[twdm]

^^ is there any prof about who did it? Coz it could be anyone out there and without prof I wouldn't say who did it or who is behind it.

He was attacked twice. Each time right before a major protest that he organized. It doesn't take a genius to connect the dots.

Unless you're saying the pro-democracy group has a new tactic of paying Nepali gang members to brutalize their own leaders.

[Mr.HappySilp]

He was attacked twice. Each time right before a major protest that he organized. It doesn't take a genius to connect the dots.

Unless you're saying the pro-democracy group has a new tactic of paying Nepali gang members to brutalize their own leaders.

I remember awhile back (last year I think) one of the anti CCP councillor claims he was kidnapped and was tourtune for several days and he claims it was the pro CCP people who kidnapped him and use staples on his legs. Turns out it was just a bunch of lies and he staple himself and injury himself trying to paint the pro CCP a bad image. So anything is possible.

[whitev70r]

Jimmy Sham, organizer of many protest marches, was attacked in the streets by 5 CCP paid thugs with hammers. Already 2nd attack on him since the protests started.

So much for the momentary peace. I guess Carrie Lam forgot to pass the memo to her CCP stooges to stop stirring shit.

Like I said, this is the shit you'd expect from the CCP shitbags.


I'm more wondering about the picture ... hell, that could be anyone or a hundred different scenarios.

[twdm]

I'm more wondering about the picture ... hell, that could be anyone or a hundred different scenarios.

Dude it's confirmed on the news and by the police. A simple google search could've found that for you.

[twdm]

I remember awhile back (last year I think) one of the anti CCP councillor claims he was kidnapped and was tourtune for several days and he claims it was the pro CCP people who kidnapped him and use staples on his legs. Turns out it was just a bunch of lies and he staple himself and injury himself trying to paint the pro CCP a bad image. So anything is possible.

His skull is fractured. It was observed by multiple live witnesses. So yes he used a hammer on himself to possibly give himself permanent brain damage.

[threezero]

His skull is fractured. It was observed by multiple live witnesses. So yes he used a hammer on himself to possibly give himself permanent brain damage.

Oh he could of hire people with hammers? Hammer don’t have eyes. One slip and you brought yourself a fracture skull.

Hong Kong is basically at war right now. Any one side gets injure, the finger is automatically pointed towards the other side.

Not saying that’s what happen. But you want to gain sympathy for any cause by physically setting yourself up for harm. This is the time to do it and have the entire city back you on a Lie.

[Obsideon]

I could think of a hundred other objects that could be used and not shatter ones skull and cause permanent brain damage like that.
"Here hit me on the head with these shafts that have pin point heavy steel edges" to make it look realistic. An aluminum bat to the arms and legs is weaksauce.

[SkinnyPupp]

I don't even know how to react to some of the shit people say in this thread... that's literally all I can say. What the fucking fuck.

[Badhobz]

Why would anyone make this shit up ? Or try and fake it ?

Look at the dudes dead ass eyes. He’s fucked.

Don’t care what side your own. When Chinese hurt fellow Chinese this shit has gone too far.

Enough of this horseshit already.

[Razor Ramon HG]

Reported South Asians that attacked him, so probably hired by gangs.

[whitev70r]

Brace yourself for a showdown at Rogers arena Thurs night when the NBA comes in to town!

[StylinRed]

Extremely fucked up, so lucky that he wasn't killed, hopefully he recovers as fully as possible

From hospital, the activist said he "remained committed to the ideal of peaceful non-violence".

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-50073583

Such an inspiring guy

[SkinnyPupp]

Extremely fucked up, so lucky that he wasn't killed, hopefully he recovers as fully as possible



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-50073583

Such an inspiring guy
He actually said "5 demands, not one less" as he was being carted into the ambulance. And this is the second time he's been attacked.

Might see another million marching the streets this Sunday

Oh BTW, China is blocking the export of black t-shirts into Hong Kong (https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/fashion-beauty/article/3033312/china-bans-exports-black-clothing-hong-kong-amid-protests) FailFish

So not only are they evil, they are stupid as well.

Watch out for agents provocateur who may attack Muslim businesses and properties as fake retribution to frame HK people. The citizens aren't blaming Pakistanis or anyone else for this. They know the communists just hired some thugs to do their dirty work.

[Manic!]

US collage team banned by Blizzard for holding up free Hong Kong sign during a Hearthstone live stream.

https://kotaku.com/blizzard-gives-6-month-ban-to-college-team-that-held-up-1839103489

[StylinRed]

I can understand sports/gaming associations wanting to remain neutral/non-political they're meant to be an area where everyone comes together, sets aside their differences, and build positive relationships, It's the very ethos of sports, so anything which inhibits that should be discouraged.

Blizzard has been excessive in how they've responded though, especially with banning commentators/streamers, and revoking prize money

[320icar]

US collage team banned by Blizzard for holding up free Hong Kong sign during a Hearthstone live stream.

https://kotaku.com/blizzard-gives-6-month-ban-to-college-team-that-held-up-1839103489

Later that week, American University’s three-player Hearthstone demonstrated in their own way, by holding up a sign that said “FREE HONG KONG, BOYCOTT BLIZZ” during a match. When a punishment from Blizzard to similar to Blitzchung’s was not forthcoming, the team voluntarily dropped out of future tournaments. Now, they’ve been officially banned for half a year.

Seems like they wanted to get banned. No sympathy from me for poking a bear

[Mr.HappySilp]

Love south park with their apology lol
https://time.com/5695157/south-park-china-apology/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGS6BaHVUAEjRaL.jpg:large

[bcedhk]

https://imgur.com/a/sekxoer

Info: the cops that were caught red-handed torturing/beating a patient in the hospital room brought in two extra cops at the cour hearing to "try to" confuse the reporters.

Of course, right away the apple daily reporters ID'd the real cops and people are calling out these coward cops and the Police Association as no better than triads.

https://imgur.com/a/sekxoer

[SkinnyPupp]

What a bunch of fucking clowns

[StylinRed]

ccp actually asked for Morey to be fired

https://www.si.com/nba/2019/10/17/chinese-government-asked-nba-fire-daryl-morey

Adam Silver: Chinese Government Asked NBA to Fire and Discipline Daryl Morey
JENNA WEST8 HOURS AGO

As the fallout from the controversy between the NBA and China continues, commissioner Adam Silver addressed how the Chinese government responded to Rockets general manager Daryl Morey's tweet.

"We were being asked to fire him, by the Chinese government, by the parties we dealt with in government and business. We said there's no chance that's happening. There's no chance we'll even discipline him," Silver said at the TIME 100 Health Summit on Thursday.

[6793026]

https://imgur.com/a/sekxoer

Info: the cops that were caught red-handed torturing/beating a patient in the hospital room brought in two extra cops at the cour hearing to "try to" confuse the reporters.

Of course, right away the apple daily reporters ID'd the real cops and people are calling out these coward cops and the Police Association as no better than triads.

https://imgur.com/a/sekxoer
sorry to say, there are always bad cops and good cops. Sucks to see this; however, even the protesters are bias. 80% are peaceful, its the 20% who are the bad apples which gets the most attention on the news.

I can sympathize why there are bad cops; the cops are saying they are working 18-36 hrs straight... man..that sucks.

[SkinnyPupp]

ccp actually asked for Morey to be fired

https://www.si.com/nba/2019/10/17/chinese-government-asked-nba-fire-daryl-morey
I know you ignored my NY Times article about Silver when this first happened (even replying to say you didn't read, which was a fail for you), but he deserves major props for standing up to China. They even backed down from him, something they rarely ever do.

Unfortunately some of his players are showing just how stupid humans can be, but he should get respect. NBA is going to be a 'battlefield' for a while now.

[SkinnyPupp]

sorry to say, there are always bad cops and good cops. Sucks to see this; however, even the protesters are bias. 80% are peaceful, its the 20% who are the bad apples which gets the most attention on the news.

I can sympathize why there are bad cops; the cops are saying they are working 18-36 hrs straight... man..that sucks.
You think 20% of 3 million people are rioters?

There's probably like 50 or 100 "bad apples" going around vandalising things. Maybe 200 now that China continues to provoke. And who knows how many agents provocateur on top of that...

[SkinnyPupp]

Hong Kong citizens get nominated for Nobel Peace Price, China claims this is foreign interference (https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/10/18/china-says-nobel-peace-prize-nomination-hong-kong-interference).

FailFish

[ilovebacon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_X8fqYXXww

So the US is stepping in, interesting..

[SkinnyPupp]

They're not stepping in, so much as changing their own internal policies based on things the chinese government are doing.

Mainly they will look at the advantages HK has as an SAR when dealing with the US. Most countries have special laws that allow HK to be treated differently from the rest of PRC. This is why it's such an important region of china in terms of international business - many can't or won't deal with them directly. The new bill will force them to regularly consider if HK can still be treated with special privileges.

Also it fucks over anyone who violates human rights who then try to have ties with the US, in terms of getting a visa or having financial holdings there.

Other countries are doing this as well, including Malaysia who just today said that they will not be allowing HK Police to apply for residency (https://www.journesis.com/post/?id=1435) under their "MM2H" scheme (http://www.mm2h.gov.my/index.php/en/) (a way for foreigners to get residency in Malaysia as a second home)

Little by little, China are isolating themselves from the rest of the world. I've been saying this for years, but even I am pretty shocked at how rapidly it seems to be ramping up. They're going to be back int he dark ages of the 1960's and 70's soon enough. Eventually, even being able to watch NBA (or even knowing that those letters stand for) or playing Blizzard games will be a distant memory for their people (unless they try to buy some of these companies outright, but most likely they'd just make their own fake versions)

[StylinRed]

Hong Kong citizens get nominated for Nobel Peace Price, China claims this is foreign interference (https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/10/18/china-says-nobel-peace-prize-nomination-hong-kong-interference).

FailFish

lol they have a point, that nom is exactly foreign interference. There've been, and are, struggles for freedom all over the world, places facing actual brutal oppression, like Bahrain, and because its against Saudi interests, the world remains silent, Formula 1 even held races while Bahrainis were getting bombed by Saudi Arabia, peaceful protests too mind you.

Not to say there shouldn't be foreign interference, just saying it is

[SkinnyPupp]

lol they have a point, that nom is exactly foreign interference. There've been, and are, struggles for freedom all over the world, places facing actual brutal oppression, like Bahrain, and because its against Saudi interests, the world remains silent, Formula 1 even held races while Bahrainis were getting bombed by Saudi Arabia, peaceful protests too mind you.

Not to say there shouldn't be foreign interference, just saying it is
It's just funny that they're crying about it, that's all. Crying about a nomination, saying that she should be "cautious" for nominating them. The prize is almost always political, so it's kind of a given that the people will be nominated when fighting against fascism.

[StylinRed]

Off topic, but since we mentioned Hollywood capitulation in here, just gonna leave this here

https://image.businessinsider.com/5da58397cc4a0a09d461c913?width=750&format=jpeg&auto=webp

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50093028

Dreamworks new animated movie, features a map, showing Asia, and it shows China's version of Asia, which includes their manmade islands and claims to the sea

Yes its getting released in China too

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/galileocheng/status/1185040213745160192

HK Police are talking about setting up a new type of official press pass, which will severely limit the amount of press that will be covering the scenes. On one hand I get it, there's a LOT of press out there, and even if they don't always get in the way, they can be an obstruction.

On the other, these minor press people have caught some very important footage of police violence, and it's pretty blatant the real reason behind this. I mean the fact that the cops don't show ID and actively try to obscure the press makes it obvious enough, but now they're really going to try to limit how many eyes are on them, and they will start arresting and/or assaulting most of the press who go out there without these official passes.

[SkinnyPupp]

Off topic, but since we mentioned Hollywood capitulation in here, just gonna leave this here

https://image.businessinsider.com/5da58397cc4a0a09d461c913?width=750&format=jpeg&auto=webp

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50093028

Dreamworks new animated movie, features a map, showing Asia, and it shows China's version of Asia, which includes their manmade islands and claims to the sea

Yes its getting released in China too
Because the alternative is this (https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50078886). When Dior used a legitimate map that doesn't include Taiwan as part of China, they cried, and Dior capitulated. Dreamworks just said that China is more important to them than their domestic audience and the rest of the world.

[StylinRed]

I can understand that, given the suspected amount of ppl claiming to be press (bloggers at best) but as the HK journalists association stated, anyone can be considered press, and cover the protests, there are only stringent rules for covering gov't press conferences etc.

So I wonder if press passes will be passed out to anybody who applies? And the police are just hoping the act of applying will deter... Less formal journalists

[StylinRed]

Because the alternative is this (https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50078886). When Dior used a legitimate map that doesn't include Taiwan as part of China, they cried, and Dior capitulated. Dreamworks just said that China is more important to them than their domestic audience and the rest of the world.

With the movie, I didn't realize it was an actual co production with Chinese studios, and it's set in China... Still tho ehh

But the article you just linked, wow it mentions a tonne of brands that have had to capitulate, all regarding territorial representation, not a surprise tho, China must account for 90% of their sales, but damn

[CP.AR]

I logged into RS for the first time in over half a year... to try to get some escape from the shitstorm here in HK (my facebook, IG is flooded).

And alas...
First thread i click into is about the protests.
diu

[SkinnyPupp]

With the movie, I didn't realize it was an actual co production with Chinese studios, and it's set in China... Still tho ehh

But the article you just linked, wow it mentions a tonne of brands that have had to capitulate, all regarding territorial representation, not a surprise tho, China must account for 90% of their sales, but damn
Practically every movie is a co-production with Chinese studios now - they have to be in order to be able to be screened there.

[Mr.HappySilp]

Practically every movie is a co-production with Chinese studios now - they have to be in order to be able to be screened there.

Really depends on the storyline. Movies like Joker will never be air in China no matter what. The topics are just too sensitive. When I was in China I happen to be channel flipping and caught terminator genisys playing on TV and on man the editing and cut scene was awful. They literally cut every scene that have police being shoot at (IE when T-1000 turn into a cop that whole scene was deleted coz they didn't want anyone to have the idea of shooting the cops). Because of all the scene was being cut the movies made no sense at times.

[SkinnyPupp]

Off topic, but since we mentioned Hollywood capitulation in here, just gonna leave this here

https://image.businessinsider.com/5da58397cc4a0a09d461c913?width=750&format=jpeg&auto=webp

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50093028

Dreamworks new animated movie, features a map, showing Asia, and it shows China's version of Asia, which includes their manmade islands and claims to the sea

Yes its getting released in China too
The Philippines has pulled “Abominable” from theaters (https://entertainment.inquirer.net/348657/mtrcb-bans-abominable-over-china-map) because the US-Chinese-made movie showed the controversial “nine-dash” line map supporting Beijing’s claims to nearly all of the South China Sea.

[Hondaracer]

Just kind of half ass reading some of this shit makes fucking Russia seem like the tolerant west lol.. how ass backwards can you get

[SkinnyPupp]

https://i.imgur.com/qtsHjXv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/aXrcF3q.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XMgToNi.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/BCNxrCv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/luO7Ry4.jpg

https://twitter.com/HongKongFP/status/1185167483126239233

Masked human chains stretched throughout the city last night both on the island and kowloon. Halloween preview? Several thousand people, young, old, families with their kids. All masked in an illegal assembly.

Cops didn't show up, and no violence occurred :considered:

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/galileocheng/status/1185040213745160192

HK Police are talking about setting up a new type of official press pass, which will severely limit the amount of press that will be covering the scenes. On one hand I get it, there's a LOT of press out there, and even if they don't always get in the way, they can be an obstruction.

