese.

https://i.imgur.com/wCdBJs7_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Offer still stands. Money is ready.

[twdm]

My nationality is Canadian. There is no restoration of Chinese nationality. Hence the lawyers needed for this whole process. What you pussying out again ? Why don’t you want lawyers involved.

You said you left when you were young meaning you had chinese nationality to begin with. If you didnt renounce it then it's even simpler. All you have to do is renounce your canadian citizenship.

https://www.immd.gov.hk/eng/services/chinese_nationality/Application_for_Restoration_of_Chinese_Nationality .html

[SkinnyPupp]

Apple will soon have a decision to make

China warns Apple against ‘unwise and reckless’ support of Hong Kong protesters (https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/10/09/china-warns-apple-unwise-reckless-support-hong-kong-protesters)


Apple has decided:

Apple removes police-tracking app used in Hong Kong protests from its app store (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protests-apple/apple-removes-police-tracking-app-used-in-hong-kong-protests-from-its-app-store-idUSKBN1WP09U)

[Badhobz]

China doesnt have dual citizenship. if you leave for Canada, its automatically lost. Your Hukou is gone, so you gotta start fresh. Thats why this ill hatched scheme of yours will never really work. once you leave its really hard to go back. But im not an immigration lawyer and i doubt anyone here is either so its better to ask a professional.

[SnK1800]

Flight details for the reference in case its needed, Vancouver to Xinjiang:

https://www.expedia.ca/Destinations-In-Xinjiang.d6048443.Flight-Destinations

[SkinnyPupp]

China doesnt have dual citizenship. if you leave for Canada, its automatically lost. Your Hukou is gone, so you gotta start fresh. Thats why this ill hatched scheme of yours will never really work. once you leave its really hard to go back. But im not an immigration lawyer and i doubt anyone here is either so its better to ask a professional.
Honestly I think it wouldn't be too hard if you tell them you want to contribute to their wonderful society and be a good Party follower. You may need to think of some way to show them that you are wealthy (hint, hint)

Rule of law is very flexible in china, nothing is really in black and white, unless it goes against the Party. If something favours them, they're a lot more flexible.

But that will take a lot of money, and I know you're not going to put up your own money to go along with this stunt, so let's all just drop it

[StylinRed]

Apple has decided:

Apple removes police-tracking app used in Hong Kong protests from its app store (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protests-apple/apple-removes-police-tracking-app-used-in-hong-kong-protests-from-its-app-store-idUSKBN1WP09U)

I thought they brought it back, did they remove it again?


Not sure if this is a legit redbull Taiwan ad, but that's what ppl are saying

https://youtu.be/2erCWgi9mAA

Red Bull hates China tho so no surprise

[GS8]

WRONG

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrlJum5u4uE

Some music to complement your cuisine?

[RiceIntegraRS]

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-0302-application-renounce-canadian-citizenship-subsection-9-1.html

What are the requirements?
To be eligible to renounce your Canadian citizenship, you must:

1. be a Canadian citizen;
2. prove that you are or that you will become a citizen of a country other than Canada if your application to renounce is approved;
3. not live in Canada;
4. be at least 18 years old;
5. not be a threat to Canada’s security or part of a pattern of criminal activity; and
understand the significance of renouncing your Canadian citizenship.

Looks like there could be problems with #2 & #3. But who are we kidding. no one actually thinks Badhobz would of went through with this. But seems to me everyone believes Hehe, twdm, and Manic would of put up the money "if" he did.

[Badhobz]

I don’t know of anyone who’s actually been able to restore their citizenship in China after leaving. That’s why I’m willing to go through this whole dog and pony show. I don’t think it can actually be done.

[SkinnyPupp]

no one actually thinks Badhobz would of went through with this. But seems to me everyone believes Hehe, twdm, and Manic would of put up the money "if" he did.
For them it's a bit of money. For this clown, it's literally ruining his life. LUL

Dude says he's willing to renounce citizenship of one of the greatest countries on earth, in order to prove loyalty to a shitty government that he already said he doesn't like (https://www.revscene.net/forums/716196-hong-kong-extradition-protests-68.html#post8962147). 4Head

All to "win" an internet argument EleGiggle

[threezero]

Honestly I think it wouldn't be too hard if you tell them you want to contribute to their wonderful society and be a good Party follower. You may need to think of some way to show them that you are wealthy (hint, hint)

Rule of law is very flexible in china, nothing is really in black and white, unless it goes against the Party. If something favours them, they're a lot more flexible.

But that will take a lot of money, and I know you're not going to put up your own money to go along with this stunt, so let's all just drop it

Not it is definitely not as easy as that lol

Dr. Henry Bethune a Canadian communist who died in China after decade of work saving the lives of Chinese people. Not qualify for Chinese passport

Sidney Rittenberg the high senior member of CCP and once a close adviser of Mao.
Did not qualify for a Chinese passport.

Sorry badhobz did jack shit for the party compare to these guys. He is not getting his Chinese citizenship back.

Like badhoz said, there has not been a single case of of people successfully getting their Chinese citizenship back after renouncing it.

China is anti-immigration, I mean can you not tell from its people's crazy nationalism

[JD¹³]

https://i.imgur.com/2Max3yq.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

Not it is definitely not as easy as that lol

Dr. Henry Bethune a Canadian communist who died in China after decade of work saving the lives of Chinese people. Not qualify for Chinese passport

Sidney Rittenberg the high senior member of CCP and once a close adviser of Mao.
Did not qualify for a Chinese passport.

Sorry badhobz did jack shit for the party compare to these guys. He is not getting his Chinese citizenship back.

Like badhoz said, there has not been a single case of of people successfully getting their Chinese citizenship back after renouncing it.