On the other, these minor press people have caught some very important footage of police violence, and it's pretty blatant the real reason behind this. I mean the fact that the cops don't show ID and actively try to obscure the press makes it obvious enough, but now they're really going to try to limit how many eyes are on them, and they will start arresting and/or assaulting most of the press who go out there without these official passes.
https://twitter.com/XinqiSu/status/1185380070967275520

Looks like they're backing off

Although I question her definition of "facilitating the press"

https://cpj.org/hk_stand-news_09-30-2019_rs.jpg

[StylinRed]

After mere days of protests a sate of emergency has been issued in Santiago, Chile, as student protesters become violent, and destroy subway stations, clash with police, and set fire to buses/stations, due to fare price increases

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-50106743

Somewhat similar to HK with frustration boilingdue to an increasing wealth gap

The unrest exposes divisions in the country, one of Latin America's wealthiest but also one of its most unequal. There have been growing complaints about the cost of living - especially in Santiago, a city of some six million people - and calls for economic reforms.

...

Speaking on television, President Sebastián Piñera said the aim of the state of emergency was to "ensure public order and the safety of public and private property". The measure allows authorities to restrict people's freedom of movement and their right to assembly.

...

Speaking to Radio Agricultural earlier, President Piñera said: "It's one thing to demonstrate and another to commit the vandalism we have observed. This isn't protest, it's crime."

It was not immediately clear how many people had been detained or injured. Despite the protests, authorities said they would not reverse the fare increase.

[SkinnyPupp]

The whole world has the same problem, where like 1% of the population holds 99% of the wealth.

As for the topic, tomorrow's march is being denied. They're closing down all the public services in TST (museum, science center, even Kowloon park) at noon. So you know they plan on sending riot cops in there to crack skulls.

Also HKU, the oldest university here, voted overwhelmingly to remove Carrie Lam as a chancellor. Some fascists already spoke out and said they plan on fighting this in court (the statement itself is non binding, just speaks of their intent)

https://twitter.com/alvinllum/status/1185479598533775361

This should give you an idea of how HK people would vote for her, if they could

[twdm]

A dude just got carved open with a large knife by a CCP shitbag.

https://www.facebook.com/1648246202123798/posts/2448828155398928/?sfnsn=mo

Just note probably NSFW.

I mean it's as if they want the protestors to kill all those fuckers. I'd suggest any pro-ccp stooges to hide tomorrow because if someone triggers the mob, it's gonna be taxi man part 2. Except this time they'll actually bash their brains out.

[StylinRed]

a 22yr old stabbed a 19yr old handing out leaflets, his friend who was handing our leaflets with him, said the suspect had walked by him, yelling about protesters ruining HK, then headed towards his friend.

Suspect got in a taxi, and left, but police arrested himafterwards

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/HongKongFP/status/1185779065782824960

https://twitter.com/vickywong710/status/1185779499272564738

A long day is about to begin. If the cops would just stay away, people would just do their march peacefully. There have been smaller ones two nights in a row, with no issues, because the cops stayed back.

But here they are with their loudspeakers and signs, closing stations, getting their tear gas and pepper spray and water cannons ready FailFish

[SkinnyPupp]

Beijing using S Asians to attack protesters and trying to create a divide between the races is certainly backfiring on them. If anything, previously "racist" HKers (I use quotes because they're rarely malicious about it) are finally realizing that they're in the same situation their S Asian brothers and sisters always were. This is making the community tighter than ever.

https://twitter.com/ARaquelCarvalho/status/1185818312153812993

https://twitter.com/cityusucbc/status/1185777717133709313

https://twitter.com/erinhale/status/1185790550227611648

https://twitter.com/whannyuanc/status/1185800041358737410

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/Woppa1Woppa/status/1185847839257067520

Cops rolled through with the dye cannon, and vandalized the mosque when no protesters were in the area (only some press members)

https://twitter.com/nytmay/status/1185836551676104705

https://twitter.com/yvonne_tg/status/1185849566190424064

Afterward, protesters came back to help clean up

China has been putting pressure on the S Asian community in the last week, and this is just the latest attempt. Of course it's failing along with everything else they do.

[threezero]

They're not stepping in, so much as changing their own internal policies based on things the chinese government are doing.

Mainly they will look at the advantages HK has as an SAR when dealing with the US. Most countries have special laws that allow HK to be treated differently from the rest of PRC. This is why it's such an important region of china in terms of international business - many can't or won't deal with them directly. The new bill will force them to regularly consider if HK can still be treated with special privileges.

Also it fucks over anyone who violates human rights who then try to have ties with the US, in terms of getting a visa or having financial holdings there.

Other countries are doing this as well, including Malaysia who just today said that they will not be allowing HK Police to apply for residency (https://www.journesis.com/post/?id=1435) under their "MM2H" scheme (http://www.mm2h.gov.my/index.php/en/) (a way for foreigners to get residency in Malaysia as a second home)

Little by little, China are isolating themselves from the rest of the world. I've been saying this for years, but even I am pretty shocked at how rapidly it seems to be ramping up. They're going to be back int he dark ages of the 1960's and 70's soon enough. Eventually, even being able to watch NBA (or even knowing that those letters stand for) or playing Blizzard games will be a distant memory for their people (unless they try to buy some of these companies outright, but most likely they'd just make their own fake versions)

There is rules and sanction the government put on China. And than there is the reality of economic….

Sadly when it comes to making money, morality is often brushed aside.

Seeing how big companies is responding to topic that is delicate to China. Everybody clearly wants China's money at whatever cause it may be.

The Scariest effect of this whole HK ordeal, might just be HK loosing its special status for international business. HK was necessary portal for China when the west wanted the Chinese money without playing by the Chinese rules. It seems like the tide is changing. Obviously things like banking and the financial sector would still benefit from HK's distinction from China, but there isn't really any special advantage for other sectors, especially for international companies that will clearly bend backwards for China.

Luxury store are looking to pull out of the region as early as first quarter of 2020. International Business with branches in HK is closing shop/moving one by one.

Business as an entity value stability over all else, democracy is not even on the list of their priority. Looks like Singapore is going to be the biggest winner of the whole sega. Hong Kong's authoritative westernize asian brother is suddenly looking even more interesting now for companies that has an interested in Asia.

Perhaps in two years time. There will still be protest on the street on HK, except it will be about lack of employment, quality of living and the abysmal outlook for the region economically.

The city cannot survive on the financial sector alone, once the rest of the money completely dries up. the Financial sector will too. I guess the city can survive on state own business. But will people bow their head and accept that they must be state slaves after protesting against this very thing?

If the protest keeps it, it is just a matter of time when HK completely loses its special statue to the rest of the world. Perhaps not on a policy standpoint, but base on the reality of economics…...

[SkinnyPupp]

The protests must continue. HK is ruined either way. They might as well ruin it for the billionaires if their home is ruined anyway LUL

[SkinnyPupp]

https://streamable.com/jjfmk

Police are completely out of control. Once again they take a parting shot as they ran off, just like they did with the Indonesian press member. No regard for human life at all, just taking pot shots because... who the fuck knows why. They are completely out of control.

I think disbanding the police force may become a new demand. If they can't do an inquiry they may need to blow the whole thing up.

[SkinnyPupp]

China backing down from Adam Silver and the NBA was absolutely shocking to me, so I am not surprised to see that they are flip-flopping again (https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/10/21/nbas-commissioner-will-receive-retribution-sooner-later-defaming-china-state-media-reports/) after suffering massive amounts of "face loss", this time promising "retribution" and "punishment" against the NBA commissioner.

[SkinnyPupp]

Police officer puts a molotov target on his helmet

https://twitter.com/KongTsungGan/status/1186299765622861824

[originalhypa]

If it's any consolation, I have decided to sever ties with my Chinese factories, instead bringing my manufacturing back to Taiwan. Oddly enough, even though the labor costs are about 20% higher, my customers didn't care and appreciate that I'm getting out of China.

These are huge corporations too. That surprised me, although these places are run by humans...

[twitchyzero]

what you make, knock-off Recaro/Bride seats?

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/Woppa1Woppa/status/1186597832091766785

https://twitter.com/wwkk27744741/status/1186460964259946496

It seems extreme, but it's looking like the HKPF really needs to be disbanded and started over from scratch. They are completely out of control, they have no idea what they're doing out there. It's basically a bunch of goons running around with weapons.

I am blown away at how far they have fallen. It's really sad.

[$_$]

https://twitter.com/Woppa1Woppa/status/1186597832091766785

https://twitter.com/wwkk27744741/status/1186460964259946496

It seems extreme, but it's looking like the HKPF really needs to be disbanded and started over from scratch. They are completely out of control, they have no idea what they're doing out there. It's basically a bunch of goons running around with weapons.

I am blown away at how far they have fallen. It's really sad.



It's not even that. I think the simplest, smallest steps to regain public confidence is to just take some police brutality that is obviously out of line that is caught on camera and widely circulated and have the police force go "We understand that there may have been misconduct, we will investigate and give out the appropriate punishment." Maybe some paid leave like the US does. THAT at the very least will start to quell some of the anger, without "mistreating the hand of the law" which is the police line.

But the stance of the govt/police is to deny ANY wrongdoing, irregardless of what everyone can see with their own eyes. There's a saying in Chinese, "真眼說瞎話" (lies spouted from truth you can see), and that's basically what the police conferences are every week.

This is why I grow tired of the Pro-CCP stance of "Unity". We must be united, or else there will be 民碎 (fragmentation). Unity at what costs? Unity at the cost of lies and intimidation? Dehumanization of opposing views? The equation seems to be $$$$ > ALL = Unity.

HK is not in a state of emergency -> puts in emergency law

Have Police roam around basically picking fights with civilians but it's not a police state.

I don't think think they will ever even entertain the idea of disbanding the police force, but common, at least take responsibility for some of the shithead actions that happen. The consequences of that is a totally devaluing of moral standards across the board.

[$_$]

To be honest though, I'm not even that surprised at the continued escalation by the police and govt. You just need to look at it in the context of their strategy. It seems that Beijing has already given up on trying to reclaim the hearts of the HK people. They seem bent on tearing HK down and then rebuilding it from scratch. In order to do that, they need to have a reason to send the PLA in.

So it's becoming increasingly obvious that they will fan the flames as much as possible, putting out stupid laws and having the police patrol the streets and fire teargas endlessly on civilians to anger the peaceful protestors and radicalize the moderates. The first step is to introduce the idea that the protestors are willing to resort to using bombs in order to achieve their goals - we saw that over the weekend with a "suspected bomb" in the middle of the streets with bomb squad needing to come and disarm it.

As soon as you involve bombs, you can label the protestors as terrorists instead of just rioters. Then they can shut down the city and send the PLA, start building "re-education facilities".

It makes me depressed, because you can foresee all these things while watching, but helpless to do anything about it

[SkinnyPupp]

Beijing draws up plan to replace Carrie Lam as Hong Kong chief (https://www.ft.com/content/5ef0fc30-f4a3-11e9-b018-3ef8794b17c6). Chief executive would resign by March under proposal that needs Xi’s sign off

Said from the beginning that this is a pointless endeavor. She is literally useless, nothing more than a puppet of Beijing. Still, this would take care of another demand, and if Beijing sees this as a way to gain some face, I say let them. 3 more demands to go.

Maybe her replacement will be willing to do what's needed, without being so stubborn and worrying so much about "losing face"

[whitev70r]

Suspect in murder case that led to Hong Kong’s protests leaves prison

http://globalnews.ca/news/6070092/hong-kong-protests-murder-extradition/

https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/22015727-e1571801566176.jpg?quality=70&strip=all&w=720

[SkinnyPupp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLABFJZ2XOM

https://streamable.com/fpuv4

[SkinnyPupp]

Suspect in murder case that led to Hong Kong’s protests leaves prison

http://globalnews.ca/news/6070092/hong-kong-protests-murder-extradition/

https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/22015727-e1571801566176.jpg?quality=70&strip=all&w=720
He's not really what led to the protests. He was just used as an excuse which ended up being the straw that broke the camel's back

[whitev70r]

^regardless, 'lock him up'.

[Hehe]

If it's any consolation, I have decided to sever ties with my Chinese factories, instead bringing my manufacturing back to Taiwan. Oddly enough, even though the labor costs are about 20% higher, my customers didn't care and appreciate that I'm getting out of China.

These are huge corporations too. That surprised me, although these places are run by humans...

It's not that hard to explain their reasoning either. For any business in int'l trade, they want stability as it's the only way to make feasible projections and hence planning.

They'd rather have a known 20% increase in cost that's going to be the norm, rather than 15% duty today and 30% in a few weeks. The constant change means a chaos in pricing, logistic... etc. Contracts are signed with often months in advance, and no one would knowingly want to sign something that they might lose money on.

[JDMEK9]

30937

[6793026]

Beijing draws up plan to replace Carrie Lam as Hong Kong chief (https://www.ft.com/content/5ef0fc30-f4a3-11e9-b018-3ef8794b17c6). Chief executive would resign by March under proposal that needs Xi’s sign off

Said from the beginning that this is a pointless endeavor. She is literally useless, nothing more than a puppet of Beijing. Still, this would take care of another demand, and if Beijing sees this as a way to gain some face, I say let them. 3 more demands to go.

Maybe her replacement will be willing to do what's needed, without being so stubborn and worrying so much about "losing face"

I read about this too, family and I are debating if it's legit or not. Couldn't fact check cause.. no one fucking knows what China is thinking ahhaha.
The two candidates were Tong Tong or Mr lam. Both have previous political experience. Not sure how this will play out. If social pressures were able to remove Carrie, China would have done so or at least least Carrie resign.

If it does happen, I hope HK will rest on these protest. At lesat for the short term.

[Tim Budong]

^regardless, 'lock him up'.

hong kong cant extradite him back to taiwan without recognising Taiwan as an independent. this gonna get messy :heckno:

[SkinnyPupp]

hong kong cant extradite him back to taiwan without recognising Taiwan as an independent. this gonna get messy :heckno:
They don't have to, he's going to go there on his own will and turn himself in.

Extradition was never needed, it was just an excuse to force it into the law to capture Mainland Chinese criminals and "criminals"

[$_$]

They don't have to, he's going to go there on his own will and turn himself in.

Extradition was never needed, it was just an excuse to force it into the law to capture Mainland Chinese criminals and "criminals"

That's not going to happen without HK police officers accompanying him to Taiwan. First of all, under what visa is he going to travel to Taiwan by himself? As a tourist? And also, who's going to want to take a domestic flight with a self-admitted murderer without police escort? Can you imagine if you were sitting beside this guy on the airplane or waiting at the airport gate? But the HK government is refusing to escort him to Taiwan, or allow Taiwanese police to come to Hong Kong to escort him back.

Game of politics of who has sovereignty over where and over what. Stupid game, no doubt, but exactly what this whole protest movement has been about, so right now the details matter.

I find it incredulous though, that HK government just allows this guy to roam around and go back home even though he already admitted to the killing. And no doubt he was told what to say to the media (I want to travel to Taiwan to turn myself in) in order to try to establish that TW is not "sovereign" therefore there are no problems traveling between the two places without the need for special escort.

[whitev70r]

^ Yah, I find it incredulous that a committed murderer would extradite himself but .... some people think that he will.

[SkinnyPupp]

That's not going to happen without HK police officers accompanying him to Taiwan. First of all, under what visa is he going to travel to Taiwan by himself? As a tourist? And also, who's going to want to take a domestic flight with a self-admitted murderer without police escort? Can you imagine if you were sitting beside this guy on the airplane or waiting at the airport gate? But the HK government is refusing to escort him to Taiwan, or allow Taiwanese police to come to Hong Kong to escort him back.

Game of politics of who has sovereignty over where and over what. Stupid game, no doubt, but exactly what this whole protest movement has been about, so right now the details matter.

I find it incredulous though, that HK government just allows this guy to roam around and go back home even though he already admitted to the killing. And no doubt he was told what to say to the media (I want to travel to Taiwan to turn myself in) in order to try to establish that TW is not "sovereign" therefore there are no problems traveling between the two places without the need for special escort.
They can work something out. It might not be until after Lam is gone. If HK is unwilling to let Taiwanese officers come pick him up, they can have HK officers accompany him straight to the door of his plane, and have Taiwanese officers pick him up the moment it lands in Taiwan. He doesn't need a visa, just arrest him right at the border.

It's a bit complicated, especially when you have to deal with Beijing and their thin skin, but it can be accomplished. If Carrie Lam and Beijing want to "save face" (and we know this is their #1 priority) and convince people that the whole intention of the bill was to bring him to justice, they will try to get him to Taiwan somehow.

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/SCMPNews/status/1186926769686880257

This is actually pretty funny. HK Protesters trashed the Xiaomi store. Some dude comes to loot some phones. Protesters tied him up to a railing and left him for the cops to arrest LUL

They are very sincere with their anti-looting rule. I just wish they'd stop using fire.

[punkwax]

Why do Hong Kong police wake up so early?

To beat the crowds.

:badpokerface:

:ilied:

[Badhobz]

https://www.askideas.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Funny-Chinese-Name-Meme.jpg

[320icar]

https://youtu.be/6LeJwxx--d0

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/027/989/ross.jpg

[GIZZ]

*******NOT NECESSARILY MY PERSONAL BELIEFS, I’M JUST PASSING ALONG WHAT WAS SENT TO ME!!!

My friend in HK just sent me this message and links. “Pass on to show the truth of what really goes on in hk” She’s been freaking out the past few months, very stressful for her and her kids.

希望透過大家的努力，廣傳及送到全世界各國朋友手上，讓大家真實了解香港現在面臨的暴亂和暴徒 的惡行 和香港警察的堅持 。

Video 1
Say NO to Violence 向暴力說不
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKRrVoNe1I4&t=39s&has_verified=1

Video 2
Say no to Terror 向恐怖手段說不
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi2B9ixKYPc&t=30s&has_verified=1

Video 3
True or Fake News係真定係假新聞？中文版
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvICiUnMfhs&t=4s

True or Fake News / 英文版
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoAD-pUNRv0&t=7s

Video 4
Hong Kong Voices from the Heart香港人的心聲
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtuXbnblOfg&t=24s

Video 5
Hong Kong is part of China香港是中國的一部 / 英文版
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeELlU5sNyw&t=146s

Hong Kong is part of China香港是中國的一部 /中文版
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIaK_0dRKfs

Video 6
The Hong Kong Police Compared to the West
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBsJKvfRe_g&t=1s&has_verified=1

Video 7
Treasure HK End Violence珍惜香港 停止暴力
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiIgWprLTyU&t=171s&has_verified=1

Video 8
Hong Kong Rioters’ Deception香港暴徒的騙術
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9qez3D9N_I&t=96s&has_verified=1

*******NOT NECESSARILY MY PERSONAL BELIEFS, I’M JUST PASSING ALONG WHAT WAS SENT TO ME

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/BeWaterHKG/status/1187709987138617344

Chungking Mansion restaurants all packed to full capacity, with lineups around the street to even get into the area. Beijing's attempt at ripping Hong Kong apart based on race has failed, and has had the opposite effect.

[twitchyzero]

i know most canadians will go hurr durr GOP is cancer/pence is a hypocritical baby but his speech was spot on in many respects

some solace in seeing washington calling beijing out for its increased aggression

i think Apple should be roasted for nuthugging the communists too

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/24/mike-pence-hawkish-china-speech-hong-kong/

[GIZZ]

*******Not necessarily my personal beliefs, lol*******

Of course he supports them, I thought everyone knew that. Who is feeding the guys bags of cash that pay the protestors?

Everyone knows this is happening, right? Another acquaintances bro in HK protested, he gave his ID to them in the morn, at the end of the protest day he got his ID back and got paid. Talking to them now there is big money to be made depending on how much they hurt people/property

*****Again, not my personal beliefs

[StylinRed]

i know most canadians will go hurr durr GOP is cancer/pence is a hypocritical baby but his speech was spot on in many respects

some solace in seeing washington calling beijing out for its increased aggression

i think Apple should be roasted for nuthugging the communists too

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/24/mike-pence-hawkish-china-speech-hong-kong/

It's true what he says is right... Yet it's just so frustrating hearing the US start a hubub over hong kong, when Iraq, the gov't they placed into power, is literally slaughtering protesters, 200! Have been killed, and all you hear are murmurs at best out of the US

[threezero]

*******Not necessarily my personal beliefs, lol*******

Of course he supports them, I thought everyone knew that. Who is feeding the guys bags of cash that pay the protestors?

Everyone knows this is happening, right? Another acquaintances bro in HK protested, he gave his ID to them in the morn, at the end of the protest day he got his ID back and got paid. Talking to them now there is big money to be made depending on how much they hurt people/property

*****Again, not my personal beliefs

I am sure everybody is in denial in hk over the amount of financial support coming from both side of the protest.

Denial must be maintain because this is suppose to be a grassroots movement On both side....

[hi-revs]

Everyone knows this is happening, right? Another acquaintances bro in HK protested, he gave his ID to them in the morn, at the end of the protest day he got his ID back and got paid. Talking to them now there is big money to be made depending on how much they hurt people/property


I've heard this as well. Didnt think it was true. But now......

[GIZZ]

US wants China to fail. China ownes over a trillion $ of US T bills, the trade war is still going on. US ultimately wants Gotham city, then they storm in like Britain did in 1840 and take control of HK. I just don’t know how the protestors don’t see this. But then again, nobody imagined trump would be president, then it happened.

[320icar]

I want to say obvious troll, but account from 2003?

[$_$]

*******Not necessarily my personal beliefs, lol*******

Of course he supports them, I thought everyone knew that. Who is feeding the guys bags of cash that pay the protestors?

Everyone knows this is happening, right? Another acquaintances bro in HK protested, he gave his ID to them in the morn, at the end of the protest day he got his ID back and got paid. Talking to them now there is big money to be made depending on how much they hurt people/property

*****Again, not my personal beliefs

I've heard this again and again, but I've never seen a shred of evidence to support this claim. Donations of gear, food, refuge, yes. But never outright cash. And how does one facilitate the paying of tens/hundreds of thousands of people?

But hey, the police brutality I see on livestream every day seems pretty real to me.

[GIZZ]

I want to say obvious troll, but account from 2003?

First off, this is a conversation. Do not take it personal.

Trying to burn down the city and kill cops is not how you go about improving things. How do you see this is right? The police are simply reacting to violence, they are not the instigators.

I’m just on the outside looking at HK, everyone I know that lives there sides with the police. Day in, day out I hear their frustrations and at first I only saw what they showed me, I then looked into it and came to the same conclusion.

I haven’t been to HK in a few years, we had to vacay there next year. Ever since the acts of terrorism that’s not going to happen, do I blame police or protestors for this?

[$_$]

To be honest though, I'm not even that surprised at the continued escalation by the police and govt. You just need to look at it in the context of their strategy. It seems that Beijing has already given up on trying to reclaim the hearts of the HK people. They seem bent on tearing HK down and then rebuilding it from scratch. In order to do that, they need to have a reason to send the PLA in.

So it's becoming increasingly obvious that they will fan the flames as much as possible, putting out stupid laws and having the police patrol the streets and fire teargas endlessly on civilians to anger the peaceful protestors and radicalize the moderates. The first step is to introduce the idea that the protestors are willing to resort to using bombs in order to achieve their goals - we saw that over the weekend with a "suspected bomb" in the middle of the streets with bomb squad needing to come and disarm it.

As soon as you involve bombs, you can label the protestors as terrorists instead of just rioters. Then they can shut down the city and send the PLA, start building "re-education facilities".

It makes me depressed, because you can foresee all these things while watching, but helpless to do anything about it

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First off, this is a conversation. Do not take it personal.

Trying to burn down the city and kill cops is not how you go about improving things. How do you see this is right? The police are simply reacting to violence, they are not the instigators.

I’m just on the outside looking at HK, everyone I know that lives there sides with the police. Day in, day out I hear their frustrations and at first I only saw what they showed me, I then looked into it and came to the same conclusion.

I haven’t been to HK in a few years, we had to vacay there next year. Ever since the acts of terrorism that’s not going to happen, do I blame police or protestors for this?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[twitchyzero]

HK is not the next kuwait or panama

as likely as China invading san diego or vancouver island

[tiger_handheld]

can someone give me a coles notes sit rep?

is it true that airlines hotel are still cancelling flights?

i thought many 3-4 /5 key demands are met (only left carrie resigning and universal suffrage)

[yray]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rFs0uVY_4rE/RzTqEXXH2LI/AAAAAAAABTU/0m9SckNjOj4/s320/5+Jiao.jpg

wumao everywhere... including revscene

[sp00n]

https://youtu.be/zhuXB23PICA

Ok which one of you is the tattooed guy. Admit it.

[Badhobz]

The tattoo guy had some weird ass Mandarin. The Guangdong dudes Mandarin similarly bad. Mei you shou yang.

[6793026]

can someone give me a coles notes sit rep?

is it true that airlines hotel are still cancelling flights?

i thought many 3-4 /5 key demands are met (only left carrie resigning and universal suffrage)


Nope, only 1 demand: removal of the bill.

shit still happening; police still beating up people (based on what you see on video, and of course there are some who are peaceful) and then protesters still bashing / burning / vandalizing MTR stations, beating up people who are filming improperly.

A bill /law has been passed to not allow wearing masks.
*i use removed / not allowed very loosely,not sure what the official legal terminologies are.

TL;DR
When protests are happening every weekend, it's desensitized. Core message is lost (on both sides); and nothing is being done.

[bcedhk]

can someone give me a coles notes sit rep?

is it true that airlines hotel are still cancelling flights?

i thought many 3-4 /5 key demands are met (only left carrie resigning and universal suffrage)

What do you mean by airline hotels? flights have resumed the past few weeks and a lot of hotels are slashing prices since there is a significant drop in bookings.

The government has so far only met 1 of the 5 demands. TBH I would say 3 of the 4 remaining demands will only happen when pigs fly. But a commission of inquiry into alleged police brutality (which is part of the demand) will help simmer down the violence in HK.

[$_$]

Core message is lost (on both sides); and nothing is being done.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by core message is lost? It seems that the demands are quite clear, 4/5 core demands still left. Protestors will come out and continue to protest until they feel like the government is at least trying to satisfy those demands.

Even the reporters collectively seemed to protest the police brutality against the press today during the police conference after one media outlet decided to cut them off during the press conference.

https://youtu.be/8GCTcBJsgH8?t=1805

The police just straight up lies during the conferences despite, again, what everyone can see on livestreams and never admit any wrongdoing. Push the press out of the way, rip off their gas mask (which they are allowed to be wearing if they are in proper high visibility gear + displaying press ID), spraying pepper spray at point blank range at reporters that don't have gear, shining super bright lights at cameras/press during arrests, and just general intimidation.

Are there shithead reporters that don't get out of the way of the police or make it difficult for the police to do their job? Yeah, I see them on livestream and those should and are called out. But there are so many instances of the police losing their cool and are balatantly breaking the law of what is acceptable. And when that does happen, there is zero accountability because the police refuses to display proper police badge ID's. During every single press conference they are grilled about this, but they have the audacity to respond that the police are under a lot of stress therefore they don't want to display their ID/not enforced by the force. Wah wah wah, maybe the police force shouldn't be out there beating and intimidating people all day making the whole population hate you then.

It's not hard to de-escalate the situation. Tell the public that every instance of arrestee will undergo fair trials/rigorous evidence trial. Those arrested based on eye witness accounts of ONLY the police officers should get softer sentences, while still sentencing those who were caught on camera doing physical violence still persecuted to the fullest extent of the law. This will quell the pro-CCP supporters while catering a bit to the general public as the public has zero trust in police. Charge the violent protestors caught on camera as rioters, and the none-evidenced ones as protestors. Set up an independent inquiry in the handling of the police, with half neutral half not neutral council.

Just doing some very basic, trustworthy things will already satisfy a huge portion of the moderate and peaceful protestors. After all, they just want to feel like the government is at least listening to them.

But obviously, we aren't going to see any of that happen. Because that's not the governments tactics. They just want to escalate, escalate, escalate.

If you don't currently watch the livestreams and have a strong opinion about what's happening, I implore you to spend some time on the weekends during night time to watch the livestreams. Some propaganda outlets will tell you that it's only bored/paid young people out there causing havoc, but in reality it really isn't. During the peaceful weekend protests you will see old aunties and uncles begging the riot police to stop escalating the violence and to just let them demonstrate in peace. But in return, the police fired pepper spray, tear gas, and beat some of them with batons in an attempt to disperse the crowd. How can you not get angry when you see those images live, unfiltered and un-edited? You'll also see the police rushing the crowds and purposely picking out the youngest and weakest protestors they can target. Kids as young as 12-14 being surrounded by 15 riot police getting body searched and taken away.

This isn't some "conspiracy" that the western media cook up. This is just the reality of the situation on the ground in HK right now. Who'd thought a couple years ago that things like that could happen in HONG KONG of all places? Riot police also just indiscriminately shoot tear gas in high density residential areas all night long. 100 rounds of tear gas basically wafting up all around your neighborhood coating everything in your house. How would that make you feel if you lived there? And if anything, why would you hate the police and not the protestors? Something to think about.

[bcedhk]

The thing that boils HKers blood is the countless excuses HKPF are using to justify their action (and they are recycling alot of it at these conferences) . For instance things like

1: Police are under a lot of pressure
2: They are working a lot of OT
3: They are using minimal force
4: The protestors have weapons

[twitchyzero]

poor kid has to see that garbage

[Okami]

What the heck happened to her legs :heckno:

[CRS]

What the heck happened to her legs :heckno:

Genu valgum also known as knock-knees that for the most part is genetic but also could be a sign of rickets due to vitamin D deficiency.

[SkinnyPupp]

Happy Halloween everyone. Good thing the fine folks at Hong Kong Police were there to keep these violent rioters from ruining the holiday.

https://twitter.com/kanis_leung/status/1189914459357057024

https://twitter.com/SCMPHongKong/status/1189900788920750080

https://twitter.com/rachel_cheung1/status/1189890235116580864

https://twitter.com/hoccgoomusic/status/1189934872455827457

https://twitter.com/demosisto/status/1189929813043081216

https://twitter.com/Woppa1Woppa/status/1189931047753932800

https://twitter.com/fktws/status/1189905595446394881

https://twitter.com/yukikei/status/1189929020000854017

https://twitter.com/demosisto/status/1189922172237561863

[$_$]

It’s beginning.

https://youtu.be/edCO0AglCR8

[SkinnyPupp]

When China’s Air Force conducted a drill named “A Surprise Attack on Hong Kong” earlier this month, a helicopter crash caused 11 deaths (https://www.theepochtimes.com/crash-of-military-helicopter-during-a-drill-in-china-causes-11-deaths_3133854.html)

Soldiers in the Air Assault Brigade of South China Military Region took off from Chongzuo City of Guangxi Province on Oct. 11, launching a “surprise attack” on Xupu County of Hunan Province, located 500 miles away, being used to represent Hong Kong.