China is anti-immigration, I mean can you not tell from its people's crazy nationalism
Sorry, I didn't know badhobz was white

[Badhobz]

That was pretty much what I was hedging my bets on. Plus even for some strange reason it did go through I’d just come right back and use my American citizenship since you can’t even give that up. I’d figure a few thousand dollars of legal fees for each of these fuckers would teach them a good lesson to not run their fucking mouths.

Oh well.

Oh never mind I guess you can renounce your American citizenship too. Shit is all complicated.

[threezero]

That was pretty much what I was hedging my bets on. Plus even for some strange reason it did go through I’d just come right back and use my American citizenship since you can’t even give that up. I’d figure a few thousand dollars of legal fees for each of these fuckers would each them a good lesson to not run their fucking mouths.

Oh well.

How many god damn citizenship do you have lol.

[Badhobz]

2. Dual citizen. Married an American.

[SkinnyPupp]

That was pretty much what I was hedging my bets on. Plus even for some strange reason it did go through I’d just come right back and use my American citizenship since you can’t even give that up. I’d figure a few thousand dollars of legal fees for each of these fuckers would each them a good lesson to not run their fucking mouths.

Oh well.

Oh never mind I guess you can renounce your American citizenship too. Shit is all complicated.
So now that you admit you never planned on going along with it, and had a "trick" up your sleeve to prevent it from possibly happening, will you donate $500 to a charity?

[Badhobz]

Trick? I’m still willing to go along with it. It’s not my fault they don’t do their research and offer scenarios that are highly improbable .

[bobbinka]

:seriously:

[HonestTea]

https://i.imgur.com/2Max3yq.jpg

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

[westopher]

Somebody PM me to come back in here once someone either wastes 20k or someone moves across the world please.

[Obsideon]

I was using this thread to somewhat keep up on the current events of this story but it went way outta left field.

[Badhobz]

Skinny can clean it up and just delete the last few pages

[hi-revs]

Trick? I’m still willing to go along with it. It’s not my fault they don’t do their research and offer scenarios that are highly improbable . I just want some consequences for their stupid ass ranting and raving.


This guy...
What a total CUNT!

[bobbinka]

It's like the CCP, they know they're not fooling anyone, but they keep fronting anyway.

[Badhobz]

Worked against apple didn’t it ? How about blizzard ? Shit even trump won’t make a stink about this whole mess. Money talks.

[threezero]

Worked against apple didn’t it ? How about blizzard ? Shit even trump won’t make a stink about this whole mess. Money talks.

More like money can silence things. This should not be how the world is run.

The Chinese citizen might not truly understand what is freedom of speech. But we do. Protecting that is important even if you don’t agree with the Hong Kong protest and its shenanigans. You can defend China but still recognize its shortcoming

What happen to loving your home country AND your adopted one? Freedom of speech, the real freedom of speech not the version presented by China is one of the fundamental of Canadian society. A bedrock of the country.

[buhdeh]

So now that you admit you never planned on going along with it, and had a "trick" up your sleeve to prevent it from possibly happening, will you donate $500 to a charity?

"I was negotiating in good faith"

[Hehe]

Worked against apple didn’t it ? How about blizzard ? Shit even trump won’t make a stink about this whole mess. Money talks.

Lol... I love how you now openly admit you weren't acting in good faith from the beginning and brag it like it's something to be proud with.

This "money talks" mentality is what deteriorating China... where nothing but money matters.

If you really started living in Canada at the age of 6 and grew up to have this mentality... I pity you... I can't imagine what you must have gone through to be growing up in Canada and have NONE of the Canadian value whatsoever. And what your social circle must be... poor guy...

[StylinRed]

What happen to loving your home country AND your adopted one? Freedom of speech, the real freedom of speech not the version presented by China is one of the fundamental of Canadian society. A bedrock of the country.

Ehhhhh, not exactly, there are limits, and the charter has the notwithstanding clause

[threezero]

Ehhhhh, not exactly, there are limits, and the charter has the notwithstanding clause

Speaking out against the establishment is not one. Hate speech is not allow but you are allow to speak out on matter such as this, even if it's unpopular. Political satire is allow last time I checked. Just turn on the TV and count how many times that anti-trudeau ad airs.

[Badhobz]

Lol... I love how you now openly admit you weren't acting in good faith from the beginning and brag it like it's something to be proud with.

This "money talks" mentality is what deteriorating China... where nothing but money matters.

If you really started living in Canada at the age of 6 and grew up to have this mentality... I pity you... I can't imagine what you must have gone through to be growing up in Canada and have NONE of the Canadian value whatsoever. And what your social circle must be... poor guy...

Good faith in my case is the willingness to sign any contractual obligation to renounce my Canadian citizenship upon our agreed terms. Not my fault if China doesn’t want me. I don’t control that aspect of the deal.

Money talks is what you are actually seeing in action right now. You can pretend it’s not the case but the evidence is right in front of you. Good or bad, that’s the reality.

[yray]

badhobz, were you born in Canada or china?

[Badhobz]

More like money can silence things. This should not be how the world is run.

The Chinese citizen might not truly understand what is freedom of speech. But we do. Protecting that is important even if you don’t agree with the Hong Kong protest and its shenanigans. You can defend China but still recognize its shortcoming

What happen to loving your home country AND your adopted one? Freedom of speech, the real freedom of speech not the version presented by China is one of the fundamental of Canadian society. A bedrock of the country.

I didn’t say I agree with it. I’m just saying that’s what’s happening.

[Hehe]

Good faith in my case is the willingness to sign any contractual obligation to renounce my Canadian citizenship upon our agreed terms. Not my fault if China doesn’t want me. I don’t control that aspect of the deal.

Money talks is what you are actually seeing in action right now. You can pretend it’s not the case but the evidence is right in front of you. Good or bad, that’s the reality.

Go on... keep on going...

Then google what's the legal definition of "good faith" when it comes to legal terms and get back to me.

I'd give you a snipet:

"Honesty; a sincere intention to deal fairly with others.

Good faith is an abstract and comprehensive term that encompasses a sincere belief or motive without any malice or the desire to defraud others. It derives from the translation of the Latin term bona fide, and courts use the two terms interchangeably."

Seriously... you keep using those words... but I don't think you understand what those words mean

[Badhobz]

badhobz, were you born in Canada or china?

Born in China man.

[Badhobz]

Go on... keep on going...

Then google what's the legal definition of "good faith" when it comes to legal terms and get back to me.

I'd give you a snipet:

"Honesty; a sincere intention to deal fairly with others.

Good faith is an abstract and comprehensive term that encompasses a sincere belief or motive without any malice or the desire to defraud others. It derives from the translation of the Latin term bona fide, and courts use the two terms interchangeably."


“To negotiate in good faith, parties must desire to reach agreement and commit to meeting deal terms.”

So did I intend on signing away my citizenship ? Yes I did. How is that not good faith?

[Hehe]

“To negotiate in good faith, parties must desire to reach agreement and commit to meeting deal terms.”

So did I intend on signing away my citizenship ? Yes I did. How is that not good faith?

Do you even read English?

"Good faith is an abstract and comprehensive term that encompasses a sincere belief or motive without any malice or the desire to defraud others"

If your original intention was that you knowingly added the "rejection" clause because you knew you were going to be rejected and thus you can benefit from it, that's trying to defraud someone...

That was not the original part of the deal. You added that clause specifically when I messaged you. And you have the audacity to say you were doing in good faith.

Seriously, stop... you are only making a joke out of yourself by keep trying to explain yourself to "win" this.

If you are doing this for the sake of our entertainment... ok... but seriously... it's not getting any better.

[yray]

https://m.51.ca/info/news/canada/2019-04/756087.html

so this reinstatement of chinese citizenship will take 2 years, badhobz can start at the chinese embassy :lol

[Badhobz]

I’m not a lawyer

[GS8]

Born in China man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Bc6UCeYZO0

Can I call you Liu Kang?

I clearly have nothing to contribute other than my knowledge of wtf 90s music :alone:

[Badhobz]

Do you even read English?

"Good faith is an abstract and comprehensive term that encompasses a sincere belief or motive without any malice or the desire to defraud others"

If your original intention was that you knowingly added the "rejection" clause because you knew you were going to be rejected and thus you can benefit from it, that's trying to defraud someone...

That was not the original part of the deal. You added that clause specifically when I messaged you. And you have the audacity to say you were doing in good faith.

Seriously, stop... you are only making a joke out of yourself by keep trying to explain yourself to "win" this.

If you are doing this for the sake of our entertainment... ok... but seriously... it's not getting any better.

The deal was still being negotiated. That’s why I wanted all the lawyers to fill out the details of the contract. Nothing is binding until everyone signs.

Anyways the whole thing is moot now. I’m acting in bad faith cuz I’m trying to waste your money on legal fees and your just trolling me with zero intention of following through with this action.

[hi-revs]

Badhobz- just stfu already. You're a fucking idiot; right from the beginning.

[Badhobz]

Well whatever

[punkwax]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/xT5LMqhwZ9amgUTwKk/giphy.gif

[BIC_BAWS]

I mean he's not wrong. Let's put this in other terms. Let's say you looked a house to buy from a friend. No agents initially, since you're just looking and testing the waters.

Then as the deal progresses, it gets serious, agents are brought into negotiate the terms for each party. Now clauses or subjects are being brought up like inspections. Is that bad faith? No. Cause in the begining neither party knows if they're serious.

How would have BadHobz acted in bad faith if the contract wasn't even signed? Y'all just a bunch of joe blows on the internet saying random shit. You want it to be serious? Then iron out the details and get a legally binding agreement.

Having an American citizenship nor knowing that he wouldn't qualify for Chinese citizenship, doesn't constitute as negotiating in bad faith. This whole thing was about his Canadian citizenship, what the fuck does an American citizenship have to do with it? Furthermore, since it is extremely difficult to get Chinese citizenship, how would he be an actor of bad faith if that fact is public knowledge.

It's on the parties to know their own shit or hire someone who knows their shit. If you buy an E46 M3, they're not going to tell you that the generation of 3 series has subframe issues. That's something you got to do research on yourself. What makes you think that it constitutes bad faith? Bad faith is actively lying about something. Withholding information that is common knowledge, isn't bad faith.

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[JDM GTO]

I feel poor reading the last 5 pages.

[ilovebacon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS7efsOpf2s

Trump probably used this to help hongkonger?

[SkinnyPupp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS7efsOpf2s

Trump probably used this to help hongkonger?
A year ago?

[ilovebacon]

this was posted near the end of Sept of 2019. Not sure why its on youtube recommendation lol

[SkinnyPupp]

But then there's footage like this, of "protesters" who made their way into stations, using the same flashlights the cops always use, and carrying what appears to be pepper spray

https://twitter.com/FreedomHK6/status/1181596546585858053

https://twitter.com/WBYeats1865/status/1181607976324349952

Still not convinced, but I definitely wouldn't' dismiss it as easily as I would when the stories first started coming. Or maybe these are protesters dressed as police, dressed as protesters. Or there are some police who are actually protesters. There is SO MUCH shitty "fake news" that you have to be really careful.

Update on this situation. MTR confirmed (https://sg.news.yahoo.com/hong-kong-mtr-corporation-confirms-131936118.html) that these were police officers dressed up as protesters, threatening citizens with pepper spray while shining flashlights in their faces and cursing at them from within closed MTR gates. There was no mention of why they were dressed that way.