At 7:40 p.m., a Z-8G, China’s latest military transport helicopter, crashed into a mountain in Xupu County. All 11 people on board were killed, including 3 military officers and 8 soldiers.

[SkinnyPupp]

Alternate angle of one of the terrorist attacks on Halloween... You can see the "police" break formation to attack a random citizen, skulling him with his baton, causing severe bleeding

https://streamable.com/n4odf

[320icar]

So fucked.

[Mr.Money]

how china didn't riot harder after that video i don't know...

[SkinnyPupp]

Just look at all the videos I posted from Halloween. I can't believe the restraint of the people, and the opposite of the cops. These aren't violent protesters or rioters, but the cops are just abusing them and terrorizing them.

I didn't even post this kindergarten age student who was terrorised by police, being hit with tear gas

https://twitter.com/SandyKum404/status/1190318428076171264

If you wonder why someone might want to attack the police with bombs, here you are. Wonder no more. I guess they want to fight terrorism with terrorism.

[SkinnyPupp]

Terrorists shoot tear gas at fire truck, firefighter argues with the terrorists, who push him around and then pepper spray at the press who were recording it

https://twitter.com/fktws/status/1190609558038700032

[bcedhk]

Terrorists shoot tear gas at fire truck, firefighter argues with the terrorists, who push him around and then pepper spray at the press who were recording it

https://twitter.com/fktws/status/1190609558038700032

From Apple daily new, it said the fireman involved was scolded his superintendent and probably won’t get his promotion....

Hopefully people will set a crowdfunding page to support him if this is true.

[SkinnyPupp]

I can barely bring myself to read the news anymore. After seeing cops taking things to new extremes this week, we have another case of them importing another insane person from China to attack Hong Kongers

https://twitter.com/ilove_hk_er/status/1190983180431458305

https://twitter.com/joshuawongcf/status/1190963035906531329

https://twitter.com/poetryinstreet/status/1190961389843599361

https://i.imgur.com/tRAsKvp.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gzYX2oK.jpg

A district councilor had his EAR BITTEN OFF by this maniac, who was yelling "Hong Kong Belongs to China" which is the new battle cry of terrorists (the maniac who gutted the HKer handing out pamplets was yelling the same thing)

This occurred during one of the peaceful "human chain" demonstrations at a mall, while terrorists dressed as riot police entered and started attacking and kidnapping them

I'm sure some people here will feel happy about this, but it's... beyond fucked.

[Tim Budong]

terrorists tried to enter our estate but the security and district councillor stopped em
fucking right.

[Okami]

Are there pictures of the side of Andrew Chiu’s head not covered? I’m not saying this was staged but at this point I’m finding it hard to believe anything I see/read coming out of Hong Kong as both sides are gunning to make the other side look bad.

Like that Jimmy Sham attack. I’m a nurse, I’ve seen a simple fall against a wall cause major bleeds to the head and neurological deficits. Yet this guy apparently gets attacked by 4 dudes wielding hammers and the dude looks fine in a wheel chair the next day and is able to conduct interviews with the press.

Again.. don’t know what really happened or if it’s real or fake but unless I see a dude with his ear clearly off his head, or even a dude with slurred speech or something more than a bandage on his head, then I’m going to be more weary about that I read coming out of there.

[Tim Budong]

that same dude stabbed 4 people and 2 are in critical condition..what more do u want to know?

[bcedhk]

Are there pictures of the side of Andrew Chiu’s head not covered? I’m not saying this was staged but at this point I’m finding it hard to believe anything I see/read coming out of Hong Kong as both sides are gunning to make the other side look bad.

Like that Jimmy Sham attack. I’m a nurse, I’ve seen a simple fall against a wall cause major bleeds to the head and neurological deficits. Yet this guy apparently gets attacked by 4 dudes wielding hammers and the dude looks fine in a wheel chair the next day and is able to conduct interviews with the press.

Again.. don’t know what really happened or if it’s real or fake but unless I see a dude with his ear clearly off his head, or even a dude with slurred speech or something more than a bandage on his head, then I’m going to be more weary about that I read coming out of there.


There are plenty of videos already posted on facebook/ig group focused on the protest showing the mainlander going full mike tyson on him.

[SkinnyPupp]

Are there pictures of the side of Andrew Chiu’s head not covered? I’m not saying this was staged but at this point I’m finding it hard to believe anything I see/read coming out of Hong Kong as both sides are gunning to make the other side look bad.

Like that Jimmy Sham attack. I’m a nurse, I’ve seen a simple fall against a wall cause major bleeds to the head and neurological deficits. Yet this guy apparently gets attacked by 4 dudes wielding hammers and the dude looks fine in a wheel chair the next day and is able to conduct interviews with the press.

Again.. don’t know what really happened or if it’s real or fake but unless I see a dude with his ear clearly off his head, or even a dude with slurred speech or something more than a bandage on his head, then I’m going to be more weary about that I read coming out of there.
I have been disappointed in some people here. Like actually saddened by the idiocy I have seen on the last few pages. But you just outdid everyone. I can't even believe I am reading this. What even are you?

Fuck it.

[Snake Eyes]

Are there pictures of the side of Andrew Chiu’s head not covered? I’m not saying this was staged but at this point I’m finding it hard to believe anything I see/read coming out of Hong Kong as both sides are gunning to make the other side look bad.

Like that Jimmy Sham attack. I’m a nurse, I’ve seen a simple fall against a wall cause major bleeds to the head and neurological deficits. Yet this guy apparently gets attacked by 4 dudes wielding hammers and the dude looks fine in a wheel chair the next day and is able to conduct interviews with the press.

Again.. don’t know what really happened or if it’s real or fake but unless I see a dude with his ear clearly off his head, or even a dude with slurred speech or something more than a bandage on his head, then I’m going to be more weary about that I read coming out of there.

Don't blame you look at this video. They are caught smearing fake blood on themselves to fake injuries and blame the police. What's more disturbing it's right in front of paramedics. Then the guy with ice packs all over his head, apparently so injured he has to lay on the ground, miraculously gets up with a burst of energy trying to attack a person filming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZXoBZODsf4&t=9s

[6793026]

Again.. don’t know what really happened or if it’s real or fake but unless I see a dude with his ear clearly off his head, or even a dude with slurred speech or something more than a bandage on his head, then I’m going to be more weary about that I read coming out of there.

Police are being hard core violent. Whether they were taunt... sometimes... they are just doing their jobs. Some douche bags are pushing their limits and yeah, it's like a white cop chasing after a black man. Justified... not really.

As for protestors... i am bias, the ONLY news I see are people vandalizing day in and day out. Disrupting economy, breaking chain restaurants store fronts.... are never justified.

https://youtu.be/576FMJ_fmuk?t=1m32s

As to your request of video of the ear.. it's here.
https://youtu.be/hCmLmFxjcSk

[twdm]

https://cdn.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/d8/images/methode/2019/11/04/e6ee1430-fe33-11e9-b754-c2dd03eead3b_1320x770_100028.JPG
Well they sure as hell brought a lot of handpaint

[Okami]

Police are being hard core violent. Whether they were taunt... sometimes... they are just doing their jobs. Some douche bags are pushing their limits and yeah, it's like a white cop chasing after a black man. Justified... not really.

As for protestors... i am bias, the ONLY news I see are people vandalizing day in and day out. Disrupting economy, breaking chain restaurants store fronts.... are never justified.

https://youtu.be/576FMJ_fmuk?t=1m32s

As to your request of video of the ear.. it's here.
https://youtu.be/hCmLmFxjcSk

At which part of the video can I see that man without part of his ear? Sorry if I missed it. All I’m seeing is the video of the alleged bite and different angles of him covering his left ear and unobstructed views of his right side. You would think.. with so many reporters someone would’ve got that..

[Tim Budong]

At which part of the video can I see that man without part of his ear? Sorry if I missed it. All I’m seeing is the video of the alleged bite and different angles of him covering his left ear and unobstructed views of his right side. You would think.. with so many reporters someone would’ve got that..

there are photos of his ear on thread..:heckno:

[yray]

I am starting to think that the CCP is instigating this to get 2047 done earlier. Whole fucking protest has no leaders compared to the umbrella movement and shit gets nastier every day. What if the CCP is using lihkg to start shit so that hong kong would eventually collapse and be the perfect example of why a 1984 society is reasonable for the future of china.

#charlesincharge :troll:

[StylinRed]

Lots of fucked up shit since I was last in this thread

As for people doubting injuries, or posting vids of people rubbing blood on themselves... It's probably not understandable for westerners (skinny included) but faking injuries, blowing shit out of proportion, etc is the M.O. of Chinese ppl, regardless of their political stance

So it's not surprising that there will be instigators, and fakers, on both sides, and its a belief that both sides hold, so they will accuse the other of doing so.

Regardless tho, some things you just can't deny, like fractured skulls, and stab wounds, and missing ears... Seriously, give your heads a shake

[ssjGoku69]

CCP is sprinkling the crack

[SkinnyPupp]

Lots of fucked up shit since I was last in this thread

As for people doubting injuries, or posting vids of people rubbing blood on themselves... It's probably not understandable for westerners (skinny included) but faking injuries, blowing shit out of proportion, etc is the M.O. of Chinese ppl, regardless of their political stance

So it's not surprising that there will be instigators, and fakers, on both sides, and its a belief that both sides hold, so they will accuse the other of doing so.

Regardless tho, some things you just can't deny, like fractured skulls, and stab wounds, and missing ears... Seriously, give your heads a shake
It's very understandable that there will be morons trying to fake injuries.

However that has nothing to do with the actual injuries.

To the person who doubted Jimmy Sham's injuries because a hammer was used.. Let me take a hammer to your skull. I promise I will only hit you with a light tap. Just enough to split open your head and cause a concussion. I will then kick all your limbs while you lay on the ground concussed. Just enough to put you in the hospital for a few days, and leave you wheelchair bound for a month. If he can do it, you can too. You'l be fine, don't worry.

Badhobz was "willing" to back up his idiotic claims, let's see if you'll do the same. Hell we can use something other than a hammer if you want, although I think more force may be required to get your scalp to split open. Up to you

[pastarocket]

There is definitely no freedom of expression in HK now.

Damn cops pull a Porsche driver out of his car and arrest him for playing the protest anthem "Glory to Hong Kong".

:mad:

Skip to 1:17 of the video. You hear a little girl asking her Mom "Why is this happening, Mommy?" as those pigs are pulling the driver out of his 911. :facepalm:

https://youtu.be/E97PJcRwvwY

[SkinnyPupp]

There is definitely no freedom of expression in HK now.

Damn cops pull a Porsche driver out of his car and arrest him for playing the protest anthem "Glory to Hong Kong".

:mad:

Skip to 1:17 of the video. You hear a little girl asking her Mom "Why is this happening, Mommy?" as those pigs are pulling the driver out of his 911. :facepalm:

https://youtu.be/E97PJcRwvwY
There haven't even really been any big protests this week. Very few barricades, no vandalized stores, no molotovs or fire, no MTR vandalism.

The terrorists nonetheless have escalated their violence, harassment, arrests, and sexual abuse. They are going after citizens and press, anyone within their sight. Including seniors and children, they don't care.

This has been the worst week yet, and it's all from one side this time.

[SkinnyPupp]

Is this even a police officer? He just stormed off, breaking rank, and started swinging at random shoppers at a mall.

What the fuck is going on with these people? Are they being drugged?

https://twitter.com/ray_slowbeat/status/1191048668435976192

[Badhobz]

Where's those Western nations ? I don't even hear a peep about anybody supporting hongers from the US, UK, or even Canada.

This shit is fucking stupid. Everyone just go home.

[Hondaracer]

Where's those Western nations ? I don't even hear a peep about anybody supporting hongers from the US, UK, or even Canada.

This shit is fucking stupid. Everyone just go home.

HK is a world class city unlike some places, why would they need anyone’s help?

[hi-revs]

Hongkoners need to hit the streets and start drawing blood from these terrorists. Fuck those guys just taking down innocent ppl like that.
Need someone to go John Wick on these popo.

[Hondaracer]

After watching those videos I’d say it’s gonna take some Timothy mcveigh type shit to stop this and sway it to HK side, John wick ain’t gonna do it

[Mr.HappySilp]

After watching those videos I’d say it’s gonna take some Timothy mcveigh type shit to stop this and sway it to HK side, John wick ain’t gonna do it

https://youtu.be/6OR68gQgWDQ

This is what needs to happen.

[StylinRed]

Protester supporters hate hearing this, but it's true, A lot of the hkpf are probably demoralized, exhausted, with a high lvl of anxiety, to the point they're irrational, and out of control.

No police force, or military, faces daily battles, ridicule, n hate from all sides, especially for such an extended period, even US forces are rotated out, and when they're in a war zone, they're not even facing daily struggles like this.

HKPF likely doesn't have the numbers to rotate these ppl out, and even if they did, the psychological burden they're facing just being in HK wouldn't abate.

C. Lam likely won't ask the CCP for assistance, to give the hkpf a breather, so the HKPFs condition will just worsen, which will lead to more reckless/violent actions, which will lead to more hate from the public.

A scary downward cycle

[Amuse]

This thread has quieted down. So the protests are decreasing?

[BIC_BAWS]

This thread has quieted down. So the protests are decreasing?No, a University level protestor died after falling from the 3rd floor to the 2nd floor of a parkade. I suppose it's a moment of silence or Skinny is too busy dealing with the dating scam PMs.

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[Amuse]

No, a University level protestor died after falling from the 3rd floor to the 2nd floor of a parkade. I suppose it's a moment of silence or Skinny is too busy dealing with the dating scam PMs.

Reason for falling is still being investigated.

[SkinnyPupp]

Reason for falling is still being investigated.
Police first said that they weren't even in the parkade until after 1am. Then some dashcam footage came out, showing them there at 10pm. They said it was a mistake. After that came out, someone went and stole dashcams from many of the other cars parked in there. Someone is trying to get to the evidence - either the police or protesters.

Then the parkade owners (The Link - basically every lower end shopping mall and wet market is run by them) released all their parkade security footage. One shot quickly shows someone dressed all in black shoving the at protester as he tries to get away.

Police wouldn't let anyone near him after he fell. They blocked medics from attending to him, so it's possible that the delay in medical help led to his death.

They also fired tear gas into the area, against regulations (it should never be used in a closed space). It's possible that he felt he had to jump down a floor of the parkade in order to get away from tear gas.

This needs to be investigated by a third party.

Also more allegations of rape are coming out; a 16 year old had to have an abortion after being raped by 4 cops.

[Mr.HappySilp]

I know Skinny is always on the protest side but look what is happening over the past 2 weeks. Protestor destroying various shops (restaurants, bakery, MTR stations, banks, cell phone shops, shopping malls, 360). One dim sum place even try to reason with the protestor not to go in to the store and destroy but the protestor did not listen and went in to destroy it anyways when regular people are in there eating having dim sum.

You always claims these protestor are thugs hire by the police/CPP to make the protestor look bad when when the police came and arrest them using physically force (causing some of them to bleed) I don't think they are hire by the HKPD/CPP. Also more and more people are wearing black shirts, mask with weapons and is out there just looking to destroy things/blocking traffic and the HKPD is not even in that area yet. So I don't think HKPD escalate the violent in these cases.

The protestor who are causing all these violent should be arrested.