About an hour later, the station windows were smashed from the inside

Allegedly...

https://twitter.com/the852spirit/status/1181759510530138112

[welfare]

Do you even read English?

"Good faith is an abstract and comprehensive term that encompasses a sincere belief or motive without any malice or the desire to defraud others"


Thinking maybe there was something lost in translation, i tried to find the definition of "good faith" in the Chinese dictionary.
This is what i found:
http://www.bahrnoproducts.com/lollipopHelloSucker.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

This fucker again. This time allegedly arresting 3 teens for unlawful assembly

https://twitter.com/fktws/status/1182199479769763841

He's going to get himself or someone else killed. They have to get him off the street.

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/thetimeusedtobe/status/1182292557595721730

[Mr.HappySilp]

This fucker again. This time allegedly arresting 3 teens for unlawful assembly

https://twitter.com/fktws/status/1182199479769763841

He's going to get himself or someone else killed. They have to get him off the street.

So what if I am out with 3 or more friends going to the mall/dinner/hangout/sing K etc etc or even just playing a game of basketball in a public basketball court does that count as unlwaful assembly?

If that's the case all the c-lais who goes shopping together or go the school to pick up their kids together should get arrested then and anyone seeing with three or more people should also get arrested as well.

[dachinesedude]

hard to say if he did this to some random 3 girls walking on the street but given his past incidents, the girls probably cussed him out and he got triggered and power tripped

[twdm]

You do have a choice. You can renounce your Canadian citizenship and reclaim your Chinese love and pride. Hell, I'll buy you a one way business class ticket to China to help you save expenses.

Don't tell me with this deal of a lifetime, you're going to leave your beloved homeland hanging?

Dawg. Let me quote you the original offer.

When you reclaim chinese citizenship, you must renounce ALL citizenships. It says so on the form. So that means your american citizenship as well, unless you want to get caught and head to the shooting range. And yes it is possible to renounce US nationality as well.

Damn this is a good deal, 4k to renounce both canadian and american citizenship.

Let me quote you article 13 of the Nationality Law of the PRC
"Article 13:

Foreign nationals who once held Chinese nationality may apply for restoration of Chinese nationality if they have legitimate reasons; those whose applications for restoration of Chinese nationality have been approved shall not retain foreign nationality."

Lol anyways, I'm just gonna leave this topic. It's clear you were never going to go through with it.

[SkinnyPupp]

So what if I am out with 3 or more friends going to the mall/dinner/hangout/sing K etc etc or even just playing a game of basketball in a public basketball court does that count as unlwaful assembly?

If that's the case all the c-lais who goes shopping together or go the school to pick up their kids together should get arrested then and anyone seeing with three or more people should also get arrested as well.
They've done it to parents walking around with their kids, harassing and/or arresting parents, leaving kids screaming in terror

This is basically a police state now

[welfare]

Dawg. Let me quote you the original offer.

When you reclaim chinese citizenship, you must renounce ALL citizenships. It says so on the form. So that means your american citizenship as well, unless you want to get caught and head to the shooting range. And yes it is possible to renounce US nationality as well.

Damn this is a good deal, 4k to renounce both canadian and american citizenship.

Let me quote you article 13 of the Nationality Law of the PRC
"Article 13:

Foreign nationals who once held Chinese nationality may apply for restoration of Chinese nationality if they have legitimate reasons; those whose applications for restoration of Chinese nationality have been approved shall not retain foreign nationality."

Lol anyways, I'm just gonna leave this topic. It's clear you were never going to go through with it.

It's not over till someone says 'matte'
Long live the RS kumite

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VlWqMN0ZdGE

[320icar]

https://youtu.be/Dq6FU_htCEM

[yray]

let these fuerdai do stupid shit, then some guy will find out how the fuck does a shit tier city mayor son afford to drive a mclaren

[Mr.HappySilp]

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/hong-kong-nba-fans-signs-protests

Looks like NBA is kicking anyone with a sign or a T-shirt or even chanting support even though the games are played in the states. Wonder if anyone boo an Trump or wear a shirt that said Trump stinks will they get kick out>?

[Tim Budong]

i saw on CCTVB news that they caught a fan video of what appears to be Dwight signing a chinese flag
i mean.. thats a big nono haha
but now i can't seem to find the clip. i saw it on the 11pm news

[SkinnyPupp]

Blizzard loses another notable caster

https://twitter.com/ThatsAdmirable/status/1182429866576138240

[bcedhk]

nba, online gaming, now EDM....

https://edm.com/news/zedd-banned-china-south-park

[Razor Ramon HG]

China should just ban everything and everyone. I want to see how the people react when the things they like are taken away for trivial matters.

[bobbinka]

I mean he's not wrong. Let's put this in other terms. Let's say you looked a house to buy from a friend. No agents initially, since you're just looking and testing the waters.

Then as the deal progresses, it gets serious, agents are brought into negotiate the terms for each party. Now clauses or subjects are being brought up like inspections. Is that bad faith? No. Cause in the begining neither party knows if they're serious.

How would have BadHobz acted in bad faith if the contract wasn't even signed? Y'all just a bunch of joe blows on the internet saying random shit. You want it to be serious? Then iron out the details and get a legally binding agreement.

Having an American citizenship nor knowing that he wouldn't qualify for Chinese citizenship, doesn't constitute as negotiating in bad faith. This whole thing was about his Canadian citizenship, what the fuck does an American citizenship have to do with it? Furthermore, since it is extremely difficult to get Chinese citizenship, how would he be an actor of bad faith if that fact is public knowledge.

It's on the parties to know their own shit or hire someone who knows their shit. If you buy an E46 M3, they're not going to tell you that the generation of 3 series has subframe issues. That's something you got to do research on yourself. What makes you think that it constitutes bad faith? Bad faith is actively lying about something. Withholding information that is common knowledge, isn't bad faith.


You representing him?


A contract/agreement can be verbal. Just because something hasn't been put in writing or drafted in a lawyer's office doesn't mean it's not binding.

There is no requirement for agents to be involved in order for two parties to enter into a contract. People do this all the time (especially in China).

You are assuming that someone needs to be in a binding contract before they can act in bad faith.

Just because you pay someone for (what you think to be) professional services (not just lawyers, but also people with licenses, designations, certificates, etc) does not mean you are in the right, absolved of any wrong-doing, or have done things correctly. Having a lawyer does not prevent any party from acting in bad faith. Your lawyer only knows what you are willing to tell them.

Newfoundland Court: Bad faith refers to a subjective state of mind, that is conduct which has been motivated by ill-will, hostility, dishonesty, malice, personal animosity or even "sinister" purposes.

Supreme Court of Canada: "Bad faith" generally has been defined by the Supreme Court of Canada as "conduct involving 'malicious intent' or that 'exceeds the limits of discretion reasonably exercised.

California Court of Appeal: "I would stress, for it seems to me that an unfortunate tendency has developed of looseness of language in this respect, that bad faith or, as it is sometimes put, "lack of good faith," means dishonesty, not necessarily for a financial motive, but still dishonesty. It always involves a grave charge."

Wikipedia: Bad faith is double mindedness or double heartedness in duplicity, fraud, or deception. It may involve intentional deceit of others, or self-deception. The concept is similar to perfidy, or being "without faith", in which deception is achieved when one side in a conflict promises to act in good faith (e.g. by raising a flag of surrender) with the intention of breaking that promise once the enemy has exposed himself.

Some examples of bad faith include: a company representative who negotiates with union workers while having no intent of compromising; a prosecutor who argues a legal position that he knows to be false; an insurer who uses language and reasoning which are deliberately misleading in order to deny a claim.

Mr. Badhobz knew full well that he could not have dual citizenship if he were to become a Chinese citizen, he has stated this. However, he did not disclose that he had American citizenship to the other parties, knowing that retaining his American citizenship would prevent his application for Chinese citizenship from being approved. He withheld information that already predetermined the eventual outcome. He deliberately misled the other parties in order to entice them into entering the contract for the purpose of tying up their money for years (which he already admitted to), when he had no intention of keeping his promise.

Ill-will, dishonesty, sinister purposes, malicious intent... Sounds like bad faith.


TLDR: It's bad faith.

[twitchyzero]

i leave the internet for 24h

thread of the decade was solidified overnight

[CharlesInCharge]

How would Hong Hong supporters feel about the democratic country of Canada sending the 'White Helmets', that have been relocated here, to aid in their cause?

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/phoebe_kongwy/status/1182526582021246977

Another lunch time banker march, in response to two students who have come forward with accusations of sexual violence and sexual abuse by police. The female has been doxxed by mainlanders, and has been harassed by them ever since. She says basically she was forced to show her genitals to female cops with males nearby, being slapped in the chest by a male cop, and had her shirt lifted in front of male cops.

The male says he will give full details in the next protester press conference. He said he was raped and sodomized by male police officers.

Police want them to come forward, but they're kind of rightfully scared. In other countries of course you'd go forward. In this case, they're worried about being disappear'd.

Apparently there are people going around to shops, claiming to be protesters, threatening to vandalise their stores if they don't donate to the cause. Oldest triad trick in the book, but with a twist LUL

[SkinnyPupp]

Veby got herself a pitbull of an attorney.

She's permanently blind, and the police have yet to investigate or suspend the guy who shot her in the eye. So now they're forcing them to give up his identity so they can go after him privately.

https://twitter.com/aaronMCN/status/1182858151663550464

[HonestTea]

Veby got herself a pitbull of an attorney.

She's permanently blind, and the police have yet to investigate or suspend the guy who shot her in the eye. So now they're forcing them to give up his identity so they can go after him privately.

https://twitter.com/aaronMCN/status/1182858151663550464

Damn...

[welfare]

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/hong-kong-nba-fans-signs-protests

Looks like NBA is kicking anyone with a sign or a T-shirt or even chanting support even though the games are played in the states. Wonder if anyone boo an Trump or wear a shirt that said Trump stinks will they get kick out>?

https://babylonbee.com/news/nba-requiring-players-to-stand-for-chinese-national-anthem

NEW YORK, NY—In an effort to salvage its relationship with China, the NBA is now requiring all players to stand for the Chinese national anthem at the beginning of every game.


The official song of the People's Republic of China, "March of the Volunteers," will be played at the start of all professional basketball games, whether at home or abroad. All players, fans, coaches, and employees will be required to stand and solemnly sing lyrics including the following:

Millions of but one heart we run towards the Communist tomorrow!
Build our homeland, guard our homeland, and fight gallantly.
March on! March on! March on!
We, for tens of thousands of generations to come,
Hold high the Flag of Mao Zedong, march on!

"We hope this gesture of goodwill will show China that we love them and there is no need for our multi-billion-dollar deal to fall through," said NBA Commissioner Adam Silver. "March on, Mao!" Silver then performed a soft jazz rendition of the tune and bowed low to the ground to show President Xi Jinping that he is very sorry.

[Mr.HappySilp]

^^ LOL if they do that, NBA can kiss good bye to their US and other country fan base not to mention the US will and politicians will be on their ass and the US media is going to burn them hard some US advertisement might even cut ties with them.

[Mikoyan]

^^ LOL if they do that, NBA can kiss good bye to their US and other country fan base not to mention the US will and politicians will be on their ass and the US media is going to burn them hard some US advertisement might even cut ties with them.

So you didn't notice that it's a parody news website?

[Mr.HappySilp]

That's why I said if... Right in the beginning.