[hi-revs]

Also more allegations of rape are coming out; a 16 year old had to have an abortion after being raped by 4 cops.

Wtf

[Nokiss]

I wonder how much skinnypup gets paid to post on this forum

[Amuse]

I know Skinny is always on the protest side but look what is happening over the past 2 weeks. Protestor destroying various shops (restaurants, bakery, MTR stations, banks, cell phone shops, shopping malls, 360). One dim sum place even try to reason with the protestor not to go in to the store and destroy but the protestor did not listen and went in to destroy it anyways when regular people are in there eating having dim sum.

Are all these shops, banks, and that dim sum place state owned?

[SkinnyPupp]

Are all these shops, banks, and that dim sum place state owned?
They're all either state owned, triad owned, vocally pro-fascism, or the MTR which is used to deploy terrorism throughout the city

[threezero]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIOFWOQLBfk


Protestor shot point blank right in the stomach by HKPD. A traffic cop nonetheless….

Old dude on the sideline clapping….

[6793026]

They're all either state owned, triad owned, vocally pro-fascism, or the MTR which is used to deploy terrorism throughout the city
Doesn't matter who owned, doesn't justify violence. This has been beaten to death.


Police wouldn't let anyone near him after he fell. They blocked medics from attending to him, so it's possible that the delay in medical help led to his death.
Also more allegations of rape are coming out; a 16 year old had to have an abortion after being raped by 4 cops.

a) Thanks for pointing this out; never thought about this perspective. I didn't see any news on not allowing help. It might be the case. 100%. Still don't know why he fell. I can't tell what are real legit medics versus volunteer st. john medics anymore.

b) As for the rape by 4 cops... wtfffff, can you post this? I vaguely saw some reports on the radio but never actually saw any details. They did say there was this incident and being investigated by a senior ranking officer due to it being a high profile allegation. Would love to read up on this.

This thread has quieted down. So the protests are decreasing?

Man.. i wish..

Anyone watched this?
http://www.xuan.com.my/getattachment/c0fde674-59f2-4adf-b80f-6a463c5fc872/26.PNG.aspx

Chapman To was so loud and angry. At times he was too much to reason with.
Cliff notes:
-Chapman says to yes to independent investigation. Chan Pak-cheung says yes also; AFTER the riot dies down.
-Chapman agrees to ZERO tolerance and must arrest all protesters; Chan also agrees.
-Chapman was pissed about cops brutality; Chan says.. if you didn't start the riot, there wouldn't be any force needed. Huge chicken and the egg conflict debate.
-last part: Chapman didn't understand why are cops not showing the badge numbers; how the fuck do you expect people to identify the cops. There is no means way to tell from the mask. Chan answered: "Based on the time & date, the cop's schedule could / would righteously have a record and possibly identify cop(s) present. I thought it was a bit far fetched from Chans point of view. Nonetheless, Chapman did STFU after this explanation.

It was a decent debate as I thought it was monumental to see both at least agree / came close on SOME things.


Protestor shot point blank right in the stomach by HKPD. A traffic cop nonetheless….


FULLY justified. At any place on the planet (unless you're in UK / Japan, where cops aren't normally armed), if someone posses a threat (let alone attacking), cop has every right to protect him/herself. I do NOT see why people are so shocked.

[threezero]

FULLY justified. At any place on the planet (unless you're in UK / Japan, where cops aren't normally armed), if someone posses a threat (let alone attacking), cop has every right to protect him/herself. I do NOT see why people are so shocked.


Everybody including the kid in the video haven't thought about getting shot. Look at him stepping right up to the cop holding a gun to his face. See how nobody scatter after the shots. HK clearly does not have a gun culture. Until guns are use against a population, nobody expect the gun to be anything more than a warning.

[6793026]

https://www.facebook.com/yellowriver01/videos/10157766053232812/

For one I am FULLY MOFO mad, this is TOTALLY UNJUSTIFIED. How the fuck do you run people over with your motorcycle. This cop should die.... 唔洗獨立調查；立刻捉去打啦

[SkinnyPupp]

That wasn't the only shooting in the past few hours.

https://twitter.com/MandyLeeDUBHKG/status/1193709045682786304

"Police" have been let off the leash today

https://twitter.com/jeffielam/status/1193695007963660289

Expect many more murders at the hands of these terrorists

[SkinnyPupp]

Did you expect to see someone performing an arrest on a dead body today?

https://twitter.com/KerCPang/status/1193690825483378689

[StylinRed]

Jesus christ wtf

Oh that's the same guy that was shot in the above video, but wow wtf

[yray]

here comes the popcan bombs


they gone full retard

[Okami]

Dudes alive.. he looked really pale and dead.. and then all of sudden perked up and tried to run

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/anti_elab/status/1193724928823939072

I was there yesterday buying groceries. This gives me chills

I saw 6 riot cops show up at the mall nearby yesterday right as I was getting on the bus. No protesters in the area, but they all showed up, shields in hand. Everyone just watched nervously and I got the fuck outta there.

[SkinnyPupp]

FULLY justified. At any place on the planet (unless you're in UK / Japan, where cops aren't normally armed), if someone posses a threat (let alone attacking), cop has every right to protect him/herself. I do NOT see why people are so shocked.

No. The cop walked TOWARDS the protesters, despite being outnumbered. He wasn't being attacked, they were trying to get him to walk away. He put HIMSELF in danger, with the intent to use his firearm on them. He fucking grabbed a civilian like he was a fucking hostage, and shot the person who was trying to break it up.

If you don't think people should be shocked by a cop walking TOWARDS a hostile crowd with a loaded gun, instead of backing off when given the chance to do so, you're... I don;'t know what you are. I don't think you're stupid, but think about it a bit more. Watch the damn video. This 100% could have been avoided simply by walking AWAY instead of TOWARDS the protesters. This is one of the cases where tear gas and pepper spray would have been justified if they need to disperse the crowd. Not some fucking cowboy walking in there grabbing hostages and shooting at people.

Next you'll tell me that if the cop who drove his bike into the crowd had been unseated and attacked, he'd be in the right for shooting people there too.

[Okami]

And what about the protesters? Are they supposed to walk away before or after they leave a bunch of shit on the streets blocking the road?

[SkinnyPupp]

And what about the protesters? Are they supposed to walk away before or after they leave a bunch of shit on the streets blocking the road?
They're protesting :seriously:

[threezero]

No. The cop walked TOWARDS the protesters, despite being outnumbered. He wasn't being attacked, they were trying to get him to walk away. He put HIMSELF in danger, with the intent to use his firearm on them. He fucking grabbed a civilian like he was a fucking hostage, and shot the person who was trying to break it up.

If you don't think people should be shocked by a cop walking TOWARDS a hostile crowd with a loaded gun, instead of backing off when given the chance to do so, you're... I don;'t know what you are. I don't think you're stupid, but think about it a bit more. Watch the damn video. This 100% could have been avoided simply by walking AWAY instead of TOWARDS the protesters. This is one of the cases where tear gas and pepper spray would have been justified if they need to disperse the crowd. Not some fucking cowboy walking in there grabbing hostages and shooting at people.

Next you'll tell me that if the cop who drove his bike into the crowd had been unseated and attacked, he'd be in the right for shooting people there too.

Completely agree with Skinny on this one. Out of all the incident that someone could of been shot.

This is the most avoidable and tame situation.

Po literally reacted to the white hoodie kid yelling DLNM at him. Flip the fuck out and shot a weaponless kid.

He didn't even catch the white hoodie kid.

[Mr.HappySilp]

Are all these shops, banks, and that dim sum place state owned?

Doesn't matter they are just doing business nothing more. Just cause they are state owned it could be a franchise so really is the owner of these shops that these protestor are hurting. Since the shops are damage they can't be open so the people who they employed (I would assume they hire mostly Hongers) So by destroying these shops the protestor are actually hurting the people of Hong Kong. Also damaging MTR station you are really putting every Hongers who takes use the MTR coz the stations are closes and MTR is force to stop service early.

[Amuse]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIOFWOQLBfk


Protestor shot point blank right in the stomach by HKPD. A traffic cop nonetheless….

Old dude on the sideline clapping….
These are not rubber bullets right?

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/pakwayne/status/1193757684610191360

Police tear gassing a banker/white collar lunch break rally in Central. Usually they leave these alone, but they are completely unhinged today. Lots of people caught up in it just going about their day

https://twitter.com/sapphireoo7/status/1193753311335215104

Tear gas deployed in school playgrounds, students evacuated. Schools are all closed, trying to get kids home under this terrorist attack

[bobbinka]

Shows a few extra seconds before the gunshot:

https://streamable.com/0pexa

Entire 10 minute video (above vid starts at 2:00):

https://streamable.com/8xdi6

[Razor Ramon HG]

No doubt the cop fucked up there, but it also wasn't exactly the wisest decision for the dude to try to swat or grab the cop's gun.

[SkinnyPupp]

No doubt the cop fucked up there, but it also wasn't exactly the wisest decision for the dude to try to swat or grab the cop's gun.
That goes without saying (like really)

[Razor Ramon HG]

That goes without saying (like really)

Everyone is saying the situation could've been avoided if the cop walked away. Same could be said if the other two protesters in black stood back the moment a gun was drawn.

I think the blame goes both ways in this situation.

[EmperorIS]

Shits about to escalate. Stay safe Hong Kong. Cops are going even more nuts now. They’re pretty much going around beating up anyone they suspect. Cops are purposely going around trying to stir up people to arrest them.

[6793026]

"The naked body of a 15-year-old girl was found off Tseung Kwan O shores. Protesters quickly concluded, as they do with practically every body found that was not immediately identified, that she was the victim of a police murder."
Then after people did some research the mom finally came out and sayid “I want to clarify this, she took her own life instead of being killed,” Ho said.

This is the latest rape complaint.

"HONG KONG LAW & CRIME POLITICS & PROTEST Woman files complaint against Hong Kong police over alleged rape in station"

Can we believe South China Morning Post? or do we believe Yahoo news? or do we believe HK free press. I gotta see who this plays out.

[SkinnyPupp]

Everyone is saying the situation could've been avoided if the cop walked away. Same could be said if the other two protesters in black stood back the moment a gun was drawn.

I think the blame goes both ways in this situation.
No, the blame goes to the one who ran in with a fucking gun. The one that is supposed to keep peace. Fucking god dammit man, this is beyond victim blaming.

[SkinnyPupp]

Some crazy fuck started chasing after some vandalizers in an MTR station, taking it upon himself to arrest them (I guess?). One of them poured lighter fluid on him and lit him on fire.

If you come across the video, please don't post it here. Post it in the gore thread.

Also fuck everyone and everything

[SkinnyPupp]

"The naked body of a 15-year-old girl was found off Tseung Kwan O shores. Protesters quickly concluded, as they do with practically every body found that was not immediately identified, that she was the victim of a police murder."
Then after people did some research the mom finally came out and sayid “I want to clarify this, she took her own life instead of being killed,” Ho said.

This is the latest rape complaint.

"HONG KONG LAW & CRIME POLITICS & PROTEST Woman files complaint against Hong Kong police over alleged rape in station"

Can we believe South China Morning Post? or do we believe Yahoo news? or do we believe HK free press. I gotta see who this plays out.
BTW that girl's mom hasn't been heard from in a while, and rumors are she committed suicide this weekend

[Fafine]

Some crazy fuck started chasing after some vandalizers in an MTR station, taking it upon himself to arrest them (I guess?). One of them poured lighter fluid on him and lit him on fire.

If you come across the video, please don't post it here. Post it in the gore thread.

Also fuck everyone and everything

just watched... ppl getting crazy

[Razor Ramon HG]

No, the blame goes to the one who ran in with a fucking gun. The one that is supposed to keep peace. Fucking god dammit man, this is beyond victim blaming.

I'm not saying the blame lies solely on the victim, but c'mon.. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to not back the fuck up if you see a cop has his gun out.

If it was any other thread, all of RS would be saying something along the lines of - "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."

I know that you live in HK and see this on a more personal level, but you really have to view these situations objectively.

BTW that girl's mom hasn't been heard from in a while, and rumors are she committed suicide this weekend

There's a photo of it going around already. Looks like a jump, but no cracked skull or blood. Clearly planted.

Supposedly looks like Chan Yin Lam's mom.

(NSFL) - Twitter link in the spoiler tags.

https://tinyurl.com/razetf5

[Razor Ramon HG]

Some crazy fuck started chasing after some vandalizers in an MTR station, taking it upon himself to arrest them (I guess?). One of them poured lighter fluid on him and lit him on fire.

The Chinese news outlet are going to have a field day with that video.

[SkinnyPupp]

I'm not saying the blame lies solely on the victim, but c'mon.. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to not back the fuck up if you see a cop has his gun out.

If it was any other thread, all of RS would be saying something along the lines of - "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."

I know that you live in HK and see this on a more personal level, but you really have to view these situations objectively.


If you look at it as objectively as possible, my previous post and threezero's post explains it pretty well. Was it "stupid" to swat at the gun when he was holding his friend hostage? Yes!

Now think if you were in a country under constant attack by terrorists, and one of them runs at you and your friends with a gun, holds one of your friends hostage, and points his gun at you. Would you swat at a terrorist's gun? It's definitely a good way to get yourself shot. But you might just do the "stupid" thing and try to rescue your friend. Who's to say?

[StylinRed]

Now think if you were in a country under constant attack by terrorists, and one of them runs at you and your friends with a gun, holds one of your friends hostage, and points his gun at you. Would you swat at a terrorist's gun? It's definitely a good way to get yourself shot. But you might just do the "stupid" thing and try to rescue your friend. Who's to say?

Let's not try to exaggerate the situation in HK :rukidding:

Shows a few extra seconds before the gunshot:

https://streamable.com/0pexa

Entire 10 minute video (above vid starts at 2:00):

https://streamable.com/8xdi6

8:25 for when he gets up and tries to run away

[SkinnyPupp]

Let's not try to exaggerate the situation in HK :rukidding:



8:25 for when he gets up and tries to run away
OK first of all, I am only really trying to give people here the perception that is held by HK people. This is why I take issue with the statement that I am "100% for the protesters". I've said it before, I am not pro-protester. I am pro-liberty, pro-freedom, pro-self-determination. Anti-terrorism, anti-fascism, anti-totalitarian.

So you might think it's ridiculous to call the police officers terrorists. Maybe the only stuff you see from Hong Kong is the stuff I post (and I only post about a tenth of what I see, and that's not even taking into account the BS fake shit I see) and you can dismiss most of it as "playing stupid games". Maybe you think when a cop drives his motorcycle into a crowd, running down protesters, you might think "they were playing stupid games", and it's their fault for not hiding in fear when police are around. I know some people here are thinking that (and thankfully they are keeping it to themselves)

Anyway, to most average HK citizens, the police force have turned into a terrorist force.

So it's important that I give RazorRamon the perception that is being held by this protester. Maybe RR sees all this footage, and thinks they are just regular cops who "maybe got a bit overzealous". Everyone else sees a terrorist group that is using violence and intimidation against them, in the pursuit of political aims.

So to put RR in that perspective, I ask him to imagine a similar situation - Canada is under attack by terrorists. He could stay home and "put his head down" and make money, and maybe that's what he'd do. Or maybe he'd be out there taking part in anti-terrorist actions any way he could. Either way, one comes at him with a gun, takes his friend hostage. The option is to fight the terrorist, or run. This guy chose to fight, and paid the price for it. Does that mean he's to blame? Would you do the same in that situation? Before placing blame on the person who was shot by a cop who ran into a crowd with a gun and took a hostage, at least think from his point of view for a second or two.