[StylinRed]

Ur not meant to entertain those articles with serious thought at all... When you do, ppl think/say wtf is wrong with you

[SkinnyPupp]

China actually backing off on something for once

China Blows Whistle on Nationalistic Protests Against the N.B.A. (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/10/business/china-blows-whistle-on-nationalist-protests-against-the-nba.html)

After three days of fanning nationalistic outrage, the Chinese government abruptly moved on Thursday to tamp down public anger at the N.B.A. as concerns spread in Beijing that the rhetoric was damaging China’s interests and image around the world.

For days, China’s state-run news outlets and tightly controlled social media platforms had been alight with criticism of the N.B.A. after a Houston Rockets executive expressed support for Hong Kong’s anti-government protesters on Twitter. Plans to broadcast two N.B.A. preseason games were canceled and some Chinese companies suspended partnerships with the league.

Now, the Chinese government appears to be reassessing its campaign against the N.B.A. and dialing down the clamor. The government is already in a bruising trade war with the United States, and a backlash against China could hurt its image in the sporting world ahead of the 2022 Winter Olympics near Beijing. The dispute with the N.B.A. was also quickly politicizing an audience of sports fans who would not normally focus on issues like the protests in Hong Kong.

Editors at state news outlets have told reporters to avoid emphasizing the N.B.A. issue for fear that it might become overheated, according to interviews with three journalists on Thursday.

The controversy soon fell off the government-guided list of top 10 trending topics on Weibo, the country’s Twitter-like microblogging service. The authorities did not cancel Thursday’s preseason N.B.A. game in Shanghai.

And even the highly nationalistic Global Times tabloid stopped pushing populist indignation over the tweet.

“I think this issue will gradually de-escalate — Global Times will not push to keep it hot,” Hu Xijin, the newspaper’s top editor, wrote in an electronic response to a request for comment. “I also hope the American side won’t make any moves to escalate it.”

China’s foreign ministry spokesman refused to say anything further about the dispute at Thursday’s news briefing.

The Chinese backlash sought to pressure the N.B.A. to be more critical of the Rockets’ general manager, Daryl Morey, who had since deleted the pro-Hong Kong tweet. The N.B.A. initially apologized for the remarks but took no further action and its commissioner later defended the league’s employees’ right to free speech.

For many observers, the issue quickly became a reminder that navigating commerce in an increasingly political China can be a minefield for international companies.

Beijing officials worry that a highly politicized struggle over the Hong Kong protests might hurt the two days of high-level trade talks starting on Thursday in Washington. Vice Premier Liu He is leading the Chinese negotiating team in Washington, and two people familiar with the talks said that the Chinese side was ready to conclude a partial deal with the Trump administration.

The protests may cause high-profile athletes and their fans around the world to pay attention to the Hong Kong protests for the first time, and their sympathies might lie with the protesters instead of Beijing, one of the two people said. Both of them insisted on anonymity because of the sensitivity of the trade and nationalism issues involved.

Tying sports very closely to Beijing’s handling of the Hong Kong protests may increase the risk of an international boycott of the Winter Olympics to be held in China in 2022, at a town just outside of Beijing. China has been wary for many months of a possible boycott.

Chinese officials have been quick to point out in recent months that China did send its athletic teams to the Los Angeles Olympics in 1984 despite a Soviet-organized boycott that year in retaliation for the American-led boycott of the Moscow Games four years earlier. China itself did not send a team to the Moscow Olympics, however, but supported the American boycott in 1980.

The campaign against the N.B.A. also put in an awkward position the many retailers that have large stocks of merchandise carrying various brands of the N.B.A. Businesses are reluctant to write off the value of this inventory.

The basketball issue was also drawing unwelcome attention to Alibaba, a Chinese electronic commerce giant that is trying to expand in the United States to compete with Amazon and that has sought to avoid becoming mired in political disputes between China and the United States. Joseph Tsai, a co-founder of Alibaba, also owns the Brooklyn Nets and jumped into the controversy over the tweet. He issued a strongly worded statement on Facebook calling for respect and understanding for China’s desire to oppose any form of separatism after a long history of intervention by foreign powers.

Interesting to start bringing up the Olympics, it's astonishing that china got another one so soon. I wonder how many countries will be willing to boycott them in 2022 :considered:

[Mikoyan]

China actually backing off on something for once

Interesting to start bringing up the Olympics, it's astonishing that china got another one so soon. I wonder how many countries will be willing to boycott them in 2022 :considered:

With the high cost of hosting the games, lack of public support from the bidding host city/country due to the costs, there's not a lot of places that want to host.

Vancouver 2010 broke even, rather that loosing money like most modern games.

After Oslo pulled out of the 2022 bidding, Beijing beat out Kazakhstan to host 2022. Even China didn't want to build a lot of new venues, they're planning on reusing some of the Summer Olympic venues if they can.

[StylinRed]

That article is too long to read especially if it's just about the nba

It's expected they're backing off, they make a lot of money too, from streaming etc from the NBA

[StylinRed]

Wow some guy tried slitting a riot cops throat, don't have a video, but riot police were walking thru a crowd, and some guy reached thru the crowd, and cut the officers neck, with a boxcutter


Ah its in this, near the end

https://youtu.be/yATE4i4MZtU

[SkinnyPupp]

Wow some guy tried slitting a riot cops throat, don't have a video, but riot police were walking thru a crowd, and some guy reached thru the crowd, and cut the officers neck, with a boxcutter


Ah its in this, near the end

https://youtu.be/yATE4i4MZtU
I can see where he's coming from. (NOT to say I condone it, as much as I shouldn't have to point this out, I am going to).

I don't post them here, but there's a constant stream of new footage of cops beating the shit out of random people while making pointless non-charge arrests. Every day about 5-10 new videos come up, cops screaming, poking, spraying, bashing, and basically being thugs.