[SkinnyPupp]

Good on the police (or more cynically, they couldn't find a way to twist it since the evidence was so blatant)

https://twitter.com/jimcyf/status/1193805243194044416

[SkinnyPupp]

b) As for the rape by 4 cops... wtfffff, can you post this? I vaguely saw some reports on the radio but never actually saw any details. They did say there was this incident and being investigated by a senior ranking officer due to it being a high profile allegation. Would love to read up on this.


Statement from her lawyer:

https://twitter.com/XinqiSu/status/1193854756747268096

Police are leaking details about her and trying to discredit her already.

We can only hope that justice prevails here, but who knows

[Nlkko]

I know Skinny is always on the protest side but look what is happening over the past 2 weeks. Protestor destroying various shops (restaurants, bakery, MTR stations, banks, cell phone shops, shopping malls, 360). One dim sum place even try to reason with the protestor not to go in to the store and destroy but the protestor did not listen and went in to destroy it anyways when regular people are in there eating having dim sum.

You always claims these protestor are thugs hire by the police/CPP to make the protestor look bad when when the police came and arrest them using physically force (causing some of them to bleed) I don't think they are hire by the HKPD/CPP. Also more and more people are wearing black shirts, mask with weapons and is out there just looking to destroy things/blocking traffic and the HKPD is not even in that area yet. So I don't think HKPD escalate the violent in these cases.

The protestor who are causing all these violent should be arrested.

This thread is basically one dude posting Honger propaganda. Anything slightly against these clowns, the tin-foil hat go on with undercover, secret police starting shit. Anybody not on protesters' side are treated as stupid.

[Okami]

If I could have this man’s babies.. I would..

[Badhobz]

Lots are already coming to Vancouver driving up property values. Looks like the 1-2 million dollar range are affected the most.

[yray]

Lots are already coming to Vancouver driving up our property values. Looks like the 1-2 million dollar range are affected the most.

better go to hk to buy some properties

[SkinnyPupp]

This thread is basically one dude posting Honger propaganda. Anything slightly against these clowns, the tin-foil hat go on with undercover, secret police starting shit. Anybody not on protesters' side are treated as stupid.
Sorry, but if you think that, you are stupid. I'm just telling it like it is. Almost all the tweets I post are from writers at large news orgs, like AP, SCMP, HKFP, etc. If you think I post "propaganda" then you are really too stupid to know what propaganda is, and you have probably fallen for it yourself.

I come across a LOT of bullshit propaganda from both sides, and I filter out that crap and post the useful stuff here. For the benefit of people who still have free thought (obviously not you or the clowns who upvoted you). I actually think you guys don't deserve this service, but I do it anyway, because I know there are a lot of lurkers and people who aren't like you who do benefit from it.

As I've said before, I'm not pro-protesters. I am for liberty, self determination. I am pro HK, I am pro China.

Edit: I do admit that I tend to use inflammatory language, and I am prone to hyperbole at times. I'll try to keep that in check in the future, but I hope people can understand my situation in regards to that kind of stuff. From now on I'll let a post sit for a few minutes before hitting submit.

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/rustandwithhk/status/1194046197729763329

Alleged police officer speaks out on Korean documentary

[Amuse]

https://twitter.com/PHancocksCNN/status/1194030819448213504

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/PHancocksCNN/status/1194030819448213504
Oh they're definitely disrupting the commute. My wife was stuck on the MTR for over an hour. Eventually they closed all the stations and now she's waiting for someone to pick her up. It's been an anxious and frustrating morning (and I told her not to take the MTR but that's an "I told you so" I'll only post here LUL )

I will note that despite this protester action, police have been pretty restrained this morning. I've yet to see any footage of shootings or beatings (although there's a video of some fat riot cop taunting people telling them to try stealing his gun). Although tear gas was used, it was shot to disperse, rather than shooting at kindergarten schools, citizens and press, or firing from a moving vehicle.

[J____]

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[chinese-boi]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comments/dv5b3q/hong_kong_police_attack_pregnant_woman/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[CP.AR]

what the fuck is going on tonight.
All i hear are sirens.

Tuen mun is on fire.
Tai Po is on fire.
CUHK is on Fire.

dllm go to bed.
everyone just go home, rub one out and go to bed.

[jackmeister]

This thread is basically one dude posting Honger propaganda. Anything slightly against these clowns, the tin-foil hat go on with undercover, secret police starting shit. Anybody not on protesters' side are treated as stupid.

I wrote something a few weeks ago and he just something along the lines of "you'll get support from the usuals". Can't even have a dissenting opinion. Much like the protesters beating up people w/ a different view, except over RS.

[SkinnyPupp]

All buses are shut down, MTR is barely moving (edit: stations are starting to close now). The city is basically shut down today, after police besieged CUHK overnight (one of the top 60 universities in the world apparently)

I don't even know what the point of the siege is... Like all the police needed to do was turn around and go home and what would have happened? The students would just be there, protesting. :fulloffuck:

[SkinnyPupp]

I wrote something a few weeks ago and he just something along the lines of "you'll get support from the usuals". Can't even have a dissenting opinion. Much like the protesters beating up people w/ a different view, except over RS.
Stop trying to make this thread about me. If you want to support fascism, go ahead. It's a free country LUL

[SkinnyPupp]

All schools closed for the rest of the week. CUHK has cancelled their semester completely. Wife and sister couldn't get to work today, so they both stayed home. They'll try again tomorrow, but who knows?

Police still stopping and searching random students, even young kids in school uniforms. They are arresting and beating up people in "illegal assemblies" since being in groups is now illegal in Hong Kong. Carrie Lam continues to spout bullshit, calling protesters enemies of the state.

I'd say that it's coming to a head, but this will continue until either the government is disbanded, or they literally roll tanks in and do Tianmen 2.0, killing hundreds or thousands of people. Not just students this time, teachers, doctors, lawyers, bankers, everyone.

For China to succeed in their mission, they will have to kill almost every single person in Hong Kong. Either that, or listen to their demands (which are already written into law and being ignored)

[Ferra]

I'd say that it's coming to a head, but this will continue until either the government is disbanded, or they literally roll tanks in and do Tianmen 2.0, killing hundreds or thousands of people. Not just students this time, teachers, doctors, lawyers, bankers, everyone.

For China to succeed in their mission, they will have to kill almost every single person in Hong Kong. Either that, or listen to their demands (which are already written into law and being ignored)
pretty sure they will just wait and watch, why step in and give everyone a common enemy to hate on?
Hong Kong financial infrastructure is important to CCPC as a gateway, but they dont' give a fuck if you want to burn your own city to the ground.

As long as those financial infrastructures are still intact. Banking is not disrupted, money are still flowing thru, and stock markets are still open, they will probably let this shit show keep on going.

[twdm]

pretty sure they will just wait and watch, why step in and give everyone a common enemy to hate on?
Hong Kong financial infrastructure is important to CCPC as a gateway, but they dont' give a fuck if you want to burn your own city to the ground.

As long as those financial infrastructures are still intact. Banking is not disrupted, money are still flowing thru, and stock markets are still open, they will probably let this shit show keep on going.

Do you think banking will be unaffected if this keeps on going?

[SumAznGuy]

Side note, I wonder if they organizers will cancel the HK Marathon.
It is scheduled for Feb 9th.

[twdm]

Does Beijing want to create another Tibet/Xinjiang? Because this is how you do it.

I don't want to say I told you so, but I predicted this shit in June. This government and the CCP only knows how to govern the sheep in the mainland. Once people have independent thought, they become completely clueless.

[CP.AR]

1:11AM

It's been quiet where I live today. The rest of HK however, is pretty much on fire.
Another protestor has been suspected of "being thrown down a building" in Tsuen Wan, and has died as a result of his injuries a few moments ago.

more photo evidence popped up with HKP riot gear making an appearance in one of the PLA garrisons.

Carrie Lam just held a meeting with a few select members of the government. The rumour is that a curfew is going to be imposed and the district elections are going to be cancelled.

Good luck to those who are still in HK.
I'm scared of sleeping in that I will wake up to a nightmare (it's close enough already as it is)

edit:
CUHK has suspended all classes and ended the semester prematurely

[SumAznGuy]

1:11AM

It's been quiet where I live today. The rest of HK however, is pretty much on fire.
Another protestor has been suspected of "being thrown down a building" in Tsuen Wan, and has died as a result of his injuries a few moments ago.

more photo evidence popped up with HKP riot gear making an appearance in one of the PLA garrisons.

Carrie Lam just held a meeting with a few select members of the government. The rumour is that a curfew is going to be imposed and the district elections are going to be cancelled.

Good luck to those who are still in HK.
I'm scared of sleeping in that I will wake up to a nightmare (it's close enough already as it is)

friend just told me about the person dying. hopefully there is more news on it.

[highfive]

I hold the police to a higher standard but fuck the protestors are not that much better.

Vandalizing, blocking traffic, throwing shit on the highway and mtr.

Setting shit on fire. Setting a person on fire. Breaking into places. Destroying any businesses who speaks against them. Spray paint in your face. Rip your clothes off. Hit you with a tennis racket.

Beating people up on the streets. Hitting a woman who's walking away. Beating up mainlanders who works in Hong Kong. Beating up mainlanders who goes to school in Hong Kong. Attacking police. Trying to use a knife and slash at the police officer's neck. Charging towards police. (Like how that guy got shot. You try rushing towards a cop with a gun anywhere else in the world, it's not just one bullet, it's bullets till you drop dead on the ground).

Police are wrong in their own conducts but fuck sakes this went from one extradition law to this piece of shit.

I don't think there is going to be curfew. I don't think the HKPF is capable of policing that. The same people are still going to roam the streets and they don't have the manpower arrest all of them.

[Ch28]

The problem with the protesters nowadays are that they could very well be completely infiltrated and you would have no idea.

[yray]

piss off bankers... bankers short china :lawl:

they can pull curfew, you have all the disciplined forces out, curfew definitely doable

[ssjGoku69]

There are a lot of videos on /r/sino that show a different POV than /r/hongkong such as protesters or "protesters" being complete dicks and being excessively violent.

It makes the whole movement seem more muddy than black&white. Disheartening that these baddy protesters are screwing it up for the rest of HK citizens.

[EmperorIS]

I think the legit protestors should've done more to condemn the violence by the extreme protestors. Right now it seems like the protestors think they should get a free pass to do whatever they want regardless of its impact because they are fighting in the name of freedom, but once something happens to them, they cry foul and act all innocent.

[SkinnyPupp]

I hold the police to a higher standard but fuck the protestors are not that much better.

Vandalizing, blocking traffic, throwing shit on the highway and mtr.

Setting shit on fire. Setting a person on fire. Breaking into places. Destroying any businesses who speaks against them. Spray paint in your face. Rip your clothes off. Hit you with a tennis racket.

Beating people up on the streets. Hitting a woman who's walking away. Beating up mainlanders who works in Hong Kong. Beating up mainlanders who goes to school in Hong Kong. Attacking police. Trying to use a knife and slash at the police officer's neck. Charging towards police. (Like how that guy got shot. You try rushing towards a cop with a gun anywhere else in the world, it's not just one bullet, it's bullets till you drop dead on the ground).

Police are wrong in their own conducts but fuck sakes this went from one extradition law to this piece of shit.

I don't think there is going to be curfew. I don't think the HKPF is capable of policing that. The same people are still going to roam the streets and they don't have the manpower arrest all of them.
I agree, they should just continue to do peaceful marches. When the cops show up with pepper spray and tear gas, purposefully aiming at heads, shooting eyes out, and cracking their skulls open with batons, they should just go home and maybe try again the next day. That will definitely be effective. SeemsGood

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/lukedepulford/status/1194577640331628545

Possible that BNO passport holders will be able to GTFO is HK is invaded and conquered. Good for them!

[SkinnyPupp]

Looks like transportation is shut down again. Harbor crossing closed, most buses not running. My wife is getting ready for work but I told her to wait and see what happens with the MTR. Her sister is out there now, MTR is barely moving and now cops are telling people to get off the train before it crosses harbor, so she'll have to make her way home now.

3 days in a row, city shut down.

[SkinnyPupp]

This is worth reading IMO

https://twitter.com/XinqiSu/status/1194570790756159490

[trd2343]

I agree, they should just continue to do peaceful marches. When the cops show up with pepper spray and tear gas, purposefully aiming at heads, shooting eyes out, and cracking their skulls open with batons, they should just go home and maybe try again the next day. That will definitely be effective. SeemsGood

So a while back you defended the protester’s actions saying they are instigated by cops or they are undercover cop pretending to be protesters. Now you are defending their actions saying it is the only way to effectively get what they want or their message across? Kind of hard to take you seriously when you say you aren’t pro-protester.

By the way, the video that you posted where you said a protester was taking hostage by a cop, I’m not sure if I would call that taking hostage. The guy literally walked towards the cop, all the way to where the cops gun is pointed at his chest. I can’t comment whether the cops action is justified, but if a cop draw a gun on me, my first action definitely won’t be to walk right up to it.

[SkinnyPupp]

So a while back you defended the protester’s actions saying they are instigated by cops or they are undercover cop pretending to be protesters. Now you are defending their actions saying it is the only way to effectively get what they want or their message across? Kind of hard to take you seriously when you say you aren’t pro-protester.

By the way, the video that you posted where you said a protester was taking hostage by a cop, I’m not sure if I would call that taking hostage. The guy literally walked towards the cop, all the way to where the cops gun is pointed at his chest. I can’t comment whether the cops action is justified, but if a cop draw a gun on me, my first action definitely won’t be to walk right up to it.
I'm saying, what is your alternative? They can't peacefully protest, they literally aren't allowed to. They can't assemble, it's illegal now. They can't wear masks, it's illegal now. They can't walk in groups, they can't go to school in groups. They can't even play basketball. They can't go for lunch during work. Cops attack and harass them at any given time. Doesn't matter if they're wearing black or a business suit or a school uniform. Carrie Lam said they have no stake in society. She said protesters are the enemy of "the people".

So that didn't work. What's the next step? Disrupt the city. Push it one step further. If they didn't listen to peace, maybe they will listen to money.

They are trying to get something done, forcing the government's hand. Either make the government actually negotiate the demands (many of which are already written into law but are being ignored), or make them invade with military force. Either way, sitting around bashing MTR and triad store windows wasn't enough, so they started disrupting the whole city.

Do I like it? Of course not.It's disrupting my life and the lives of many people. Do I understand it? Of course I do! They are fighting for their future. All I have to do is stop and think, what if I were them. Not enough people do that, we saw it in the Don Cherry thread as well. I don't know why so many people here lack the ability to empathize with people who are in worse conditions than they are. Maybe they just don't care. And that's fine, but if you don't care, you shouldn't be arguing against them. If you want to argue, at least have an open mind, and try to think from the perspective of the oppressed.

[trd2343]

I'm saying, what is your alternative? They can't peacefully protest, they literally aren't allowed to. They can't assemble, it's illegal now. They can't wear masks, it's illegal now. They can't walk in groups, they can't go to school in groups. They can't even play basketball. They can't go for lunch during work. Cops attack and harass them at any given time. Doesn't matter if they're wearing black or a business suit or a school uniform. Carrie Lam said they have no stake in society. She said protesters are the enemy of "the people".

So that didn't work. What's the next step? Disrupt the city. Push it one step further. If they didn't listen to peace, maybe they will listen to money.