[threezero]

I can see where he's coming from. (NOT to say I condone it, as much as I shouldn't have to point this out, I am going to).

I don't post them here, but there's a constant stream of new footage of cops beating the shit out of random people while making pointless non-charge arrests. Every day about 5-10 new videos come up, cops screaming, poking, spraying, bashing, and basically being thugs.

And there are just the same amount of video of protestors fucking up properties, throwing shit at police, beating other people up, distrusting normal life at any cost and also trying their best to murder cops.

If one can make the excuse that rioter are mad at the police because of the constant media they see of police brutality. You can also make the excuse that police is also mad about the rioter and how they are treating the city And the police force.

The goal post of acceptable behaviour from everybody is just being move further and further.

The 5 demand the rioter wants. Ask the people on the street and they will all give you a different answer. It’s not longer the same 5 demand from the very beginning.

Anarchy is all the rioter want. Not a path for a better future

[CharlesInCharge]

Poking holes in people with umbrella's, punching women in the face, lighting people on fire, and now this... China needs to re-educate these people in camps, they're as brainwashed as the isrealis and a homegrown threat at that.

[Manic!]

And there are just the same amount of video of protestors fucking up properties, throwing shit at police, beating other people up, distrusting normal life at any cost and also trying their best to murder cops.

If one can make the excuse that rioter are mad at the police because of the constant media they see of police brutality. You can also make the excuse that police is also mad about the rioter and how they are treating the city And the police force.

The goal post of acceptable behaviour from everybody is just being move further and further.

The 5 demand the rioter wants. Ask the people on the street and they will all give you a different answer. It’s not longer the same 5 demand from the very beginning.

Anarchy is all the rioter want. Not a path for a better future

The big difference is the cops are supposed to be trained professionals.

[SkinnyPupp]

And there are just the same amount of video of protestors fucking up properties, throwing shit at police, beating other people up, distrusting normal life at any cost and also trying their best to murder cops.

If one can make the excuse that rioter are mad at the police because of the constant media they see of police brutality. You can also make the excuse that police is also mad about the rioter and how they are treating the city And the police force.

The goal post of acceptable behaviour from everybody is just being move further and further.

The 5 demand the rioter wants. Ask the people on the street and they will all give you a different answer. It’s not longer the same 5 demand from the very beginning.

Anarchy is all the rioter want. Not a path for a better future
What you're saying it reasonable, and things would be totally going that way. Protesters would be singing and making human chains, and folding paper cranes, and holding up signs and banners...

...If the police hadn't been acting the way they have for the last 4 months.

It's to the point where even regular people in the street are being assaulted by police, just for wearing a mask. The "worst case scenario" is happening because of the emergency ordnance mask law. The ONLY reason to pass the law was to get people to act more violently, on both "sides". And it's working exactly as planned. The only way to get people to calm down a bit would be to cancel that law (they're going to look at it in High Court in a couple weeks)

[threezero]

Dont get me wrong. I agree the chaos is completely cause by an inadequate government. Everything could of been stop months ago if the government had listen.

But here we are now and the escalation of violence from both side is doing zero for Hong Kong's future.

Suppose the anti-mask law get struck down in a couple weeks. The scar between everyday citizen will not stop. There will be endless accusation on who is wrong, who is right. Why did you support this and why did you support that. Which act of violence justify, which act is not justify. Not to mention the police force is so beyond being save now, no hong kong citizen is going to want to join the police force for at least a generation.

There will be endless witch-hunt on both side will not stop and the only people to suffer here is the Honger of all profession and of all political belief.

Yes police are suppose to act professional. But none of the police force in Hk has the training to handle unrest at this scale. This has been pointed out before, anywhere else the city would have been under martial law at least 2 months ago. Hk police is stuck in between their people and the government. They can't call on the real professional (aka the PRC), they can't even call on support from the mainland (even more accusation of China involvement).

Its also frustrating that when police brutality happen, the whole city mobilize immediately to dig dirt on the cop. When incident like this happen, it always goes like this:

-blame that person for being a chinese puppet
-if that person is not a chinese puppet, justify its action on police brutality.

The correct answer should be all violence on another human being is wrong no matter who did it.The crowd should put the same amount of effort into denouncing violence from their own people as they do with police brutality. Who know maybe this will wake up some police that they are also a Hong Kong citizen and give everybody a common ground to stand on.

[bcedhk]

Dont get me wrong. I agree the chaos is completely cause by an inadequate government. Everything could of been stop months ago if the government had listen.

But here we are now and the escalation of violence from both side is doing zero for Hong Kong's future.

Suppose the anti-mask law get struck down in a couple weeks. The scar between everyday citizen will not stop. There will be endless accusation on who is wrong, who is right. Why did you support this and why did you support that. Which act of violence justify, which act is not justify. Not to mention the police force is so beyond being save now, no hong kong citizen is going to want to join the police force for at least a generation.

There will be endless witch-hunt on both side will not stop and the only people to suffer here is the Honger of all profession and of all political belief.

Yes police are suppose to act professional. But none of the police force in Hk has the training to handle unrest at this scale. This has been pointed out before, anywhere else the city would have been under martial law at least 2 months ago. Hk police is stuck in between their people and the government. They can't call on the real professional (aka the PRC), they can't even call on support from the mainland (even more accusation of China involvement).

Its also frustrating that when police brutality happen, the whole city mobilize immediately to dig dirt on the cop. When incident like this happen, it always goes like this:

-blame that person for being a chinese puppet
-if that person is not a chinese puppet, justify its action on police brutality.

The correct answer should be all violence on another human being is wrong no matter who did it.The crowd should put the same amount of effort into denouncing violence from their own people as they do with police brutality. Who know maybe this will wake up some police that they are also a Hong Kong citizen and give everybody a common ground to stand on.