They are trying to get something done, forcing the government's hand. Either make the government actually negotiate the demands (many of which are already written into law but are being ignored), or make them invade with military force. Either way, sitting around bashing MTR and triad store windows wasn't enough, so they started disrupting the whole city.

Do I like it? Of course not.It's disrupting my life and the lives of many people. Do I understand it? Of course I do! They are fighting for their future. All I have to do is stop and think, what if I were them. Not enough people do that, we saw it in the Don Cherry thread as well. I don't know why so many people here lack the ability to empathize with people who are in worse conditions than they are. Maybe they just don't care. And that's fine, but if you don't care, you shouldn't be arguing against them. If you want to argue, at least have an open mind, and try to think from the perspective of the oppressed.

You're absolutely right this thread isn't about anyone in particular, but it kind of went that way when you constantly criticized people from the beginning who don't see the objective of the protest, or who can't see this ending well, accomplishing anything significant, or moving in a positive direction.

You were one of the few (or the one) who advocates for a peaceful protest and defended their actions, but now it seems you advocate for more aggressiveness? Kind of seems like you're going back on your own words.

edit:

I feel bad for the people living in Hong Kong. At this point, I'm not sure if fighting for what is right is equal to what is best for the people there.

[highfive]

I agree, they should just continue to do peaceful marches. When the cops show up with pepper spray and tear gas, purposefully aiming at heads, shooting eyes out, and cracking their skulls open with batons, they should just go home and maybe try again the next day. That will definitely be effective. SeemsGood

Yes, I believe that's the only way. This lawlessness they're creating is only allowing the police to act more and more aggressively.

Remember, Hong Kong belongs to everyone. It belongs to Carrie, it belongs to the police, it belongs to the protestors, it belongs to every other citizens who've been affected by it. Hell, it belongs to SkinnyPupp. It's everyone's home.

The goal of a peaceful protest to to win the hearts of everyone that what you're fighting for is worth dying for. You hope from top to bottom, everyone will begin to see that what these young people are striving for is for the greater good of Hong Kong. Not fucking trashing MTR where everyday ordinary citizens requires to use in order to make a living. The fucking rich and powerful doesn't use the MTR.

Lastly, killing Hong Kong's economy won't do anyone good. If China is the one in the way, do you actually thinks China cares about Hong Kong? It's a matter of time a Chinese city will replace Hong Kong's importance. The historic importance of Hong Kong as a port city is already being replaced with the ports in the pearl delta.

[yray]

Lastly, killing Hong Kong's economy won't do anyone good. If China is the one in the way, do you actually thinks China cares about Hong Kong? It's a matter of time a Chinese city will replace Hong Kong's importance. The historic importance of Hong Kong as a port city is already being replaced with the ports in the pearl delta.

it's already gone that way, that's why there are no fucks given

[SkinnyPupp]

You're absolutely right this thread isn't about anyone in particular, but it kind of went that way when you constantly criticized people from the beginning who don't see the objective of the protest, or who can't see this ending well, accomplishing anything significant, or moving in a positive direction.

You were one of the few (or the one) who advocates for a peaceful protest and defended their actions, but now it seems you advocate for more aggressiveness? Kind of seems like you're going back on your own words.

edit:

I feel bad for the people living in Hong Kong. At this point, I'm not sure if fighting for what is right is equal to what is best for the people there.
I'm not advocating anything, I'm explaining why people are doing what they're doing. I'm trying to get people to see from different perspectives, since like I said, I think many people here lack that ability (or refuse to use it), which is shocking to me as a Canadian.

You can either agree or disagree with their actions, as can I. There's not much to be said though, other than "I disagree" unless you can say "they should do it this way, and here's why it will work"

Like when I report that people think cops were behind some of the first vandalism attacks, that's all I was doing - reporting it. I'm not saying I think it was cops (though I always acknowledged the possibility). Or when all these suicide bodies turn up, a lot of people say they are covered up murders. I think that is much less possible, but I'm going to put the info out there. When I refer to cops as terrorists, I am referring to the specific few that are terrorising citizens.

I absolutely wish none of this was happening. I wish the HKSAR would continue to run as "one country, two systems". I wish people could elect their own lawmakers and leaders, and run HK autonomically but WITH China for obvious reasons. Going further, I wish the people of mainland China would eventually get the same rights, and maybe unite with ROC with those rights. Be a world leader with freedom and human rights, and in science and climate change technology, because currently that's all America and they aren't exactly a perfect example of these things. Those are MY opinions, not even talking about police brutality, vandalism and rioting, crazy mainlanders biting ears off and gutting people, or extremist protesters lighting fascists on fire.

[6793026]

I can't see it being a curfew; it's only a certain areas affected. Just like people complaining why do people not get notice on school shutdowns earlier like typhoons? Well.. typhoons affect ENTIRE HK, these "protests" are only affecting core areas which happens to be 10% of HK.

My uncle got stuck in his car for 7 hours from 11PM - 5 AM trying to get home. My buddies who were hammered after a night of partying at LKF is fucked and slept at a bar until 7 AM still trying to get home.

[highfive]

I'm not advocating anything, I'm explaining why people are doing what they're doing. I'm trying to get people to see from different perspectives, since like I said, I think many people here lack that ability (or refuse to use it), which is shocking to me as a Canadian.

You can either agree or disagree with their actions, as can I. There's not much to be said though, other than "I disagree" unless you can say "they should do it this way, and here's why it will work"

Like when I report that people think cops were behind some of the first vandalism attacks, that's all I was doing - reporting it. I'm not saying I think it was cops (though I always acknowledged the possibility). Or when all these suicide bodies turn up, a lot of people say they are covered up murders. I think that is much less possible, but I'm going to put the info out there. When I refer to cops as terrorists, I am referring to the specific few that are terrorising citizens.

I absolutely wish none of this was happening. I wish the HKSAR would continue to run as "one country, two systems". I wish people could elect their own lawmakers and leaders, and run HK autonomically but WITH China for obvious reasons. Going further, I wish the people of mainland China would eventually get the same rights, and maybe unite with ROC with those rights. Be a world leader with freedom and human rights, and in science and climate change technology, because currently that's all America and they aren't exactly a perfect example of these things. Those are MY opinions, not even talking about police brutality, vandalism and rioting, crazy mainlanders biting ears off and gutting people, or extremist protesters lighting fascists on fire.

See, this is where you get yourself in trouble. How do you know that person is a fascist? It's one person who disagrees with a group of protesters? How does lighting someone on fire not crazy but an extremist?

Might as well replace "you people" with in referencing to this. lol You people biting this group of "you people" lighting fire on certain "you people".

[SkinnyPupp]

See, this is where you get yourself in trouble. How do you know that person is a fascist? It's one person who disagrees with a group of protesters? How does lighting someone on fire not crazy but an extremist?

Might as well replace "you people" with in referencing to this. lol You people biting this group of "you people" lighting fire on certain "you people".
This guy in particular was trying to block protesters from vandalising an MTR station, chasing after them and fighting with them. He later said they are "not chinese" (a common slogan used by pro communists and mainland fascists) and they were "trying to be british" (a xenophobic slur).

If he was simply disagreeing with them, saying that they are going too far with protests, then I wouldn't call him a fascist. However, he took things his own hands physically, arguing pro communist slogans and xenophobic slurs. That's why I called him a fascist. He's a fascist.

There are several others going against protesters, trying to clear roadblocks and brick piles. I don't call them fascists, because they aren't making political statements. Some of them probably just want to get to work and ignore any issues, etc. I still think it's a bad idea for them to do so, but I don't assume they are pro-fascism just because they're clearing bricks.

[StylinRed]

Mass sit ins is what they should be doing, skip work too, bring the city to an actual standstill, if you get beat, you get beat, it will actually win over the hearts of everyone globally, if you fight back, or try to murder police, or ppl who disagree with you, you get what we have today (nothing)

Except gingers don't really want to skip work, sure ppl in Central will protest during lunch, everyone else will protest on the weekends, students will protest all the time, cuz they get to skip school... what message does that send to the gov't? Nothing

Look at Palestine v Israel, it's been going on for decades, does the world care? Sort of, not really though

Palestinians fight back, what happens? Everyones like oh /shrug it's their fault for fighting (most of rs takes this stance)

[SkinnyPupp]

Mass sit ins is what they should be doing, skip work too, bring the city to an actual standstill, if you get beat, you get beat, it will actually win over the hearts of everyone globally, if you fight back, or try to murder police, or ppl who disagree with you, you get what we have today (nothing)

Except gingers don't really want to skip work, sure ppl in Central will protest during lunch, everyone else will protest on the weekends, students will protest all the time, cuz they get to skip school... what message does that send to the gov't? Nothing

Look at Palestine v Israel, it's been going on for decades, does the world care? Sort of, not really though

Palestinians fight back, what happens? Everyones like oh /shrug it's their fault for fighting (most of rs takes this stance)
Mass sit-ins = get tear gassed and water cannoned by the police

So what's your next idea?

[Manic!]

Mass sit ins is what they should be doing, skip work too, bring the city to an actual standstill, if you get beat, you get beat.

That shit does not work.

[trd2343]

No. The cop walked TOWARDS the protesters, despite being outnumbered. He wasn't being attacked, they were trying to get him to walk away. He put HIMSELF in danger, with the intent to use his firearm on them. He fucking grabbed a civilian like he was a fucking hostage, and shot the person who was trying to break it up.

If you don't think people should be shocked by a cop walking TOWARDS a hostile crowd with a loaded gun, instead of backing off when given the chance to do so, you're... I don;'t know what you are. I don't think you're stupid, but think about it a bit more. Watch the damn video. This 100% could have been avoided simply by walking AWAY instead of TOWARDS the protesters. This is one of the cases where tear gas and pepper spray would have been justified if they need to disperse the crowd. Not some fucking cowboy walking in there grabbing hostages and shooting at people.

Next you'll tell me that if the cop who drove his bike into the crowd had been unseated and attacked, he'd be in the right for shooting people there too.

If you look at it as objectively as possible, my previous post and threezero's post explains it pretty well. Was it "stupid" to swat at the gun when he was holding his friend hostage? Yes!

Now think if you were in a country under constant attack by terrorists, and one of them runs at you and your friends with a gun, holds one of your friends hostage, and points his gun at you. Would you swat at a terrorist's gun? It's definitely a good way to get yourself shot. But you might just do the "stupid" thing and try to rescue your friend. Who's to say?

I'm saying, what is your alternative? They can't peacefully protest, they literally aren't allowed to. They can't assemble, it's illegal now. They can't wear masks, it's illegal now. They can't walk in groups, they can't go to school in groups. They can't even play basketball. They can't go for lunch during work. Cops attack and harass them at any given time. Doesn't matter if they're wearing black or a business suit or a school uniform. Carrie Lam said they have no stake in society. She said protesters are the enemy of "the people".

So that didn't work. What's the next step? Disrupt the city. Push it one step further. If they didn't listen to peace, maybe they will listen to money.

They are trying to get something done, forcing the government's hand. Either make the government actually negotiate the demands (many of which are already written into law but are being ignored), or make them invade with military force. Either way, sitting around bashing MTR and triad store windows wasn't enough, so they started disrupting the whole city.

Do I like it? Of course not.It's disrupting my life and the lives of many people. Do I understand it? Of course I do! They are fighting for their future. All I have to do is stop and think, what if I were them. Not enough people do that, we saw it in the Don Cherry thread as well. I don't know why so many people here lack the ability to empathize with people who are in worse conditions than they are. Maybe they just don't care. And that's fine, but if you don't care, you shouldn't be arguing against them. If you want to argue, at least have an open mind, and try to think from the perspective of the oppressed.

Alternative to what? Solving the crisis in HK? Or helping the protesters get what they are demanding?

The important question is, do you agree with their tactics? Correct if I'm wrong, but your latest posts seems to indicate there's a need for it.

I'm not advocating anything, I'm explaining why people are doing what they're doing. I'm trying to get people to see from different perspectives, since like I said, I think many people here lack that ability (or refuse to use it), which is shocking to me as a Canadian.

You can either agree or disagree with their actions, as can I. There's not much to be said though, other than "I disagree" unless you can say "they should do it this way, and here's why it will work"

Like when I report that people think cops were behind some of the first vandalism attacks, that's all I was doing - reporting it. I'm not saying I think it was cops (though I always acknowledged the possibility). Or when all these suicide bodies turn up, a lot of people say they are covered up murders. I think that is much less possible, but I'm going to put the info out there. When I refer to cops as terrorists, I am referring to the specific few that are terrorising citizens.

I absolutely wish none of this was happening. I wish the HKSAR would continue to run as "one country, two systems". I wish people could elect their own lawmakers and leaders, and run HK autonomically but WITH China for obvious reasons. Going further, I wish the people of mainland China would eventually get the same rights, and maybe unite with ROC with those rights. Be a world leader with freedom and human rights, and in science and climate change technology, because currently that's all America and they aren't exactly a perfect example of these things. Those are MY opinions, not even talking about police brutality, vandalism and rioting, crazy mainlanders biting ears off and gutting people, or extremist protesters lighting fascists on fire.

I do sincerely believe you wish for the greater good. However, fail me for the lack of critical thinking, but I have seeing some of your posts as anything but reporting facts or explaining people's actions.

In one of your latest posts in defending the protester's action, I really have difficulty in seeing how you manage to defend protester's action and place all the blame on the cop. Don't get me wrong, I think it's ridiculous that the cop pulled out his gun amongst a crowd of citizen.

Terrorist though? Is that your label, or the label you think the protesters are feeling? By the action of the protester that WALKED towards the cop, to the point his chest is on the gun, do you think the protester feel threatened? Scared? If a terrorist points a gun at you, would your first instinct be to walk TOWARDS it?

Hostage? I thought the definition of hostage is that you're taken by force against your will, but why would the protester walk towards the gun?

If your friend is being held hostage, you really think the stupid response is to try to swat the gun away? Wouldn't you agree you would have to be almost mentally handicapped to even think swatting the gun away from a terrorist would be a good idea to save your friend?

I don't think anyone here really minds whether you are pro-protester or not. It's an online forum, everyone can share their opinion.

[ssjGoku69]

I really don't want HK to be wiped by CCP and XJP's political aggression, but after seeing some of the radical protesters being insanely aggressive (https://www.reddit.com/r/Sino/comments/dvol71/hong_kong_truck_driver_confronts_protesters_about/) or blocking roads which impacts everyday citizens (https://www.reddit.com/r/Sino/comments/dvjs5z/angry_brave_westerner_resolutely_clearing_road/), it makes me worry about the decreasing sympathy the international community will have for the pro-democracy movement.


Are there any pro-HK protesters condemning these guys or is it just "mob-mentality" at work here?

Something I learned today from my coworkers from HK is that we can't just look at it from the HK POV, we have to be critical about what the China-side & International-side sees as well in order to fullfill the remaining 4 demands.

[SkinnyPupp]

I really don't want HK to be wiped by CCP and XJP's political aggression, but after seeing some of the radical protesters being insanely aggressive (https://www.reddit.com/r/Sino/comments/dvol71/hong_kong_truck_driver_confronts_protesters_about/) or blocking roads which impacts everyday citizens (https://www.reddit.com/r/Sino/comments/dvjs5z/angry_brave_westerner_resolutely_clearing_road/), it makes me worry about the decreasing sympathy the international community will have for the pro-democracy movement.


Are there any pro-HK protesters condemning these guys or is it just "mob-mentality" at work here?

Something I learned today from my coworkers from HK is that we can't just look at it from the HK POV, we have to be critical about what the China-side & International-side sees as well in order to fullfill the remaining 4 demands.
Most HK people still support what they're doing, even though it's a major inconvenience. People here keep saying "do peaceful sit-ins" and "get support from the international community". Peaceful marches aren't working. Sit-ins aren't working. International statements are ignored. People are ignored and called "enemies".

A while ago we saw peaceful sit-ins in malls, singing songs and chanting slogans. Students lined the entire city with human chains, singing songs and folding peaceful trinkets with paper. What happened? "No stake in society", violent attacks from mentally unstable mainlanders. Then came the police crack downs - pepper spray, violent arrests, tear gas, water cannons. Now when people try to do a peaceful sit-in in a mall or in the streets, it's instantly shut down by riot police. And from there comes the tear gas, affecting children and the elderly. Then the front liner hardcore protesters show up and then comes the fighting back and forth all night.

So it becomes a question of, if you support the 5 demands, even if you can't actually be out there in the streets, and still have to work your 9-5 job, what do you do? Quit telling them to do peaceful sit-ins, because that is a waste of time.

[StylinRed]

Mass sit-ins = get tear gassed and water cannoned by the police

So what's your next idea?

Yeah get beat, get gassed, get arrested, do it everyday tho, let the city go to a standstill, show them tear gas n batons won't stop you

That wins hearts, that wins support, the police won't be able to keep that up without losing international support

Right now some members of parliament/senate of govts around the world wag their finger but that's about it, because ppl aren't completely sold on any plight

Protesters have never done that though, they protest on weekends, go to work on weekdays, they get tear gassed, etc, they fight back, or they instigate, = nothing will happen/come from it

Protesters won't win going the violent route, they don't have what it takes nor do they have the means

[SkinnyPupp]

Alternative to what? Solving the crisis in HK? Or helping the protesters get what they are demanding?

The important question is, do you agree with their tactics? Correct if I'm wrong, but your latest posts seems to indicate there's a need for it.



I do sincerely believe you wish for the greater good. However, fail me for the lack of critical thinking, but I have seeing some of your posts as anything but reporting facts or explaining people's actions.

In one of your latest posts in defending the protester's action, I really have difficulty in seeing how you manage to defend protester's action and place all the blame on the cop. Don't get me wrong, I think it's ridiculous that the cop pulled out his gun amongst a crowd of citizen.

Terrorist though? Is that your label, or the label you think the protesters are feeling? By the action of the protester that WALKED towards the cop, to the point his chest is on the gun, do you think the protester feel threatened? Scared? If a terrorist points a gun at you, would your first instinct be to walk TOWARDS it?

Hostage? I thought the definition of hostage is that you're taken by force against your will, but why would the protester walk towards the gun?

If your friend is being held hostage, you really think the stupid response is to try to swat the gun away? Wouldn't you agree you would have to be almost mentally handicapped to even think swatting the gun away from a terrorist would be a good idea to save your friend?

I don't think anyone here really minds whether you are pro-protester or not. It's an online forum, everyone can share their opinion.
What's your alternative to peaceful protests (which haven't worked and are no longer allowed) and financial blocking which is what you're against here?

As for the cop shooting the protester, we don't need to go back and forth.. the video is there, draw your own conclusions. It doesn't matter what you or I think. Obviously it's not a good idea to walk towards someone pointing a gun at you, but it's REALLY wrong to point a gun at someone and shoot people. If you debate that, it means you support shooting everyone you see who is doing something you don't like, even if they aren't threatening you or anyone else at the time.

What's interesting is that for all the daily misuse of tear gas and abuse of force, trying to get protesters to stop blocking traffic is the MOST justifiable way to use it. But instead of that we had a couple cowboy cops march in with guns. (and if you hadn't noticed, this was pretty much the first time we've seen traffic cops have an altercation with protesters who are already in place. The result: one protester shot, several other run over by a cop on a motorcycle).

[SkinnyPupp]

Yeah get beat, get gassed, get arrested, do it everyday tho, let the city go to a standstill, show them tear gas n batons won't stop you

That wins hearts, that wins support, the police won't be able to keep that up without losing international support

Right now some members of parliament/senate of govts around the world wag their finger but that's about it, because ppl aren't completely sold on any plight

Protesters have never done that though, they protest on weekends, go to work on weekdays, they get tear gassed, etc, they fight back, or they instigate, = nothing will happen/come from it

Protesters won't win going the violent route, they don't have what it takes nor do they have the means
It's been every day this week, so let's see if your idea works

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/missy_lao/status/1194843376924819456

White collar protests spreading to other financial districts

https://twitter.com/SCMPNews/status/1194842079299559424

It's fascinating to see people dressed in office attire, pulling bricks out of the ground to set up road blocks

[SkinnyPupp]

More fascists

https://twitter.com/anti_elab/status/1194858811988664320

I didn't even want to link these guys, since it seems so over the top with the bad canto and outfits that it's very possibly fake. But you look at their age and who knows...

https://twitter.com/gnofsivla/status/1194518859123810304

[kkttsang]

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
You, you may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you will join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine…

[Manic!]

That wins hearts, that wins support, the police won't be able to keep that up without losing international support



When the hearts of who? Last time there where peaceful protests, china ran people over with tanks. Peaceful protests don't work. Look at Tibet. Tons of peaceful protests around the world and even a major concerts with hundreds of thousands of people attending. Still nothing has changed.

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/alvinllum/status/1194878256161247232

Here's one thing the protesters need to stop targeting NOW. Attacking the law courts goes completely against what they're fighting for. Judges have yet to show they've been corrupted by the Chinese government. Resist the fascists, terrorists, corrupt police, triads, etc. But come on...

[trd2343]

What's your alternative to peaceful protests (which haven't worked and are no longer allowed) and financial blocking which is what you're against here?

As for the cop shooting the protester, we don't need to go back and forth.. the video is there, draw your own conclusions. It doesn't matter what you or I think. Obviously it's not a good idea to walk towards someone pointing a gun at you, but it's REALLY wrong to point a gun at someone and shoot people. If you debate that, it means you support shooting everyone you see who is doing something you don't like, even if they aren't threatening you or anyone else at the time.

What's interesting is that for all the daily misuse of tear gas and abuse of force, trying to get protesters to stop blocking traffic is the MOST justifiable way to use it. But instead of that we had a couple cowboy cops march in with guns. (and if you hadn't noticed, this was pretty much the first time we've seen traffic cops have an altercation with protesters who are already in place. The result: one protester shot, several other run over by a cop on a motorcycle).

Hmm, I'm not entirely sure where exactly from my post did you believe I'm debating whether it's ok for the cop to draw his gun in public.

I think I've made it clear already, "Don't get me wrong, I think it's ridiculous that the cop pulled out his gun amongst a crowd of citizen."?

My point is, why, why, is the protester walking into a cop with a drawn gun? There was no debate on whether the cop should've drawn his gun or not. He absolutely shouldn't. But why, and what was the protester hoping to achieve?

Maybe this is ridiculous, can the 5 demands be met under the table? Meaning, protesters call off the demands and protest, and the government comes out publicly to address them on their own will (or at least outwardly it looks that way).

Government will on their own will launch an investigation on police brutality. Have Carrie Lam step down herself due to some illness or resignation due to stress.

But releasing arrested citizen and granting more democratic freedom? Maybe slowly, but probably impossible immediately.

Either way, this would require massive amount of trust on both sides that they will carry through with their words, which is lacking these days.

[SkinnyPupp]

Hmm, I'm not entirely sure where exactly from my post did you believe I'm debating whether it's ok for the cop to draw his gun in public.

I think I've made it clear already, "Don't get me wrong, I think it's ridiculous that the cop pulled out his gun amongst a crowd of citizen."?

My point is, why, why, is the protester walking into a cop with a drawn gun? There was no debate on whether the cop should've drawn his gun or not. He absolutely shouldn't. But why, and what was the protester hoping to achieve?

Maybe this is ridiculous, can the 5 demands be met under the table? Meaning, protesters call off the demands and protest, and the government comes out publicly to address them on their own will (or at least outwardly it looks that way).

Government will on their own will launch an investigation on police brutality. Have Carrie Lam step down herself due to some illness or resignation due to stress.

But releasing arrested citizen and granting more democratic freedom? Maybe slowly, but probably impossible immediately.

Either way, this would require massive amount of trust on both sides that they will carry through with their words, which is lacking these days.
Again we're just going back and forth.. Was it smart to swat at the gun? No. Was it smart to walk towards unarmed people with a gun, taking a hostage? No. But what are the results of this? A person was shot... And also it adds more fuel to the fire of anger.

And that's that. What more can you say?

As for under the table negotiations, I don't think that's feasible... A government led investigation into the police would not ever be accepted - it has to be completely independent.

I think most of the arrested people are being let go without charges. It's really up to the judges, which is why it sucks that people are attacking the courts. The judges are the one free thing HK has (something that China wants to replace BTW, which is why they need to keep fighting)

[SkinnyPupp]

Yesterday: Police commander ordering to "aim for the head" caught on video (https://v.redd.it/ugr9doq1w5y31)

Today: 15-year-old struck by projectile at Hong Kong protest in critical condition (https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/11/14/15-year-old-struck-projectile-hong-kong-protest-critical-condition)

Edit:

https://twitter.com/stegersaurus/status/1194899806587457538

[CP.AR]

6:45PM here.

Another dead body found in Tai Kok Tsui (Think Olympic Station's surrounding area). seemingly dumped from a building.

[StylinRed]

It's been every day this week, so let's see if your idea works

The problem is, is they're still fighting with police, and destroying property

"hell no, we won't go" as they're being beaten, tear gassed, manhandled, but undeterred

Financial district, shopping district, food services, waste disposal, farms, everything, at a standstill, Lam may just cave

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/chunyeelee/status/1195030781090942976

[Snake Eyes]

This person is a "Democracy activist" and HK student leader who is a spokes person for a number of " protest" movement groups. Concerning to say the least if she represents the majority of the rioters.

https://youtu.be/V9nNeO0yWyk

[StylinRed]

When the hearts of who? Last time there where peaceful protests, china ran people over with tanks. Peaceful protests don't work. Look at Tibet. Tons of peaceful protests around the world and even a major concerts with hundreds of thousands of people attending. Still nothing has changed.


Unfortunately with a lot of places in the world, their protests simply won't matter, that may be due to a lack of coverage, or lack of financial clout, etc.

Like Bahrain for example, no coverage, and no economic power.

Tiananmen? That was a different time, and the Chinese ppl didn't have much economic clout as they do now, it was just a giant farm back then

Tibet? They have a lot more support globally, unfortunately they pose no economic benefit or threat to anybody.

Kosovo? That's an example of extreme combative Ness working, but it was coupled with extreme human rights abuses perpetrated by Serbia, and the political will by the West to push back against Russia. Hong kongers don't have the will or means to be so violent

Win the hearts of who? The only ppl who can help them, global economic pressures, they won't get the amount of support they need by being semi combative, after decades of being combative, Palestine has a couple UN resolutions, and a voluntary initiative to not support made in Israel goods... A lot of good that does, and Hong kongers don't have the means to be anywhere near as combative as Palestinians, nor the desire I imagine.

So why not give their only real means a shot? Complete utter peaceful protests, bring the entire region into an economic standstill (not even Tiananmeners were capable of this) and if they Dave a brutal backlash, the despair may just trigger the help they need

[SkinnyPupp]

They are getting a lot of support already. America is about to pass the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act any time now, in fact they are rushing to get it done quickly (https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3037826/us-senators-urge-passage-hong-kong-democracy-bill-violence-city), possibly on Monday. UK is talking placing sanctions on people who abuse human rights in HK (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/13/uk-ministers-threaten-sanctions-on-hong-kong-officials). This would most obviously crush Carrie Lam, who I believe is a UK resident (at least her children are). She is also at risk of losing her fellowship at Cambridge, who was requested by 3 lawmakers last week to consider doing so.

Then of course you have Taiwan, who has politicians supporting Hong Kong, as the president has been since the beginnign. But now they have a pro China candidate saying (https://www.facebook.com/twherohan/posts/2600966760140472) HK needs to have universal suffrage.

[SkinnyPupp]

There are several others going against protesters, trying to clear roadblocks and brick piles. I don't call them fascists, because they aren't making political statements. Some of them probably just want to get to work and ignore any issues, etc. I still think it's a bad idea for them to do so, but I don't assume they are pro-fascism just because they're clearing bricks.

My fears came true, as a group of people tried clearing bricks from a roadblock, which then turned into a brick tossing fight with the protesters. A 70 year old was unfortunately struck from behind by someone throwing a brick at protesters (https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/11016), and has died (https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1492256-20191115.htm).

Not that it matters who is throwing what. HK people need to stick together to fight against evil. If you are not a fascist but still disagree with what protesters are doing, fighting with them in the streets is NOT the right thing to do. It plays directly into the government's hands.

[whitev70r]

This person is a "Democracy activist" and HK student leader who is a spokes person for a number of " protest" movement groups. Concerning to say the least if she represents the majority of the rioters.



Overwhelming comments are in this tone:

"We want government to be accountable to us" Hong kong government definitely should be accountable to their poor education.

This amazing interview has fully showcased the mindset of the typical hk rioters: Self entitled, illogical, spoilt, dillusional and full of themselves. Thanks.

The interviewer has asked all the good questions. The interviewee is a hopeless HK student leader. She knows nothing about democracy but demo crazy. What a shame to HK university.


This comment pretty well sums up that video:
Painful to watch... its like an adult trying to reason with a toddler.

[Amuse]

https://twitter.com/joothine/status/1194979122436423680

This is crazy.

[Badhobz]

Maybe it’s a good time to go shopping in hk.

[whitev70r]

HONG KONG LAW & CRIME POLITICS & PROTEST
70-year-old dies after being hit on head with brick during Hong Kong protest clash


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu_7qs6HFHA

[Amuse]

My fears came true, as a group of people tried clearing bricks from a roadblock, which then turned into a brick tossing fight with the protesters. A 70 year old was unfortunately struck from behind by someone throwing a brick at protesters (https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/11016), and has died (https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1492256-20191115.htm).

A video of it shows the brick was thrown right at his face.
But seriously, a brick fight? If one person starts it, bound to have bricks thrown back and forth.

[SkinnyPupp]

Maybe it’s a good time to go shopping in hk.
Maybe a fascist saw that you said you hated the Chinese government here earlier, and you'll get cracked in the skull with a telescoping baton LUL

[twitchyzero]

no surprise hk is killing itself

even if you remove the catalyst that is hkpf, seniors/children are still getting hit in the crossfire (see brick incident)

[SkinnyPupp]

A video of it shows the brick was thrown right at his face.
But seriously, a brick fight? If one person starts it, bound to have bricks thrown back and forth.
You're right, it looks like the woman with the skirt just missed hitting him, possibly BECAUSE he got hit by another brick and went down first

Either way, atrocious and tragic.

He was one of at least 5 or 6 people who died this week. Everyone else for mysterious reasons

[Manic!]

Maybe it’s a good time to go shopping in hk.

I thought you where moving to China?

[Manic!]

So why not give their only real means a shot?

How is that there only means of a shot. It was violence that freed America from Britain, It was violence that freed the slaves and to was violence that got rid of apartheid.

[Badhobz]

I thought you where moving to China?

...

[Badhobz]

How is that there only means of a shot. It was violence that freed America from Britain, It was violence that freed the slaves and to was violence that got rid of apartheid.

Why don’t you go to war with Pakistan over Kashmir then ?

[Manic!]

Why don’t you go to war with Pakistan over Kashmir then ?

Been there done that. India won.