Until the HKPF and top government staff admit their lack of training/judgment, I feel like the protest and violence won't simmer anytime soon.

[Alpine]

But here we are now and the escalation of violence from both side is doing zero for Hong Kong's future.


Not exactly... both sides only have HK's future in mind. Freedom and democracy on the protestors side, Fascism on the guard dog's side.

[Alpine]

Wow lebron came out and essentially supported China by calling Morey misinformed and his tweet 'dangerous'. Couldve been a defining moment is his career. Who wouldve thought that China is the most capitalist society of today... Weve been fooled to call them communist this entire time...

[Nlkko]

Wow lebron came out and essentially supported China by calling Morey misinformed and his tweet 'dangerous'. Couldve been a defining moment is his career. Who wouldve thought that China is the most capitalist society of today... Weve been fooled to call them communist this entire time...

His tweet was dangerous. It could have gotten the whole NBA entourage playing preseason games in China stranded. Darryl Morrey was a fucking dumb ass.

[SkinnyPupp]

If LeBron admits that China is a dangerous place for players to be, because of a TWEET, maybe he should be speaking out against them along with his commissioner and others.

[twitchyzero]

nowhere did he speak out about the tweet being dangerous...while i disagree about rockets GM being misinformed, i think he has a point...dont bite the hand that feeds when you're about to take sponsorship money/play in their house...go ahead and join the protest after business is complete...time and place for everything

[SkinnyPupp]

Actually yeah he reiterated that the only harm he was worried about was financially

So fuck him

[StylinRed]

Space Jam 2 is coming out in 2021... So ya know, no surprise

It's funny how Lebron was saying Morey was only thinking about himself when he made his tweets lmao

[SkinnyPupp]

China was already backing down - something they never ever do, and then they go and do this. Talk about complete fucking no awareness at all. China/Lebron's idiotic comments did nothing but add fuel to the fire that was starting to kind of die.

Sometimes I wonder if they're being inflammatory no purpose, because there's no way someone could be that blind. But then I realize that they have NO IDEA how to deal with people who can think openly, and are against this form of social control and capitalism.

Really I think it's a combination of the two though

[bcedhk]

"Morrey's tweet would harm someone spiritually"..... Lol Lebron, stick with your shitty taco tuesday videos.

Good reaction to LBJ uneducated response.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Rv7r7fD1I

[Alpine]

i think he has a point...dont bite the hand that feeds when you're about to take sponsorship money/play in their house...go ahead and join the protest after business is complete...time and place for everything

That's my point though. Business is never complete... LBJ is trying to develop his brand and his legacy and his son is on the path to the NBA too. When is the right time and place?

Adding this tweet from Lebron in 2018 -
https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/952902403422150657

"Injustice Anywhere Is A Threat To Justice Everywhere- Our Lives Begin To End The Day We Become Silent About Things That Matter"

[Obsideon]

They are burning Lebron's jersey in HK now. Should have kept his mouth shut.
https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/10/15/602bdd18-064a-4dd9-a896-ea0785b0f04f/thumbnail/620x413/8faf7e88b32d0029591b0050768519e7/ap-19288485517634.jpg

[spoon.ek9]

That's my point though. Business is never complete... LBJ is trying to develop his brand and his legacy and his son is on the path to the NBA too. When is the right time and place?

Adding this tweet from Lebron in 2018 -
https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/952902403422150657

"Injustice Anywhere Is A Threat To Justice Everywhere- Our Lives Begin To End The Day We Become Silent About Things That Matter"

what a damn hypocrite. everyone on twitter should be tweeting this quote back to LBJ.

[jackmeister]

They are burning Lebron's jersey in HK now. Should have kept his mouth shut.
https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/10/15/602bdd18-064a-4dd9-a896-ea0785b0f04f/thumbnail/620x413/8faf7e88b32d0029591b0050768519e7/ap-19288485517634.jpg

but he'll sell 100x as many in China.

:lawl::awwyeah:

[SkinnyPupp]

It goes beyond him just being a fucking idiot who should have kept his mouth shut. He is now a mouthpiece boot licker for China.

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1184188206926843904

[SkinnyPupp]

but he'll sell 100x as many in China.

:lawl::awwyeah:
Except he won't see a cent from those ones since they're all fakes on taobao 4Head

[Bouncing Bettys]

Lol
https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1184178345933598730
https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1184225796199567360

[StylinRed]

https://youtu.be/4Doo9kOTuUk

Someone quoted chappelle in regards to lebron

[Alpine]

Lebron's cutscene in NBA2K20:

https://streamable.com/jxkz0

[danned]

https://i.redd.it/1xmkzh5x2us31.jpg

[twdm]

Jimmy Sham, organizer of many protest marches, was attacked in the streets by 5 CCP paid thugs with hammers. Already 2nd attack on him since the protests started.
https://scontent-hkg3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/72336521_3039981922685803_1923981611569774592_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&_nc_oc=AQnVSRgusdFLzJ9t00fSc5v5hgzHwjaaCdkbgk6r3u8 sX2McyGWMhprG-9cUvvTtjak&_nc_ht=scontent-hkg3-2.xx&oh=69b256f65cd6e46105fb88ded812cf7a&oe=5E350FE9

So much for the momentary peace. I guess Carrie Lam forgot to pass the memo to her CCP stooges to stop stirring shit.

Like I said, this is the shit you'd expect from the CCP shitbags.

[Mr.HappySilp]

^^ is there any prof about who did it? Coz it could be anyone out there and without prof I wouldn't say who did it or who is behind it.

Edit. I remember awhile back (last year I think) one of the anti CCP councillor claims he was kidnapped and was tourtune for several days and he claims it was the pro CCP people who kidnapped him and use staples on his legs. Turns out it was just a bunch of lies and he staple himself and injury himself trying to paint the pro CCP a bad image.